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	<title>Comments on: Lefty embed to Dems: Troops want to fight on; Update: House passes Iraq spending bill, sans timetable; Update: Senate passes bill</title>
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		<title>By: Vets don&#8217;t like Shrillary? Who knew? &#171; Crush Liberalism</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/24/lefty-embed-to-dems-troops-want-to-fight-on/comment-page-1/#comment-659275</link>
		<dc:creator>Vets don&#8217;t like Shrillary? Who knew? &#171; Crush Liberalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a reflection of their feelings about Hillary personally. That’s okay. The left has already begun inching away from the “chickenhawk” implication that soldiers know best when it comes to all things war. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a reflection of their feelings about Hillary personally. That’s okay. The left has already begun inching away from the “chickenhawk” implication that soldiers know best when it comes to all things war. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gallup polls veterans on the race: Rudy +35, Hillary -22</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/24/lefty-embed-to-dems-troops-want-to-fight-on/comment-page-1/#comment-657917</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gallup polls veterans on the race: Rudy +35, Hillary -22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of their feelings about Hillary personally. That&#8217;s okay. The left has already begun inching away from the &#8220;chickenhawk&#8221; implication that soldiers know best when it comes to all things [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of their feelings about Hillary personally. That&#8217;s okay. The left has already begun inching away from the &#8220;chickenhawk&#8221; implication that soldiers know best when it comes to all things [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Baseball Crank</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/24/lefty-embed-to-dems-troops-want-to-fight-on/comment-page-1/#comment-424060</link>
		<dc:creator>Baseball Crank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 02:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;WAR:  Yes, The Troops Want to Finish The Job...&lt;/strong&gt;

Via Allahpundit, Spencer Ackerman - as vociferous and intemperate a left-wing war opponent as you could hope to meet - reports from Iraq that yes, the troops want to stay and finish the job: The truth of the matter, however,......</description>
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<p>Via Allahpundit, Spencer Ackerman &#8211; as vociferous and intemperate a left-wing war opponent as you could hope to meet &#8211; reports from Iraq that yes, the troops want to stay and finish the job: The truth of the matter, however,&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iraq slapfight: McCain plays the chickenhawk card on Obama, sort of</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/24/lefty-embed-to-dems-troops-want-to-fight-on/comment-page-1/#comment-423081</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iraq slapfight: McCain plays the chickenhawk card on Obama, sort of</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I told you yesterday that the chickenhawk thing was starting to boomerang on the left. And here we are: &#8220;While Senator Obama&#8217;s two years in the U.S. Senate certainly entitle him to vote against funding our troops, my service and experience combined with conversations with military leaders on the ground in Iraq lead me to believe that we must give this new strategy a chance to succeed because the consequences of failure would be catastrophic to our nation&#8217;s security. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I told you yesterday that the chickenhawk thing was starting to boomerang on the left. And here we are: &#8220;While Senator Obama&#8217;s two years in the U.S. Senate certainly entitle him to vote against funding our troops, my service and experience combined with conversations with military leaders on the ground in Iraq lead me to believe that we must give this new strategy a chance to succeed because the consequences of failure would be catastrophic to our nation&#8217;s security. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Thunder Run</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Thunder Run</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 14:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Web Reconnaissance for 05/25/2007...&lt;/strong&gt;

A short recon of whats out there that might draw your attention....</description>
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<p>A short recon of whats out there that might draw your attention&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Confederate Yankee</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/24/lefty-embed-to-dems-troops-want-to-fight-on/comment-page-1/#comment-422073</link>
		<dc:creator>Confederate Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 13:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Murtha: I Feel a Direction Change in the Air...&lt;/strong&gt;

And here it is. Murtha is just one of many Democrats attempting to regain the support of a Democratic base that feels betrayed by the Congressional Democrats surrender on their, uh, bid to surrender. I suppose I should be amused......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Murtha: I Feel a Direction Change in the Air&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>And here it is. Murtha is just one of many Democrats attempting to regain the support of a Democratic base that feels betrayed by the Congressional Democrats surrender on their, uh, bid to surrender. I suppose I should be amused&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pirate&#8217;s Cove &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Trackback Friday Featuring the Surrender Monkey: Dems Hate The Troops</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pirate&#8217;s Cove &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Trackback Friday Featuring the Surrender Monkey: Dems Hate The Troops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 11:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hot Air has an interesting read from a Lefty embed. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wanderlust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wanderlust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 09:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Time for the lefties to load the Birkenstocks into the Subaru and drive to France. 

Sven on May 25, 2007 at 2:07 AM

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll drink to that: once they arrive in Fwance, it&#039;ll be a matter of days before their Subaru gets torched by nondescript &quot;youths&quot; that just happen to be adherents of Islam.

Chirac&#039;s legacy (average of 100 cars &lt;em&gt;every night&lt;/em&gt; torched by Islamic radicals, OFF scandal, and pandering to Ahmadinejad and Saddam) almost rivals Bill &quot;sorry, missed that, was too busy with Monica&quot; Clinton.

As for the rest of it, I remain convinced that the multinational political Left hates the West so deeply that it will whore off to anyone that will make the West - and in particular, the United States - crumble. The only problem for them is, I suspect they have no idea that when Stalin referred to &quot;useful idiots&quot;, he was looking right at them.

By sheer dint of numbers and resources, though, the only winner in their madness, in the long term, is China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Time for the lefties to load the Birkenstocks into the Subaru and drive to France. </p>
<p>Sven on May 25, 2007 at 2:07 AM</p>
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<p>I&#8217;ll drink to that: once they arrive in Fwance, it&#8217;ll be a matter of days before their Subaru gets torched by nondescript &#8220;youths&#8221; that just happen to be adherents of Islam.</p>
<p>Chirac&#8217;s legacy (average of 100 cars <em>every night</em> torched by Islamic radicals, OFF scandal, and pandering to Ahmadinejad and Saddam) almost rivals Bill &#8220;sorry, missed that, was too busy with Monica&#8221; Clinton.</p>
<p>As for the rest of it, I remain convinced that the multinational political Left hates the West so deeply that it will whore off to anyone that will make the West &#8211; and in particular, the United States &#8211; crumble. The only problem for them is, I suspect they have no idea that when Stalin referred to &#8220;useful idiots&#8221;, he was looking right at them.</p>
<p>By sheer dint of numbers and resources, though, the only winner in their madness, in the long term, is China.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 06:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/23/AR2007052301780.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WaPo&lt;/a&gt;, sectarian killings are rising again &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; the rise in sectarian violence has followed a recent increase in mass-casualty suicide attacks and car bombings.

That&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;not the trendline&lt;/a&gt; you get from the Associated Press, however.

The WaPo is picking different time periods for each -- as well as mixing Baghdad numbers with Baghdad+selected provinces numbers with nationwide numbers -- to get maximum antiwar spin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/23/AR2007052301780.html" rel="nofollow">WaPo</a>, sectarian killings are rising again <em>and</em> the rise in sectarian violence has followed a recent increase in mass-casualty suicide attacks and car bombings.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s <a href="http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx" rel="nofollow">not the trendline</a> you get from the Associated Press, however.</p>
<p>The WaPo is picking different time periods for each &#8212; as well as mixing Baghdad numbers with Baghdad+selected provinces numbers with nationwide numbers &#8212; to get maximum antiwar spin.</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 06:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time for the lefties to load the Birkenstocks into the Subaru and drive to France.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for the lefties to load the Birkenstocks into the Subaru and drive to France.</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 05:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However you get in a fight, you don&#039;t want to appear to lose it.  It only encourages the unstable and violent and despotic.

Meaning:  &lt;em&gt;you have to kill as many jihadists as possible before you hand the mess back to the mostly useless, sectarian-poisoned, anti-democratic Iraqis, then move most of the Coalition Forces to the Kurdish area, protect the oilfields, and prepare to take out the Iranian nuke program&lt;/em&gt;.

Merely &quot;leaving&quot; (&lt;em&gt;redeploy to Okinawa&lt;/em&gt;, etc.) would give the enemy (jihadists of all stripes) irrational encouragement.

We need to be killing our way out of this war zone.  

And preparing for the next battlefront.

Since the Jihad will come at us from &lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt; members of this violent &quot;faith&quot;.

Because recruiting new militant suckers of Allah, via &quot;Muslim Warrior&quot; web sites, goes on everywhere, daily.

The propaganda war against the homicidal dogmas of Islam hasn&#039;t even begun yet.  

Which is the more important part of this conflict.

We need to know two things:

&lt;em&gt;Paper Tigers get burned.&lt;/em&gt;

And &lt;em&gt;the Jihad is the heart of Islam&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However you get in a fight, you don&#8217;t want to appear to lose it.  It only encourages the unstable and violent and despotic.</p>
<p>Meaning:  <em>you have to kill as many jihadists as possible before you hand the mess back to the mostly useless, sectarian-poisoned, anti-democratic Iraqis, then move most of the Coalition Forces to the Kurdish area, protect the oilfields, and prepare to take out the Iranian nuke program</em>.</p>
<p>Merely &#8220;leaving&#8221; (<em>redeploy to Okinawa</em>, etc.) would give the enemy (jihadists of all stripes) irrational encouragement.</p>
<p>We need to be killing our way out of this war zone.  </p>
<p>And preparing for the next battlefront.</p>
<p>Since the Jihad will come at us from <em>other</em> members of this violent &#8220;faith&#8221;.</p>
<p>Because recruiting new militant suckers of Allah, via &#8220;Muslim Warrior&#8221; web sites, goes on everywhere, daily.</p>
<p>The propaganda war against the homicidal dogmas of Islam hasn&#8217;t even begun yet.  </p>
<p>Which is the more important part of this conflict.</p>
<p>We need to know two things:</p>
<p><em>Paper Tigers get burned.</em></p>
<p>And <em>the Jihad is the heart of Islam</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: William Amos</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm DU got the full list they call them the &quot;Freedom 14)

I think the republicans who voted no were because of pork in the bill

NAYs ---14 
Boxer (D-CA)
Burr (R-NC)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coburn (R-OK)
Dodd (D-CT)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feingold (D-WI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Obama (D-IL)
Sanders (I-VT)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm DU got the full list they call them the &#8220;Freedom 14)</p>
<p>I think the republicans who voted no were because of pork in the bill</p>
<p>NAYs &#8212;14<br />
Boxer (D-CA)<br />
Burr (R-NC)<br />
Clinton (D-NY)<br />
Coburn (R-OK)<br />
Dodd (D-CT)<br />
Enzi (R-WY)<br />
Feingold (D-WI)<br />
Kennedy (D-MA)<br />
Kerry (D-MA)<br />
Leahy (D-VT)<br />
Obama (D-IL)<br />
Sanders (I-VT)<br />
Whitehouse (D-RI)<br />
Wyden (D-OR)</p>
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		<title>By: William Amos</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 02:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opps add Dodd to the no votes.

And this

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Though I loathe this decision to fund the war, I will not take out my feelings against the troops in the field,&quot; said Majority Whip Dick Durbin, D-Ill., who voted against authorizing use of force in Iraq in October 2002. &quot;Our soldiers should never be bargaining chips in this debate.&quot; 

Durbin was joined by Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., chair of the Armed Services Committee, who also voted against going to war nearly five years ago. 

&quot;I cannot vote to stop funding our troops who are in harm&#039;s way,&quot; Levin said. &quot;It is not the proper way that we can bring this was to an end. It is not the proper way that we can put pressure on Iraqi leaders.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3210851&amp;page=3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opps add Dodd to the no votes.</p>
<p>And this</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Though I loathe this decision to fund the war, I will not take out my feelings against the troops in the field,&#8221; said Majority Whip Dick Durbin, D-Ill., who voted against authorizing use of force in Iraq in October 2002. &#8220;Our soldiers should never be bargaining chips in this debate.&#8221; </p>
<p>Durbin was joined by Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., chair of the Armed Services Committee, who also voted against going to war nearly five years ago. </p>
<p>&#8220;I cannot vote to stop funding our troops who are in harm&#8217;s way,&#8221; Levin said. &#8220;It is not the proper way that we can bring this was to an end. It is not the proper way that we can put pressure on Iraqi leaders.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3210851&#038;page=3" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3210851&#038;page=3</a></p>
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		<title>By: William Amos</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 02:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABC News says Clinton and Obama voted against it</description>
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		<title>By: SouthernGent</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernGent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 01:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The next spending battle may come in July or in September at the very latest, after Petraeus gives his progress report.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s all a moot point.  Pelosi may not even attend the meetings, and the drive-by&#039;s will NOT report anything good from Iraq, no matter what Petraeus says.  They just won&#039;t...the democrat party will not allow it.  

You can bet your house on it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The next spending battle may come in July or in September at the very latest, after Petraeus gives his progress report.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s all a moot point.  Pelosi may not even attend the meetings, and the drive-by&#8217;s will NOT report anything good from Iraq, no matter what Petraeus says.  They just won&#8217;t&#8230;the democrat party will not allow it.  </p>
<p>You can bet your house on it!!</p>
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		<title>By: BadBrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>BadBrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 01:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to say it, but this guy seems pretty on.  I spent two tours in Iraq and I am for only one thing... winning.  But the question becomes, what is &quot;winning&quot;?  It makes me sick to leave some of the good people in Iraq.  I think I had it when, in the midsts of us sending 30,000 more Soldiers to fight for their security... the Iraqi parliment goes on a two month vacation.

Iran and Al Qaeda are using this to bleed us dry.  Soon we will be at that point where even if we win, we lose.

If the Democrats could show me realistically how withdrawling from Iraq would be part of a &quot;shift&quot; of assets to allow us to &quot;counterattack&quot; and take the fight to the enemy elsewhere (Iran, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Somalia, Dearborn Michigan) then I&#039;d consider supporting the idea.  Instead they just whine about how &quot;we lost&quot; and things are hopeless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to say it, but this guy seems pretty on.  I spent two tours in Iraq and I am for only one thing&#8230; winning.  But the question becomes, what is &#8220;winning&#8221;?  It makes me sick to leave some of the good people in Iraq.  I think I had it when, in the midsts of us sending 30,000 more Soldiers to fight for their security&#8230; the Iraqi parliment goes on a two month vacation.</p>
<p>Iran and Al Qaeda are using this to bleed us dry.  Soon we will be at that point where even if we win, we lose.</p>
<p>If the Democrats could show me realistically how withdrawling from Iraq would be part of a &#8220;shift&#8221; of assets to allow us to &#8220;counterattack&#8221; and take the fight to the enemy elsewhere (Iran, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Somalia, Dearborn Michigan) then I&#8217;d consider supporting the idea.  Instead they just whine about how &#8220;we lost&#8221; and things are hopeless&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Boehner gets emotional during Iraq war funding debate</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/24/lefty-embed-to-dems-troops-want-to-fight-on/comment-page-1/#comment-420922</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Boehner gets emotional during Iraq war funding debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 01:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] House minority leader John Boehner was brought to the brink of tears this evening during debate in the House over the Iraq spending bill, which eventually passed, 280-142. CNN reports: &#8220;I didn&#8217;t come here to be a congressman &#8212; I came here to do something,&#8221; the Ohio Republican said as he choked up with tears in his eyes on the House floor. &#8220;And I think at the top of our list is providing for the safety and security of the American people. That&#8217;s at the top of our list. After 3,000 of our fellow citizens died at the hands of these terrorists, when are we going to stand up and take them on? When are we going to defeat them?&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] House minority leader John Boehner was brought to the brink of tears this evening during debate in the House over the Iraq spending bill, which eventually passed, 280-142. CNN reports: &#8220;I didn&#8217;t come here to be a congressman &#8212; I came here to do something,&#8221; the Ohio Republican said as he choked up with tears in his eyes on the House floor. &#8220;And I think at the top of our list is providing for the safety and security of the American people. That&#8217;s at the top of our list. After 3,000 of our fellow citizens died at the hands of these terrorists, when are we going to stand up and take them on? When are we going to defeat them?&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LakeRuins</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/24/lefty-embed-to-dems-troops-want-to-fight-on/comment-page-1/#comment-420841</link>
		<dc:creator>LakeRuins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 00:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if the Dems demanded an immediate withdrawal and the troops refused? I would love to see the spin masters then. Well that and I would love to have several million shares of stock in a company that makes duct tape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the Dems demanded an immediate withdrawal and the troops refused? I would love to see the spin masters then. Well that and I would love to have several million shares of stock in a company that makes duct tape.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Byler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Byler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 00:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TThe mission is what the troops do.  You cannot support the troops without supporting the mission.  That is all there is to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TThe mission is what the troops do.  You cannot support the troops without supporting the mission.  That is all there is to it.</p>
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		<title>By: William Amos</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/24/lefty-embed-to-dems-troops-want-to-fight-on/comment-page-1/#comment-420808</link>
		<dc:creator>William Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 00:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone monitoring Kos and the DU ? They might have to take away their knives at the democratic dinner tables for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone monitoring Kos and the DU ? They might have to take away their knives at the democratic dinner tables for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: baldilocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>baldilocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;After all, someone who takes that “duty, honor, country” nonsense &lt;strong&gt;seriously&lt;/strong&gt; cannot be anything but mentally handicapped.&quot;

(Heck.  I have trouble with moonbat-ese.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;After all, someone who takes that “duty, honor, country” nonsense <strong>seriously</strong> cannot be anything but mentally handicapped.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Heck.  I have trouble with moonbat-ese.)</p>
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		<title>By: baldilocks</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/24/lefty-embed-to-dems-troops-want-to-fight-on/comment-page-1/#comment-420734</link>
		<dc:creator>baldilocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another good quote from the article:&lt;blockquote&gt;For soldiers like Lieutenant Wellman, [withdrawing from Iraq] will be hard to accept. As he told me of war doubters back home, “I don’t want them to just support the troops. I want them to support the mission.” This matters, because pretending that in ending the war they’re doing the troops a favor hurts Democrats politically. They risk looking condescending, and, worse, oblivious—which has the broader effect of undermining public trust in the Democrats to handle national security. More basically, it does a disservice to those who serve. For soldiers who are optimistic, being told that the war can’t be won is bad enough. But to be told that politicians are doing them a favor by extricating them from a mission they believe in is downright insulting.&lt;/blockquote&gt;But the Dems don&#039;t care about insulting their &quot;inferiors.&quot; After all, someone who takes that &quot;duty, honor, country&quot; nonsense cannot be anything but mentally handicapped.  We must protect the &lt;strike&gt;retards&lt;/strike&gt; troops! /leftist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another good quote from the article:<br />
<blockquote>For soldiers like Lieutenant Wellman, [withdrawing from Iraq] will be hard to accept. As he told me of war doubters back home, “I don’t want them to just support the troops. I want them to support the mission.” This matters, because pretending that in ending the war they’re doing the troops a favor hurts Democrats politically. They risk looking condescending, and, worse, oblivious—which has the broader effect of undermining public trust in the Democrats to handle national security. More basically, it does a disservice to those who serve. For soldiers who are optimistic, being told that the war can’t be won is bad enough. But to be told that politicians are doing them a favor by extricating them from a mission they believe in is downright insulting.</p></blockquote>
<p>But the Dems don&#8217;t care about insulting their &#8220;inferiors.&#8221; After all, someone who takes that &#8220;duty, honor, country&#8221; nonsense cannot be anything but mentally handicapped.  We must protect the <strike>retards</strike> troops! /leftist</p>
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		<title>By: Glynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ARE&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;they haunted by Vietnam?  If so, how so?  I swear I can&#039;t get a liberal to discuss Vietnam other than the &quot;it was a bad war&quot; mentality. Nothing about how the behavior of the antiwar crowd prolonged and ultimately ended the war and certainly nothing ever about what happened when we withdrew.  I really don&#039;t know a liberal who is haunted by Vietnam, but I know a lot of Vietnam veterans who are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>ARE</strong></em>they haunted by Vietnam?  If so, how so?  I swear I can&#8217;t get a liberal to discuss Vietnam other than the &#8220;it was a bad war&#8221; mentality. Nothing about how the behavior of the antiwar crowd prolonged and ultimately ended the war and certainly nothing ever about what happened when we withdrew.  I really don&#8217;t know a liberal who is haunted by Vietnam, but I know a lot of Vietnam veterans who are.</p>
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		<title>By: bert169</title>
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		<dc:creator>bert169</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For many of the liberals, an entirely-different maxim applies, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend,” and their main enemy is not in the Middle East.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, that does explain why the journalist from CNN (Ware, I think) said this whole debate about Iraq seems surreal knowing the consequences of a withdrawal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For many of the liberals, an entirely-different maxim applies, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend,” and their main enemy is not in the Middle East.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, that does explain why the journalist from CNN (Ware, I think) said this whole debate about Iraq seems surreal knowing the consequences of a withdrawal.</p>
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		<title>By: baldilocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>baldilocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you know, of course, that the troops are too stupid to make their own decisions, right?  Otherwise, why would they choose to join up in the first place? That why we have to protect them by bringing them home! /leftist

My mom told me today that one of my nephews--a fourteen-year-old--says that if the war is still going on when he becomes of age, he will enlist and expressed very adult reasoning for the decision.  Young Julian has occasionally had discipline problems, but is &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; intelligent.

There is hope for the younger generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you know, of course, that the troops are too stupid to make their own decisions, right?  Otherwise, why would they choose to join up in the first place? That why we have to protect them by bringing them home! /leftist</p>
<p>My mom told me today that one of my nephews&#8211;a fourteen-year-old&#8211;says that if the war is still going on when he becomes of age, he will enlist and expressed very adult reasoning for the decision.  Young Julian has occasionally had discipline problems, but is <em>very</em> intelligent.</p>
<p>There is hope for the younger generation.</p>
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