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Wednesday stupid: Is Dick Cheney worse than Darth Vader and Hobgoblin? Updated Quiz disappears

posted at 9:00 pm on May 23, 2007 by Bryan
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That’s the question burning up the fine minds at Amnesty International. Seriously.

But even when comparing a real live VPOTUS to fictional villains, Amnesty can’t get its facts right:

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Darth Vader didn’t “decimate” the people of Alderaan. He destroyed the whole planet. Everybody knows that. Never mind what he did to the separatists on Mustafar and the Jedi younglings on Coruscant. So Amnesty is minimizing Darth Vader’s evil so that he’ll compare more favorably with Cheney. That’s just plain dishonest. But it’s how they also tend to approach international relations between actual, existing humans: Non-American evil is minimized so that we’re put on a similar level with the Kim Jong-Ils of the world.

Oh–and if you’re dumb enough to give money to Amnesty International, this kind of silliness is where your donations end up.

(h/t BOTW)

Update with an exit question: If the destruction of the first Death Star was an inside job, would it make Darth Vader more or less evil than Dick Cheney?

Update: Hm. Amnesty’s quiz has been…silenced. Perhaps it was “decimated” like the millions on Alderaan.


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Has Amnesty International EVER been a positive force in the World?

They are getting owned …
23% Darth Vader
73% The Hobgoblin
5% Dick Cheney

DannoJyd on May 23, 2007 at 9:09 PM

That may not be the dumbest thing ever, but it’s up there.

ReubenJCogburn on May 23, 2007 at 9:09 PM

Is Dick Cheney worse than Darth Vader and Hobgoblin?

Only if you are his hunting partner! Just kidding – my charitable money goes elsewhere (great thing about the CFC the military sponsors is the ability to see how much overhead each org spends).

Bradky on May 23, 2007 at 9:11 PM

It is worthwhile to note that this is not just Amnesty International, but Amnesty Internation USA. I recall Alan Dershowitz said that he parted ways with AI because it was too extreme, but not with AIU, which was more reasonable. So much for that. How dumb are they that they think absolutely no one who supports AIU would be offended by this? They’ll likely wise up eventually; the next “disappearance” may be of this poll.

calbear on May 23, 2007 at 9:13 PM

hobgoblin is winning? I guess destroying a planet doesn’t earn the points it used to.

lorien1973 on May 23, 2007 at 9:17 PM

And Hobgoblin was a poser compared to Green Goblin

Number 2 on May 23, 2007 at 9:18 PM

The hobgobilin is winning? Who the hell is responding to this poll? The hobgoblin is a cheap knockoff of the green goblin from the first movie. He rides a freaking flying skateboard. They should call him the knobgoblin. He sucks. He can’t even polish Darth Vader’s helmet. Vader took ethnic cleansing to a whole new level. He blew away a planet. Men, women, children; everything gone. Torture? He broke princess leia with a levitating bowling ball. I’d like to see what that fat Ron Jeremy look-a-like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would do with a floating bowling ball. Now Dick Cheney did shoot a lawyer in the face, but that wasn’t on purpose and I don’t think that actually bothered anybody but the lawyer. The only other movie villain that could come close to competing with Vader in sheer evil is David LoPan. And where the hell is Pol Pot? Oh, he’s dead. Wouldn’t want to compare a dead guy to two movie characters.

austinnelly on May 23, 2007 at 9:19 PM

Hobgoblin = Ron Paul
Thats Why he is winning this poll!

So now we know his secret identity!

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on May 23, 2007 at 9:27 PM

Now now now…..come on people….

Poison Ivy….hands down……makes Darth Vader look like Borat in Depends.

Limerick on May 23, 2007 at 9:27 PM

So no mention of, say, Assad, Ahhmadinejad or, say, Mubarak?

Yeah, that seems about right.

This !@#$ gets more ridiculous every. damned. day.

Citizen Duck on May 23, 2007 at 9:28 PM

This is a good example of why AI should disappear, oh and BTW AI has disabled the poll. Apparently they just weren’t getting the results they wanted. Expect the poll to show back up with the numbers that they were hoping for later.

doriangrey on May 23, 2007 at 9:33 PM

It’s a sad day when you can’t assume a “humanitarian organization” is a force for good.

Buck Turgidson on May 23, 2007 at 9:40 PM

Is it just me or did they forget to list the terrorists who cut off the heads of US soldiers?

Tim Burton on May 23, 2007 at 9:43 PM

Dick Cheney is OK in my book. After all, he did shoot a lawyer, so he can’t be all bad.

Maxx on May 23, 2007 at 9:44 PM

Alzheimer International can’t tell the difference between make believe fantasy characters and real people. Another cause for dementia by a so-called-do-gooders. Money well spent I suppose.

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Kini on May 23, 2007 at 9:45 PM

Oh wait, the US soldiers are the terrorists….Doh!

Tim Burton on May 23, 2007 at 9:45 PM

Of course he’s more evil than Darth Vader and Hobgoblin, that’s why we like him!

Bad Candy on May 23, 2007 at 9:54 PM

Five Dick Cheney Jokes to show that Amnesty International is right

5. Dick Cheney takes candy from babies, then later gives it to diabetic babies.

4. For the past 32 years during his family’s Christmas dinner Dick Cheney has carved and served the turkey pardoned by the President at Thanksgiving.

3. Dick Cheney deliberately piloted the Titanic into an iceberg because someone cheated him at high-stakes shuffleboard.

2. In a bow to conservationsists, Dick Cheney converted his SUV. It now runs on orphans. And puppies. And orphan puppies. Also, it gets 1 mpg city, 3 free way. And he never leaves the city.

1. Cheney once killed and ate a congressman in front of a visiting troop of girl scouts, as part of his demonstration of “how a bill becomes law.”

Defector01 on May 23, 2007 at 9:56 PM

Look, I kike Cheney and I aknowlwdge that he is a badass, however, even with a full loaded shotgun in Cheney’s hands, the Hobgoblin beats him hands down.

Hobbie FTW!!!

JayHaw Phrenzie on May 23, 2007 at 10:08 PM

Thank You Bryan for pointing out that Amnesty International is just another far left wing front group. They use every kind of moral equivalence and rationalization to demonize America at every opportunity. They are suppose to be a human rights group but as far as I know they have never actually stuck their neck out to help anybody. And of course Amnesty International is a beloved darling of the mainstream media because they never have a kind word to say about the United States.

If anyone at HotAir wants to contribute to an organization that really does help people and that actually risk their own lives to assist oppressed and persecuted Christians around the world, then I recommend Voice of the Martyrs. They are the real deal.

Maxx on May 23, 2007 at 10:09 PM

kike=like
aknowlwdge=aknowledge
full=fully
JayHaw=JayHawk

We need to add post editing.

JayHaw Phrenzie on May 23, 2007 at 10:09 PM

JayHaw Phrenzie on May 23, 2007 at 10:09 PM

FAIL.

Bad Candy on May 23, 2007 at 10:14 PM

Plus they misspelled “Spider-Man.”

Alex K on May 23, 2007 at 10:20 PM

I want to be clear on the record:

I like Dick Cheney!!!

I always have and probably always will!!!

He is AWSOME!!!

I say Cheney ‘08!!!!!!

Troy Rasmussen on May 23, 2007 at 10:24 PM

They had to make it Cheney vs. cartoon characters. Most everyone knows Cheney has not destroyed a planet. Nor has he gassed a whole city.
If the choices were changed to Cheney, Hitler and Stalin, I think Cheney would win.

dingoatemebaby on May 23, 2007 at 10:34 PM

Puh-LEEZE. Everyone knows you don’t get any more evil than Darkseid. Or Hillary.

ZK on May 23, 2007 at 10:37 PM

Well can play “Caption this photo” for fun

What is Harry Reid doing ?

William Amos on May 23, 2007 at 10:42 PM

One of the best speeches I’ve ever heard was made by Cheney. It was Cheney’s eulogy of Ronald Reagan in the rotunda, it was awesome and pitch perfect, even the media said so. Cheney is perhaps the sharpest mind on Capital Hill and a fine man.

By the way, the Democrat that eulogized Reagan during the same ceremony (I don’t remember who he was) turned the speech into politics. It was utterly classless and repugnant, they couldn’t leave politics alone for even a few minutes to honor a great man and fallen President. That’s the Democrats for you.

Maxx on May 23, 2007 at 10:44 PM

32% Darth Vader
54% The Hobgoblin
14% Dick Cheney

OK. Who let the Kos Kiddies in on the poll?

DannoJyd on May 23, 2007 at 10:59 PM

I would just like to point out that Darth Vader did not blow up a planet, it was Grand Mof Tarkin who gave the order for that, you know snobby old guy with the slight english accent. Although Vader did kill a bunch of children but was terrorist hasn’t now adays.

Also hobgoblin sucks, thats why he gets killed alot in the comics too.

My vote would by for Amnesty since they expose people to this mindless drivel all the time thus killing precious braincells.

RWingVirus on May 23, 2007 at 11:04 PM

14% Dick Cheney

OK. Who let the Kos Kiddies in on the poll?

DannoJyd on May 23, 2007 at 10:59 PM

That or people are voting for Cheney as a joke. Heh. He’s so awesomely evil. I could see some of us morons voting for Cheney as a joke at Ace’s, given that Cheney’s cartoonlike evilness has been such a long running joke there.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/227628.php

Bad Candy on May 23, 2007 at 11:16 PM

Actually, it was Grand Moff Tarkin that destroyed Alderan. It was his idea and he is the one that gave the order. Vader was just the muscle.

Plus, Hobgoblin was just a mercenary thug. Green Goblin/Harry Osbourne was the true evil genius.

Queasy on May 23, 2007 at 11:46 PM

Well, the morons who don’t respect the US as the human rights leader oif the world are terrorists and like minded crazies who are getting their evil a$$es kicked by us. So I don’t really give a crapola what they think.

They are stupid.

ROSIE STUPID!

csdeven on May 24, 2007 at 12:15 AM

A new poll for amnesty international:

Who committed the most rapes?

Uday Hussein

Qusay Hussein

Sadam Hussein

Dick Cheney

Bill Clinton

dingoatemebaby on May 24, 2007 at 12:17 AM

Oh. Vader didn’t destroy a planet? Oh. Well, I’m changing my vote to Dick Cheney. That whole kangaroo court thing sounds really bad. Vader did torture Princess Leia though, didn’t he? Well..maybe he didn’t either. After all, he didn’t put her in an air conditioned room or brandish a tampon at her. He didn’t water board her. All he did was bring a levitating bowling ball into the room with a needle sticking out of it. No, I think I am going to change my vote to Dick Cheney. Thanks for clearing up the whole Alderan thing. Kinda like playing clue..The grand moff did it, in the Death Star with the Giant (finger quote) Laser.

austinnelly on May 24, 2007 at 12:21 AM

“The ability to blow up a planet is nothing compared to the power of the Force!”

Darth Vader

csdeven on May 24, 2007 at 12:21 AM

That quote was pure posturing. What did he ever do with the force? I mean, the choking thing was kinda cool…combined with the telekinesis, Vader could guest host the view and that freaking brain addled rhino wouldn’t filibuster HIM more than once.

austinnelly on May 24, 2007 at 12:24 AM

Bryan, were you assuming that folks here knew the meaning of “decimate”?

Only us old-timers follow your argument – wasted logic, in many ways my friend.

peski on May 24, 2007 at 12:45 AM

None of this matters anyway because the destruction of the Death Star was an inside job.

Joshua P. Allem on May 24, 2007 at 1:34 AM

TECHNICALLY, Grand Moff Tarkin (see: the commander of the Death Star at the time) ordered the destruction of Alderaan, not Darth Vader.

JG2K6 on May 24, 2007 at 2:01 AM

What’s the deal with Darth Vader? C’mon, he was just a lackey of the Emperor, following orders… he doesn’t get credit for the Empire’s actions, does he? Seriously guys, try some research before getting all fictional villain on me, find out who was running the Empire. It’d be like blaming Cheney for everything the U.S. Government… oh, they did that too. Nevermind.

And yes, I’d have said something about the jagoffs who came up with this, but I can’t seem to take them seriously.

gekkobear on May 24, 2007 at 2:07 AM

I can just see the Galactic Republic “truthers”:

“JEDIS WERE BEHIND ALDERAAN! INVESTIGATE YODA’S HOLOCRON!”

JG2K6 on May 24, 2007 at 2:14 AM

Elisabeth: The Evil Empire is responsible for the slaughter of millions when they destroyed Alerann! So when the Rebels…

Rosie: Millions more died inside the Empire’s Space Station when it was destroyed by a group of Rebels spanning several planetary systems from all over the Galaxy! Who’s the Evil Empire?

Joshua P. Allem on May 24, 2007 at 2:25 AM

Coming soon: LOOSE ROBES – 2ND ULTIMATE FINAL CUT EDITION: INSIDE THE JEDI CONSPIRACY TO DESTROY ALDERAAN

Mibrilane on May 24, 2007 at 2:31 AM

Rosie: Millions more died inside the Empire’s Space Station when it was destroyed by a group of Rebels spanning several planetary systems from all over the Galaxy! Who’s the Evil Empire?

This brings me back to the philosophical argument from Clerks that asked if it was morally right to destroy the 2nd Death Star, even though the independant contractors hired to build it were innocent victims.

JG2K6 on May 24, 2007 at 2:53 AM

The only other movie villain that could come close to competing with Vader in sheer evil is David LoPan.

austinnelly on May 23, 2007 at 9:19 PM

James Wong is an excellent David Lopan!

Nevertheless, Jack Burton (Kurt Russel), with his amazing reflexes, caught his knife in mid-air and put Lopan on ice once and for all!

Lopan’s henchmen were formidable to say the least.

I would say that Rosie O’Donnel makes a great powerful evil character with Joy Behar as her sidekick. She is such a mean spirited, hate filled, merciless, inconsiderate, degenerate, cruel, heartless, self absorbed, vindictive, venemous bully, and that’s on a good day, that she would not have to act.

Bill Maher is pretty good playing a villain as well, something he is naturally on his program and in his visits to interview programs, spewing his vindictive, condescending, elitist “I’m above all of you, you idiots, you just don’t get it” routine.

Maher always appears on television spewing hate filled diatribes, sounding like a girlie man, and looking-sitting like a sissy whose undies are riding up his uptight behind, and with a face as if he is smelling the most foul stench of someone’s passed gas, perhaps his own passed gas.

He never appears relaxed. In his face he appears so tense and unhappy. What a horrible life he might be living.

For heroes, Superman is all one needs, but Bruce Lee as the Master of Martial Arts monk, Lee, in “Enter the Dragon” is great, as is Chuck Norris in many of his flicks, such as Delta Force, Good Guys Wear Black, Invasion USA, and others.

Michelle Yeoh in her part in the Pierce Brosnan as James Bond film “Tomorrow Never Dies” as Chinese Super Agent Wai Lin is an excellent hero, as she was in Crouching Tiger; Hidden Dragon.

William

William2006 on May 24, 2007 at 3:11 AM

Well folks, as of 7:43 AM on May 24, only 21% of the voters in this poll are as dumb as Amnesty thinks they are.

Screencapped for posterity:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/fusionaddict/ai_vader_vote_02.jpg

Everybody get over there! Remember, you can vote as many times as you like!

fusionaddict on May 24, 2007 at 7:45 AM

So, did anyone ever tell the Rebels that fire does not melt steel?

eforhan on May 24, 2007 at 9:46 AM

Bryan, were you assuming that folks here knew the meaning of “decimate”?

Only us old-timers follow your argument – wasted logic, in many ways my friend.

peski on May 24, 2007 at 12:45 AM

Let’s not have any ‘ageism’ here; I think most of us caught the stupidity and inaccuracy of using ‘decimate’ to describe a situation where ‘obliterate’ would have been more accurate. Amnesty International are the morons here, not us.

William2006 on May 24, 2007 at 3:11 AM

William, that is about as good a list of heroes as I could think of. I just watched Enter the Dragon last night on AMC and am still struck by Bruce Lee’s screen presence. The fight between John Amos and Bolo Yeung is classic too; I think Jack Burton edges Chuck just a bit in screen appeal comparing Invasian USA to Big Trouble in Little China. Chuck just never smiles, even after he single handedly wiped out the invading mercenary army.

austinnelly on May 24, 2007 at 10:17 AM

They took it down. The page is just a big blank white square now.

I guess they got enough phone call and/or e-mail complaints… or they got tired of their server being hammered by the Diggbats/Moonbats.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t57/Thomzilla/AmnestyPoliticalLackys.jpg

SilverStar830 on May 24, 2007 at 10:49 AM

They took it down. The page is just a big blank white square now.

I played around and got Cheney down to 4% until someone got wise and called some friends. The opposition slammed it and the poll crashed. Heh.

Connie on May 24, 2007 at 10:40 PM

The fight between John Amos and Bolo Yeung is classic too;

austinnelly on May 24, 2007 at 10:17 AM

austinnelly,

John Amos was one of the bad guys in “Die Hard II” and he was Kunta Kinte as an adult in “Roots.” He also appeared in other feature films and television series and sitcoms.

It was John Saxon who portrayed play boy, “Roper” in Enter the Dragon, and who faught “Bolo” (Yang Tse) in the finale of “Enter the Dragon.”

In real life Yang Tse, who became known as “Bolo Yeung” was the South East Asian Shotokan Karate Champion. He was also a body builder.

Jackie Chan was one of the guards who attacked Bruce Lee and was defeated.

Bob Wall, who played “O’Hara,” the mob boss, renegade Shaolin Mokn Han’s body guard, the guy with the scar on his face, was one of the top karate competitors in the 1970s. He and Chuck Norris often appeared on television and elsewhere back in the 1970s, such as in Hong Kong television, even demonstrating some impressive karate skills, such as kicking a cigarette out of the mouth, etc. Bob Wall is now a successful real estate person in California, I believe.

Sei Kien, who played Han, is a famous Chinese actor.

In the movie “Enter the Dragon” the cobra was devenomed. Lucky for Bruce Lee that it was, for the cobra did bite Brue Lee during the filming of the movie. Also, at the time, many of the Chinese movie companies did not use the same props as western movie companies used, and the bottles used when “Lee” fought “O’Hara” in the martial arts match in which Lee demonstrated his trapping hands techniques, his stop hit techniques, and his extreme hand speed, actually were real glass and Lee was bady injured, requireing stitches.

Just a bit of trivia regarding Bruce Lee and Enter the Dragon.

William

William2006 on May 25, 2007 at 1:53 AM

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