Many of us disagreed with his timing and tone, and stated so repeatedly during the Falwell death threads.

A: It’s the only country in the world with a secular constitution. In my own country [of birth] there are rules against criticizing religion. If you live in Germany, you must pay a tithe to a religion. Americans have no idea how unique freedom of worship – or in the case of me, freedom from worship – is.

This is the first time he’s said something I agree with. Like him or not, this is a point that should be taken to heart. This country was created so that everyone could practice their own religion without fear of being persecuted. Incidentally, non-believers fall under this protection as well, even though it just so happened to be a predominantly Christian country. I think it’s worth noting the type of religion this country is based on, because another thing that Hitchens mentioned was that secularism=pacifism. This made sense to me too. Today we see the liberal left, who I see as secularists, constantly beating down the Christian religion. At the same time they refuse to defend this country’s most basic laws and try to appease and pacify every group out there, the most notable one being the extreme muslims. This is a slippery slope and scares the hell out of me. I don’t understand how the dhimmicrats can be so short sighted, I suspect more that they’re just greedy and power hungry which is bothersome too because the Republicans are not immune to that either.
In short, (sorry about the rant) I think Hitchen’s point is that though he doesn’t believe in the God our country was founded on, the U.S.A. , has been and is worth fighting for. But we won’t feel that way if we all become secular PC pacifists.

Seriously, what is so hard about citing where the quote came from in the post?
tadams1138 on May 20, 2007 at 11:03 PM

Your comment is understandable and I understand the feelings. Being “tricked” into reading someones tripe that makes you sick to your stomach is bothersome. But this is the nature of discussion forums. Just shake it off and read a different thread.

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Nope. She had to read them and I had to write them. We were both stuck. Lucky you!

Allahpundit on May 20, 2007 at 11:57 PM

I had a teacher who never read past the second page. I figured it out and would type a great two pages and then just put in whatever…Preamble of the Constitution, DoI or what ever fit my fancy.

I guess you can’t really read a paper when you have no aids and 3 classes of 150 students…it is just impossible.

baldilocks, sorry, I only visit occasionally and mostly ignore the left column. I had not seen that thread. I’ve read it now, but I’m still trying to absorb to range of comments…

Did you see him on H&C after Falwell’s death?

prototype on May 21, 2007 at 2:45 AM

A cursory look at the front page of this site or plugging the word “Hitchens” into its search function might be in order for you.

Did you see him on H&C after Falwell’s death? Falwell wasn’t even in the ground yet and Hitchens was blasting him as if he were the worst person to ever live. Even if that was true, you need to show some respect, some decorum, at a time like that.

Blast him a week later, but show some respect when he passes, even if he is your worst enemy. I was not a fan of Falwell either, but I would never have said the bad things Hitchens said about the man, considering how those comments would obviously affect his family. Hitchens is a piece of crap that we should all ignore.

He also dissed all Christians that night, you had to read between the lines to hear it, but it was there. So be it, to each his own, but I have no respect for that man.

sonnyspats1 on May 21, 2007 at 1:39 AM

You too. I did and I agree. Your point of ‘example’ was well-received, and I had written a much longer post to put forward the question of where example ends and a more active attempt begins, but I killed it so as to not thread-jack. Seems to me Hitch appreciates the atmosphere created by the passive while distainfully rejecting the active, which INC noted.

It is was Sunday. I know you know I am attempting to make a point without all the hub bub that these threads can generate. I think as far as Hitch is concerned the adage that ‘An enemy of my enemy is my friend’ is in force here. Have a good week.

INC, thanks for the clarification. Makes the freedom even more strong.

Allahpundit does this all the time, and I can’t stand it when it’s a link to something I couldn’t care less about. For example: Rosie says “Bush lied, people died” vs a theoretical Rudy saying it. I want to read the Rudy article, while I don’t give a crap about the Rosie one. Seriously, post it so I don’t follow to waste download time following links to brainless nuts spewing nonsense.

tadams1138 on May 20, 2007 at 11:45 PM

My mother had a saying that bears repeating:

Don’t like it? Lump it!

We as Christians should try to present a nonthreatning appearence to the non believer, as well as presenting an example of the loving God we represent.

I like the US military, Christian or not, to appear threatening! :) (yeah, I know that’s not what you meant).

Hitch is a smart guy; America is a special place.

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tadams1138 on May 20, 2007 at 11:03 PM

Heh Heh Heh Its a new thing it’s called an opposing point of view. I assume your complaint is having to contaminate your pure state of mind with the Hitchens doctrine. I admit his remarks on the passing of Rev.Fallwell were heartless bordering on blasphemy. I find his recognition of the freedom of worship in this country a plus for him. He argues brilliantly against the Muslim’s also. Lets just consider him a Christian tool. He is obviously searching for God. Its a shame there isn’t more information available of all the missionary Mother and Father Theresa types in the world. These missionaries risk their lives and often loose them helping the destitute peoples of the Earth. We as Christians should try to present a nonthreatning appearence to the non believer, as well as presenting an example of the loving God we represent. How elese are we to win souls for the Lord. His first name is Christopher. He see’s the value in the red states willingness to fight! I recognize his good points and think we should pray that God reveals himself to Hitchens. Hitch would make an awsome preacher. Hallelujah!