Quote of the day
posted at 10:30 pm on May 20, 2007 by Allahpundit
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“More and more I find that those people are the real enemy intellectually. There’s no dishonesty like liberal dishonesty, just like there’s no intolerance like liberal intolerance. There’s nothing they won’t excuse and no excuse they won’t deploy. Their piety is a big aspect of that. Brilliantly exploited by Bill Clinton. Currently being exploited by Barack Obama and by Sen. Hillary Clinton. Cheap mediocre piety and sanctimony is their stock in trade.”
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Seriously, what is so hard about citing where the quote came from in the post?
tadams1138 on May 20, 2007 at 11:03 PM
That’s a pig with a different color lipstick.
Christopher Hitchens does know how to BLEEP the pooch.
Speakup on May 20, 2007 at 11:03 PM
My favorite takeaway:
RB’s guess:
Makes it more provocative. As in, our learless feeder would like us to actually *click on the link*
RushBaby on May 20, 2007 at 11:16 PM
Allahpundit does this all the time, and I can’t stand it when it’s a link to something I couldn’t care less about. For example: Rosie says “Bush lied, people died” vs a theoretical Rudy saying it. I want to read the Rudy article, while I don’t give a crap about the Rosie one. Seriously, post it so I don’t follow to waste download time following links to brainless nuts spewing nonsense.
tadams1138 on May 20, 2007 at 11:45 PM
oh yeah… and FIRST! (I think that’s the first time I’ve done that)
tadams1138 on May 20, 2007 at 11:46 PM
Er, then you don’t read any Democrat talking points?
ScottG on May 20, 2007 at 11:48 PM
Simple solution: don’t read the “Quote of the day” posts anymore.
Allahpundit on May 20, 2007 at 11:51 PM
hee, hee, tadams, Once I was FIRST too. :) You have just discovered the downside of being first: usually a number of comments preceding your visit will illuminate the urgency/relevance of the *click*, especially if you are peeking while at work.
RushBaby on May 20, 2007 at 11:52 PM
Dude, relax. I like it, it’s like a mystery spin.
Spirit of 1776 on May 20, 2007 at 11:53 PM
True, true, RushBaby.
I suppose you told your English teacher in high school not to read your papers too, Allahpundit.
Nope, ScottG. They don’t have a monopoly on labeling. I can do it too.
tadams1138 on May 20, 2007 at 11:56 PM
Nope. She had to read them and I had to write them. We were both stuck. Lucky you!
Allahpundit on May 20, 2007 at 11:57 PM
His critique of the self-gelded American media is apt.
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profitsbeard on May 20, 2007 at 11:59 PM
Actually, I regret my flippancy above. I just reread the article and it is quite, Quite QUITE profound.
RushBaby on May 21, 2007 at 12:16 AM
I always feel like Hitchens is out to look cool so he can get a girl at a cocktail party. I can’t tell if he really believes what he’s saying or if it’s some big juvinile joke to him.
Mojave Mark on May 21, 2007 at 12:34 AM
Dude/dudette, no sense for mystery, surprise, intrigue, humor, wit? There is a lot of good sense in this piece, as even my friend RushBaby just realized.
To list a few:
That includes all of our the the rest of the world’s ‘progressives’.
…the wussies here and around the world.
An unforgivable travesty and blatant fake excuse in the name of ’safety’. What a bunch of chicken! NYT, leader of all.
How many schools and universities teach this? How many really know this, here and abroad?
Not only in Germany – in many European countries – and it comes out of your paycheck. ‘Progressives’ and ’secularists’ my…well let me by nice – it’s Sunday.
Most pawerful statement in the article. Not only Americans, the rest of the world have no idea how free this country really is. And the “pious” liberal liars either know and preach otherwise, or are completely in the dark, ignorant. I fancy to believe the former.
I’m thankful Mr. Hitchens lives in our time and has the cojones to say and write what so-called leaders don’t. Hundreds together can’t garner this much courage. Agree with him or not, this man has guts!
Others covered the powerful last paragraph – this from a recoverd Marxist.
Yes, it’s no secret – I admire this man greatly. He has courage, talent, intelligence, and the right to not believe, if he so choses. He chose the country which most offers him a huge platform for all kinds of freedoms. From here they can hear/read him everywhere else. And on the WoT he has been unbending.
Entelechy on May 21, 2007 at 12:38 AM
Yes, we do.
It’s quite ironic Hitchens would say this. I wonder if he knows that Patrick Henry, the great Virginian, the tireless advocate for the Bill of Rights, was a Christian?
Before he died, Patrick Henry said:
“Religion I have disposed of all my property to my family. There is one thing more I wish I could give to them, and that is the Christian religion. If they had that and I had not given them one cent, they would be rich. If they have not that, and I had given them the world, they would be poor.”
INC on May 21, 2007 at 12:39 AM
INC, if you would have left the comment after “Yes, we do” I could have been with you. The rest of your comment just proved the point that a person has the right to be religious or that Mr Henry ended up believing that religion (for him and his family) was valuable.
I don’t understand how that refutes in any way what Mr. Hitchens said “freedom of worship – or in the case of me (him), freedom from worship”.
Entelechy on May 21, 2007 at 12:47 AM
Seriously, what is so hard about citing where the quote came from in the post?
tadams1138 on May 20, 2007 at 11:03 PM
Heh Heh Heh Its a new thing it’s called an opposing point of view. I assume your complaint is having to contaminate your pure state of mind with the Hitchens doctrine. I admit his remarks on the passing of Rev.Fallwell were heartless bordering on blasphemy. I find his recognition of the freedom of worship in this country a plus for him. He argues brilliantly against the Muslim’s also. Lets just consider him a Christian tool. He is obviously searching for God. Its a shame there isn’t more information available of all the missionary Mother and Father Theresa types in the world. These missionaries risk their lives and often loose them helping the destitute peoples of the Earth. We as Christians should try to present a nonthreatning appearence to the non believer, as well as presenting an example of the loving God we represent. How elese are we to win souls for the Lord. His first name is Christopher. He see’s the value in the red states willingness to fight! I recognize his good points and think we should pray that God reveals himself to Hitchens. Hitch would make an awsome preacher. Hallelujah!
sonnyspats1 on May 21, 2007 at 12:50 AM
Entelechy, my point was that I doubt Hitchens realizes that a Christian was one who was a, if not the, main mover behind the fact that he is able to be free form religion.
INC on May 21, 2007 at 12:57 AM
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INC on May 21, 2007 at 12:58 AM
I like that the source of the quote wasn’t given in the post. I think the point is to think about the quote, and then see if your reaction changes when you find out who said it. At least that’s how I experience it, anyway.
Bad Penny on May 21, 2007 at 12:59 AM
I like the US military, Christian or not, to appear threatening! :) (yeah, I know that’s not what you meant).
Hitch is a smart guy; America is a special place.
Spirit of 1776 on May 21, 2007 at 1:05 AM
My mother had a saying that bears repeating:
Don’t like it? Lump it!
Highrise on May 21, 2007 at 1:07 AM
Hitchens always looks like he’s on a perpetual bender.
Rick on May 21, 2007 at 1:15 AM
INC on May 21, 2007 at 12:57 AM
INC, thanks for the clarification. Makes the freedom even more strong.
Entelechy on May 21, 2007 at 1:17 AM
Spirit of 1776 on May 21, 2007 at 1:05 AM
It
iswas Sunday. I know you know I am attempting to make a point without all the hub bub that these threads can generate. I think as far as Hitch is concerned the adage that ‘An enemy of my enemy is my friend’ is in force here. Have a good week.sonnyspats1 on May 21, 2007 at 1:39 AM
You too. I did and I agree. Your point of ‘example’ was well-received, and I had written a much longer post to put forward the question of where example ends and a more active attempt begins, but I killed it so as to not thread-jack. Seems to me Hitch appreciates the atmosphere created by the passive while distainfully rejecting the active, which INC noted.
Spirit of 1776 on May 21, 2007 at 1:54 AM
I rarely comment here, but I am prompted to because of all the support on this thread for Christopher Hitchens.
Did you see him on H&C after Falwell’s death? Falwell wasn’t even in the ground yet and Hitchens was blasting him as if he were the worst person to ever live. Even if that was true, you need to show some respect, some decorum, at a time like that.
Blast him a week later, but show some respect when he passes, even if he is your worst enemy. I was not a fan of Falwell either, but I would never have said the bad things Hitchens said about the man, considering how those comments would obviously affect his family. Hitchens is a piece of crap that we should all ignore.
He also dissed all Christians that night, you had to read between the lines to hear it, but it was there. So be it, to each his own, but I have no respect for that man.
prototype on May 21, 2007 at 2:45 AM
The manner of Hitchens’ regular “eulogies” (regardless of who the subject may be) prevents me from respecting him in the least. This does not mean I fail to recognize his specific intellect in regards political and international issues. He’s a smart jerk, and reading him is both painful, and worth the effort.
Freelancer on May 21, 2007 at 2:46 AM
umm, prototype, you posted as I was still typing. You apparently have previously been spared this in the past, but it is a common behavior for Hitchens to ‘bash’ the recently departed. Nice, huh?
Freelancer on May 21, 2007 at 2:48 AM
A cursory look at the front page of this site or plugging the word “Hitchens” into its search function might be in order for you.
baldilocks on May 21, 2007 at 2:59 AM
Thanks Freelancer. I didn’t realize that was “normal” behavior. Painful but worth the effort, I’ll try to keep that in mind.
baldilocks, sorry, I only visit occasionally and mostly ignore the left column. I had not seen that thread. I’ve read it now, but I’m still trying to absorb to range of comments…
prototype on May 21, 2007 at 3:28 AM
I had a teacher who never read past the second page. I figured it out and would type a great two pages and then just put in whatever…Preamble of the Constitution, DoI or what ever fit my fancy.
I guess you can’t really read a paper when you have no aids and 3 classes of 150 students…it is just impossible.
Tim Burton on May 21, 2007 at 3:42 AM
OH GOOD GRACIOUS!!! That is pricelessly, deliciously red meaty-ish!
csdeven on May 21, 2007 at 7:02 AM
Your comment is understandable and I understand the feelings. Being “tricked” into reading someones tripe that makes you sick to your stomach is bothersome. But this is the nature of discussion forums. Just shake it off and read a different thread.
csdeven on May 21, 2007 at 7:15 AM
I can’t decide if I hate him (for the Falwell comments) or love him (for the liberal-bashing comments). All I can say, is at least the guy is honest – he tells it like he sees it, political correctness be damned! More people should be as forthcoming as he.
pullingmyhairout on May 21, 2007 at 8:58 AM
I don’t think that he said a single thing I don’t agree with. That said, the Falwell attacks were misguided.
Jaibones on May 21, 2007 at 9:36 AM
I’d say his attacks on Falwell were less misguided and more excessive. Falwell’s life work was fair game to criticize in a tasteful manner, but the sheer glee that so many took in his death was where I drew the line.
Bad Candy on May 21, 2007 at 10:01 AM
This is the first time he’s said something I agree with. Like him or not, this is a point that should be taken to heart. This country was created so that everyone could practice their own religion without fear of being persecuted. Incidentally, non-believers fall under this protection as well, even though it just so happened to be a predominantly Christian country. I think it’s worth noting the type of religion this country is based on, because another thing that Hitchens mentioned was that secularism=pacifism. This made sense to me too. Today we see the liberal left, who I see as secularists, constantly beating down the Christian religion. At the same time they refuse to defend this country’s most basic laws and try to appease and pacify every group out there, the most notable one being the extreme muslims. This is a slippery slope and scares the hell out of me. I don’t understand how the dhimmicrats can be so short sighted, I suspect more that they’re just greedy and power hungry which is bothersome too because the Republicans are not immune to that either.
In short, (sorry about the rant) I think Hitchen’s point is that though he doesn’t believe in the God our country was founded on, the U.S.A. , has been and is worth fighting for. But we won’t feel that way if we all become secular PC pacifists.
4shoes on May 21, 2007 at 10:33 AM
That was a brilliant quote. I love Hitchens. Obviously, I don’t agree with his take on Christianity, but he’s the type of person we need to see more of in this country.
PRCalDude on May 21, 2007 at 11:44 AM
prototype on May 21, 2007 at 2:45 AM
Many of us disagreed with his timing and tone, and stated so repeatedly during the Falwell death threads.
Entelechy on May 21, 2007 at 1:54 PM
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