Comments on: Must read: Basra set to disintegrate as Shiite militias overrun city http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:12:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: b42aaa26db8f http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-1117914 b42aaa26db8f Sun, 11 May 2008 18:02:42 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-1117914 <strong>b42aaa26db8f...</strong> b42aaa26db8f1b61d0ca... b42aaa26db8f…

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]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Shock: Security returning to Basra says Times of London http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-730537 Hot Air » Blog Archive » Shock: Security returning to Basra says Times of London Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:29:04 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-730537 [...] to jinx it by even touching it. Basra’s been a Shiite gangland for years but was set for total disintegration earlier this year as the Brits pulled out and the militias got set to turn the city into [...] [...] to jinx it by even touching it. Basra’s been a Shiite gangland for years but was set for total disintegration earlier this year as the Brits pulled out and the militias got set to turn the city into [...]

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Iraqi interpreter to Totten: “Nuke Iraq”; Update: Maliki must go, says Time http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-635333 Hot Air » Blog Archive » Iraqi interpreter to Totten: “Nuke Iraq”; Update: Maliki must go, says Time Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:02:29 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-635333 [...] WaPo’s got a sneak preview today of what post-withdrawal Iraq might look like. The case study is Basra, the disintegration of which was noted by the Guardian three months ago; Steven Vincent, the art critic turned war correspondent, saw it coming two years ago and got a bullet in his head for his trouble. Follow that last link, by all means, and see what the Brits’ “sensitivity” about looking like occupiers produced. From WaPo: But “it’s hard now to paint Basra as a success story,” said a senior U.S. official in Baghdad with long experience in the south. Instead, it has become a different model, one that U.S. officials with experience in the region are concerned will be replicated throughout the Iraqi Shiite homeland from Baghdad to the Persian Gulf. A recent series of war games commissioned by the Pentagon also warned of civil war among Shiites after a reduction in U.S. forces… [...] [...] WaPo’s got a sneak preview today of what post-withdrawal Iraq might look like. The case study is Basra, the disintegration of which was noted by the Guardian three months ago; Steven Vincent, the art critic turned war correspondent, saw it coming two years ago and got a bullet in his head for his trouble. Follow that last link, by all means, and see what the Brits’ “sensitivity” about looking like occupiers produced. From WaPo: But “it’s hard now to paint Basra as a success story,” said a senior U.S. official in Baghdad with long experience in the south. Instead, it has become a different model, one that U.S. officials with experience in the region are concerned will be replicated throughout the Iraqi Shiite homeland from Baghdad to the Persian Gulf. A recent series of war games commissioned by the Pentagon also warned of civil war among Shiites after a reduction in U.S. forces… [...]

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Report: Iranian troops cross into southern Iraq; attack British troops; Update: Sun article added http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-505061 Hot Air » Blog Archive » Report: Iranian troops cross into southern Iraq; attack British troops; Update: Sun article added Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:28:44 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-505061 [...] Why are they choppering in to plant bombs? They own southern Iraq; they could just send the materiel across the border and let their proxies do it for them. And why would they risk trying something as provocative as this with the Brits having already declared their intention to withdraw and the U.S. on the brink of following suit? They’ll have a free hand in Iraq once we’re gone. It’s madness to chance a casus belli with a direct attack on coalition troops. [...] [...] Why are they choppering in to plant bombs? They own southern Iraq; they could just send the materiel across the border and let their proxies do it for them. And why would they risk trying something as provocative as this with the Brits having already declared their intention to withdraw and the U.S. on the brink of following suit? They’ll have a free hand in Iraq once we’re gone. It’s madness to chance a casus belli with a direct attack on coalition troops. [...]

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Sadr surfaces in Iraq, top deputy immediately killed in Basra http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-422467 Hot Air » Blog Archive » Sadr surfaces in Iraq, top deputy immediately killed in Basra Fri, 25 May 2007 16:11:30 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-422467 [...] There’s been a lot of bad mojo about the JAM and southern Iraq in the news lately, from that questionable Guardian piece about Iran inciting the militias as part of its own “summer surge” to the long AP story about Sadr trying to consolidate power in advance of a U.S. withdrawal to the excellent Guardian report about Shiite militia dominance in Basra. If this wasn’t a coincidence, then the British and Maliki are either sending a message to Sadr and his southern capos that they can still make their lives tough if need be or else they’re trying to blast some of his ducks before he can get them in a row and make whatever move he’s planning to make. Gen. Odierno told WaPo that he thinks Sadr came back partly because there are “cracks” in the Mahdi Army that need repairing; officials who spoke to the Times say the same. So now they’ve created another big crack for him to fill before the local chapter splinters and the infighting to fill the power vacuum begins. Don’t be surprised in the next few weeks if other local JAM commanders decide to “resist arrest” and suffer the consequences. [...] [...] There’s been a lot of bad mojo about the JAM and southern Iraq in the news lately, from that questionable Guardian piece about Iran inciting the militias as part of its own “summer surge” to the long AP story about Sadr trying to consolidate power in advance of a U.S. withdrawal to the excellent Guardian report about Shiite militia dominance in Basra. If this wasn’t a coincidence, then the British and Maliki are either sending a message to Sadr and his southern capos that they can still make their lives tough if need be or else they’re trying to blast some of his ducks before he can get them in a row and make whatever move he’s planning to make. Gen. Odierno told WaPo that he thinks Sadr came back partly because there are “cracks” in the Mahdi Army that need repairing; officials who spoke to the Times say the same. So now they’ve created another big crack for him to fill before the local chapter splinters and the infighting to fill the power vacuum begins. Don’t be surprised in the next few weeks if other local JAM commanders decide to “resist arrest” and suffer the consequences. [...]

]]> By: profitsbeard http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-412324 profitsbeard Mon, 21 May 2007 04:37:54 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-412324 tomas- Capone died of syphilis in 1947. He served an 8 year tax evasion sentence starting in 1931, and was freed for "good behavior". If spirochetes hadn't gotten him, he would have been back to work, but, instead,he retired in weakened health, to his Florida estate. That's not much "got rid of". Retirement to an unconfiscated estate. tomas-

Capone died of syphilis in 1947. He served an 8 year tax evasion sentence starting in 1931, and was freed for “good behavior”.

If spirochetes hadn’t gotten him, he would have been back to work, but, instead,he retired in weakened health, to his Florida estate.

That’s not much “got rid of”.

Retirement to an unconfiscated estate.

]]> By: tomas http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-411703 tomas Sun, 20 May 2007 18:18:43 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-411703 Ok...we got rid of Capone we didn't whine like little babies. Ok…we got rid of Capone we didn’t whine like little babies.

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Flashback: Steven Vincent on the disintegration of Basra in 2005 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-411626 Hot Air » Blog Archive » Flashback: Steven Vincent on the disintegration of Basra in 2005 Sun, 20 May 2007 17:09:49 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-411626 [...] Judith Weiss of Kesher Talk saw my post yesterday about Shiite militias overrunning the south and e-mailed to remind me of this piece, published in the New York Times on July 31, 2005, by art critic turned war reporter Steven Vincent. Two days after the article appeared, Vincent was kidnapped by men in a police car; his body turned up hours later by the side of the highway, full of bullet holes. [...] [...] Judith Weiss of Kesher Talk saw my post yesterday about Shiite militias overrunning the south and e-mailed to remind me of this piece, published in the New York Times on July 31, 2005, by art critic turned war reporter Steven Vincent. Two days after the article appeared, Vincent was kidnapped by men in a police car; his body turned up hours later by the side of the highway, full of bullet holes. [...]

]]> By: Krydor http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-411560 Krydor Sun, 20 May 2007 16:27:55 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-411560 Tomas, I think they control Basra in the same manner Capone controlled Chicago during Prohibition. Your denials sound somewhat like J Edgar Hoover adamantly denying the existence of the Mafia. Tomas,

I think they control Basra in the same manner Capone controlled Chicago during Prohibition. Your denials sound somewhat like J Edgar Hoover adamantly denying the existence of the Mafia.

]]> By: Remaining Positive About Iraq : “7.62mm Justice” ™ http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-411528 Remaining Positive About Iraq : “7.62mm Justice” ™ Sun, 20 May 2007 15:27:43 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-411528 [...] Its hard to remain positive when thinking about the possible outcomes in Iraq when you read articles like this one sponsored over at Hot Air. [...] [...] Its hard to remain positive when thinking about the possible outcomes in Iraq when you read articles like this one sponsored over at Hot Air. [...]

]]> By: tomas http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-411316 tomas Sun, 20 May 2007 12:42:56 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-411316 You guys are no better than Jimmy Carter You guys are no better than Jimmy Carter

]]> By: tomas http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-411315 tomas Sun, 20 May 2007 12:42:32 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-411315 You guys lack and perspective other than politics...that sucks the big one. You guys lack and perspective other than politics…that sucks the big one.

]]> By: NoisyRoom.net » Blog Archive » Noisy News Around the Web - 5/19/07… http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-410856 NoisyRoom.net » Blog Archive » Noisy News Around the Web - 5/19/07… Sun, 20 May 2007 04:55:44 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-410856 [...] Must read: Basra set to disintegrate as Shiite militias overrun city - Hot Air [...] [...] Must read: Basra set to disintegrate as Shiite militias overrun city – Hot Air [...]

]]> By: auspatriotman http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-410845 auspatriotman Sun, 20 May 2007 04:41:19 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-410845 A knee jerk reaction agrees with the comment about saving the Kurds. They always were the best and brightest to the US out of the whole country. It will be a fargin shame, deeply, to see the innocents, the common Iraqis get a major screwing from the power-grabing, lust for resources, Iran controlled groups. LIke its been said, a war of attrition, Iran has been operating remote control, our rules of engagement were severly limited and we have over 3400 of the best Americans in the Mansions of the Lord but a lot of hurting family here at home. This whole thing just sucks a big one. A knee jerk reaction agrees with the comment about saving the Kurds. They always were the best and brightest to the US out of the whole country. It will be a fargin shame, deeply, to see the innocents, the common Iraqis get a major screwing from the power-grabing, lust for resources, Iran controlled groups. LIke its been said, a war of attrition, Iran has been operating remote control, our rules of engagement were severly limited and we have over 3400 of the best Americans in the Mansions of the Lord but a lot of hurting family here at home. This whole thing just sucks a big one.

]]> By: Mojave Mark http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-410841 Mojave Mark Sun, 20 May 2007 04:38:37 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-410841 Maybe they just need a slogan? "Islamofascism, so easy a caveman can do it." Maybe they just need a slogan? “Islamofascism, so easy a caveman can do it.”

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » UK papers: Blair’s successor expected to accelerate pullout from Iraq http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-410696 Hot Air » Blog Archive » UK papers: Blair’s successor expected to accelerate pullout from Iraq Sun, 20 May 2007 01:51:01 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-410696 [...] And in so doing, he’ll speed the disintegration of Basra while giving Democrats more leverage to force an American pullout. [Bush] has been briefed by White House officials to expect an announcement on British troop withdrawals from Mr Brown during his first 100 days in power. It would be designed to boost the new prime minister’s popularity in the opinion polls… [...] [...] And in so doing, he’ll speed the disintegration of Basra while giving Democrats more leverage to force an American pullout. [Bush] has been briefed by White House officials to expect an announcement on British troop withdrawals from Mr Brown during his first 100 days in power. It would be designed to boost the new prime minister’s popularity in the opinion polls… [...]

]]> By: profitsbeard http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-410639 profitsbeard Sun, 20 May 2007 01:14:10 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-410639 Typing with too much fury and letting a typo slip: "...destroying a country ruthless<strong>ly</strong>" Typing with too much fury and letting a typo slip:

“…destroying a country ruthlessly“

]]> By: profitsbeard http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-410637 profitsbeard Sun, 20 May 2007 01:12:50 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-410637 Sure glad we didn't send enough troops in the first place. Didn't kill Sadr and destroy his Madhi army when they first arose. Didn't install a mandated secular Constitution. And don't have any leaders of our own who understand the basics of islam or its 1400 year long march of imperialistic expansionism of militant, intolerant ohammadism. Bush seems planty capable of destroying a country ruthlessles when he wants to. Unfortunately, it's America. (Maybe we name to rename the country <strong>NoBorderstan</strong>.) Sure glad we didn’t send enough troops in the first place.

Didn’t kill Sadr and destroy his Madhi army when they first arose.

Didn’t install a mandated secular Constitution.

And don’t have any leaders of our own who understand the basics of islam or its 1400 year long march of imperialistic expansionism of militant, intolerant ohammadism.

Bush seems planty capable of destroying a country ruthlessles when he wants to.

Unfortunately, it’s America.

(Maybe we name to rename the country NoBorderstan.)

]]> By: tomas http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-410631 tomas Sun, 20 May 2007 01:09:18 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-410631 They don't control Basra...They don't have the supply lines from atleast two directions. This is a stupid article. Iran doesn't have the abilities you are giving them credit for. Ridiculous. They don’t control Basra…They don’t have the supply lines from atleast two directions. This is a stupid article. Iran doesn’t have the abilities you are giving them credit for. Ridiculous.

]]> By: Zorro http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-410552 Zorro Sun, 20 May 2007 00:17:03 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-410552 <blockquote>why don’t we hold Iran accountable for this? </blockquote> Because of democraps.

why don’t we hold Iran accountable for this?

Because of democraps.

]]> By: JetBoy http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-410539 JetBoy Sun, 20 May 2007 00:10:08 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-410539 Something I fail to understand...If President Bush said, ad nauseum, "If you help a terrorist, you <em>are</em> a terrorist"...and we know that Iran is in deep with, but certainly not limited to, Basra...why don't we <strong>hold Iran accountable</strong> for this? Something I fail to understand…If President Bush said, ad nauseum, “If you help a terrorist, you are a terrorist”…and we know that Iran is in deep with, but certainly not limited to, Basra…why don’t we hold Iran accountable for this?

]]> By: Krydor http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-410500 Krydor Sat, 19 May 2007 23:36:30 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-410500 Not good, not good at all. You control Basra, you control a pretty signifigant trade route. Not good, not good at all. You control Basra, you control a pretty signifigant trade route.

]]> By: petefrt http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-410473 petefrt Sat, 19 May 2007 23:09:09 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-410473 Even in the worst case, even if we lose all else, we MUST save Kurdistan. Even in the worst case, even if we lose all else, we MUST save Kurdistan.

]]> By: pullingmyhairout http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-410440 pullingmyhairout Sat, 19 May 2007 22:32:19 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-410440 <blockquote>Most can not fathom what democracy means. shooter on May 19, 2007 at 6:24 PM</blockquote> I agree, shooter. How on <em>earth</em> can they <em>possibly</em> understand democracy? The only thing they've experienced is violence. It's all they know. their religion condones it, their state condones it, it surrounds them. It's no wonder they can't get their sh*t together.

Most can not fathom what democracy means.

shooter on May 19, 2007 at 6:24 PM

I agree, shooter. How on earth can they possibly understand democracy? The only thing they’ve experienced is violence. It’s all they know. their religion condones it, their state condones it, it surrounds them. It’s no wonder they can’t get their sh*t together.

]]> By: pullingmyhairout http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/comment-page-1/#comment-410439 pullingmyhairout Sat, 19 May 2007 22:29:34 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/19/must-read-basra-set-to-disintegrate-as-shiite-militias-overrun-city/#comment-410439 <blockquote>sorry had to through my movie geek 2 cents in there… -Wasteland Man.</blockquote> oops. i'm not really a movie geek, so I though he was serious. I just don't "get" the sci-fi stuff. sorry, VinceP.

sorry had to through my movie geek 2 cents in there…

-Wasteland Man.

oops. i’m not really a movie geek, so I though he was serious. I just don’t “get” the sci-fi stuff. sorry, VinceP.

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