And irony of ironies, it may be none other than St. John of Tucson who empowered them to do so.

The trump card conservatives may hold is a constitutional rule that revenue-related bills must originate in the House. The Senate immigration measure……

7/15am 5/21 update: The Washington Times reports that “[f]ewer than 20 senators are publicly committed to supporting the immigration deal that hits the Senate floor today while nearly 40 are already opposed or have serious concerns.” I’m shocked, sh…

The amnesty bill we were told wasn’t an amnesty bill needs more – amnesty? Posted from Hot Air:
One of the few good, if nonsensical, provisions of the bill is the new “points system” that replaces automatic amnesty for extended families with a …

Lets look at this from a realist point of view….if a mother is arrested for a crime and incarcerated for say 2 years, the children are SERIOUSLY affected by this. They go to foster care or to relatives and the court does the best it can for the children yet STILL ENFORCE THE LAW. Guess what? The mother, kids, and relatives eventually GET OVER IT! They come out the other end with the same respect for the law that we all have.

I see no valid reason to enable illegals and their kids to avoid that life lesson and this country is worse for it when we do enable them.

If they are here legally, there should be no problem getting the money to Mexico by a more transparent mechanism.

Would it would be too harsh to ask that they carry some weight for some of the the taxpayer-funded services they receive?

linlithgow on May 20, 2007 at 7:26 PM

Thanks for the reply and for fixing the links.

I don’t think the trend has changed dramatically since 1999/2000 for those observations to be invalid, but I understand your concern.

The Census data I found (also on that page), was from 2002. Statistics may be limited based on the information that was public domain at the time; that’s my guess anyway.

If I find anything more recent, I’ll update it. =)

Bradky, et al…

Last year I did a presentation on illegal immigration to a local Conservative group. I just posted some of the documents I used at my blog site, including one from the Hoover institute that claims integration rates of Hispanics (particularly Mexicans) is poor.

Here’s the link: http://www.theright-stuff.com/archives/000569.html

linlithgow on May 20, 2007 at 5:06 PM

Only one link would allow me to view – rest said I was forbidden access. Interesting but I have to note that in the one from Stanford most of the references that the article cited were 20-29 years old. 1999 seemed to be the most current. I’ll find some others that are more recent. While the paper may be accurate based on the data it used, I would much rather see something not more than five years old for the conclusions it is drawing.

Every employer is required to get a Social Security number from their employees; they have a legal obligation to report wages paid. Saying “oh well, we don’t know” is admitting the scale of subtrefuge and illegal activity that has gone on to support the illegal alien population… at the expense of legal taxpayers.

So, if you forget to report some obscure interest income do you think the IRS will be so kind to you if they find out?

I keep saying it: Class action suit, class action suit, class action suit; this is selective enforcement and against the Constitution.

American taxpayer vs. Federal Govt
Legal Visa holders vs. Federal Govt
American taxpayer vs. Mexico

Mexico has a questionable and corrupt system of government. It is not our job to fix it, especially when her own inhabitants, the illegal aliens of today, REFUSE to demand reform. It’s much easier to come to America with your hand out, what with our perpetual “Please don’t hate us, we know everything is our fault” attitude.

Folks, we didn’t get America handed to us on a silver platter; no one said life would be easy either. There are no guarantees in life except for death (since illegals are exempt from back taxes, that no longer falls into the ‘guarantee’ category… unless you’re a legal American resident).

Mexico, for her oil and natural resource wealth, has a huge portion of her population educated at a third world level (a majority of illegals here – approximately 60% – don’t have a High School diploma). That wasn’t America’s doing and it is not fair, in any sense of the word, to ask Americans to cough up dough they should be spending on their families for some John Does whose idea of progress is to march into our country illegally and demand things they aren’t entitled to.

Sure it’s a difficult problem when the Feds have neglected our sovereignty for so long; and the Senate is on the cusp of introducing another 700 – 100 pages of complexity.

Last year I did a presentation on illegal immigration to a local Conservative group. I just posted some of the documents I used at my blog site, including one from the Hoover institute that claims integration rates of Hispanics (particularly Mexicans) is poor.

Here’s the link: http://www.theright-stuff.com/archives/000569.html

On Fridays show, Bill added a caveate to his support. It had to do with welfare I think. Convenient after all the mail he got after Thursday show. ;-)

Good for the viewers! I couldn’t believe he was endorsing that bill. Doesn’t he know anything about the people that watch his show. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see his ratings go into the toilet if he doesn’t change his attitude about this legislation. He also needs to jettison the racist Geraldo. And that body language lady.

It won’t happen overnight but with a secure border it is not only very doable but we must do it.
Altura Ct. on May 20, 2007 at 3:39 PM

Truely! If we don’t, we just encourage another generation of immigrants to view the rule of law as worthless. If these children have to go back to their parents country, they’ll grow up understanding that the rule of law has meaning.

“don’t think deportation is on the table (Tancredos maybe) but no ones going to deport little children to certain disease, poverty and death.”

Don’t fool yourself. It won’t happen overnight but with a secure border it is not only very doable but we must do it. That is if we value America. Some through attrition and others as they come to light through traffic stops background checks etc. It may take ten years but it can and will be done. Your assertion that many “Christians” won’t support this is based on what? Here is one Christian who supports deportation and I know many others too who do support deportation and then some.

“The trouble is that all sides want perfection the first time around. “

Do you mean like 1986 for example? Or is this like a “do over” to you? No sure how you count but this is far from the “first time around”. The American people were given assurances from our elected representatives many times in the past on this issue that have proved to be false and an in fact out right lies. Particularly from 1965 and 1986. They are doing the EXACT same thing now. Never again!

Yep. O’Reilly’s dead to me after endorsing this bill. Worse, he endorsed KNOWING the damage it will do to the country. And he continues to provide airtime to the racist Geraldo.

jaleach on May 20, 2007 at 1:04 PM

On Fridays show, Bill added a caveate to his support. It had to do with welfare I think. Convenient after all the mail he got after Thursday show. ;-)

Oh, and I am done blogging for a few months. Have at it, folks. See you all on election day.

crosspatch on May 20, 2007 at 3:21 PM

crosspatch, be careful and be well.

Yep, I agree 100%. The illegals are against this because it ISNT amnesty. It forces them to get a work permit and leave should they become unemployed. It forces them to register for a legitimate ID and if they don’t register, it imposes much stricter fines on employers who hire unregistered aliens.

This is not amnesty, it is a guest worker program. The work permits are not permanent.