Video: Hitchens eulogizes Falwell in his own special way; Update: Hitchens blasts Falwell again at Slate
posted at 10:06 am on May 16, 2007 by Allahpundit
We all knew it was coming, but good lord. Even Mother Teresa got off easier than this.
Here’s the transcript in case you’re at work and can’t watch. The Hitchens segment begins about a third of the way down.
Update: Baseball Crank counters with one aspect of the Falwell legacy which “any man would be proud to leave behind.”
Update: If you can believe it, Hitchens’s anti-obit for Falwell at Slate is even harsher than the video.
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Hitch is usually a jerk.
No surprise there.
annoyinglittletwerp on May 16, 2007 at 10:20 AM
I think it’s great that there IS a hell for you to go to Hitch!!
OBX Pete on May 16, 2007 at 10:20 AM
So where is Hitchens going to target his psychotic hatred now? Perhaps he’ll climb a tower with a rifle? If so, maybe he’ll be promoted to Managing Editor.
stonemeister on May 16, 2007 at 10:21 AM
Classy Hitch, acting no different than the DUmmies.
Bad Candy on May 16, 2007 at 10:22 AM
Wow. What a waste of skin. No matter what you believe, to denigrate someone else’s faith at a time of tragedy is callous, cruel, demagogical, narcissistic, and just plain hateful.
On a brighter note, it’s nice to see that CNN is back to pandering to their base after slipping and sliding on the issue of withdrawal from Iraq. /sarc
Tennman on May 16, 2007 at 10:22 AM
You have to admit, though, that Hitch has a great big pair of brass ones.
SouthernDem on May 16, 2007 at 10:29 AM
Hitch is a sad pathetic and usually drunk… jerk. Anyone who thinks Mother Teresa was evil isn’t playing with a full deck.
But I will say how much I enjoy Cooper Anderson. He is really a great journalist. He is about as fair as they come. CNN is lucky to have a least one.
Rightwingsparkle on May 16, 2007 at 10:32 AM
Wow.
On the one hand, I tend not to support speaking ill of the dead, but Hitch is, as always, right on the money.
Even at the time, I saw Falwell’s 9/11 comment to be no better than Maher’s Hero Worship of the Al Queda “pilots” or Moore’s shock that AL Queda would attack a state that voted for Gore.
JayHaw Phrenzie on May 16, 2007 at 10:32 AM
If anyone ever wondered what the wailing and knashing of teeth looked like, well, you just saw a perfect display of it from this scared, scared man.
csdeven on May 16, 2007 at 10:35 AM
I used to give Hitchens the benefit of the doubt. Using Falwell’s passing to sell his lame book while accusing Fallwell of hucksterism is the height of hypocrisy.
Buck Turgidson on May 16, 2007 at 10:39 AM
Wow. Now, I’m not the hugest fan of Falwell. But, I was surprised to hear Hitchens lump Billy Graham in with Falwell and Robertson. Actually, I would be surprised to hear anyone lump Graham in with those two in that way.
Did anyone else think Hitchens sounded like Trump going off on Rosie, by the way?
nailinmyeye on May 16, 2007 at 10:40 AM
Why do liberals despise moral people so much? Is it “hating” in the classic sense? I.E. I truly want their peace of mind? Or is it where the moral person’s clear perception of right/wrong is an affront to a liberal’s intellectually dishonest view of morality?
I have no answers; just questions.
natesnake on May 16, 2007 at 10:41 AM
I doubt atheists are very proud of that performance by Hitchens. As a Christian, I shuddered sometimes when Falwell, Robertson, and the like would say insensitive things. I can only imagine that atheists felt the same way about this poison that Hitchens spewed.
Matticus Finch on May 16, 2007 at 10:45 AM
LOL! Great response.
I really hope he finds Christ as his Savior though. I do pray for him regularly.
Tim Burton on May 16, 2007 at 10:45 AM
Personally I really don’t care what the editor of Vanity Fair magazine thinks.
vcferlita on May 16, 2007 at 10:51 AM
1. Were the Prophets in the OT sensitive?
2. They don’t feel the same way, they have been posting the exact same thing over at Dummy Underground. Don’t believe me?
Take a look!
Tim Burton on May 16, 2007 at 10:53 AM
Prayers to Falwell’s family…
I cannot keep from thinking of the similarities betweem “our” reverends and “there” reverends differing only in political agenda.
Sharpton, Jackson, Falwell, Robertson, Elhilaly etc etc etc…
Go ahead and stone me,
GoingThere on May 16, 2007 at 10:54 AM
Careful who you callin’ moral.
Falwell’s moral score card is hardly clean.
There is a huge diffrence between being moral and being a moralizer.
liberrocky on May 16, 2007 at 10:55 AM
ooops…”their” reverends…
Maybeeeee Satan made me do it!
GoingThere on May 16, 2007 at 10:56 AM
Hitchens doesn’t differentiate between people of faith, he abhors them all. I am a huge Hitchens fan and this does not surprise me. However, having said that, I condemn it. It is one of the two beliefs (or nonbeliefs) of Hitchens I just can’t stomach.
Glynn on May 16, 2007 at 10:56 AM
So do I, Tim, so do I.
Glynn on May 16, 2007 at 10:57 AM
Right on. Hitchens gets way to over the top about religion. He reminds me of Andrew Sullivan and gay marrige.
liberrocky on May 16, 2007 at 11:00 AM
How else is he going to get noticed and sell books?
I think he’s projecting. He’s waking up and “pinching his chubby little flanks” amazed he’s gotten away with it yet again.
That’s one of the things I admire about a woman who’s name i am no longer allowed to mention on HA or I will be banned – she is honest about what saying shocking things does for her career.
TheBigOldDog on May 16, 2007 at 11:02 AM
Except his comments were right. The Clintons were more worried about homosexuals in the military, homosexual rights, feminist rights and all sorts of non-issues than they were of National security. Heck, as I said, “Clinton was more busy getting head than getting Osama.”
Tim Burton on May 16, 2007 at 11:05 AM
Very sad. That anyone would be so full of themselves and self righteous is beyond me. But he better get ready, I thought of the death of King Herod. Was not a pretty sight. Basically for the same offense. Ps 105:15, whether he believes it or not does not matter. I’ve watched it many times. If there is the smallest possibility that Falwell was called, or anyone for that matter it’s best to keep your hands off.
mjkazee on May 16, 2007 at 11:06 AM
Because they hate people, like their parents, who set boundaries on behavior and are seen as passing judgment on them. They want to do whatever they want and not be told there are everlasting consequences.
TheBigOldDog on May 16, 2007 at 11:09 AM
I (heart) Hitch.
Enrique on May 16, 2007 at 11:12 AM
“People like that should be out in the street, shouting and hollering with a cardboard sign and selling pencils from a cup. The whole consideration of this — of this horrible little person is offensive to very, very many of us who have some regard for truth and for morality, and who think that ethics do not require that lies be told to children by evil old men…”
Hitchen’s argument begs the question. If his view is correct, where did his sense of justice come from? By what right is he offended, and who is to say what is true or moral?
samuelrylander on May 16, 2007 at 11:12 AM
Ok, I’ll make you a deal. You list one person who is alive who has done more for the poor, downtrodden and ill than Falwell.
Hell, for everyone who was up in arms over his hating of homosexuality he helped get hospices set up for AIDS victims of all sexuality. He preached pro-life and practice it too. He set up places for single women who were pregnant and gave them work training and if they decided to give the child up for adoption helped get the child to a good Christian family.
He preached that public education was an absolute failure (seeing how I work in public schools I know that is true), so he set up a K-12 school and helped get poor people into it. The school’s scores would make any private school and ALL public schools would be jealous.
He bought Liberty Mountain, which had residential developers looking at buying and built some of the university at the base and preserved the rest so it would retain it’s natural beauty.
He set up a law school that teaches Original Intent.
Tim Burton on May 16, 2007 at 11:14 AM
Hitchens really seems to be angry and bitter inside. His facial expression defies him as a miserable person. I hope this man has a real spiritual transformation one day.
CP on May 16, 2007 at 11:15 AM
Very sad.
I remember when there used to be some restraint and civility when someone passed away. It is a shame that Hitchens and others feel the need to lash out at people less than 24 hours after someone has passed.
I’m no fan of Falwell, but at least wait until the body goes cold. I didn’t respect Anna Nicole Smith either, but somebody’s death is not the time to start trashing someone.
It seems so obvious. Apparently not.
asc85 on May 16, 2007 at 11:16 AM
Well, I’m sure atheists who write for popular right-wing blogs with a substantial readership of believers aren’t going to openly express their pride in Hitchens, but the rest of us really don’t mind. Frankly, we’re sick of politely accepting the blithe contempt heaped upon us by the “culture of life” so it’s really no skin off our noses if Hitchens comes off as rude or insensitive.
I feel no joy about Falwell’s death, but I didn’t feel any joy about his life either.
Enrique on May 16, 2007 at 11:18 AM
Stop implying that all ‘atheist/anti-theist/agnostics’ are liberals/democrats/DUmmies. ffs.
Anyway, I’m just disappointed Hitchens is taking this route to pimp his book.
I’m tempted to say ‘the Anne Coulter route’ but I’ve just got annoyed at someone else for making blanket statements so I’ll try not to do the same. Besides, I just know how much fun the comments section would be after that..
Reaps on May 16, 2007 at 11:19 AM
I think hidden in Hitchens’ rant is a good point about Falwell and other religious leaders in general: they often do get a pass on ridiculous statements and absurd bigotry simply because they are “people of faith.”
If Falwell wasn’t a respected Reverend his comments about 9/11, the Jews, or the Teletubbies would simply be laughed off as the ravings of a lunatic; he just would not be taken seriously and no one would step up to defend him. But because he is a pastor, because what he believes, even those who disagree with him will say “they understand where he’s coming from,” or “he’s being taken out of context.”
I think Hitchens loses this point by making it sound like all religious leaders or people of faith are immoral; this clearly isn’t true; but I believe one should not get a pass for being amoral or being a bigot simply because they believe that’s what God wants them to do….that’s a very scare road to go down. And I definitely agree, lumping Graham in with Falwell and Robertson is clearly neither fair nor just; regardless of your faith or lack thereof it’s hard to argue against the morals and character of Graham.
Oh and on a side note, is honora really banned for good? Am I all alone out here now?
JaHerer22 on May 16, 2007 at 11:20 AM
…And after reading up on some more of the comments I see I’ve already been beaten to that allusion anyway..
Reaps on May 16, 2007 at 11:21 AM
Falwell and Hitchens were similar in that both were/are commentators of things outside their area of interest/expertise. What I mean is Falwell was a man of God who got into politics when he should have remained focused on the church (think Billy Graham.) Hitchens is a political commentator who is trying to speak authoritatively on religion, of which he knows little, or has no personal experience of a religious life. He should focus on secular topics, since that is where is life is centered.
So, let’s strip away their “distractions.” Take away Falwell’s forays into politics and we are left with a man of God. Strip away Hitchens religious attacks and we are left with an angry man with no hope (at least that is what I see). I’ll side with Rev. Falwell.
Mallard T. Drake on May 16, 2007 at 11:21 AM
Quick question as I run out to work:
Does Hitch look like he’s been drinking?
Tim Burton on May 16, 2007 at 11:22 AM
You think the Republicans are screwed up now? Without Falwell, the Republicans would be even more Left than they are now.
Tim Burton on May 16, 2007 at 11:23 AM
Neither Ann nor Hitch say controversial things to sell their books. They say what they believe and are unconstrained by PC.
I admire both for this quality. There are things each says that I agree and disagree with, but there is no question that both of them have convictions.
JayHaw Phrenzie on May 16, 2007 at 11:26 AM
In what context? Surely you jest in suggesting Falwell was the be all end all in charity to the disadvantaged in the modern age. Bill Gates comes to mind in his charitable contributions.
Neither he, nor D’Souza, nor Roberts, nor Ron Paul are correct in this asinine statement, that somehow we bear responsibility, no matter what context they are coming from. He (Falwell) didn’t say that a lack of security and the lessening of our military during the Clinton administration was responsible for 9/11, but that it was God’s punishment for America’s secularism, abortion, and our perversions.
SouthernDem on May 16, 2007 at 11:28 AM
No matter how you felt about Falwell, this individual is a pompous twit…I’ve never heard so much hyperbole in such a short time in my life. Hmmm…
I wonder what would happen if we locked Hitchens and Phelps in a room with only two days food and water and left them there for a week. Whose hate would win out do you think?
Catseye on May 16, 2007 at 11:29 AM
He’s awake, isn’t he?
jdpaz on May 16, 2007 at 11:31 AM
With respect.. PC, no PC, saying what they believe etc etc does not stop such statements from being controversial. I do believe this is why this topic exists in the first place
I certainly agree with you on the notion that at least I know where they stand on issue X Y and Z
Nevertheless, ‘geez’..
Reaps on May 16, 2007 at 11:32 AM
Hitch does have a point about Falwell’s attribution of the 9-11 attacks to “God’s wrath” and “anger” at America.
That’s vintage Fred Phelpsism right there.
There are plenty of other countries in the world far more deserving of “God’s wrath” than America (North Korea? Helloooo?), and they won’t recieve it unless the American military delivers it.
Good Lt on May 16, 2007 at 11:34 AM
Hitch woke up this morning giggling and pinching his chubby flanks, thinking about the 10,000 more books he just sold to his flock with that little tirade.
jdpaz on May 16, 2007 at 11:47 AM
Enrique, I have no contempt for you and what you wish to believe. Hitchens is a smart man, no doubt, with whom I often agree, but he’s also clearly a jerk who’s momma did not raise him right (my apologies to his momma, about whom I know nothing. It’s just an expression.). Taking pride in his inappropriate death-relish is just being joyful about Falwell’s death without having the guts to own it, as Hitch does.
His anti-eulogies are always publicity stunts. The crassness of this one is only amplified by the fact that he’s got a book release fortuitously aligned with the demise of the Reverend. Gee, it’s enough to make you think there’s a God.
marykatharine on May 16, 2007 at 12:00 PM
Poor Hitch. Just one whiff of religion and he loses his marbles. I’m not about to canonize Falwell, (being the good Baptist he was, he didn’t believe in that anyway), but I certainly wish him no ill. I think he was mistaken in mixing religion and politics in such a forceful way. Politics is a dirty business and when religion gets into it, religion always ends up messy.
Ellen on May 16, 2007 at 12:04 PM
Exactly. The man is SO filled with hate that the vile poison just spews out of him like water out of a firehose. Many of us have pointed this out about Hitchens before, in earlier threads. I don’t care if the person that we are talking about here is a televangelist, or an atheist, or a Muslim terrorist, if a person is filled with hate for other human beings, then I can see no reason why any of us should lend ANY consideration to ANYTHING that the hater writes or says. Hitchens has zero credibility. He has NOTHING positive to offer any of us — atheist or Christian alike.
AllahPundit, you are giving this guy WAY TOO MUCH visibility (IMHO). If HotAir is all about giving haters air-time, then you might as well post a Fred Phelps segment every day, in addition to all the Hitchens threads. (Both are notorious haters, as far as I’m concerned.) I was not fan of Jerry Falwell, and even though there may have been one or more elements of truth in Hitchens’ statements in this segment — it does not excuse the other things that this man has said about Mother Teresa, the Graham family, et. al.
Why is it that I get the uneasy feeling that AllahPundit does this on purpose in order to provoke the large number of Christians that hang-out here at HotAir — with the net effect of a substantial increase in traffic and posts? If my suspicions are true, then how can HotAir say that it has any more credibility than Hitchens (all religions are evil) or Falwell (9/11 was God’s vengence on America and caused by gay people) or even Fred Phelps. You are on a slippery slope here, my friend. HotAir should not serve as an enabler for reprehensible human refuse like Hitchens. Providing these people with a forum to spread their message of hate is a sin that only the MSM is worthy of — I had higher hopes for HotAir.
CyberCipher on May 16, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Falwell’s body isn’t even cold yet and we’re already getting “let’s trash Falwell” segments on CNN. It’s amazing! Anna Nicole Smith got more respect than this after her death!
Joshua P. Allem on May 16, 2007 at 12:10 PM
I’m still waiting for Hitchens to finish his debate with Douglas Wilson. Since Hitchens is pinned into a corner, it looks like he’s gone onto greener pastures.
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 12:12 PM
Many of you seem to give him credibility when he is spouting neocon rhetoric instead of atheiest rhetoric.
JaHerer22 on May 16, 2007 at 12:16 PM
To my delight, it’s up.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/mayweb-only/120-22.0.html
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 12:18 PM
And this kind of mean-spirited, compassionless stunt will give good atheists a bad name, in almost the same way Falwell’s mean-spirited, compassionless stunts gave good Christians a bad name. Oh, sweet irony…
JaHerer22 on May 16, 2007 at 12:23 PM
Yeah, that’s right. And you haven’t been banned from HotAir yet either. Miracles happen everyday. And some people say that there is no God.
/snark off
CyberCipher on May 16, 2007 at 12:25 PM
Why is it ‘mean-spirited’ and ‘compassionless?’ What is ‘good’?
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 12:25 PM
Atheists are more capable of hate than Christians. They have revealed themselves.
Rose on May 16, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Where’s the substantial increase in traffic? No one links to the atheism posts. I post them because they always touch off an interesting debate in the comments. You posted a rather lengthy comment here yourself.
Allahpundit on May 16, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Don’t be too sure of that. That’s not the way you want to argue ;)
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 12:29 PM
>You have to admit, though, that Hitch has a great big pair of brass ones.
No he doesn’t. He’s a sniveling little Marxist who will turn on all conservatives and traditionalists and Republicans the moment when/if the war ends. He’s always been deserving of a severe ass-kicking. Here’s to hoping he gets one — maybe after Hugh Hewitt’s done kissing it as he usually does each week.
Drum on May 16, 2007 at 12:29 PM
Tim Burton,
I wasn’t aware of all of Fallwell’s accomplishments, but it doesn’t surprise me. When it comes to people of religion the media would rather focus on the negative. They are under the misconception that Christians see themselves as perfect or as non sinners. Nothing could be further from the truth of course. Falwell pointed out sin and how to avoid it. The media and the left can’t abide that.
I always reserved my judgement of Fallwell or any other religious leader because I don’t trust the media’s view. It’s obvious here that many bought the media’s view and that’s too bad.
Rightwingsparkle on May 16, 2007 at 12:29 PM
Allah,
Check out the link I provided. PLEASE.
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 12:29 PM
>I’m still waiting for Hitchens to finish his debate with Douglas Wilson.
I think Hitchens should debate someone a little saner than Wilson; someone like Michael Horton, for instance. He won’t, however, because he can’t deal with reality. Hitch is an ideologue; an amusing, often intelligent and thoughtful, ideologue, but an ideologue nonetheless. And it’s wise to keep one’s powder dry during temporary alliances with ideologues such as Hitchens, for he holds nothing as permanent except his own puffed up mind.
Drum on May 16, 2007 at 12:39 PM
I don’t “buy the media’s view” on Falwell. Not once have I seen some MSM hit piece on him (which is not to say one doesn’t exist). Falwell proved himself through his own statements.
SouthernDem on May 16, 2007 at 12:40 PM
Huh? Saner? Wilson is doing just fine on his own. Horton would agree. Here’s his denomination:
http://www.crechurches.org/html/anselm.html
Confessional, reformed, about as sane as you can get.
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 12:43 PM
I stand by my statement. I have never seen the level of hatred that I have seen from unbelievers towards believers not only on liberal websites but also on this one. It astounds me. I grew up in the 60′s and 70′s and even then I never saw this level of animosity. Differences of opinion is one thing but these people are uncivilized in their manner and speech.
Rose on May 16, 2007 at 12:46 PM
>Huh? Saner? Wilson is doing just fine on his own.
Have to disagree. I’ve been reading Wilson for 16 years (when he presumed to be the last word on classical education — a subject which wiser, more balanced, minds have handled much better for hundreds of years), and I think that aside from bits and pieces of humor and a little wisdom, he’s unbalanced and his outpost in Moscow is practically a cult.
Drum on May 16, 2007 at 12:47 PM
>when he presumed to be the last word on classical education
In a book (Recovering the Lost Tools of Learning) about a speech (Dorothy Sayers’ The Lost Tools of Learning).
>his outpost in Moscow
That would be Moscow, ID.
Drum on May 16, 2007 at 12:49 PM
Fair enough. He’s doing fine here though, can we agree on that?
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 12:50 PM
a contrast and compare between reactions to hitch’s pro-liberation comments and these anti-clerical comments (which, btw, are in agreement with one another for his part) would be a funny read.
can anyone dispute his specific claims. or any of the litany of other truly condemnable bent arrows in falwel’s quiver?
jummy on May 16, 2007 at 12:53 PM
>He’s doing fine here though, can we agree on that?
I have almost as much trouble with Wilson as I do with Bill Gothard. It’s not so much Wilson’s essential theology that troubles me as it is his piling on of other burdens which are at root cultural, and not theological, and so tend to alienate.
Drum on May 16, 2007 at 12:56 PM
Guilty as charged. My bad.
CyberCipher on May 16, 2007 at 12:59 PM
Drum,
Yes, but he’s not doing that in his debate with Hitchens. He’s sticking to apologetics. See my link above.
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 12:59 PM
Regardless of how we may feel about Wilson, he was pwning Hitchens hard!
Ouch! Being compared to Bill Gothard? That’s gotta hurt.
jdpaz on May 16, 2007 at 1:01 PM
Exactly my point! Pwn3d!
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 1:01 PM
This is so true! A same sort of alignment is presently happening in the antiwar movement: you have anti-state, free-market radicals (Ron Paul; Justin Raimondo) lining up with Marxist totalitarian greens (Dennis Kucinich; Amy Goodman), all in the name of peace! It’s pretty amusing.
Drum on May 16, 2007 at 1:02 PM
>See my link above.
I’ve just printed the whole thing out. My apologies up-front if I find myself eating crow …
Drum on May 16, 2007 at 1:04 PM
Haha! No worries.
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 1:05 PM
God, being the just God He is, has a special place for such a hateful man as Hitchens. With that said, I have to admit that I agree with some of the vomit he spewed forth. His analysis of wearing a cross makes President Putin a good man, was right on. Just wearing an idol does not make any of us good. Only by striving everyday in word as well as deed to be more like Christ and to obey Gods commandments makes us good Christians.
May the Almighty God Bless the Rev. Falwell and his Family.
abinitioadinfinitum on May 16, 2007 at 1:14 PM
PRCalDude,
I checked that link, biased by the lenses of Christianity that I am I thought Hitch got hammered. I was quite amused by Wilson’s comment
Whereupon he then proceeded to obliterate Hitchens poorly constructed diatribe of personal injury and human solidarity. This round clearly goes to Wilson, and while Wilson might cheerfully grant Hitchens intellectual superiority this exchange clearly does not.
doriangrey on May 16, 2007 at 1:15 PM
I’m glad the thought of Hitch roasting in hell makes God happy.
Allahpundit on May 16, 2007 at 1:16 PM
This statement summarizes the arrogance, smugness, and contempt for others that seems to come so freely from Christians.
JayHaw Phrenzie on May 16, 2007 at 1:25 PM
Allahpundit,
The thought that Hitchens might roast in hell does not make god happy.
doriangrey on May 16, 2007 at 1:26 PM
I suspect it is because it hurts their feelings when someone harshly judges their perverted tendencies.
Perchant on May 16, 2007 at 1:27 PM
It makes God happy when sinners come to repentance, not when he has to punish them. There’s not a special place in hell for Hitchens. But yes, he needs to repent and believe, especially since he has no logical moral framework for rejecting Christianity.
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 1:30 PM
abinitioadinfinitum needs to put a little of the Sermon on teh Mount into practice.
God’s not happy at the thought either, to wit:
jdpaz on May 16, 2007 at 1:31 PM
Thank you.
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 1:34 PM
We all had the same thought going there.
jdpaz on May 16, 2007 at 1:36 PM
Ellen: Cal Thomas and the Rev. Ed Dobson(no relation to James) wrote a book called “Blinded By Might”-which was about the dangers of mixing politics and Religion.
It came out in 1999 I think.
You can find it on Amazon
I have copy somewhere in this mess-we’re moving in 2 weeks-and I recommend it to all of you.
Btw-Both Cal Thomas and Rev. Dobson worked for Rev. Falwell in the late 1970′s-early 1980′s.
annoyinglittletwerp on May 16, 2007 at 1:37 PM
It hurts him more than it hurts us, in other words. Even though we’ll be burning for eternity.
Allahpundit on May 16, 2007 at 1:37 PM
Boy, then I’m certain to end up in hell, if that’s the case. Define “striving,” because I’m certainly striving and I’m still a creep! Nonetheless, am I powerful enough to mold myself into being like God? That sounds more like Hitchens’s approach to life. Maybe he’s going to heaven!
Drum on May 16, 2007 at 1:39 PM
I did not say it will make God happy, quite the contrary. Hitchens soul will be another soul lost from Gods Love. I only said God is JUST. If you have a judge who lets criminals off the hook, kind of like the liberal judges all across America. That is not JUST. Look what it is doing to our country.
I do Pray for You AP, I honestly do. I have thought of your conversion to Christianity, with the following you have at this Blog. It would spark many here to at least give God a look.
God Bless You
abinitioadinfinitum on May 16, 2007 at 1:39 PM
God is righteous. He can’t be good and at the same time be apathetic toward evil. It’s much the same as our criminal justice system: there is no justice if murderers aren’t punished for what they’ve done, even if they do good things afterward, even if they can’t undo what they’ve done.
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 1:39 PM
AP I didn’t pull hell out of that comment but after reading again… The thing to remember is that it is Hitchs’ choice. Driving along we come to a dead end. Not sure which is the correct way to turn to find our desired destination. Have to make a choice though. Now what is down that road, left or right, has been there since before we were born. One is good for us the other is not. So we choose. Did someone make us go, no but standing still with no progress or purpose isn’t viable. So if we choose the wrong way we have to remember no one sent us, it was our choice.
mjkazee on May 16, 2007 at 1:40 PM
I agree, Drum. This is completely unbiblical.
PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 1:40 PM
Well, there is no doubt that most Christians that post on this board relish the thought of us heathens roasting like chestnuts for eternity.
The smugness drips through in every post.
JayHaw Phrenzie on May 16, 2007 at 1:42 PM
…and merciful! He paid everyone’s penalty…if only they’d accept it.
jdpaz on May 16, 2007 at 1:43 PM
Yes, except in this case we’re not talking about murder, are we? We’re talking about the grave, grave sin of not believing in God. He’s prepared to condemn you to an eternity of suffering simply for not following him. There’s your “righteousness.”
If an American judge sentenced a man to a lifetime of exquisite torment, constant and unceasing, we’d call him a monster regardless of what that man had did. When God does the same thing for eternity, you call him “righteous.” Keep it up.
Allahpundit on May 16, 2007 at 1:45 PM
JayHaw Phrenzie,
Actually there is more than considerable doubt, it just pleases you to assert otherwise. It gives fuel to your ability to rationalize your convictions that Christians are all hypocrites and hence Christianity worthless.
doriangrey on May 16, 2007 at 1:48 PM
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