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Pelosi proposes, then quickly withdraws, rule change to shut out GOP minority

posted at 5:34 pm on May 16, 2007 by Allahpundit
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From Drudge bombshell to news article to sinfully delicious talking points to retreat in the span of about three hours.

Might be a new record.

Update: Politico’s noticed a trend:

Democrats are wielding a heavy hand on the House Rules Committee, committing many of the procedural sins for which they condemned Republicans during their 12 years in power.

So far this year, Democrats have frequently prevented Republicans from offering amendments, limited debate in the committee and, just last week, maneuvered around chamber rules to protect a $23 million project for Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.).

On Wednesday, Democrats suggested changing the House rules to limit the minority’s right to offer motions to recommit bills back to committee — violating a protection that has been in place since 1822.

Much of this heavy-handedness is standard procedure in the House, where the majority has every right to dominate, but it contradicts the many campaign promises Democratic leaders made last year to run a cleaner, more open Congress…

This perceived drift by the party in power resembles a similar drift by the Republicans after they stormed to power in 1994 as a spirited band of small-government reformers. The realities of the majority eventually forced them to play with the rules, too, and ignore many of the reforms they approved during their first months in power.


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Palamino got pwned.

liberrocky on May 16, 2007 at 5:40 PM

Yeesh, what were they thinking?

Better yet, why weren’t they thinking? **

** rhetorical question

Citizen Duck on May 16, 2007 at 5:40 PM

Sometimes I am so ashamed that Pelosi is from California, no wait I am always ashamed that she is from California, there are just times (like this) where I am more ashamed.

doriangrey on May 16, 2007 at 5:49 PM

Damn, damn, DAMN!!!

I really wanted this fight to last a little longer and become more public. To say it would have been a good talking point for us is an understatement of epic proportions.

thirteen28 on May 16, 2007 at 5:49 PM

redstate.com down?

lorien1973 on May 16, 2007 at 5:52 PM

Holy Palomino!!!!!!

oakpack on May 16, 2007 at 5:53 PM

I’m still laugh! Those Palomino comments fit (so to speak)…

Allah, please re-post that SNL clip for “light Friday” laugh.

Zorro on May 16, 2007 at 5:57 PM

Heh. All I saw was the Drudge article that mentioned the proposed rule-change affected a procedure that hasn’t been touched since 1822. Gold! What could be so different now that forces a revision to a 185-year-old precedent?

Yes, it’s too bad that Palomino’s proposal didn’t stay alive long enough to score some points in the news cycle.

Anton on May 16, 2007 at 6:00 PM

Ah… come on… its just part of her plan to run the most honest Congress Evuh! You know… just following up on all those promises of bipartisanship!!

/sarc off

Romeo13 on May 16, 2007 at 6:01 PM

The mere suggestion of changing the rule emphasizes something that Palominio – I mean Pelosi – has little to no control over: the fractured identity of her own party. They may have “control” over congress because there are more folks with a (D) next to their name, but this doesn’t mean they actually have functional control over the way their own party will vote.

Perhaps they can change the Constitution to eliminate all members of the opposing party from participating in congressional activities – maybe that will enable them to pass a few things…

Mibrilane on May 16, 2007 at 6:03 PM

So Pelosi blinked…. more??? less?? how do you tell?

The unsaid talking point is that the rule was unchanged for a 185 years until the first Madame Speaker found herself unable to get her legislation passed. Pushing the change admits to her poor leadership skills and that success could only be obtained with a lower threshold. Denny Hastert never needed to change the rule, perhaps it was due to the poor leadership from which the minority opposition at that time also suffered.

Which is a bigger badge of failure, pushing for the change in rules or retreating from the attempt?

rw on May 16, 2007 at 6:04 PM

Slowest.

Sites.

EVAR!

Crimeny, AllahP.

Pelosiis officially INSANE.

Mazztek on May 16, 2007 at 6:08 PM

Pelousy is worse than any Republican could have hoped for. The liberals will get ulcers when trying to spin this away.

“Oh crap! How can we blame this on Bush?!?!”

DannoJyd on May 16, 2007 at 6:15 PM

Somewhere in the back of my mind I was hoping she would actually do this. When you are in the majority you OWN the place. I was hoping the Republicans could have learned this lesson, and when they regained control they could have shut the democrat party down.

I suppose, in the long run, this is better…?

SouthernGent on May 16, 2007 at 6:23 PM

The dems blinked … well, everyone except Pelosi of course. Nice job, let’s see more of the same please. Backbone that is …

darwin on May 16, 2007 at 6:24 PM

The donks ought to just come right out and switch their party icon from a jackass (although it still retains much relevancy, I’ll admit) to a cockroach.

Both species share one salient characteristic: a decided preference for doing things in the shadows. Shine a light on what they’re up to, and they flee.

Spurius Ligustinus on May 16, 2007 at 6:26 PM

It took them longer than it took Fred to respond to Mr. Bloat.

I also was hoping for this to go into effect. Hopefully it livened the conservatives’ cojones. I’m so happy the vault will keep these things for a later date.

Entelechy on May 16, 2007 at 6:26 PM

Pelosi figures that Chavez did it, plus nationalized the private sector, declared himself president for life – who needs pesky elections when everyone KNOWS the people want Chavez forever and ever? Pelosi is already acting extra-constitutionally by conducting foreign policy.
The MSM loves the ol’ dictators – so much it’s amazing they don’t love Bush – they’ve made him into the image of their idols, Chavez, Castro and Mugabe.

naliaka on May 16, 2007 at 6:30 PM

redstate.com down?

I haven’t been able to get to them either- looks like they got Drudge-alanched.

Hollowpoint on May 16, 2007 at 6:31 PM

Well according to AP News of course its all the republicans fault

Row over words delays House action By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON – The House was tied in knots Wednesday by a partisan row over matters that only a parliamentarian could love: “germaneness,” “motions to rise,” “pay-go.”

Democrats said the day of dilatory huffing and puffing did nothing but postpone action on an annual military policy bill. But Republicans declared victory, at least temporarily, saying their stalling tactics forced Democrats to drop a bid to hinder the minority party’s ability to offer contentious changes to legislation.

The hubbub’s seeds were planted early this year, when congressional Democrats vowed to pay for new programs with spending cuts or tax hikes. The pay-as-you-go plan is often called “pay-go.”

The promise hobbled Democrats in late March, when Republicans sought to block a bill to give the District of Columbia a voting member in Congress and to give Utah an extra House seat.The bill included a tiny tax increase to pay for the House expansion.

House rules require amendments to be germane to the bill at hand. Both parties have used the rules for years to keep the minority from offering unwanted changes.

But in March, House Republicans successfully argued that the tax provision in the D.C. voting bill opened the legislation to many topics. They offered an amendment to overturn D.C.’s strict gun-control laws, forcing Democrats to strike the entire bill.

Republicans had similar successes on other bills, prompting Democratic vows to change the procedures linking pay-go and germaneness, which they said the GOP was abusing. House Republicans responded with a day of civil disobedience Wednesday, starting with a time-consuming motion to adjourn as soon as the chamber convened.

By late afternoon, Republicans had demanded four quorum calls, a second adjournment motion and four “motions to rise,” another form of quorum call. Each required a slow-moving roll call vote summoning members back to the chamber, making it virtually impossible to proceed on the defense authorization bill.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., sought a truce in a private meeting with his GOP counterpart, John Boehner R-Ohio. Boehner later told reporters that he doubted Democrats would try to change the procedures.

Hoyer said in a statement, “Republicans have repeatedly exploited Democrats’ pledge to abide by our fiscally responsible ‘pay-as-you-go’ rules” to offer unrelated changes to important bills “solely to score political points.” He added: “There will not be a change before the Memorial Day recess.”

William Amos on May 16, 2007 at 6:33 PM

Wow, it seems the GOP Congress is outflanking Pelosi like Robert E. Lee against a Union General.

Except for 100 days in 1995, where is this accumen when they are in the majority?

Valiant on May 16, 2007 at 6:51 PM

William A, it’s best to supply links. Give it a try (we all had to overcome these steps :)

1. When you read an article, capture the URL, or the HTTP string by clicking on it (to the right of Address), then click the right mouse button, or Edit, then Copy.
2. The go to the HA path you wish to insert this link.
3. Type a related text (ex. This is an article about)
4. Then highlight all or any part of this text you typed (click in front of a word and drag the mouse toward the right, until you wish to stop
5. Now click on the blue ‘link’ (top, beneath the Logout, or 3rd rubrique, on top)
6. Ctrl+V, or point the mouse inside that little window which just opened, hit the right mouse button and with the left mouse button select Paste.
7. Hit the OK button, also inside this little window.
8. That brings you back to your comment window. Now you can submit, or continue to do whatever, and then submit.

Please try. Your contributions are very valued. We’ve all gone through this and it is threatening, but only once :) Regards,

Entelechy on May 16, 2007 at 6:56 PM

Perhaps they can change the Constitution to eliminate all members of the opposing party from participating in congressional activities – maybe that will enable them to pass a few things…

Mibrilane on May 16, 2007 at 6:03 PM

Isn’t that McCain-Feingold?

William Amos on May 16, 2007 at 6:33 PM

As Mr. Babington derides these tactics, I wonder if he has looked into where these were pioneered.

cmay on May 16, 2007 at 7:04 PM

Steny Hoyer: “There will not be a change before the Memorial Day recess.”

So the Dem leadership has agreed to back off on this for, what, nine days?

It’s good for a change to have won a legislative skirmish, but it sounds like the battle is far from over. This really exposes the Democrats’ ugly authoritarian tendancies.

Still, for today, its a win. Way to go, team! Let’s hope it energizes the GOP for some of the big battles just around the corner, like the immigration amnesty bill.

cool breeze on May 16, 2007 at 7:15 PM

I just hope the GOP will keep its lessons learned playbook handy for the time when they take the majority again. Payback is never good and someone has to take the high ground to stem the partisanship that has not reflected well of either party. It is good to see them using some of the same parliamentary tricks they let themselves be stopped by in the past.

Bradky on May 16, 2007 at 7:19 PM

Fabulous. Thanks for meeting my expectations on fairness Palamino. So glad to see it’s about revenge and retribution.

SouthernDem on May 16, 2007 at 7:23 PM

William Amos on May 16, 2007 at 6:33 PM

Thanks for the info on the AP: they’re alsmost as rotten and vile as the Democrat Party; almost, but not quite

Janos Hunyadi on May 16, 2007 at 8:24 PM

Sometimes I am so ashamed that Pelosi is from California, no wait I am always ashamed that she is from California, there are just times (like this) where I am more ashamed.

doriangrey on May 16, 2007 at 5:49 PM

That’s it doriangrey! I’ll never, ever buy one of your albums again!!!!!

ScottG on May 16, 2007 at 9:21 PM

We all need to remember that the party in power can always look forward to losing it. The party out of power can always look forward to regaining it. What goes around…

Mojave Mark on May 16, 2007 at 9:41 PM

Can you believe we actually have memebrs on this forum that want to teach the republican party a lesson by giving the White House to the dems? All for the pleasure of cutting their noses off to spite their faces?

Palimino and Frankenstein would destroy this country.

csdeven on May 16, 2007 at 11:49 PM

Retreat, it’s what they do best.

dingoatemebaby on May 17, 2007 at 12:51 AM

All Democrats are fascists.

doufree on May 17, 2007 at 9:53 AM

Even when they have the numbers and power to win, the democrats always know how to snatch defeat out from the jaws of apparent victory. LOL!

Mandrake on May 17, 2007 at 1:41 PM

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