Even as the largest minority group in America at just over 44 million, Hispanics represent less than 15% of the total population. However, they accounted for 50% of US population growth from July 1, 2005, to July 1, 2006. In all but nine states, the po…

IrishEi on May 16, 2007 at 2:33

What we need in this country is good honest to God tax revolt.. Nothing will get Gov’s attention more than taking their money away from them.

I can dream, can’t I?

There are essentially four parties in this mess: the Republicans, the Democrats, the Hispanic political groups, and “Big Business.”
The Republicans support illegal immigration because of both Big Business and the Hispanic lobby. Big Business, as is well established, likes illegals because they can pay them far less than they can citizens and legal residents, and that fact also lowers overall salary costs even in jobs held by legals.
The Republicans listen to the Hispanic lobby because they see the demographics and want to get the Hispanic vote, which the HL warns won’t happen if they don’t play ball.

The Democrats support for illegal immigration goes further than the Republicans’ because they want to give the illegals the vote-later through citizenship, sooner through blocking common-sense anti-voting fraud measures (i.e., Voter ID). They know, as the Republicans apparently do not, that the illegals will overwhelmingly support the Democrats at the voting booths. How do we know this? Because socialist economic policies and class-warfare rhetoric have always appealed to the poor and uneducated. Just consider the Dems’ pals Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez.

As for the Hispanic political groups, they support illegal immigration and amnesty (and also oppose anti-voter fraud measures) because the more Hispanics in this country, and the more money they have, and the more of them that vote (leally or otherwise), the more political power those groups will have. So they push and demand and cry “racism” even though the legal citizens and residents in this country who are most directly adversely affected by illegal immigration are those exact legal Hispanics the Hispanic lobby is supposed to be representing.

We need people of working age to pay the taxes, or our future problems will make illegal aliens look like nothing.

pedestrian on May 16, 2007 at 1:02 PM

Not if this fat spending sow of a government were cut off and was required to obey the boundries of the Constitution.

For example, start by eliminating the federal Department of Education.

The only reason your working age taxpayers would be required is to maintain the fat pig.

I work for a delivery service as a dispatcher. I won’t say anything more than that except that there are MAJOR security holes that could create a serious terror incident.

Next week I hope to work up the courage to risk my job by going to the head of security at the airport and talk to them about the security holes. No, we don’t hire any illegals, but awhile back one of my drivers, while filling out his paperwork said, “God! I hate this country!”.

It gave me pause.

I wish I could say more, but beyond risking my job, I don’t want to give any wackos any ideas.

Zetterson on May 16, 2007 at 3:33 PM

I don’t know if I can adequately answer that question, except to suggest that money is a powerful motivator.

I’m not referring to the politicians in D.C. I’m referring to the major players of the international big money interests, who have the politicos in their pockets.

infidel4life on May 16, 2007 at 3:09 PM

But wasn’t the origin question I posed, why are the elected Republicans in favor of amnesty? I understand your point about the international big money interests and I accept it. But what I don’t understand is the leverage that they have over the republican politicians who are obviously approaching a political dead end if they support this. Its like knowing you are going to die in 5 minutes and decide to use your remaining minutes standing in line to buy a lottery ticket.

The solution there is to ban abortion. Why we have abortion and claim to need illegals is beyond me, especially considering our demographic crisis vis-a-vis the Islamic world.

Future historians are going to have a field day with us. Trying to reconcile our deep contradictions ought to win a few scholars a prize or two.

I’m not referring to the politicians in D.C. I’m referring to the major players of the international big money interests, who have the politicos in their pockets.

You’re so dead on it’s frightening. I think we’re dealing with the sort of people who think they can buy their way out of disaster. And why not think this way? Their money has taken care of everything else. Boy, are they in for a big surprise. The Islamofascists aren’t interested in their money. They want their heads on a stick.

PRCalDude on May 16, 2007 at 2:27 PM

I’m not referring to the politicians in D.C. I’m referring to the major players of the international big money interests, who have the politicos in their pockets.

Why don’t we just put up a big sign saying “Welcome to the United States of America. Come right on in. You can ignore trample on our laws, spit on us, burn our flag and fly your own with impunity, collect welfare and food stamps, get a free education and free healthcare at the expense of the taxpayers, drive drunk, drive without a license, undercut the salaries our working class, squeeze our citizens out of state universities and enroll at a reduced rate, demand that everything published by our government be in your native language, vote in national and local elections.

Maybe we should turn the Statue of Liberty around to face us: the tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to be free again.

Again just my opinion, but I think there is an overall attitude and expectation that they will be be able to remain “above the fray” of the minor skirmishes of terrorism and political unrest. If you have enough money and power you can pretty much insulate yourself from everything.

infidel4life on May 16, 2007 at 2:13 PM

Not in this day of WMD, my friend. How does congress insulate itself from a dirty nuke going off in D.C.? They’ve got the illusion of security, nothing more. The barbarians are in the gates, they just haven’t made it to the palace yet. Yet.

Your perception of how severe the problem is depends on where you live. this map shows the percentage above 65 years old. Go there and click on a state to see the population bulge that will be hitting retirement in the next few years. We need people of working age to pay the taxes, or our future problems will make illegal aliens look like nothing.

pedestrian on May 16, 2007 at 1:02 PM

Yes, we need young people. The solution there is to ban abortion. Why we have abortion and claim to need illegals is beyond me, especially considering our demographic crisis vis-a-vis the Islamic world. That said, these people use about 3-4 times the taxes they pay. They don’t pay for any of the babies they have. They just wait until they’re in labor, then they go to the ER. $50,000, right there. They also lie about the number of dependents they have and commit a disproportionate number of crimes.

Unfortunately its a plausible pet theory. My question would be, though, how short sighted can they be? It won’t be a very profitable enterprise once Hezbollah starts pouring into Dallas.

Zetterson on May 16, 2007 at 2:04 PM

Again just my opinion, but I think there is an overall attitude and expectation that they will be be able to remain “above the fray” of the minor skirmishes of terrorism and political unrest. If you have enough money and power you can pretty much insulate yourself from everything.

We need [LEGAL] people of working age to pay the taxes, or our future problems will make illegal aliens look like nothing.

There, I fixed it for you.

pedestrian on May 16, 2007 at 1:02 PM

At least this is my pet theory.

infidel4life on May 16, 2007 at 1:58 PM

Not to mention the fact that their big business budies are not going to be too interested in them once it becomes clear that the Republicans will be in the minority for the next 50 years. Assuming the country lasts that long.

At least this is my pet theory.

infidel4life on May 16, 2007 at 1:58 PM

Unfortunately its a plausible pet theory. My question would be, though, how short sighted can they be? It won’t be a very profitable enterprise once Hezbollah starts pouring into Dallas.

Your perception of how severe the problem is depends on where you live. this map shows the percentage above 65 years old.

Yes, nothing will work better for the retiring boomers than adding a bunch of illegals the will sap the SS fund even more. Good Thinking.

I can see the welfare office from my window at work. So I have the privalege of glancing up and seeing who goes in and out. Now, I am in New Hampshire and believe me when I say the vast majority are latino. I can’t even begin to imagine what it looks like in the southwest when it looks this bad in the northeast.

Zetterson on May 16, 2007 at 1:19 PM

Money.

For some it trumps national interests. The big business/big money corporate wing of the GOP sees dollar signs in all the cheap labor available from south of the border.

There was a recent TV commercial (Morgan Stanley, IIRC) that was pushing investments and dropping all kinds of investment buzzwords/phrases, one of which really struck me: “Borderless Economy” The push towards economic globalization is rendering national borders as secondary to profits to these international big money interests. There is big money behind this agenda.

At least this is my pet theory.