Comments on: How big an impact would a Bloomberg candidacy have?

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » CNN poll: Bloomberg hurts Republican ever so slightly more than Democrats

Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:25:09 +0000

[...] In each case he takes 10 points from the Republican and eight from the Democrat … which is within the margin of error of three points. Plus, it stands to reason that Bloomy would lure voters from Rudy and McCain given that they’re all centrists. Let’s see how he does against Fred in four months or so, after the latter’s begun campaigning in earnest and established himself as the “traditional conservative” candidate. I said last month that a Hillary/Fred/Bloomy free-for-all would be a good deal for the GOP. I’m sticking with it for the moment. [...]

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Bloomberg’s got a fee-vah and the only prescription is 10% of the popular vote

Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:25:32 +0000

[...] He’s running. If he wasn’t, this would be completely superfluous. He was spouting plenty of anti-Beltway boilerplate through his blowhole last night in Silicon Valley, too. A refresher for those who aren’t unfamiliar with him: the guy stands for nothing. He has no discernible principles aside from avoiding the limelight and trying not to screw anything up. As a governing philosophy, you can do far worse than that; as an organizing ethos for a messianic presidential campaign, it’s pathetically wanting. And I’m not just saying that as a resident of the neighborhood Mayor Mike sneered at last year when we were living in Third World conditions for a week thanks to the local power company’s incompetence. Memories are long, Bloomy; when a very minor crisis finally hit, you were awfully slow to act. [...]

By: Robert B. Steely, MSgt, USAF

Robert B. Steely, MSgt, USAF — Thu, 31 May 2007 11:42:37 +0000

Cynthia Mckinney – President ’08?…

Wouldn’t this be rich? Posted from Hot Air:
Are we looking at a five-way race? Bloomberg’s got a billion dollars burning a hole in his pocket; Ron Paul’s going to end up convinced by the neo-Birchers and left-libertarian nutroots that he’s the…

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Election ‘08: Are you ready for McKinneymania?

Wed, 30 May 2007 21:49:33 +0000

[...] Are we looking at a five-way race? Bloomberg’s got a billion dollars burning a hole in his pocket; Ron Paul’s going to end up convinced by the neo-Birchers and left-libertarian nutroots that he’s the messiah and therefore must run; and, if Hillary is in fact the Democratic nominee, the pressure from the hard left for a “real liberal” anti-war alternative will be sufficiently great to put the Greens in play. But who can they get to top the ticket that’ll create some buzz? One obvious possibility has already expressed an interest in running for office next fall. [...]

By: Freelancer

Freelancer — Wed, 16 May 2007 23:20:16 +0000

Exit question: True, and proper analysis of Bloomberg’s potential impact.

He would only take the RINO vote from Fred!, which would hurt Fred! against Obama, not Hillary. He would sap some votes from Rudy among those who think he is more centrist, which would hurt Rudy against Hillary, not Obama.

I don’t see Bloomberg taking votes from Hillary or Obama in either case, the Dems want the White House and they don’t care what it takes to get it.

By: Dudley Smith

Dudley Smith — Wed, 16 May 2007 21:06:57 +0000

Yeah, I really can’t see a single red state that would flip because Bloomberg siphoned votes from the Republican candidate. He’ll pull more Dem or Dem-leaning votes, because he is one. Seriously, Bloomberg simply isn’t considered a Republican (In Name Only, or in any other way) any place besides NY, MA and Vermont. Completely different kind of appeal (if he has any appeal) than the populist Texan Perot had.

By: Jaibones

Jaibones — Wed, 16 May 2007 19:35:16 +0000

Exit question: Assuming Bloomberg gets into the race, the best case scenario for the GOP is Hillary vs. Fred! and the worst case is Obama vs. Rudy. True or false?

Whatever. Let’s take a different tack: if Bloomberg can’t get more than a million votes total, and he’s willing to spend $1 billion, I think he’s badly over paying, at $1,000 per vote.

I suspect that most of the filth in New York, for example, would sell out their vote to the midget King for 25 bucks or a case of malt liquor. So, he won’t win anything, but it shouldn’t cost him more than $50 million, tops.

By: Stephen M

Stephen M — Wed, 16 May 2007 19:00:55 +0000

worst case is Obama vs. Rudy?

Don’t be so damned petulant AP. YES we’ll vote for the anti-terrorist even if he is a New Yorker.
See that’s because for us, we pathetic Out-of-Towners, New York or New Yorker-ism is never the main thing.
Hard to fathom, I know. I know my New Yorkers.

BTW out here in Outer White-landia as Kuby calls it, “That leaves Bloomy with the center” – totally only something a New Yorker could write.
Out here we call Bloomy types Democrats. And they get elected as such.

By: aero

aero — Wed, 16 May 2007 18:31:12 +0000

Haven’t we all learned yet that presidential elections these days can turn on just a few hundred votes in a key state? Bloomberg absolutely could affect the outcome of this election! Not by winning it himself, but by whom he pulls enough votes from. I’m not convinced that a Bloomberg/Hagel ticket wouldn’t hurt the Republican nominee more by pulling too many anti-war right-leaning moderates in key states. They both call themselves Republicans, and have managed to get quite a bit of support in the past from RINO-type voters.

I hope Bloomberg stays out of it. The only independent candidates I want to see are Nader and maybe Gore. Nobody who could possibly fool our unfortunately much-needed right-leaning “moderates.”

By: georgej

georgej — Wed, 16 May 2007 18:09:20 +0000

“Not big enough to win, thinks the WashTimes, but big enough to determine who will.”

He won’t get the nomination. If he runs as an independent, he’ll get less than 1% of the vote and as his positions are leftist/Stalinist on issues such as video surveillence and gun control, his appeal is to the left.

By: Vincenzo

Vincenzo — Wed, 16 May 2007 17:36:31 +0000

Bloomberg owes his victory to Rudy’s handling of 9/11, and at the time New York wanted a smooth transition of mayors during the crisis. Bloomy stood by with Giuliani, and Giuliani gave his approval that Bloomberg would continue to take care fo the city under the duress it had felt.

Otherwise, we would have been back to Dinkins Days in the Rotten Apple.

By: asc85

asc85 — Wed, 16 May 2007 17:30:41 +0000

I am not so sure about the Jewish thing. If the country is willing to elect a black guy they would be will to elect a Jewish guy.

liberrocky on May 16, 2007 at 12:28 PM

Sorry…I respectfully disagree with you. To which black guy are you referring to above. Barack Obama? He hasn’t been elected to anything yet.

As a grit eatin, don’t mess with Texas, pick up driving Christian……it is a non-factor……(no offense Nonfactor). As long as it isn’t a pentagram or a meteorite hanging from the fella’s neck I don’t care.

Limerick on May 16, 2007 at 12:32 PM

I appreciate your enlightened perspective (seriously…no sarcasm intended), but I’m just not sure that many others in States like Texas feel the same way.

By: lan astaslem

lan astaslem — Wed, 16 May 2007 17:21:04 +0000

As long as it isn’t a pentagram or a meteorite hanging from the fella’s neck I don’t care.

Limerick on May 16, 2007 at 12:32 PM

Or a little crescent that always points to Mecca?? Kinda like a compass…

By: Ian

Ian — Wed, 16 May 2007 17:16:23 +0000

God help us.

By: Shivv

Shivv — Wed, 16 May 2007 16:50:33 +0000

Can anyone explain to me why there is any animosity between Bloomberg and Rudy? I live in the NYC media market and if I remember correctly Bloomberg would have lost to Mark Green in a landslide without Rudy’s endorsement.

By: Limerick

Limerick — Wed, 16 May 2007 16:32:51 +0000

but the guy is Jewish,
asc85 on May 16, 2007 at 12:20 PM

As a grit eatin, don’t mess with Texas, pick up driving Christian……it is a non-factor……(no offense Nonfactor). As long as it isn’t a pentagram or a meteorite hanging from the fella’s neck I don’t care.

By: Hilts

Hilts — Wed, 16 May 2007 16:32:35 +0000

Nanny Bloomberg, give me a freaking break? That asshole said that we New Yorkers should thanks the Chairman of Con Ed after the blackouts in Queens last summer. Even the Con Ed Chairman admitted to failure. Nanny Bloomberg also wanted to charge parking tickets to motorists whose cars were stuck in teh snow. Sometimes the contributors on Hot Air (such as Allah) think too much.

By: januarius

januarius — Wed, 16 May 2007 16:31:25 +0000

Liberals love Mayor Bloomberg because of his disastrous education policies that have allowed radicals to hijack entire schools and indoctinate kids in New York.

Here is a great column by Sol Stern that was in Saturday’s New York Post about the radical conference (truly wacky)that met in NYC with taxpayer money:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05122007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/radical_teach_opedcolumnists_sol_stern.htm

Sol Stern is not the only conservative education scholar annoyed with Bloomberg. Diane Ravitch has been battling Bloomberg as well for what he has done to the NYC schools.

By: liberrocky

liberrocky — Wed, 16 May 2007 16:28:34 +0000

asc85 on May 16, 2007 at 12:20 PM

I am not so sure about the Jewish thing. If the country is willing to elect a black guy they would be will to elect a Jewish guy.

I do think, however, that the Meathead Middle that Bloomy would be aiming for is one voting segments that would be least friendly to Jews.

By: Kid from Brooklyn

Kid from Brooklyn — Wed, 16 May 2007 16:28:28 +0000

Exit question: Assuming Bloomberg gets into the race, the best case scenario for the GOP is Hillary vs. Fred! and the worst case is Obama vs. Rudy. True or false?

If Bloomy gets in, it basically clears the way for Fred!.

By: DCJeff

DCJeff — Wed, 16 May 2007 16:28:03 +0000

The economy could always use him spending his money.

By: asc85

asc85 — Wed, 16 May 2007 16:20:25 +0000

I agree with some of the others regarding Rudy’s popularity versus Bloomberg in NYC. Maybe the liberals like Bloomberg better, but that’s about it. Forget about 9/11. Rudy came in and did the impossible. He cut crime SIGNIFICANTLY. And if you think that wasn’t a big deal for those living in the New York Metro area, than you have a very short memory. NYC pre-Rudy was an unsafe sewer. There were always serious discussions that the Yankees would move out of the Bronx due to the crime. That issue hasn’t been raised in more than a decade, I think.

I think an MB candidacy will hurt the Republicans, but hopefully siphons votes aways from the Dems as well.

MB has no chance to win. Why? Perhaps it’s not PC, but the guy is Jewish, and I can’t see a Jewish guy winning a national election in America. By the way…I’m Jewish, so I can get away with saying that. While I was thrilled Lieberman was the VP candidate with Gore, I really wonder how many votes he lost for the Dems in some of those swing states without a significant Jewish population.

By: Iblis

Iblis — Wed, 16 May 2007 16:19:55 +0000

I don’t think Bloomberg will harm the GOP, as he’s too liberal. He’s not even a RINO RINO. He’s big nannystate pusher, who thinks we’re too stupid to run our own lives and for some reason thinks London is the model society. Totally ignoring how the congestion pricing plan is destroying London the jackass. He’ll suck moderate dems away from the dem candidate. The types that’d never vote GOP anyway, but can’t stand Hillary!
He’s a lightweight, and without the charm of Perot he’ll go nowhere fast.
And if Fred! runs, fuggedaboutit.

By: Bob's Kid

Bob's Kid — Wed, 16 May 2007 16:16:22 +0000

And speaking as a Californian, most of us on the left coast don’t really care that much about what happens in NYC, sorry. Not impress.

By: Dean Barnett

Dean Barnett — Wed, 16 May 2007 16:13:46 +0000

True! But Bloomy helps the GOP regardless. Especially if he signs up Hagel as his running mate.