A horror story the MSM won’t tell

posted at 8:57 am on May 16, 2007 by Bryan

The mainstream media finds some crimes more useful than others. Michelle explains.

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Maxx, Link to follow,

What about Hispanics? The national arrest data give the impression that Hispanics are never arrested for anything. Hispanic criminals are, of course, included in the four obligatory racial categories for arrests: white, black, Indian, and Asian. How many in which categories? The US Census Bureau gives us a clue. Its official estimate of the 1997 population divides all 268 million Americans into the four standard racial groups, but adds that there were also 29 million Hispanics who “can be of any race.” However, it also gives an estimate of non-Hispanic whites, non-Hispanic blacks, etc. Thus we find that according to the strictly racial classification there were 221 million whites in the country in 1997 but only 195 million non-Hispanic whites. When American Hispanics–approximately half of whom are Mexicans–are apportioned to the four racial categories, the Census Bureau thinks 91 percent are white, six percent black, one percent American Indian, and two percent Asian. This is crazy–it would be more accurate to consider the majority of them American Indians–but as far as the US government is concerned, almost all Hispanics are white.

Buck Turgidson on May 16, 2007 at 11:56 PM

I’m aware this is the most sensitive of subjects. As much as I hate disclaimers, I’m going to say I respect people of all races, and criminality knows no racial bounds. If we’re going to discuss non-PC subjects I hope to examine them without emotional hostility, or knee-jerk accusations of racism. If it matters, the best man in my wedding was a Mexican-American I grew up a block away from.

Maxx, I’m a poor excuse for web master. You may want to find other source material. Here’s a link with info on crime statistics. The Federal stuff is all PDF so I’m not sure how to link to that.

Buck Turgidson on May 17, 2007 at 12:13 AM

Buck Turgidson on May 16, 2007 at 11:56 PM

I should have block quoted the above from the linked source.

Buck Turgidson on May 17, 2007 at 12:25 AM

This is definitely a newsworthy story, but does anyone really want the grisly details of this horrible crime scrutinized nightly like Holloway,Benet, etc.? I mean I had to turn the news off anytime my kids are around when the Scott Peterson trial was all the rage.

I understand the frustration with the media’s tendencies to prop up certain stories that fit their left-leaning template, but this isn’t the one I want to hear about daily. I’ll just pray for their families and move on.

Ballistic on May 17, 2007 at 12:32 AM

How much you want to bet if the MSM does ever pick up on this story that is exactly the angle they will persue?

Altura Ct. on May 16, 2007 at 11:02 PM

Better to prevent even if the journalistic approach is not what some agree with. To not report at all is to let things like this get into the urban legend status (in terms of white vs black cover up) and stir up more hatred, of which some groups are more than happy to act on.

Bradky on May 17, 2007 at 12:36 AM

If guilty, then these are some insanely bad creatures who should be put out of their -and our- misery quickly.

Dwelling on the details beyond convicting them feeds nothing but the id.

profitsbeard on May 17, 2007 at 2:17 AM

What a courageous and fantastic report HA. Channeling Greta on Fox, at a minimum. We’ve only heard about 500 reports on Halloway by now.

What a real and journalistic tragedy and travesty.

Entelechy on May 17, 2007 at 2:59 AM

Buck Turgidson on May 16, 2007 at 11:56 PM

So in other words, white commit even less crime than the statistics appear to say they do?

I can’t help but wonder what it says about race, culture and civilization….

Tim Burton on May 17, 2007 at 3:41 AM

I’m not doubting you Buck, but how do you know that ?

Hispanics are considered a “linguistic origin” category for most government statistical purposes, not a racial category. They don’t break national arrest rates down for Hispanics, so most Hispanics get tossed into the white category for race by default. The Department of Justice does, however, break down incarceration rates for Hispanic origin. Hispanics are approximately three times more likely than whites to be incarcerated for most common violent offenses. Some might argue that at least some of this could have something to do with differences in enforcement, but the murder rate is consistent with everything else. Murder rates are useful gauges of actual criminality because murders aren’t subject to varying enforcement trends in the same way drug offenses might be. Murders typically involve either a dead body or a person who has disappeared and is presumed dead.

So, when you factor in that about 15% of the United States is black, and half of all murders are committed by blacks, and then you consider that 15% of the U.S. population is Hispanic and they have three times the incarceration rate for murder that whites do….

…well, you can draw your own conclusions about what non-Hispanic whites’ (60-65% of the U.S. population) share actually is and what a substantial increase in the Hispanic population will mean for America’s crime rates as a whole.

tommy1 on May 17, 2007 at 4:47 AM

If this story makes it big time on the MSM, guess who the “victims” will be. Maybe it’s best the MSM just STFU on this story. Otherwise the 5 of them will get a book deal, a TV show and/or a recording contract. Nappy headed ho’s indeed.

Coronagold on May 17, 2007 at 6:27 AM

To those who have not seen this site, it puts a real human face on the problem of crime statistics.

Buck Turgidson on May 17, 2007 at 6:49 AM

I get tired about the whining and crying about the MSM, however you are right. This is a terrible horrible unimaginable cruel and senseless crime, but what is the point?

MM is turning this into what? Politics. That is BS, but still she has a point. What is her agenda, Blacks are animals? Most conservatives think that already don’t they. White college kids are more valuable than blacks. Yep, check again for the conservatives.

I did not hear about FOX news reporting it. Don’t get me wrong this thing is beyond horror and they should all get the death, by torture, the way those kids died. (it makes me ill)

>For one thing, its so horrible its not very palatable. >Also there is no mystery, the “crime” is solved.
>And Yes, what MM said about it not fitting a useful crime profile audiences want to watch are all factors.

I got a little physically sick hearing the details. So may be I am glad it did not get broadcast into my home.

But MM is so angry, not at the criminals but the MSM????????? What POLITCAL usefulness does this serve. BASH THE MSM! Retarded, to accuse the MSM for not reporting it for political reasons while reporting it to make political points. Grow up. Report it and move on. I don’t think hot air would have posted it unless they could have bashed the MSM.

So what can the main stream media DO to make conservatives happy? Report it, make everyone sick and sad? OK, now what.

People want to hear about BS, about Anna and Paris. It’s fluffy & light, not so depressing. So if you want to get mad get mad at what American people want to watch.

gmcjetpilot on May 17, 2007 at 7:08 AM

That is BS, but still she has a point.

gmcjetpilot on May 17, 2007 at 7:08 AM

Yes, but do you?

Jaibones on May 17, 2007 at 8:51 AM

Buck Turgidson on May 17, 2007 at 12:13 AM

Thanks Buck… I’ll look those links over as I have time, looks interesting.

Maxx on May 17, 2007 at 8:58 AM

MM is turning this into what? Politics. That is BS, but still she has a point. What is her agenda, Blacks are animals? Most conservatives think that already don’t they. White college kids are more valuable than blacks. Yep, check again for the conservatives.

gmcjetpilot on May 17, 2007 at 7:08 AM

In my opinion you should be banned for making comments like these. You are way off base and of course you know it.

Maxx on May 17, 2007 at 9:08 AM

Knoxville blacks are celebrating the incident:


Vic on May 17, 2007 at 10:05 AM

The only place I’ve seen this covered in wacademia was this UMaryland Diamondback column— that received an unusually high amount of comment traffic (70).

Terp Mole on May 17, 2007 at 12:59 PM

Michelle DOES NOT turn such incidents into politics. Indeed, if you check out her book UNHINGED, she lists the racist and sexist remarks made to her via e-mail.

Which conservatives say that blacks are animals? I have not heard any say such a thing. I believe it was Senator KKK Byrd who stated that he knows some WHITE N***ERS. The hard core libs/Democrats did not condemn that language as far as I know.


White college kids more valuable than black people? Well, the frameup rape case in North Carolina disproves that situation to the point that the DA WITHHELD INFORMATION that demonstrated their innocence so that he could get the black vote for reelection, and with his public catering to the black community, that demonstrates whom is more valuable than whom, I should think.

Indeed, it is the hardcore libs/Democrats that look down upon blacks by treating them as a political one night stand during election time. Who was it that put on a Southern drawl when addressing black men and women? DEMOCRAT Hillary Clinton. Who made references to the plantation? DEMOCRAT Hillary Clinton. Who made the comment equating black folks in a room during a Republication meeting could only be hired help? A DEMOCRAT.

Which party had a president who appointed black men and women to such high positions like Secretary of State, National Security Advisor, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff? A REPUBLICAN president. Don’t recall any Democrat presidents doing that recently.

The False Dervish on May 17, 2007 at 4:28 PM

Fox news just reported this story.

csdeven on May 18, 2007 at 10:18 AM

Knoxville blacks are celebrating the incident:
Vic on May 17, 2007 at 10:05 AM

From Vic’s link…

These are the kinds of communities we live in all throughout this country,” St. Nicolas Thief said. “These communities are the legacies of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade.

“That whites’ ancestors and the government hasn’t and doesn’t educate whites on how the legacy of slavery has created the impoverished conditions that do continue to influence and trap our people doesn’t mean we have to excuse their ignorance.

“There’s going to be a party in Knoxville and America everytime black poverty speaks and privileged whites suffer.”

This is from one of the black’s leaders. It’s ridiculous how he uses ‘victimhood’ to masks the brutality. Furthermore any young black can use his statements as justification which makes him culpable and an accessory to the crimes committed by his following. In many ways this is no different from imams preaching jihad in their mosques.

docdave on May 20, 2007 at 9:27 AM

MM is turning this into what? Politics.

No. Watch more carefully, and with fewer preconceptions. MM is “turning this” into what it is, a vivid object lesson in the unwillingness of the MSM to report stories that do not align with their belief template. Politics don’t enter into it. NPR aside, the media is not the government.

What is her agenda, Blacks are animals?

No. Her agenda is about the media deciding what our little ears are considered permitted to hear. Surely such self-censorship, such a blatant attempt to manipulate people’s understanding of the world by omitting information, by exactly the people whose job it is to inform, should be a concern across the political spectrum.

Most conservatives think that already don’t they.

No, and that is the most viscious, blind, mendacious slur I’ve ever read here. These blacks are animals, yes. Some whites are animals. A victim mentality protects animals; it probably helps produce them. Are we well-served by hiding any of this?

White college kids are more valuable than blacks.

A truly sick comment. I don’t know what’s going on in your head that produces such twisted garbage, but I hope you’re able to deal with it someday. You are dealing with some bizarre, false caricature of conservatives that bears no relation to reality.

Civilized people are more valuable than the animals that tortured and murdered them. Every time. Race doesn’t affect that at all.

Splunge on May 20, 2007 at 2:35 PM

all i can say is “wow”…. what a terrible story. it’s getting no play here in NE florida either..

jpm5150 on June 6, 2007 at 12:07 PM