The obligatory “Michael Moore challenges Fred! to a debate” post; Update: Fred responds to Moore
posted at 12:12 pm on May 15, 2007 by Allahpundit
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I know we’ve got to post on this but I also know it’s going to degenerate quickly into a “KICK HIS ASS, FRED!” thread. So, fine. Have at it. The fact is, it’s a masterstroke of publicity from a master publicity whore, trading on Fred’s buzz as the conservative messiah to drum up free hype for his new movie. And when Fred declines, as he will, Moore can trumpet it as proof of him knowing that the facts aren’t on his side and declare victory.
I wonder, though — what would Moore do if he was in Fred’s position, invited by someone with nothing to lose to debate on a topic where he himself had plenty to lose? Actually, I don’t need to wonder. Remember what happened when the guy who made “Michael Moore Hates America” tried to wrangle an interview with him?
Some scenes showcase Wilson’s thwarted attempts, sometimes comical, to land an interview with the elusive egalitarian. Indeed, as word got out about Wilson’s work in progress, a TV journalist asks Moore why he won’t talk to Wilson. Moore replies, “I don’t appear in anybody else’s movies but my own.” Wilson then rapidly scrolls a lengthy list of other people’s movies that Moore, yes, appeared in.
How about when lefty filmmakers Rick Caine and Debbie Melnyk tried to snag him for reaction to their critique of his work, “Manufacturing Dissent”?
The pair said they attempted to interview Moore and question him about his editing practices and his views on where the line should be drawn between factual documentary and misleading propaganda.
“We had met him at a premiere of the Columbine film in Toronto, and he said, ‘Oh yes, talk to my people and they’ll set something up’,” said Caine. “We then called his people and they said he’s not doing any more interviews in Toronto. We had his e-mail, we sent a letter to his lawyers, we had his phone number in New York. But each time he said no.”
They did more than that:
The husband-and-wife directors spent over two years making the movie, which follows Moore on his college tour promoting 2004’s “Fahrenheit 9/11.” The film shows Melnyk repeatedly approaching Moore for an interview and being rejected; members of Moore’s team also kick the couple out of the audience at one of his speeches, saying they weren’t allowed to be shooting there.
The hypocrisy game is tedious, but since he wants to play it, there you go.
Exit question: Isn’t he 100% right about Fred smoking cuban cigars, though?
Update: Cute. Click the image to watch.
Update: A reader e-mails to ask whether the “Montecristos from Havana” mentioned in the Weekly Standard article and cited by Moore might actually be Montecristos from the Dominican Republic.
Update: I don’t think it’s that great a response, but it was impressively quick and media savvy: “He turned it around in under two hours, and he did it off the top of his head essentially in one take.”
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Its a good quote but a better one would have been..
Mental institution, Michael. Might be something you outta check into
William Amos on May 15, 2007 at 6:02 PM
I question the timing.
saint kansas on May 15, 2007 at 6:03 PM
Cant velieve well versed and politically saavy as I am cant hook up with a campaign. So if your reading this Fred I can be hired.
/Humility on
William Amos on May 15, 2007 at 6:04 PM
Just re-read this
Single-quotes aroung ‘progressive’ are mine.
This twit thinks highly of himself. Did he think that Fred is Jimmy Carter?
Entelechy on May 15, 2007 at 6:12 PM
That was excellent. Fred! has this new media thing mastered.
CrimsonFisted on May 15, 2007 at 6:16 PM
Insty has this great link to opinions about this.
Including a thought I never considered. But it’s probably true.
Stephen M on May 15, 2007 at 6:18 PM
I also love the “Aw shucks Michael, I don’t have TIME for you. I will be washing my hair that night” attitude.
CrimsonFisted on May 15, 2007 at 6:20 PM
I think Mikey’s had a little too much Canadian Bacon – “Hollywood” and “serious” are mutually exclusive.
Rick on May 15, 2007 at 6:21 PM
@MM:
lolpwn3d~!one!!
Citizen Duck on May 15, 2007 at 6:30 PM
It’s so easy to like Mr. Thompson. I haven’t seen any reason not to support him. This just makes him all the more appealing.
Rose on May 15, 2007 at 6:55 PM
Stephen M, that was a great link. So is this one. Note that Michael Moore doesn’t have Fred’s reply posted on his link.
Entelechy on May 15, 2007 at 7:08 PM
I was wrong – MM has Fred’s response on his site – but look how YouTube has it titles “Presidential Hopeful Fred Thompson Hides Behind His Desk“. No bias here, none whatever.
Entelechy on May 15, 2007 at 7:14 PM
Finally got home to watch it…sweet! Much more sastifying than reading the transcript. Heh heh heh
Bob's Kid on May 15, 2007 at 7:25 PM
It is so refreshing to have somebody who doesn’t cower from these bleeding heart liberals and go around with their tail between their legs like some sort of scolded puppy. The response was great and not a single vulgar 4 letter word like certain liberals who can’t make a complete sentence without using profanity.
Thompson/Bolton in ‘08
LakeRuins on May 15, 2007 at 8:29 PM
The irony is Moore may be helping elect this man. A couple more of these and Fred is in.
right2bright on May 15, 2007 at 8:34 PM
Amen! That’s what gets me excited. I am tired of acting like doormats!
Aren’t you a little depressed you had to even explain that?
I’ll settle for 1 example. Just 1. This shows Fred has fantastic instincts and he’s not going to play by some idiotic “how to run for President” handbook. This was Raganesque. It’s what binds deeply people to a candidate.
Or spin it…
Or like pure depleted uranium piercing the fat phonies armor!
TheBigOldDog on May 15, 2007 at 8:37 PM
Exactly right. Isn’t that beautiful?! That alone is worth the price if admission.
TheBigOldDog on May 15, 2007 at 8:40 PM
Fred has Rush’s insticts about stuff like this. I need to see Fred’s political “statement of faith.”
Mojave Mark on May 15, 2007 at 8:47 PM
Bias hell. It’s wrong-headed, fat-headedness. In the vid Thompson turns away from the serious business at his desk – there is NO barrier between the viewer and Fred!
Master documentarian/editor my ass!
Stephen M on May 15, 2007 at 8:48 PM
Stephen M, just to be clear – I didn’t claim that they were not biased – I was sarcastic about them being so.
Entelechy on May 15, 2007 at 8:58 PM
OOOHHH Buddy you messin wit a big ole dog micheal. You really stepped in it this time boy!
sonnyspats1 on May 15, 2007 at 10:01 PM
Speaking of actors telling the Hoolyweenies to shove it…check out this from Flopping Aces via Ace of Spades:
http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/13/bruce-willis-tells-hollywood-t/
¡Fred!/Bruce ‘08 !!!
FishFearMe on May 15, 2007 at 10:02 PM
FREEEEDDDD!!! Nothin like stickin it to the chubby socialist. Fred 08!
danarchy on May 15, 2007 at 10:44 PM
In case you are serious, once again here’s the site with all the latest and all the background:
http://draftfredthompson.com/index.php?topic=5.0
TBinSTL on May 16, 2007 at 12:54 AM
I think it’s an awesome response by Fred?, the reason it’s so great is precisely because it’s quick and comes across so ‘off the cuff’. Well done Fred !!!
The more I see and read about Fred, the more I like the guy and I liked him a lot the first time I saw him.
Aylios on May 16, 2007 at 6:10 AM
Fred!, my hero! What a wonderful response to a troll such as Moore.
omegaram on May 16, 2007 at 10:20 AM
Micheal is one of the dems bigger tools…he had a prime seat beside Jimmy Carter at the dems 2004 convention…and he’s set his sights on Fred! instead of any of the 10 declared candidates at the debate last night. Fred! easily blew him away…and it shows you who the dems are more worried about…Fred! will chew Hillary up and spit her out…and they know it.
DCJeff on May 16, 2007 at 12:34 PM
Hah! Bravo, Fred!
blogRot on May 16, 2007 at 1:58 PM
Haha! I loved the Fred! clip. I’m starting to like this guy more and more.
Dave Shay on May 16, 2007 at 4:28 PM
Fred! All the way! I am now a supporter.
stonemeister on May 16, 2007 at 4:53 PM
Woooohoooo!
petefrt on May 16, 2007 at 7:29 PM
I’ve been pretty solidly in the Rudy camp, but Fred! could win my heart with stuff like that.
I think it’s precisely the sort of response the likes of Michael Moore rates. You know he’s an attention whore with a movie to sell. Fred! knows this too.
To burst his balloon and turn your back on him is the perfect response.
“I don’t think I have time for you.” I like it.
Pablo on May 16, 2007 at 9:50 PM
Now that’s damned interesting, right there. Bolton would be great as VP. It’s time for balls and being tough as nails.
The times and history fit the men.
I heard someone mention tonight something along the lines of “… when can we just register in the Fred! Party and be done with it?”
Interesting idea…
techno_barbarian on May 18, 2007 at 1:30 AM
The dems have moved on from the hildebeast. They’re behind obama and edwards. They really want obama, but edwards has some serious money behind him.
Just imagine how Fred! will cut either of those two to absolute ribbons on national television, radio, and internet. No place for them to hide, either.
Can’t. Wait.
Announce! Fred! Announce!
I’ll bet, if he’s as smart as we all hope he is, he’ll adopt that Fred! as a brand thing. It’s already gone viral. All he need to is appropriate it in his logos, promos, and print materials. But doing all this on the net is a much smarter, MUCH cheaper, and MUCH MUCH more effective way to go.
End run around the clueless msm straight and unfiltered to the Electorate. Brilliant.
techno_barbarian on May 18, 2007 at 2:12 AM
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