Second Republican debate open thread
posted at 8:36 pm on May 15, 2007 by Ian
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Tune in tonight to the Fox News Channel at 9pm eastern. Like the previous debate, this one will last 90 minutes.
If you’re not a television, Fox News is simulcasting the debate on Fox News Radio.
We’ll have a poll up afterwards asking who won. LGF has a pre-debate straw poll. Stay tuned.
If you’re watching and see something clipworthy, don’t be a stranger.
Update (AP): The Fredheads are on the scene with literature in hand. Geraghty thinks the debate might already be over, with Fred the winner by dint of his video response to Michael Moore. It would be sweet irony if Moore, whoring for buzz for his movie, ended up inadvertently building excitement for the conservative standard bearer in the race.
WaPo expects Rudy to be in the crosshairs tonight given South Carolina’s reputation for social conservatism and Falwell’s death this morning. (Any hosanna for Falwell are likely to come from Mitt, who’s in fifth place in the state, if you can believe it, and will be looking to trumpet his values credentials.) He might get a question about 9/11 planning, too, after a former advisor produced an old memo challenging Rudy’s claim that the advisor had recommended the NYC emergency crisis center be placed in WTC 7. (Another former Giuliani aide came forward today to corroborate Rudy’s account.) The possible X-factor tonight, though, is immigration. Late word is that Republicans and Democrats have reached a compromise that would legalize illegals; neither McCain nor Rudy is going to want to talk about that, but Hotline says Tancredo plans to come out swinging so they might not have a choice. Stay tuned.
Update: The boss is liveblogging it.
Update: Huckabee says Congress has been spending money like John Edwards at a beauty shop:
Update: POLL CLOSED — RESULTS COMING SOON …
Update (BP): We have one or two video hightlights on the way. Here’s Rep. Tancredo looking for Jack Bauer.
If you think he’s kidding, here’s a clip from Laura Ingraham yesterday proving that he’s…not.
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hmmmbetca Abortion will be prominent, and Rudy seems actually well versed on it. I actualyl agree with his views.
Mazztek on May 15, 2007 at 8:38 PM
That’s actually. Can’t type with a bad thumb. Oh.. and… First!
Mazztek on May 15, 2007 at 8:38 PM
Sound byte wars, it’s on.
Mojave Mark on May 15, 2007 at 8:41 PM
You do have 2 thumbs, and all I use either thumb for is the space bar (I do tend to stick with the right thumb).
:-)
steveegg on May 15, 2007 at 8:41 PM
Hardly worth a comment, except to say there’s not a viable candidate in the whole damn bunch.
RedWinged Blackbird on May 15, 2007 at 8:47 PM
where do I vote for Fred! as the winner of the debate?
rslancer14 on May 15, 2007 at 8:54 PM
The Wisconsin Pubbies agree with you, RedWinged. Fred won the convention straw poll over the weekend, “favorite” son Tommy was second, and everybody else was under 16%.
steveegg on May 15, 2007 at 8:55 PM
Here :-)
steveegg on May 15, 2007 at 8:55 PM
Even the lowest republican here (Ron Paul) stands much taller than the best of the democratic candidates.
I dont want to contemplate a Hillary or Edwards or Obama presidency.
William Amos on May 15, 2007 at 8:57 PM
Jeb, our country needs you…
Zorro on May 15, 2007 at 8:57 PM
Fred!heads unite!
lorien1973 on May 15, 2007 at 8:59 PM
hmmmm……Fred/Jeb woulda been a hell of a ticket
Kid from Brooklyn on May 15, 2007 at 9:01 PM
we can’t forget to compare the running of this debate with the prior hardball debate on PMSNBC.
rslancer14 on May 15, 2007 at 9:01 PM
Nice format so far!
I like the stats up at their side!
Fox seems like it will be much more classy than MSN…
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on May 15, 2007 at 9:03 PM
Brit Hume is SOOOOO much better than Chris Mathews!
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on May 15, 2007 at 9:04 PM
Britt Hume… Good choice. I always thought he was scary smart.
And that bell has to go.
Mazztek on May 15, 2007 at 9:05 PM
hmmm…the most important issue today, the world war against Islamic supremecism, and the battle in Iraq is first up. That’s Fox news for ya :-)
rslancer14 on May 15, 2007 at 9:06 PM
Can watch the debate here live on the net. Click on where it says “Watch the debate live”
http://www.foxnews.com/
William Amos on May 15, 2007 at 9:07 PM
All do respect, but only if you want to lose. The Fred part is fine, but I can’t see people rushing to vote for a ticket with “Bush” on it.
amerpundit on May 15, 2007 at 9:07 PM
Brownback needs to be asked about his reasoning for covering for that Governor of Kansas last week.
flyboy777 on May 15, 2007 at 9:07 PM
Thompson = deer in the headlights
RobertCSampson on May 15, 2007 at 9:07 PM
— Yahoo News.
Childish!
Mazztek on May 15, 2007 at 9:08 PM
I see why the democrat party didn’t want a REAL debate with FOXNews. Mitt has the answer right! Too bad many, many people in SC won’t vote for him because he’s a Mormon eventhough he’s with them on most social issues. I am originally from there, and the Pentecostals and the Baptists don’t play the Mormon game.
SouthernGent on May 15, 2007 at 9:09 PM
Ding Ding!
My muffins are done.
Mazztek on May 15, 2007 at 9:11 PM
I am not buying that conservatives will not vote for Mitt. The only criticisms of his religion I ever hear is from the LEFT.
CrimsonFisted on May 15, 2007 at 9:12 PM
Rudy, of course, was dead on regarding the WOT
RobertCSampson on May 15, 2007 at 9:12 PM
conservatives might, but christians are going to think two and three times before they vote for him.
TexasDan on May 15, 2007 at 9:13 PM
Brownbeck – we can win by pulling out. See ya Sam. Loser.
Tancredo – We can’t retreat but we will…. Nice. Loser.
TheBigOldDog on May 15, 2007 at 9:13 PM
I really really want these same questions asked to the democratic cowards who ran away from Fox news.
William Amos on May 15, 2007 at 9:14 PM
I didn’t know Tancredo was in favor of November retreat.
amerpundit on May 15, 2007 at 9:14 PM
lol…question for ron paul. Yes, he is running for the nomination of the wrong party
TexasDan on May 15, 2007 at 9:14 PM
the tanc just Tanked!
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on May 15, 2007 at 9:15 PM
Ron Paul is the first guy to utter Reagan’s name. For shame!
RobertCSampson on May 15, 2007 at 9:15 PM
So, Paul is saying he’ll carry the nomination, of people who are no longer Republicans? Does he understand how this works?
amerpundit on May 15, 2007 at 9:15 PM
I know people who claim that they won’t vote Mitt because of the Mormon religion. They are all moonbat lefty.
CrimsonFisted on May 15, 2007 at 9:15 PM
I wont vote for Ron Paul because of his nutty beliefs that is for sure
William Amos on May 15, 2007 at 9:16 PM
these guys need to learn to play to the camera. they’re talking to the moderator
TexasDan on May 15, 2007 at 9:17 PM
Crimson – that’s pretty funny, because all my Baptist friends who are political said they’d have no problem voting for him even though the Baptist Convention says he’s a cult member.
Laura on May 15, 2007 at 9:17 PM
Layout their credentials? Is he aware that the only position Reagan served, was as a member of the Motion Picture branch?
amerpundit on May 15, 2007 at 9:17 PM
Huckabee, strong candidate.
rslancer14 on May 15, 2007 at 9:17 PM
Round 1 to Romney! Guiliani 2nd, Biggest loser Ron Paul.. but we didn’t need any questions to figure that out..
RobertCSampson on May 15, 2007 at 9:17 PM
Gilmore can’t have an honest discussion with the American people when the media is continually feeding them BS.
Laura on May 15, 2007 at 9:19 PM
I have problems with Mormonism, but sheesh, that doesn’t impact my assessment of Mitt’s abilities as a candidate.
CrimsonFisted on May 15, 2007 at 9:19 PM
FUHGITABOUTIT! They would consider these question “harassment”!!
SouthernGent on May 15, 2007 at 9:20 PM
dang, Mitt’s good.
rslancer14 on May 15, 2007 at 9:20 PM
Romney wins
period
(my wife said he’s sexy)
k2comp on May 15, 2007 at 9:21 PM
I can’t stand McCain because of his free speech restrictions, but I have to applaud him on the budget – he’s right on.
Laura on May 15, 2007 at 9:22 PM
McCain’s drunken sailor story was priceless. It almost made me forget that he forgets what side he is on regularly.
RobertCSampson on May 15, 2007 at 9:22 PM
mc cain…rambling, repeating his talking points verbatim from last time
TexasDan on May 15, 2007 at 9:22 PM
If Fred! wandered on the stage with his stogie, smiled, and walked back out, game over for all these guys.
CrimsonFisted on May 15, 2007 at 9:22 PM
Is anyone keeping count on the number of times McCain has used that quote?
amerpundit on May 15, 2007 at 9:22 PM
John Edwards at a beauty shop!!!!!
CrimsonFisted on May 15, 2007 at 9:23 PM
Quote of the day…
McCain recv’d an e-mail from a man who said, “… As a former drunken sailor, I resent being comapred to Congress…”
Mazztek on May 15, 2007 at 9:23 PM
Boortz must be creaming his pants…FAIR TAX!
LMAO@John Edwars at the beauty store.
SouthernGent on May 15, 2007 at 9:23 PM
Huckabee “Congress that spent money like John Edward’s at a beauty shop” LOL
rslancer14 on May 15, 2007 at 9:23 PM
nice.
RobertCSampson on May 15, 2007 at 9:23 PM
quote of the evening just went by…
TexasDan on May 15, 2007 at 9:23 PM
Drinking game, anyone?
Laura on May 15, 2007 at 9:23 PM
My thoughts too.
CrimsonFisted on May 15, 2007 at 9:24 PM
“Like John Edwards in a beauty shop.”
Good line.
infidel4life on May 15, 2007 at 9:24 PM
Oh snap! Go Mike!
askheaves on May 15, 2007 at 9:24 PM
Who knew Huckabee had a sense of humor?? That’s hilarious!
commonsensehoosier on May 15, 2007 at 9:24 PM
who’s running the reagan counter?
TexasDan on May 15, 2007 at 9:24 PM
I had to step away for a second, what was all that applause for?
forged rite on May 15, 2007 at 9:25 PM
Drill more!!! YESSIR!! (boo hybrid)
CrimsonFisted on May 15, 2007 at 9:25 PM
Mine too. He made her a die hard Republican in a family of Union officials… LOL! needless to say, holidays at my house are a hoot!
TheBigOldDog on May 15, 2007 at 9:25 PM
Zzzz.
Is Fred running yet?
Good Lt on May 15, 2007 at 9:25 PM
I have to say I am ashamed of Brownback.. he sounds like a tool with his LAR – liberal appeasement rhetoric.
RobertCSampson on May 15, 2007 at 9:25 PM
Cut the Dept of Education please.
CrimsonFisted on May 15, 2007 at 9:26 PM
What’s wrong with a freakin hybrid?
SouthernDem on May 15, 2007 at 9:26 PM
Thompson just looks ODD…He’s almost as stiff as senator Webb from Virginia.
SouthernGent on May 15, 2007 at 9:27 PM
“We have a congress that spends money like John Edwards at a beauty shop” – Mike Huckabee during debate
askheaves on May 15, 2007 at 9:27 PM
Okay, Ron Paul said something I agree with. D of Education MUST go!
SouthernGent on May 15, 2007 at 9:28 PM
I like how he says, “the Republicans put in the dept. of Homeland Security,” as if he’s not associated with the party also.
Laura on May 15, 2007 at 9:28 PM
Ron Paul is a pre-911 Republican
TheBigOldDog on May 15, 2007 at 9:29 PM
heh. first coherent statement from ron paul.
TexasDan on May 15, 2007 at 9:29 PM
Ron Paul is a Bircher.
Laura on May 15, 2007 at 9:30 PM
Heh. Thanks, that’s a good one.
forged rite on May 15, 2007 at 9:30 PM
SouthernDem
Felt like lefty pandering for one.
And I don’t think the hybrids have been completely been vetted for true fuel efficiency. Seems to me, throughout this whole global warming kerfuffle, I have read here and there and in other places that hybrids are not all they are cracked up to be. I have no links though. Need more research.
CrimsonFisted on May 15, 2007 at 9:30 PM
RP is good on domestic issues. That’s not his problem. He sucks on international affairs. And he’s a truther. That’s his problem(s).
lorien1973 on May 15, 2007 at 9:30 PM
ain’t that the truth!
rslancer14 on May 15, 2007 at 9:30 PM
Gilmore = too uppity
RobertCSampson on May 15, 2007 at 9:31 PM
If Fred! wandered on the stage with his stogie, smiled, and walked back out, game over for all these guys.
Is there anyone here who doesnt want Fred!? Dear God in Heaven if he doesnt announce soon I’m going to explode.
k2comp on May 15, 2007 at 9:31 PM
Me too. I wanted to hear that from someone else. :(
CrimsonFisted on May 15, 2007 at 9:31 PM
Ducan Hunter – bring back manufacturing. Amen.
TheBigOldDog on May 15, 2007 at 9:32 PM
they need to post the candidates names on the screen. i honestly can’t keep them all straight, the second tier that is.
TexasDan on May 15, 2007 at 9:32 PM
I want to hear one of these guys say “…and I will stop the jizya payments to Egypt and other islamic countries. Google it.”
CrimsonFisted on May 15, 2007 at 9:33 PM
This is so much more informative that the previous debate, but I guess that goes without saying.
rslancer14 on May 15, 2007 at 9:34 PM
Geeze, Defense of the Country as the only role for the feds………gimme a break, what about entitlement programs?
k2comp on May 15, 2007 at 9:34 PM
Who are these nerds?
askheaves on May 15, 2007 at 9:35 PM
OK ok NEW TICKET!
Romney/Hukabee 2008!
WastelandMan on May 15, 2007 at 9:35 PM
who else is watching the online stream? what’s with the peanut gallery during the commercial break?
TexasDan on May 15, 2007 at 9:35 PM
this has to be the intern pool. are these guys even shaving yet? what’s with the huckabee fixation?
TexasDan on May 15, 2007 at 9:36 PM
Huckabee, strong candidate. Certainly a viable veep.
rslancer14 on May 15, 2007 at 9:37 PM
He made a half way decent crack.. apparently thats enough around here..
RobertCSampson on May 15, 2007 at 9:39 PM
rudy, the republicans are uniting. we just don’t think you’re one of us…
TexasDan on May 15, 2007 at 9:40 PM
well it would kill the mormon critisim, and get the fair tax in plus Romney’s good fiscal sense!
sounds like peanut butter in chocolate to me…..
WastelandMan on May 15, 2007 at 9:40 PM
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