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Iraqi MPs already wavering on Sadrist bill demanding timetable for withdrawal

posted at 5:07 pm on May 11, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Very strange. There were 144 MPs onboard yesterday; sounds like there’ll be considerably fewer next week, when they’re hoping to start debate on the bill. Either Sadr’s people lied about the contents to get some of them to sign on or else Maliki and/or Cheney leaned on them to switch their votes because the enthusiasm has very quickly waned.

Several legislators, including those loyal to Maliki, said they doubted that the effort would succeed at a time when Iraqi troops still rely heavily on U.S. firepower. The most prominent political parties in Iraq — such as Maliki’s Dawa party; the Shiite group known as the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq; the Iraqi Islamic Party, a leading Sunni group; and prominent Kurdish factions — appear to oppose setting specific dates for withdrawal. And even if such dates were fixed, it is unclear whether that would compel the United States to obey them.

“I don’t think it’s a good idea,” said Hachim al-Hassani, a secular Sunni from the Iraqi National List and a former speaker of parliament. “Unless we complete building our forces so we are capable of defending the country and bringing security to the country, then we are not ready for something like this. A premature withdrawal could lead to a civil war in Iraq.”

Ali al-Adeeb, a lawmaker from the Dawa party and an aide to Maliki, said any timetable for American withdrawal should be accompanied by a timetable for training and equipping the Iraqi security forces…

There was also some disagreement over the terms of proposed timetable legislation. Kurdish lawmaker Mahmoud Othman told the Associated Press he had agreed to back the measure on the condition that it included an accompanying timeline for the buildup of Iraqi forces, but this was not included in the draft. Othman called the omission a “deception.”

Hassan al-Shimmari, a Shiite who leads the Fadhila Party in parliament, also signed the petition and had similar concerns.

Training the Iraqi army only solves half the problem. ABC News interviewed Iraqi NSA Mowaffaq al-Rubaie about the other half earlier today and got some unusually specific answers. Add this to last night’s list of notable achievements by Pelosi and Rice:

Mowaffak al Rubaie, the national security advisor to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki, told ABC News Thursday that Syria is continuing to harbor and support Islamist militants responsible for killing both Iraqis and Americans.

Al Rubaie, who is in the United States for official meetings in Washington and at the United Nations in New York, said Iraqi officials had presented a detailed intelligence dossier to the Syrian government of insurgent activity on Syrian territory. The information included exact locations of terrorist training camps in Syria and the names, addresses and photographs of insurgent leaders living in Syria.

The Syrians have taken no action on the camps, and on the matter of the insurgents, the response is, “He’s not in Syria,” according to al Rubaie.

Rubaie also claims the Iraqi parliament has cancelled the first month of its summer vacation. This is quoteworthy, too:

Rubaie said he had productive meetings with members of Congress in Washington, but he was concerned some members held “entrenched” views dictated more by domestic U.S. politics than by the “reality on the ground in Iraq.”

I wonder who he has in mind.

Jalal Talabani says they’ll need one more year, or maybe two, before the army will be ready and Iraqis can “say goodbye to our friends.” Meanwhile, Maj. Gen. Mixon says he’s already shorthanded in jihadi HQ, a.k.a. Diyala province, and that while he’s made progress, he won’t be able to “get the security situation moving” until Gen. Odierno gives him more troops. Odierno has promised to do so — just as soon as they become available. Presumably that means letting the Sunnis take over more security in Anbar.

Finally, Condi’s senior advisor, David Satterfield, said today that the U.S. knows Sadr is in Iran. Note: not “thinks.” Knows.


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only a one month vacation now too. behold the power of cheney!

lorien1973 on May 11, 2007 at 5:09 PM

This is what happens when you send “Dead Eye Dick” over there. Sh*t gets done.

amerpundit on May 11, 2007 at 5:12 PM

Finally, Condi’s senior advisor, David Satterfield, said today that the U.S. knows Sadr is in Iran. Note: not “thinks.”

Colonel I know we left here with a daisycutter, I just know we did! Colonel?

Limerick on May 11, 2007 at 5:16 PM

I’m sure the thought of vacation is tempting, especially with Democrats and ‘moderate’ Republicans wanting to cut-and-run and potentially leave them with a bloodbath.

eforhan on May 11, 2007 at 5:17 PM

If Cheney is responsible for a change of heart, then fantastic… but I was having trouble believing the original report anyway. I’m sure these guys know that they are DEAD if we leave.

So, to our friends in Iraq… Good on ya! That vacation will be way more sweet once you’ve done what needs to be done.

tickleddragon on May 11, 2007 at 5:31 PM

Rubaie said he had productive meetings with members of Congress in Washington, but he was concerned some members held “entrenched” views dictated more by domestic U.S. politics than by the “reality on the ground in Iraq.”

That’s a money quote right there!!

tickleddragon on May 11, 2007 at 5:32 PM

Either Sadr’s people lied about the contents to get some of them to sign on or else Maliki and/or Cheney leaned on them to switch their votes because the enthusiasm has very quickly waned.

Or maybe ordinary Iraqis flooded their representative’s offices with calls and letters to do what’s best for all of Iraq.

Well, that’s what needs to happen if Iraq is to succeed as a democracy.

CliffHanger on May 11, 2007 at 5:35 PM

Who can stand against Dick “The Package” Cheney?

TBinSTL on May 11, 2007 at 5:55 PM

In the session with Mr. Levin, Mr. Rubaie stressed that Iraq was involved in a historic process to overcome the long legacy of authoritarian rule, and that the early withdrawal of American troops would lead to chaos.

Mr. Levin, for his part, stuck firmly to his position that the United States should begin a partial troop withdrawal in four months to put pressure on the Iraqi leaders to make the necessary political compromises.

“Clocks are action-forcing mechanisms,” Mr. Levin said in an interview after his conversation with Mr. Rubaie. Mr. Levin said the Iraqi talked of the sweeping changes under way and the need “to educate a generation.”

“I told him that is too long,” Mr. Levin said.
I thought this exchange was worth high-lighting. Is this an indication that Congress full well knows the mission? Their position is pure politics and should be rectified in the next election.

sonnyspats1 on May 11, 2007 at 5:58 PM

Given, Rubaie is a bonafide elected official from an allied country in the war on terror,this is no longer an issue of the Iraq war but of foriegn policy.

sonnyspats1 on May 11, 2007 at 6:04 PM

I bow to those rational folks who seen this for what it was in yesterdays thread.

I’m not worthy!

csdeven on May 11, 2007 at 6:04 PM

Plus: Iraqi NSA identifies jihadi base. Hint: Pelosi was there recently.

Nancy Pelosi’s office?

Lehosh on May 11, 2007 at 6:14 PM

What a difference a day makes. That thread yesterday was a painful read.

“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?….Hell no!”

Buck Turgidson on May 11, 2007 at 6:17 PM

csdeven on May 11, 2007 at 6:04 PM

nonsense…….I have plenty of scars from foot extraction procedures. Have a beer.

Limerick on May 11, 2007 at 6:23 PM

I knew something wasn’t right about this yesterday, so I didn’t comment, we need more time and info on this before we can make rational comments, otherwise we’re just guessing.

Tony737 on May 11, 2007 at 7:40 PM

we need more time and info on this before we can make rational comments, otherwise we’re just guessing.

It wouldn’t hurt us all to be less reactionary.

eforhan on May 11, 2007 at 8:30 PM

Either Sadr’s people lied about the contents to get some of them to sign on or else Maliki and/or Cheney leaned on them to switch their votes because the enthusiasm has very quickly waned.

This was pointed out yesterday by the Kurdish rep just hours after the news came out.

However, at least one influential parliamentarian, Mahmoud Othman, of the Kurdish Coalition, told the AP that he had backed the legislation on the condition that any timetable for US withdrawal be linked to a program for readying Iraqi forces with training and equipment.

“But the sponsors of the legislation did not include our observations in the draft. This is deception,” he said, the AP reports.

Ripclawe on May 11, 2007 at 8:40 PM

U.S. Army boot camp is 9 weeks.

A serious MOS can take a year or so to learn.

How long does it take to train Iraqis in their military to defend their own country?

This farce needs to end soon if this is how serious the Iraqis are about their own survival.

It’s already a year overdue.

Are they just happily looting, with us as the dumb “cover”?

profitsbeard on May 11, 2007 at 11:40 PM

You know, Democracy is messy and occasionally stupid. They have Sadirist MPs, we have Democrats. Neither support the best course for their respective countries.

I was educated by hippies in a public school, so I have long thought that colonialism and imperialism were bad. But I’m beginning to think that a straightforward American puppet regime in Iraq would be better than the current confederacy of dunces — as long as we can find a better proconsul than Bremer.

Proconsul Cheney — sounds good, right?

Anton on May 11, 2007 at 11:42 PM

he was concerned some members held “entrenched” views dictated more by domestic U.S. politics than by the “reality on the ground in Iraq.”

Since when has reality dictated American politics?

Mojave Mark on May 12, 2007 at 1:32 AM

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