My 8 year old grandson was near my computer when I was watching the video of that woman being dragged off screaming not too long ago. He asked what was going on and I told him. Even he recognized that this issue is stupid and said so. Stupid in that dragging women off for improper dress is 7th century thinking and has no place in in the 21st. (My words, not his. He said STUPID!)

CrimsonFisted on May 10, 2007 at 8:51 AM

I hope the Hollywood ‘Sin and Skin’ crowd watches this little bit of Islamic theatre.

DoctorDentons on May 10, 2007 at 8:52 AM

Oddly enough, they’re more like the Democrats than you’d guess at first blush (not that either Dems or Islamofascists blush all that much).

Both groups are so persuaded that they’re correct that they need not give any consideration to any other view. The other side is simply demonized as outside “social norms.” After all– no need to debate somebody who is outside social norms.

morganfrost on May 10, 2007 at 9:03 AM

Uncovered meat?

csdeven on May 10, 2007 at 9:14 AM

Yeah, this is wrong. No Question. But our culture is not without it’s own misogyny and denigration of women. Only here they hand you a grammy instead of stuffing you in a police car. They lack rights. We lack responsibility. Theirs in the name of gov’t control. Ours in the name of riches. Both hurt our societies.

Buck Turgidson on May 10, 2007 at 9:21 AM

All I can say is that when you have this much power over any group of people, there has to be a huge backlash and underground growing at a fast clip.

bloggless on May 10, 2007 at 9:38 AM

Why on earth you would post this is beyond me.

kmcguire on May 10, 2007 at 9:38 AM

Well, one example would be the Akon backlash. I hardly consider my view a radical one. If you do, it’s your right to say so.

Buck Turgidson on May 10, 2007 at 9:45 AM

And these are the people that the libs think are reasonable enough to deal with on nuclear power?

- The Cat

MirCat on May 10, 2007 at 9:58 AM

When Condi shows up in her Darth Vader with stiletto heels outfit, will that put a damper on negotiations?

fogw on May 10, 2007 at 10:05 AM

where I live, seeing a woman in a headscarf or a burka is very uncommon - but last week in the grocery store we saw a woman and her daughter in full islamic garb. My daughter said, “Momma! WHY is that woman wearing that big black dress? Isn’t she hot?” I told her like it is: “that Islam is a repressive religion and unfortunately, muslim women don’t have as many rights as we do. Aren’t you glad we live in a society where girls can go to school, wear what they want and have the rights we do?” She then said, “Do the BOYS have to wear those things?” told her, “No, Islam values men more than women.” Needless to say, she was stunned.
I said all this very loudly, not caring. Several
other people in the produce department heard me and shook their heads in agreement.

Wouldn’t it be nice if all those liberals who SAY they are for women’s rights put their money where their mouths are?

pullingmyhairout on May 10, 2007 at 10:15 AM

Glad to see they’re focusing on the truly important things like harassing and abusing women who aren’t covered up properly and not frivolous sh*t like building a functioning economy.

Bad Candy on May 10, 2007 at 10:40 AM

I’m going to step out of line here and compare accosting someone for those clothes to many people here insisting that police in this country should arrest illegal immigrants, simply based on whether someone was born north or south of the Rio Grande, regardless of how hard they might have been working for the past, say, 40 years, and regardless of whether they have been scrupulous in paying their taxes. Sure they are violating the law, but so are the women not wearing the clothes they are supposed to. Those women value something more important than obeying that law, as do the parents of impoverished children do when they come here without a visa to feed themselves and their children.

pedestrian on May 10, 2007 at 11:48 AM

Wouldn’t it be nice if all those liberals who SAY they are for women’s rights put their money where their mouths are?

pullingmyhairout on May 10, 2007 at 10:15 AM

My first (and only) conversation with a veiled woman ocurred fifteen years ago at the Morocco pavillion at Epcot Center in Florida. It was a blisteringly hot August day. I politely asked a Moroccan “greeter” if she was hot or if the garment actually kept her cool by keeping the sun off. What I got was a lecture about how Moroccan women wear the hajib to honor their culture and their religion. It was really funny — she had the same deadly-serious and self-righteous tone of your typical university-campus feminist. So I’m not surprised that the NAGs are silent on the hijab — they recognize a bit of themselves in some of the radical Islamic women.

Another memory: we had a number of “Persians” at my elite Northeastern university. As I recall, most of them had fled Iran during the fall of the Shah and settled in Canada. They always referred to themselves as Persians, never Iranian. None of them seemed overtly religious. Most of them were male, but there were four or five women as well. These women were earnest intellectuals with the fashion sense that you would expect from same. They were all beautiful and desirable, almost in spite of their intentions.

Even as a mostly non-political 19-year-old, I would look at these women, and remember that they had fled the Ayatollah and his burka-clad revolutionaries. I couldn’t help but disrespect the kind of man who would want to cover up such women. I’ve had a dim view of fundamentalist Islamic masculinity ever since — and this was well before they ever seemed like a terrorist threat.

Anton on May 10, 2007 at 11:59 AM

Gosh, now I want to hire a small child to go around with me just so when we come in contact with burqa-clad women, the kid can ask me why they wear burqas!!

Well played, PullingMyHairOut!

I find burqas suspicious…like people walking around with ski masks on. Outlaw them, so that, if they don’t like it, they don’t come here. We really should be safe-guarding our culture, rather than bowing to theirs.

Discrimination? You betcha! But I discriminate against others too….I don’t allow criminals/drug addicts/thieves/rapists/murderers in my house.

tickleddragon on May 10, 2007 at 12:56 PM

Calling honora, Nonfactor, gmcjetpilot and JaHerer22, who are mostly conspicuously missing on these types of threads. Please explain your side on the deafening silence on what ought to be one of your main fights.

The thought of a “dress police” is ridiculous in and by itself, and needs international media ridiculing. Where are these do-gooders?

In com*unism the male police slit our mini-skirts in the street, with many people around, preferrably at bus stations, then sending us home like that. It was a badge of honor, every time, so long as we kept our mouths shut. Otherwise, we’d have ended up in a dark place.

No woman there, however, would have contemplated on lecturing another, not even the com*ie bitc*es. They loved/enjoyed everything Western.

Entelechy on May 10, 2007 at 2:17 PM

In this society where the mantra is “A Woman Has The Right To Choose” which I whole heartily agree. Acceptable behavior and dress goes alongside the outrageous and bizarro without question, well to a degree and without fashion police enforcement. Although, I can’t fathom Mr. Blackwell’s Worst Dressed for the life of me.

But you notice it’s the clerics enforcing this *culture* with the motherly advice and police in proximity to confront the young women.

I wouldn’t be surprised arrests and stoning will be far behind. With more Muslim immigrants coming to this country and demanding their cultural left behinds to be enforced here, how long will it be before we see this here?

Kini on May 10, 2007 at 2:57 PM

Video #2 is the reason the cops are off to the side in video #1.

Krydor on May 10, 2007 at 4:09 PM

With more Muslim immigrants coming to this country and demanding their cultural left behinds to be enforced here, how long will it be before we see this here?

Kini on May 10, 2007 at 2:57 PM

It’s not too far behind. The big mosque on I-7 near Cincinnati sent people out to the muslims living here telling them it was time for them to go back to acting like true muslims. I personally knew someone who got the knock at the door, she used to be happy and would tell her husband “Get it yourself, we live in America now.” But sence then she’s wearing her full burka.

- The Cat

MirCat on May 10, 2007 at 4:22 PM

Good Greif could this story be any mroe stupid ? Its liek they want to report some kind of Jewish attrocity but their programing on abortion prevents it

It took about 30 minutes for an ambulance to arrive because soldiers held it up, her husband said. The army was looking into the claim, but noted that it routinely bars vehicles from entering battle zones and said the Israeli forces immediately left the area after the shootout.

William Amos on May 10, 2007 at 4:25 PM

I loved the uncovered meat beating down the Dress Code Nazi.

The Monster on May 10, 2007 at 5:07 PM

I can’t think of anything a government could do to thoroughly piss its women off more than have fashion nazis roaming the streets lecturing them that they look like Western whores or actually arresting them for showing their hair. Those are gonna be some scalded cat mad women who will just absolutely never forget. Never, never, never.

And didja notice how when one woman got pulled over one or two other women stepped up to her side as backup?

Heck, those Iranian mullahs are working overtime to foment a revolution against themselves. The only thing left for us to do to push this to the tipping point is ship the Persian women the latest fashion magazines and some guns.

Tantor on May 10, 2007 at 5:14 PM

Too bad they didn’t pixilate her face… she’s going to end up going for a ride on the bus.

SilverStar830 on May 10, 2007 at 5:32 PM

I’m reading a great book right now (“Lipstick Jihad”) and a passage from it had me had me guffawing rudely in the Dr.’s waiting room yesterday:

…The clerics’ hatred for miniature poodles, which they considered bourgeois lapdogs, was one of the ridiculous things about Iran. An aghast ayatollah in the provincial city of Orumieh had even devoted a portion of his Friday sermon to condemning canines. :Happy are those who becamse martyrs and did not witness the playing with dogs!” he had bellowed, refering to those killed in the war with Iraq, who had luckily been spared the lapdog trend.

…Iraninans felt a harsh contempt for the clerics, who had taken over an oil-rich country in the name of Islam, sunk its economy, and now spent their days railing against poodles…

Insert ‘covered cat-meat’ and it’s still the same.

tree hugging sister on May 10, 2007 at 5:41 PM

lovely to see the young lady giving that old harpy a few good shoves and kicks. That’s the right spirit. I just hope she doesn’t get stoned for it.

Aylios on May 10, 2007 at 6:09 PM

I’m going to step out of line here and compare accosting someone for those clothes to many people here insisting that police in this country should arrest illegal immigrants,

Yeah, because not covering your head properly is a crime about as comparable to sneaking into another country illegally, obtaining fake identification, stealing somebody else’s social security number, and not paying your taxes to boot. Sheesh.

simply based on whether someone was born north or south of the Rio Grande, regardless of how hard they might have been working for the past, say, 40 years, and regardless of whether they have been scrupulous in paying their taxes.

And regardless of whether they been sending their children to our schools at taxpayer expense, leeching off government programs, engaging in frivolous lawsuits for tripping and falling (an illegal immigrant favorite, right there), driving while intoxicated, driving uninsured, having gangbanger kids, ad infinitum. Here is a hint: the crime isn’t what side of the Rio Grande they were born on. It is what they did to get to the other side and what they’ve done since to stay on that side and what they may have done to others while staying on that side.

tommy1 on May 10, 2007 at 6:34 PM

I’m going to step out of line here and compare accosting someone for those clothes to many people here insisting that police in this country should arrest illegal immigrants, simply based on whether someone was born north or south of the Rio Grande, regardless of how hard they might have been working for the past, say, 40 years, and regardless of whether they have been scrupulous in paying their taxes. Sure they are violating the law, but so are the women not wearing the clothes they are supposed to. Those women value something more important than obeying that law, as do the parents of impoverished children do when they come here without a visa to feed themselves and their children.

pedestrian on May 10, 2007 at 11:48 AM

There are no words to fully encompass and augment how horribly, horribly wrong your statement is.

People who wish to come to this country have a legal means to do so through our Homeland Security department. It is long, and it is difficult, as anything worth having is. However, there is a legal means for someone to move from their country to ours and to legally enjoy the fruits that their hard work in this nation provides them.

However, under Iran’s bass-ackward sharia douchebaggery, women are not allowed any legal means to dress the way they desire. They are trapped by barbaric customs designed by imbeciles to prevent any possible hint of equality of gender in order to foster their own artificial superiority.

If a man applies for a work visa, comes to this country, learns the predominant language, pays his taxes, swears an oath of allegiance, he is an American. It matters not what he does for a living or where he originally came from…if he follows the law, he is equal to you, me, all other citizens of our country and is afforded the same rights and privileges that that citizenship provides. A woman in Iran WILL NEVER be equal to a man in that same country, even if she was born there.

So, pedestrian, I hope you can now fathom the monumental idiocy that your statement presents.

fusionaddict on May 10, 2007 at 6:41 PM

People who wish to come to this country have a legal means to do so through our Homeland Security department. It is long, and it is difficult, as anything worth having is. However, there is a legal means for someone to move from their country to ours and to legally enjoy the fruits that their hard work in this nation provides them.

Each year there is a day where they start accepting applications for green cards for the coming year. Every year the quota is exceeded by far on the very first day. To say that there is a legal way is to ignore the fact that if you don’t hit the lottery it’s not going to happen. If I was not fortunate enough to be born here or to hit that lottery I can’t say I wouldn’t succumb to the temptation to move here illegally for the sake of my children’s future. My reaction to being accosted for breaking that law wouldn’t be so different from the wonderfully courageous woman in the second video.

I’m just struck by the inconsistency of being full bore for the rights of the unborn without also recognizing the that people born in another country do not have any fewer rights in the eyes of God. There are certainly legitimate concerns among terrorist and other criminals immigrating, but the overall sense I get about the immigration debate is that it is more about job preferences for people who are fortunate enough to have a vote, which is what I am comparing to the subjugation of muslim women. Solving the problem of criminals immigrating is better solved by making it less likely for people to want to immigrate illegally so that the ones who should be stopped become more visible. People who would object to that would object on the grounds of job preferences, which as I said is against equal treatment of all people.

pedestrian on May 10, 2007 at 7:33 PM

Pedestrian
AGAIN WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND????

ChrisIansNana on May 10, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Pedestrian needs to start walking a bit faster. He/she is really, really slow right now.

Doghouse on May 10, 2007 at 8:57 PM

OK pedestrian…chew on this.

This is from an INS/FBI joint research report for the 1st quarter of 2006:

2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants

CRIME STATISTICS 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.

86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.

75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.

24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally

40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally

48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally

29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually

53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.

50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.

71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or “transport coyotes”.

47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.

63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens

66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66% 98% are illegal aliens.

BIRTH STATISTICS 380,000 plus “anchor babies” were born in the U.S. in 2005 to illegal alien parents, making 380,000 babies automatically U.S.citizens.

97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid by the American taxpayers.

66% plus of all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

How DARE you compare murderers, drug smugglers and thieves to oppressed women and the unborn.

Yes. Every man, woman and child on this planet has certain God-given rights. BUT NOT AMERICAN-GIVEN ONES.

If you were not born here AND under US jurisdiction (that’s right, anchor-babies are NOT US citizens!) then you have no right to be here. So there’s a limited number of immigrants we take in each year…well, tough sh*t. Have you ever fathomed, in that black hole between your ears, that there might be a REASON for that??? When the US experienced mass immigration in the 1930s and 40s, there was mass poverty, disease, unemployment and homelessness because there weren’t enough jobs to go around. As it is, the illegals that jump our borders leech off our public resources like tapeworms — economic systems that can barely sustain our citizens as is. These same people are largely the reason why their own countries suck…why should they simply be allowed to ruin ours, too?

You need to understand this: just because someone works hard is no excuse for breaking a law that was instituted specifically to protect our national security, public safety, and sovereignty. A law requiring burqas does none of these…it merely serves to subjugate.

You know how every libtard like yourself talks about how illegals “do the jobs Americans won’t do”? Well, you know who used to do those jobs? TEENAGERS. That’s right…your average high schooler used to wash dishes, clean houses, babysit, pick fruits & vegetables, fix cars, mow grass, deliver papers, etc. up until the “free love” period hit. Illegals don’t do the jobs Americans won’t do…they do the jobs American parents are to pussified to tell their kids to go out and do.

Do you have any idea how stupid you sound when you compare border-jumpers with Muslim women? No illegal alien was ever stoned or whipped for being in a room with a man who was not a relative. No illegal alien has been forced to wear a long black robe in the middle of a burning desert. No illegal alien has ever been beheaded simply for falling in love with someone of the wrong religion. The worst your average illegal has to worry about is the inconvenience of our catch-and-release program, which means he’ll have to use that stolen social security number to open up a cell phone account tomorrow instead of today.

You need to take a look outside at the real world, a world where there is a battle ensuing for the right for civilization to exist on this planet. A fight that takes place outside the confines of your college campus. Grow up.

fusionaddict on May 10, 2007 at 11:42 PM

Good for the gal in the 2nd clip to kick that woman’s ass. That crap is a terrible horrible suppression of women. A few people posting in this thread are just too dumb with their thoughts on this subject. Maybe you should be repressed, pedestrian and buck turd.

Highrise on May 11, 2007 at 1:22 AM

fusionaddict, THANK YOU for posting those statistics! I’ve saved a copy for myself as well as emailed them to some friends.

DavePa on May 11, 2007 at 10:23 AM