Sad: Gitmo detainees snub their suspiciously “gay” and/or “Jewish” lawyers

posted at 10:45 am on May 5, 2007 by see-dubya

Y’all know by now I just won’t shut up about the double standard among big law firms: they rush to render aid–much of it pro-bono, some of it underwritten by Middle Eastern governments–to detainees in Gitmo, and brag about it on their firms’ websites. But defending American troops who need a hand isn’t such a priority for them.*

So it was with just a splash of schadenfreude that I found a piece in the NYT about the frustrations some of those lawyers are experiencing working with Gitmo detainees. Apparently, the bloodthirsty militant head-choppers are not especially grateful for the pro bono help.

The situation is awkward for the lawyers, who have become a considerable force not only in the courts but also in legislative, diplomatic and public debates about detention policies. Tense relationships or outright resistance from their clients could undercut their credibility and complicate their legal work.

Tragic. No, really, tragic in the dramatic sense, not just in the ironic sense. The inherent evil flaws of the inmates prevent them from understanding and grasping the lifeline the lawyers are throwing to them:

Mr. Stafford Smith also said several of his clients had described what he said were efforts by Guantánamo officials to foster detainees’ distrust of the lawyers. He said detainees had described investigators’ telling them that their lawyers were Jewish or gay or that prisoners with lawyers were less likely to be released than those without them.

Hmm…well, why would the bolded part be a problem at all? Is it because the clients are devotees of a jihad that hates Jews and homosexuals and considers them subhuman filth ripe for extermination? Oh well, I guess it’s a thankless job, although you do get your name in the New York Times. Especially when you try to practice random acts of kindness toward your clients, but the mean old guards stop you:

Mr. Remes, the Washington lawyer for the 17 Yemenis, said military officials had barred lawyers from giving detainees rudimentary reading materials, including a Dr. Seuss book and “Jack and the Beanstalk.” Commander Haupt said lawyers were permitted to provide “properly cleared” reading material to the detention camp library.

I guess Mr. Remes’ clients will have to improvise their own Dr. Seuss, then:

I would not, could not, with a Jew
I would not, could not, with gays too
I would not, could not, in my cell
I do not trust you; go to hell.
You run to defend Jihadi hate,
Yet fight to sever church and state?
You don’t like “under God“, it seems
And I do not like you, Mr. Remes!

_____________________________

In related news, Spc. Mario Lozano, facing absentee murder charges in Italy for shooting at a speeding car that refused to stop as it barreled toward his checkpoint in Iraq, has managed to put together a legal team and even gotten a break on the price. He is not, however, being represented pro bono at that trial like the Al Qaeda thugs in Gitmo. He could use a little help with the legal fees–especially since Italian pro-terrorist commie reporter Giuliana Sgrena has added a civil complaint to the murder charge.

There are a lot of worthy opportunities mentioned in the blogosphere to send along a little cash and really do some good–here’s one featuring Mary Katharine Ham and some cute girls–so it’s difficult to know where to help out.

For what it’s worth I actually went in for a ten-spot toward Spc. Lozano’s defense, because not only is this a way to defend a soldier who put his life on the line for me, it’s also the neatest way I’ve found to tell Giuliana Sgrena where to get off. Pass the word on.

(Because won’t it be a great day when soldiers have all the free lawyers they need, and the terrorists have to hold a bake sale?)

*Necessary disclaimer:

I don’t necessarily begrudge any individual lawyer’s decision to do pro bono work with the Gitmo detainees. What dismays me is, in the aggregate, the rush of so many of our “best and brightest” lawyers from so many top firms to defend monsters like Khaled Sheikh Mohammed.

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You run to defend Jihadi hate,
Yet fight to sever church and state?

Especially after all the green eggs and ham I just ate?

Oh wait I forgot… our detainees are catered to hand and hoof, ditto with their ditto w/their dietary needs. No chance of that whatsoever…

RD on May 5, 2007 at 11:10 AM

GOOD! Let ALL of their lawyers be menstrating black Jewish lesbians.

WHY do these enemy combatants get lawyers? They didn’t rob a freakin’ bank!

Tony737 on May 5, 2007 at 11:21 AM

I would not, could not, with a Jew
I would not, could not, with gays too
I would not, could not, in my cell
I do not trust you; go to hell.
You run to defend Jihadi hate,
Yet fight to sever church and state?
You don’t like “under God“, it seems
And I do not like you, Mr. Remes!

Priceless, See-Dub. Just priceless.

BacaDog on May 5, 2007 at 11:26 AM

Because won’t it be a great day when soldiers have all the free lawyers they need, and the terrorists have to hold a bake sale?

This would be a good day indeed!!

Do you know how many cookies or cupcakes the jihadis would have to sell in order to buy a high-priced NY, or CA Lawyer? A LOT!!

Troy Rasmussen on May 5, 2007 at 11:26 AM

I say just release them. Put a walkway to the beach, a little sign pointing to Mecca, and tell them it will probably be quicker to swim but floating might work. The lawyers can be waiting for them when they get there. The VRWC can use the net to GPS track-em across and bet on which makes it first. Yeah yeah yeah….I’m in a onery mood this morning….damn chore list anyway.

Limerick on May 5, 2007 at 11:29 AM

I think I see a plan emerging here. First, convince all the jihadis that their lawyers are Jews and gays. Then, serve steak for dinner and ‘forget’ to collect the steak knives. Oila! A bunch of headless lawyers and plenty of evidence against the jihadis. I like it.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 5, 2007 at 11:35 AM

maybe to make it better for those terrorists, we should take those jewish and gay lawyers and turn them into the interrogators ;)

Defector01 on May 5, 2007 at 11:58 AM

Now if we could just get Ried to read Green Eggs and Hamm(nation)

- The Cat

MirCat on May 5, 2007 at 12:01 PM

Quite impressed “C-dub Seuss” …

I’ll throw in a ten-spot for an American soldier. I’d like to throw in a 50cal spot for our enemies.

As for gitmo, all these lawyers are practicing to be politicians, see.
They don’t give a damn about anything but their own 15 + minutes.
They let evil men and women kill hordes of innocents as long as they get some ink time, and they hide behind the very law that provides them work. CAIR learned from them.

shooter on May 5, 2007 at 12:01 PM

Well, one thing for sure, those “detainees” sure do have their priorities straight, don’t they? Principled, that’s what they are.

Good for a chuckle at the very least.

Bob's Kid on May 5, 2007 at 12:05 PM

I’m getting more outraged the more I think about this.

(Because won’t it be a great day when soldiers have all the free lawyers they need, and the terrorists have to hold a bake sale?)


How can we let this happen?

Imagine if it were you brought up on charges in another country, for doing your job, yet having to beg for funds for legal fees….. all the while knowing terrorists were getting free help ….from Americans.
What nightmare is this?

shooter on May 5, 2007 at 12:11 PM

Love the Dr. Suess! Here’s a jihadist’s poem:

Roses are red
Violets are blue
As soon as you get me out of here
I’ll kill you too

Mojave Mark on May 5, 2007 at 12:14 PM

I’ve got an idea. We send our terrorist detainees to Mexican jails. They don’t seem to want to be in American jails, so let them try living there for say, oh, a month. Let’s see how willing they are to come back to Gitmo.

amerpundit on May 5, 2007 at 12:21 PM

Thanks for this! Steam is coming out of my ears right now.

I just sent in a convenient Pay Pal donation to Lozano’s defense.

I LOVE the Dr. Suess, and appreciate the link to Debra Burlingame’s WSJ op-ed about the shocking P.R. campaign launched in the defense of a barbaric and ruthless enemy by American law firms and the Kuwaiti Government – an expose’ which puts that New York Times sob story in much-needed perspective.

Buy Danish on May 5, 2007 at 12:25 PM

I would not, could not, with a Jew
I would not, could not, with gays too
I would not, could not, in my cell
I do not trust you; go to hell.
You run to defend Jihadi hate,
Yet fight to sever church and state?
You don’t like “under God“, it seems
And I do not like you, Mr. Remes

Priceless, See-Dub. Just priceless.
BacaDog on May 5, 2007 at 11:26 AM

A huge ditto here SeeDub and I would add a literay internet classic worthy of Emmy status.

auspatriotman on May 5, 2007 at 12:39 PM

So they hate Jews and Homosexuals….

Thank God they love Christians!

/sarcasm

Tim Burton on May 5, 2007 at 12:40 PM

He said detainees had described investigators’ telling them that their lawyers were Jewish or gay or that prisoners with lawyers were less likely to be released than those without them.

That tactic is right out of the Al Qaeda handbook.

Not that post modern university educated lawyers would understand…

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The Machine on May 5, 2007 at 12:44 PM

Oh thats rich! I mean don’t these guy’s have degrees? I guess they don’t have the street smarts to realize one mans passion is another mans pain!

sonnyspats1 on May 5, 2007 at 12:57 PM

I think it was when news that “Castro was gravely ill” began to circulate and someone tied those reports to the Monty Python skit, “This parrot’s dead.”, that I started laughing at the left.

They have become so nonsensical that they have become literally a self parody. This NYT story is another, as is this note at American Thinker, “Zimbabwe set to head UN committee on sustainable development”.

The left is doing these things in all seriousness with great piety, not realizing just how deluded they really have become. Throw in the news that Chavez is withdrawing from the world bank, and taking over Venezuela’s banks, Royal’s lament that a conservative election victory in France would mean violence in the streets, and you just have to cheer, “GO FER IT”!

Meanwhile, I’ve got wood to cut.

rockhauler on May 5, 2007 at 1:44 PM

I’m surprised the detainees haven’t figured out that a Jewish lawyer is a win-win situation for them. If the Jew lawyer gets them out of jail, great, let the jihad against Zionists and Crusaders continue. If the Jew lawyer doesn’t get them off, they get a big propaganda victory when they claim THE JEWS deliberately screwed up their defense in order to keep them in the Gitmo Gulag.

Lehuster on May 5, 2007 at 2:15 PM

That Seuss thing is brilliant See-Dub, you ever thought about writing a Halal version of the Seuss classics? Man, you could make a mint!

Aylios on May 5, 2007 at 3:07 PM

Thanks Democrats. Zawahiri just called for the deaths of 200,000 to 300,000 troops in Iraq. He is EMBOLDEND by your withdrawl talks.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3143623&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

New Tape: Al Qaeda No. 2 Wants 200,000-300,000 U.S. Dead in Iraq

Ayman al-Zawahiri Says Al Qaeda Wants to Spill More U.S. Blood Before America Withdraws

a new video posted today on the Internet, al Qaeda’s number two man, Ayman al Zawahiri, mocks the bill passed by Congress setting a timetable for the pullout of U.S. troops in Iraq

Continuing in the same tone, Zawahiri says, “We ask Allah that they only get out of it after losing 200,000 to 300,000 killed, in order that we give the spillers of blood in Washington and Europe an unforgettable lesson.”

Based on the references to the bill, the tape, produced by al Qaeda’s propaganda arm, as-Sahab, appears to have been made after Congress passed the legislation last week but before President Bush vetoed in on Thursday.

According to Laura Mansfield, a counter terrorism analyst with Strategic Translations, an organization that monitors al Qaeda postings, the tape was posted on the Internet this morning and covers the usual range of Zawahri’s topics including Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine.

There has been a flurry of audio and video releases featuring Zawahiri, although no new communication from Osama bin Laden since mid-2006.

William Amos on May 5, 2007 at 3:17 PM

What the hell is this: FoxNews…..US to give asylum to ‘terrorists’???…..Here come the relativists…..this kinda ‘logic’ gets Anbar warlords fighting AQ branded as ‘terrorists’, anti-Castro fighters are terrorists????…..

Twilight zone indeed. Moral equivalents my redneck fanny.

seething here……flat red-faced seething

Limerick on May 5, 2007 at 4:12 PM

Heady times we live in Limerick. Heady. Times…..

BacaDog on May 5, 2007 at 4:37 PM

Just added my $10 for Sgt. Lozano – thanks for the link

woodie4827 on May 5, 2007 at 5:22 PM

Sad: Telling: Gitmo detainees snub their suspiciously “gay” and/or “Jewish” lawyers

Lawrence on May 5, 2007 at 6:53 PM

I hope when the catch Zawahiri, they slowly garrote him and put the video on Youtube.

As for the terrorists at Club Gitmo, boo feakin’ hoo!

My solution to this problem of “detainees” has always included a bullet in the head and a bodybag flight home, because THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO WERE MAKING WAR UPON AMERICA, were caught in the act of doing so, and who are doing so while ignoring the “laws of war.” BTW, the “innocent” have already been released and sent home by now. By definition, the way they “make war” is a war crime in itself. America has given them POW status and that is a serious mistake!

As for their leftwing, ACLU paid, America-hating, cartooney ambulance chasers, they can take the place of the newly-departed in the newly-vacant cells for committing treason.

georgej on May 5, 2007 at 7:13 PM

Elvis. Nice touch.

As for parasites lawyers, common sense & patriotism, in the aggregate, have left the building.

locomotivebreath1901 on May 5, 2007 at 8:14 PM

“As for their leftwing, ACLU paid, America-hating, cartooney ambulance chasers, they can take the place of the newly-departed in the newly-vacant cells for committing treason.”

georgej on May 5, 2007 at 7:13 PM

The Machine likes the way that georgej thinks.

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The Machine on May 5, 2007 at 8:21 PM

Loco–Terry Stafford, actually. At least his was the version I was listening to when I thought of that.

see-dubya on May 5, 2007 at 8:23 PM

I used to work for Shearman & Sterling, the law firm mentioned in the Wall Street Journal article. I was probably the only conservative in the entire firm. The firm required us to do pro-bono, and when I was doing it with another lawyer I learned that he was representing the detainees down at Gitmo. They thought it was so great to be representing the terrorists, like they were Rebels without a cause or something. God, what idiots.

You have no idea how American society is systematically being destroyed from within on the heels of the most intelligent and highest paid citizens. Thankfully, I left Shearman & Sterling early last year to go to a better firm. When the news broke about them being terror-coddling lawyers, everyone at the new firm couldn’t believe it.

New York City elite law firms are liberal, and my new firm is no different. But Shearman is batsh*t crazy liberal. I’m glad I left.

Sydney Carton on May 5, 2007 at 9:17 PM

One other thing about Shearman & Sterling. I had a friend in the property group while I worked there. That group was a pioneer in developing Islamic shaira-compatible property loans so that Saudi-arabian shieks could buy up all these mini-malls across America. A ton of mini-malls are owned by the Saudis, and other Islamic groups, through holding companies, etc. At first, when I heard of this, it didn’t hit me what they were doing because they pronounced shaira strangely. But once I heard about the Saudi angle, I couldn’t believe what the property group was doing. Sheesh.

Thank GOD I work in mutual funds…

Sydney Carton on May 5, 2007 at 9:22 PM

Ditto on the awesome Seussmanship!

That Seuss thing is brilliant See-Dub, you ever thought about writing a Halal version of the Seuss classics? Man, you could make a mint!

Aylios on May 5, 2007 at 3:07 PM

What, like Green Eggs and Lamb?

I do not like them, Sami al-Ariam

Or perhaps something that rhymes with ‘falafel’?

RD on May 6, 2007 at 12:30 AM

Sad: Gitmo detainees snub their suspiciously “gay” and/or “Jewish” lawyers

It seems bad for the detainees to snub their seemingly gay and Jewish lawyers, and therefore good that they do so. It seems it would be worse for them to snub all their lawyers, and therefore better if they will do so. In the meantime, I’m glad, not sad; at least the glass is half full.

Kralizec on May 6, 2007 at 10:47 PM

just a splash of schadenfreude

There’s still some left, see-dubya. Would you like to split it with me?

Kralizec on May 6, 2007 at 10:56 PM