Results: Hot Air readers think Romney won debate
posted at 8:44 pm on May 4, 2007 by Ian
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And it’s not just our poll. Romney also won Drudge’s poll.
Glenn Reynolds has a poll asking: “Did last night’s debate change your assessment of the Republicans’ chances in 2008?”
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Mitt Romney already has my vote. Forget Rudy. Forget McCain . I wouldn’t mind seeing a Romney/ Giuliani ticket.
calirighty on May 4, 2007 at 8:56 PM
Fred! won the debate -and- slept with all their wives; and he wasn’t even in the same state!
lorien1973 on May 4, 2007 at 9:00 PM
It is a long long way to SuperTuesday. Romney did great, but other then Paul and T-Thompson everyone is still a player. The poll pwnd Tancredo but I didn’t think he did that badly. As far as the Paul votes…..trolls and America Firsters.
Limerick on May 4, 2007 at 9:05 PM
Surprisingly, Rudy still pulled in Second. Don’t quite get the Ron Paul one, though.
amerpundit on May 4, 2007 at 9:08 PM
Which one was Ron Paul (seriously)?
SouthernGent on May 4, 2007 at 9:09 PM
Yeah…it is a strange outcome…..Paul pulled 66% of Rudys total? I smell a rat.
Limerick on May 4, 2007 at 9:09 PM
No way in Hell that was done by Trolls on three different opinion polls Romney Just out shined the other candidates.
He really is good I think the folks who call him slick are just jaded.
I think this shows he has a chance even with the mormon stigma. but I am still not ruling out the:
Fred / Romney 2008 ticket.
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on May 4, 2007 at 9:12 PM
The one who hates the war in Iraq, didn’t vote for its authorization, thinks we can fight the war on terror from our homeland, etc.
amerpundit on May 4, 2007 at 9:13 PM
By TROLLS I was refering to Paul…not Romney.
Limerick on May 4, 2007 at 9:14 PM
The “Paul phenomenon” can be explained by the fact he used to be a libertarian. Thus all the libertarians who vote for the those candidates (like for president in the past wasting their votes.) voted for him in this poll. It’s easy to explain if you know his background.
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on May 4, 2007 at 9:15 PM
Sorry Limrick
Thanks for the clarification :)
WastelandMan on May 4, 2007 at 9:16 PM
When is the next debate?
Limerick on May 4, 2007 at 9:20 PM
Actually, there were two BIG winners in this debate – Fred and Newt.
RedWinged Blackbird on May 4, 2007 at 9:21 PM
I wish I would have watched this so I could vote. (weeping)
Maxx on May 4, 2007 at 9:25 PM
Yeah, except Newt’s got more baggage than Paris Hilton on a 4 week vacation to Fiji.
amerpundit on May 4, 2007 at 9:26 PM
Paris won’t need much baggage where she is going for 45 days.
News2Use on May 4, 2007 at 9:32 PM
A thread worthy of the most vile comments in HA land.
I like Newt, but I am afraid he can’t beat IronPantsuit. Old administration rivals replaying Whitewater and Village politics would put the Suit into office.
Limerick on May 4, 2007 at 9:33 PM
Mitt had his minions vote.
Either way, Fred! won the debate hands down.
Tim Burton on May 4, 2007 at 9:37 PM
I think Fred Thompson won. Romney will take some away from Rudy and McCain and overall Fred will score higher.
crosspatch on May 4, 2007 at 9:38 PM
Romney looks like human Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Let him beat the drum about Islamofascism louder.
The tin ears are still not hearing what the threat is.
Even after people jumped 110 stories to warn them.
It hasn’t penetrated the shuffling sleepwalkers, yet
profitsbeard on May 4, 2007 at 9:39 PM
Hey, I resent that! I voted for him in 1988, even volunteered to work on his campaign. But today I wouldn’t vote for him for any office more powerful than City Council or County Commissioner.
His performance in the debate was dismal, and his good polling wasn’t JUST from Libertarians… It was at least 1/2 anti-war lefties responding to his cut-and run position and hoping to reduce the impact of the conservatives in the debate.
LegendHasIt on May 4, 2007 at 9:39 PM
Oh, Let me add that when Ron Paul switched back to Republican from Libertarian, BOTH parties were the worse for it.
LegendHasIt on May 4, 2007 at 9:42 PM
Romney/Gingrich
JustTruth101 on May 4, 2007 at 9:49 PM
Tonight on CSPAN Fred! speaks. 11:30 pm EST.
CrimsonFisted on May 4, 2007 at 9:53 PM
When is the real next debate?
amerpundit on May 4, 2007 at 10:07 PM
Honestly, I think Ron Paul’s people have been spiking online polls for weeks. He’s run big in Pajamas Media’s weekly polls too, but it doesn’t make any sense. Nobody’s heard of him and he’s never mentioned in the news anywhere. They’re trying to make it look like he has more support than he really does. Jonah Goldberg remarked about this in The Corner today…
CP on May 4, 2007 at 10:08 PM
Don’t get me wrong. I am a big fan of Newt but I think his baggage would drag down Romney.
calirighty on May 4, 2007 at 10:08 PM
Ron Paul is an ass… He’s our Kucinich. I saw him going off on Red Eye about how he’s the only true conservative, but virtually everything he said was idiotic. Perhaps it wasn’t what he’s all about and he was just seeking attention, but I’d be happy to just never hear of him again.
RightWinged on May 4, 2007 at 10:10 PM
My prediction:
If Fred! runs, it’s between Mitt and Fred!
infidel4life on May 4, 2007 at 10:15 PM
So when does McCain jump ship and start the Middle Ground party? Only 8 months to SuperTuesday and I doubt he will wait around for that. How much of the Nov vote does he take with him?
Limerick on May 4, 2007 at 10:31 PM
Most amusing in 2004 were those never-ending Democrat debates of the dwarfs and dwarfier. Now we have our own. It makes me puke to be in the same ridiculous league.
Entelechy on May 4, 2007 at 10:36 PM
I get a kick out of this from Drudge:
crosspatch on May 4, 2007 at 10:38 PM
No.
Romney will not wih the primary. Probably McCain, unless Guliani can somehow pull himself more to the right.
And then there is the wild-card… Fred Thompson.
Lawrence on May 4, 2007 at 10:48 PM
1/100th of a percent of the adult population. Gives me hope for our future!
Limerick on May 4, 2007 at 10:48 PM
Thompson’s prepared speech tonight doesn’t include him announcing a run.
amerpundit on May 4, 2007 at 10:59 PM
Oh man:
RightWinged on May 4, 2007 at 11:00 PM
If Mitt! gets the nomination, fred seems to have all the skills needed to be a good VP. He is not in the race, he has some, yet limited experience, and slings a good line of conservative rhetoric. The perfect mix of atributes for a VP.
But, since fred is still deciding to consider thinking about wondering if he should run, Mitt! would need a VP that would appeal to moderates, indies, and undecideds. The problem is, I doubt any of the current crop of presidential candidates would accept that roll. Which brings me back to fred. He isn’t a candidate and has nothing to lose by being the VP. Maybe after 8 years under Mitts! tutelage, fred will be ready to be Fred!.
csdeven on May 4, 2007 at 11:27 PM
Fred! would be 75/76 then…don’t think that’ll work. It is now or never for Fred!. McCain too.
Limerick on May 4, 2007 at 11:32 PM
What the hell is up with CSPAN? I went to the site at 11pm eastern and they listed the Fred! interview coming up at 11:30. Now all I get is VA briefing stuff. What are my fat fingers doing wrong?
Limerick on May 4, 2007 at 11:36 PM
Limerick, I don’t see it either.
amerpundit on May 4, 2007 at 11:40 PM
Well it was fracking listed at 11 (10 central)…..I smell another rat!…..ahhhh now it is up.
Limerick on May 4, 2007 at 11:41 PM
They are waiting for the intro to be over I guess. I caught a short blurb and a shot of the stage…now filling in with Iraq/Egypt stuff
Limerick on May 4, 2007 at 11:42 PM
I heard of Ron Paul for the first time ever by watching him in the debate. Aftewards, I was intrigued to do some research on him. I’ve concluded he’s a great man, a thoughtful and honest person who deserves high accolades for his consistency and his articulate performance.
Having said that, I completely disagree with him on foreign policy: I’m an interventionist. Yet I can’t help but feel great respect for his position, because he justified it appropiately within his philosophy of government. Same thing as with Rudy and abortion. Yeah, there’s disagreement – so what. He’s still cool in my book. Romney won the debate, but Ron Paul was definitely the surprise. The Democrats will never have the equivalent – a soft-spoken, intelectually deep and honest man who is a patriot and wagers it all for his country.
Baphomet on May 4, 2007 at 11:46 PM
Mitt: 1110
Fred!: 0
Lets stick with the talking points please. Until Fred! is brave enough to enter the race, we won’t even count him as a candidate.
As for me, I don’t think a Mitt/Fred! ticket would be enough to beat a Obama/Clinton election.
My take?
Mitt/Lieberman in 08. Boo Yah!
Darnell Clayton on May 4, 2007 at 11:50 PM
Rats! Does that mean he’s just going to rehash what he’s been saying for a month now? I hope not.
If he is going to continue to waffle about wondering if he should consider exploring the possibility of a thought toward deciding to consider running, the least he could do is say something new. Perhaps a rundown of his experiences in an executive position organizing the efforts of a large group of highly motivated intelligent professional people. If we are going to annoint him, we might as well demand that he ask himself the questions a real candidate would get in a debate.
Ohh ohh ohh. freds getting ready to speak! I hope he brought lots of signed skivvys for the crowd.
:-)
csdeven on May 4, 2007 at 11:51 PM
YOU’VE GOT TO BE KIDDING?! Theme music from a TV show?
Blech.
csdeven on May 4, 2007 at 11:53 PM
Well you sure did.
Limerick on May 4, 2007 at 11:55 PM
What I’m curious about would be a more in depth opinion from Michelle on Morris’ interpretation of the debate on O’Reilly tonight. I agreed with Morris that it was a wise move for Fred! to skip the debate. Malkin didn’t seem to buy the building up Romney, knocking down Rudy hypothesis, I think I give it more creedence than she seemed to, though I’m not sure I buy it either. Or the format and line of questioning on MSNBC.
As for Ron Paul, probably a mix of paleos, libertarians, and mostly liberals. Liberals *LOVE* Ron Paul. Well, they think they love Ron Paul, they really love that he’s strongly antiwar. Heh, I saw a week or so ago, some liberal wrote something like [paraphrasing]
You know, Ron Paul is a Republican I could support if he Supported Universal Health Care (and basically rattled off a list of every liberal position that a libertarian like Paul wouldn’t be caught dead endorsing)…
I forgot the rest, probably because my brain had to shut down at the monumental stupidity I had just read, I’m thinking, soooo you want a liberal Democrat then?
Bad Candy on May 4, 2007 at 11:55 PM
Maybe because we wouldn’t put anything past the liberals and their propoganda arm (the MSM)?
csdeven on May 5, 2007 at 12:05 AM
More debates, more impressive Romney wins as more people get to know him, he gets the nomination. And scares the bejeezus out of the MSM and the Dems.
WasatchMan on May 5, 2007 at 12:13 AM
Fred! just stomped on China……’Taiwan and China…BOTH those countries’ here come the Chinese dollars to Billary/Obama!
Limerick on May 5, 2007 at 12:19 AM
Yeah, but I would think Michelle would be the first to assume the worst of MSNBC and politico.
Bad Candy on May 5, 2007 at 12:22 AM
No Declaration.
amerpundit on May 5, 2007 at 12:25 AM
Heeeeyyyyy! They have a dessert buffet where fred will hand out signed pairs of his skivvys.
Yaaaaaa!
When do we get the fred thread?
csdeven on May 5, 2007 at 12:29 AM
A-
Not in question. He is in. Question is will he have the bucks? From what I saw I have no doubt that Mitt/Rudy/Fred! will be the only three standing the monday before SuperTuesday.
Limerick on May 5, 2007 at 12:30 AM
Biggest buttons he pushed(punched)…
1. Borders….close now/talk later
2. Maliase….the sky is falling my fanny
3. Islam……pick up a gun, you’ll need one
4. Taiwan…..a ‘country’….name one other poltician on the scene that is willing to do that?
5. Sacrifice…pull up your socks and quit sniveling.
DU must be going nuts right now.
Limerick on May 5, 2007 at 12:41 AM
I’ve heard that if he announces, he’ll get the cash he needs.
csdeven on May 5, 2007 at 12:42 AM
Can anyone confirm his story that Ronny used freds words in a speech he gave?
csdeven on May 5, 2007 at 12:44 AM
I will support whoever gets the nod…but right now what I just saw I truly liked. Could he stumble, sure, but for a ‘first’ policy speech he did pretty damn good from the perspective of Wise County, Texas.
Limerick on May 5, 2007 at 12:45 AM
Mr. Deven,
How would you like to make a little wager on who gets the GOP nod for ‘08?
If it’s Fred!, I win, and you buy me lunch for a week. If it’s Mitt!, you win, and I’ll do likewise.
Deal?
infidel4life on May 5, 2007 at 1:09 AM
When the MSM pull out their Mormon card, Romney’s in trouble. They are coiled and waiting…
Halley on May 5, 2007 at 1:14 AM
Romney needs to stop using so much mousse.
Connie on May 5, 2007 at 1:22 AM
A born Muslim/black supremacist “Christian” and the wife of an Oval Office pervert can beat Fred!/whoever?
Connie on May 5, 2007 at 1:29 AM
He better get seroius, or quit playing around for a couple of reasons. first, he’s way behind in fundraising and cannnot accept donations until he is “official”. Until then, he’s a distraction for donors determining where their campaign donations will go. Get in or get out Fred. This isn’t a game anymore.
Second, he’s getting a pass right now. He has the perfect situation from a press perspective. He’s sitting in for Paul Harvey so he has the perfect outlet for his daily postulations on his views. Also, he’s not under the gun from the MSM as he has not declared.
It is time. LEt’s hear what you got Fred. I’m hoping it is what we need, but I just do not know. And I ain’t gonna send money, or cast a vote based on “Law and Order”.
This is real life. Our party has alot to lose. Get serious dude, and show us what you got.
BacaDog on May 5, 2007 at 1:30 AM
No. Mitt! isn’t going to win. The evangelical christian holier than thous will make sure of it. They will make Mitts! faith an issue and start linking to their hate filled websites bashing the LDS faith. Halley above has it right.
That is why I agree with Dick Morris that the rep debate was about minumizing Rudy. If they can marginalize Rudy to the point where he is behind in the polls or even out of contention, then they’ll start in on Mitt! (with the “christians” in full support). Once Mitt! is destroyed, the other candidates wont have the steam or cash to beat whomever the dems put up.
If I’m right about this, it’d be better if Mitt! never ran.
csdeven on May 5, 2007 at 1:35 AM
Well, if you are right, csdeven, then we deserve to lose and be stuck with Hillary. If the “conservative Christians” would rather hate Mormons than Hillary, then they’ll get stuck with Hillary.
And they will deserve it. And I won’t feel a bit sorry, either.
Vanceone on May 5, 2007 at 3:21 AM
The money being raised is for campaigning against other Republicans. If he is not campaigning against other Republicans, he doesn’t need that money so he isn’t “behind”. He is possibly forcing the other candidates to campaign against him a little without having to campaign against them at all. Funds raised at this stage aren’t generally used for the general election, that fundraising comes later.
This election cycle has started WAY early. George W. Bush announced his candidacy in June of 1999. Fred still has plenty of time. Right now he is allowing the other candidates to beat each other up and chew through cash. He also didn’t have to suffer the “have you stopped beating your wife” questions from the silly MSNBC “debate”. Any why put himself in a field with longshot candidates like Tancredo and Paul? Why not wait until they are gone or so far down in the grass that they don’t matter and the field is a little tighter?
By staying out of the race he has minimized his chances of screwing up. If I were him I would be watching how he is polling. As long as he continues to rise without campaigning, what is the sense in campaigning at all? Once his polling starts to level off, then its time to get in there and get active.
crosspatch on May 5, 2007 at 4:14 AM
“If the “conservative Christians” would rather hate Mormons than Hillary”
Funny how we define conservatives in terms of who and what they “hate” isn’t it? It seems that the more extreme someone is to either the right or the left they are defined more by what they hate than what they like.
Extremists of all stripe tend to be “hate driven”. Just an observation.
crosspatch on May 5, 2007 at 4:15 AM
Fred Thompson mentioned in his interview with Hannity that he has some things to do before he would say he was running…ie. contractual obligations (he said he couldn’t just drop things on a dime). I imagine he has to finagle a way and figure out how to handle his current acting contract that he is under and running for the Republican ticket. I actually respect him for that. Mccain-feingold bs also may figure in…as he may not be allowed to be in an episode for the period of time before the election. I don’t see him as really playing around more like maybe getting his stuff in order to declare.
Time will tell I guess.
Highrise on May 5, 2007 at 4:40 AM
There is also the problem of the syndication of reruns of his show. There has been talk that if he runs, then airing of reruns of shows he has appeared in must either stop or “equal time” be given to other candidates.
Personally I think it is silly because he doesn’t appear under his own name. I would say “Fine, I will give you all equal time but just to make it fair, none of you can use your real name, just like Mr. Thompson on these shows”.
crosspatch on May 5, 2007 at 4:42 AM
It is kinda funny that people think it’s the conservative christians that seem to poke at Romney about his mormonism when in my experience, it’s been the loons on the left or people who want another Republican candidate to win, they’ll say that against him…mostly the former. So I definitely am not sure I’d say it would be conservative christians that want to nail him on his religion. The loons on the left are trying to cause rifts whereever they can.
Highrise on May 5, 2007 at 4:43 AM
oh and ron paul…bwuahhahhahaa…bwuhahhahaha. I would joke often to people how I thought maybe as I grew older I’d be a libertarian..but after hearing him talk, I won’t joke any more. He was a scary isolationist and sounded like a bitter old man.
Highrise on May 5, 2007 at 4:48 AM
Excellent point. I wish he would declare officially NOW, but I’m more than willing to accept that he has a very good reason(s) for not doing so, and is not merely being coy or fearful of commitment.
LegendHasIt on May 5, 2007 at 5:01 AM
Well I hope Romney chooses Dr. Rice as his V.P. ’cause the Russians just voted to put the “Hammer and Sickle” back on their Red Army flag.
It’s all goin’ down just like Ezekial said it would! Read “Epicenter” by Joel Rosenberg.
Tony737 on May 5, 2007 at 10:16 AM
Ron Who?????
I like Mitt well enough and if he’s the canidate, I’ll vote for him, but Fred! won the debate.
That circus was horrible and with so many horses, who could keep a watch on the leader board? The whole thing sounded like an exercise in a grade-school Me-Too fest. And the nutcase they had for a moderator? I have watched some of the SNL skits about Matthews and didn’t realize they were really just re-inactments. WOW.
Fed! won by not subjegating himself to that “debate”.
opusrex on May 5, 2007 at 11:43 AM
Well I hope Romney chooses Dr. Rice as his V.P. ’cause the Russians just voted to put the “Hammer and Sickle” back on their Red Army flag.
It’s all goin’ down just like Ezekial said it would! Read “Epicenter” by Joel Rosenberg.
Tony737 on May 5, 2007 at 10:16 AM
Do I detect a sence of hopelessness and despair?
sonnyspats1 on May 5, 2007 at 11:46 AM
No, not at all, we already know Who wins, don’t we? :-)
Tony737 on May 5, 2007 at 1:18 PM
Why didn’t anyone tell me that Fred! is married to a woman 25 years his junior!!???
he just lost my vote…and you may think that sounds crazy, but itsnot.
*sniffle*
Tru2my2 on May 5, 2007 at 1:40 PM
Well personally, this evangelical Christian doesn’t see himself as holier-than-thou, and wants the best man for the job to win against the dems. Mormon, Jew, truck driver, whatever.
infidel4life on May 5, 2007 at 2:03 PM
I’m liking Mitt more and more. He’s pushing for family values. I think that strengthening the family “system” will go a long, long way in cleaning up a good deal of the problems in our culture.
rahjr2k on May 5, 2007 at 3:24 PM
Why didn’t anyone tell me that Fred! is married to a woman
she is like 40 something and that is a problem?
Limerick on May 5, 2007 at 5:02 PM
Well, forgive me for generalizing you in with them. I have been dealing with the vitriolic half turths from supposed “christians” my whole life. There are no leading Pastors that condemn the behavior. (Much like the moderate muslim is silent) All you have to do is google the term “mormon cult” and you see why Mitt! will never get accepted by evangelical christians who engage in mormon bashing.
Look at what they did with harry potter. They were absolutely bat$hit crazy about those books and movies.
I’ll admit this though, we will see how they will respond. Mitt! will be a serious contender and those that hate mormons WILL raise their ugly accusations the minute he looks to be able to win the nomination.
csdeven on May 5, 2007 at 5:40 PM
Guys, please note that someone started using the term “conservative christians”. I cannot make that distinction. In my experience, the attacks come from evangelical christians and I never ask their party affiliation.
csdeven on May 5, 2007 at 5:45 PM
LOL these young pups!
Reminds me of Alice Cooper promising to kill himself before he turned thirty or the Who singing about “My (our for you and me I suppose Limerick) Generation”
Bradky on May 5, 2007 at 6:48 PM
All those that just “love” Fred Thompson make me think of someone else comparing him to Barrack Obama.. they have made him be a fantasy. He left the senate rather than do tough stuff, he has said things that has the rest of you screaming that Romney is a flip flop, and frankly is playing around rather than cutting the bait.
If he is going to run, I want him to quit playing the game, and actually RUN. Cowards aren’t my cup of hot chocolate.
Noelie on May 5, 2007 at 11:45 PM
Guys, it’s almost a year out… nobody cares about this one. Give it 6-8 months and I’ll be interested in the race.
This debate isn’t going to affect the actual votes, because nobody (statistically) is paying attention. What, you get to sway a portion of 2% of the voters who are paying attenetion this early?
Honestly, color me shocked that you had 2000+ poll respondents at HotAir for this. I didn’t poll, because I didn’t watch. I wonder if most of the poll respondents really watched the debate…
gekkobear on May 6, 2007 at 12:38 AM
A light at the end of the tunnel for Mitt!. Richard Land said that Mitts! mormoninsm isn’t a deal breaker if he comes out and deals with it ala JFK and his Catholicism.
Hopefully that light is not a train.
csdeven on May 6, 2007 at 11:21 AM
Well we know the fred groupies didn’t pay attention even if they did watch.
csdeven on May 6, 2007 at 11:22 AM
Who won the debate?
Well, in an admittedly informal poll of my 12 neighbors only one was aware there was a Repub debate and he didn’t watch it. For grins I asked if the knew who Romney was. 2 did, a husband and wife who moved from Boston 2 years ago. They were neutral about him.
In furthering my polling I called my parents who live in the South. They tend to be Conservative. They knew of McCain and Rudy. They had no clue who Romney was and as my father put it “the last thing I want to hear is yet another North Eastern know-it-all trying to tell the rest of the country how much they suck because they aren’t from the North East. I’d more likely vote for a Hollywood mouthpiece.”
He feels about the same for Rudy. He’s not crazy about Bush but hates the Clintons.
I think a lot of people are underestimating just how much people from the South and Mid-West really, really despise politicians from the North East. Rudy has a shot because of his actions on 9/11 and the rep of cleaning up NYC, but he is still viewed with a careful eye.
For those folks, Mitt’s biggest handicap isn’t being Mormon. It’s being from Boston. Despite coming from the other party he is going to be viewed by many as a slightly less annoying Kennedy.
There is a reason 4 out of the last 5 Presidents have been from the South–and that includes 2 from each party.
Faith1 on May 6, 2007 at 10:02 PM
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