Akon story gaining steam Update: audio added Update: Vent knocked offline at YouTube

posted at 11:31 am on May 3, 2007 by Bryan

Michelle was on the Laura Ingraham show earlier today to discuss rapper Akon’s assault on a 15-year-old girl during a concert in Trinidad. We’re hoping to get audio from the show to post, and it’ll be here if/when we get it.

Meanwhile, if you missed yesterday’s Vent about Akon and his various corporate sponsors, here it is. Click to play.

Here’s the YouTube version.

Michelle has a new post up about Akon, his “music” and his corporate enablers. Al Sharpton is holding a march for decency in hip hop today. He plans to banish the n-word, sexism and other vulgarities from hip hop. How about criticizing assault, Reverend?

Update: Here’s audio from the Laura Ingraham show today, including Michelle and Laura’s discussion of Verizon’s mainstreaming Akon.

Update: Yesterday’s Vent, which is the video above, dealt with Akon’s assault and exposed the corporate giants who are mainstreaming his pornographic rap. We put that episode on YouTube to make sure the story reached as many people as possible, but Akon’s corporate backers decided to claim a copyright infringement and force YouTube to yank the show. Michelle has details on that and what we plan to do about it here.

You may still watch the show above, and you may download an mpg4 version here. That’s the iPod version, but it will play on any computer that has iTunes installed.

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I am definitely contacting Verizon Wireless to complain that he is available.

CrimsonFisted on May 3, 2007 at 11:44 AM

You should see the Showtime Documentary on “crunking”. Fascinating Appalling stuff. Four year old girls grinding like strippers with a meth addiction.

natesnake on May 3, 2007 at 11:45 AM

It sure is getting warm in this handbasket.

Buck Turgidson on May 3, 2007 at 11:52 AM

Rev. Al is only just now goin’ after the rappers ’cause of the whole Imus thing. People started asking “Why is it ok for Snoop Dogg to say it?”. If not for Imus, this would never have happened. And rappers have been assulting little girls for long time.

Tony737 on May 3, 2007 at 11:52 AM

Tony737 on May 3, 2007 at 11:52 AM

Yep.

Jaibones on May 3, 2007 at 12:02 PM

You should see the Showtime Documentary on “crunking”. Fascinating Appalling stuff. Four year old girls grinding like strippers with a meth addiction.

natesnake on May 3, 2007 at 11:45 AM

Crumping. “Crunking” is hip hop slang for sex while high, drunk or both.

Savage on May 3, 2007 at 12:04 PM

A culture led and followed by a lower form of life.

Jaibones on May 3, 2007 at 12:04 PM

“crunking”. Fascinating Appalling stuff.

*YEAAAAAAH!!!*

wait…

*WHAT?*

oh,

*OK!*

Yeah it is appalling. I still wanna know how the hell you make millions of dollars screaming YEAH! WHAT? and OK! over some crappy track. Anyway, I hope there is a backlash against these tools. I’m still puzzled by how shocked people are by this content or behavior, but I guess I grew up with it so I’m desensitized to it…

Bad Candy on May 3, 2007 at 12:11 PM

Akon will surely get a pass, no matter how much noise we make.
Why should that surprise any of us?

Integrity is a foreign idea to our society these days.

unamused on May 3, 2007 at 12:23 PM

Acorn…shut up and sing.

Buck Turgidson on May 3, 2007 at 12:26 PM

You should see the Showtime Documentary on “crunking”. Fascinating Appalling stuff. Four year old girls grinding like strippers with a meth addiction.

natesnake on May 3, 2007 at 11:45 AM

You have a link to it? I can’t find it.

Tim Burton on May 3, 2007 at 12:26 PM

If you’re kids only want to listen to hip hop, at least make them listen to moral groups such as:

Mars Ill
LA Symphony
Pigeon John – One of the funniest and nicest people I know.

Tim Burton on May 3, 2007 at 12:27 PM

T-Mobile provides his ringtones also and I emailed them about my “displeasure” with that.

csdeven on May 3, 2007 at 12:28 PM

Exposure…a good thing.

Speakup on May 3, 2007 at 12:29 PM

So, I called Verizon, just for fun.

Calling an American corporation of any size these days is a lesson in The Fall of the Empire. Spanish recordings, corporate speak gibberish, ages on hold for nothing, illiterate people paid to tell you how sorry they are that you are unhappy with (whatever), not one person accessible at any level that knows anything about anything.

You nailed it, Buck.

Hell.In.A.Handbasket.

Jaibones on May 3, 2007 at 12:30 PM

Cute girl. How in the heck could her guardian(s) let this cute 15 year old girl go to a rap concert without them is something that needs to be asked. I’ll be the insensitive brute and say that in a way she is somewhat lucky that worse didn’t happen to her. No, she didn’t “deserve” it, she’s a dumb 15 year old kid, like I used to be. But her guardians are at least partially to blame.

RW Wacko on May 3, 2007 at 12:30 PM

I dispise Raving Al Sharpton, but better late than never.

I didn’t expect squat to happen after Imus (and actually still don’t expect anything AFTER this march – but then Al will have a comeback to Hannity’s “Why do you give rap music a pass” diatribe – ughh!)

omnipotent on May 3, 2007 at 12:37 PM

Al Sharpton will jump to defend Akon against these racists in just a little bit

Defector01 on May 3, 2007 at 12:39 PM

Keep it coming until this guy is on his knees, broke, or in prison.

Drum on May 3, 2007 at 12:49 PM

I know this is going to go over like a fart in church but does anybody think that call this “sexual molestation” or “assault” seem a little bit overboard? I certainly wouldn’t want my daughter on stage with this jerk but it doesn’t look like he is holding her against her will and I am hard pressed to find an instance in which she is hurt. I would love to see more video to see how she reacted later.

Having grown up in Chicago in close proximity to the black community I am not shocked by this performance nor the lyrics to Akon’s song. This stuff and worse has been around for years. It is a part of black culture that a lot of white people find offensive. Sexually explicit dancing is common among African-Americans and blacks in the Caribbean.

You can rail against this all you want but I doubt you are going to make any progress. No one in the target demographic seems to object when Brittney Spears et al. dresses scantily and dances so why would they care when Akon does the same with a seemingly willing accomplice. I’m afraid that hyperbolic statements are just going to make conservatives look more like moralizing killjoys.

Bill C on May 3, 2007 at 12:55 PM

If you think that calling that sexual assault is “hyperbole” then you are a fool, imho. And if your daughter were to find her way to such a show — which I now have reason to believe that she probably would — and experienced this behavior, I suspect that your attitude would be different.

But maybe not.

Jaibones on May 3, 2007 at 1:01 PM

Keep it coming until this guy is on his knees, broke, or in prison.

Drum on May 3, 2007 at 12:49 PM

FTFY.

Bad Candy on May 3, 2007 at 1:04 PM

Where was Al Sharpton when a Black principle was fired for no reason and replaced with a Hispanic in a predominantly hispanic school district? Well you can’t attack your own logic for firing white principals in majority Black school districts, can you? Gotta keep that ace up the sleeve.

Theworldisnotenough on May 3, 2007 at 1:06 PM

I’ve got to back up Bill C a bit here. I spent most of my formative years in a BAD part of Atlanta, and I’ll say right now that most black Americans probably don’t think the Akon thing is a big deal. Was there was any outrage shown by the audience at that show? Nope.

That being said, we need to hold people responsible for the laws of the land, and hold people to the standard of American behavior and ideals, not the moral standards of a particular minority. If it’s wrong, it’s wrong, just like female circumcision and polygamy are wrong. And what Akon did is just plain wrong and should be condemned.

I wouldn’t consider it molestation or assault except if it was sexualized dancing. But the girl later said she was traumatized and apparently she had bruises on her thighs and elsewhere as a result of Akon’s frenzy. That makes it assault in my book.

RW Wacko on May 3, 2007 at 1:12 PM

I mean I wouldn’t consider it assauly if it was sexualized dancing, not “except if”.

RW Wacko on May 3, 2007 at 1:12 PM

Where was Al Sharpton when a Black principle was fired for no reason and replaced with a Hispanic in a predominantly hispanic school district? Well you can’t attack your own logic for firing white principals in majority Black school districts, can you? Gotta keep that ace up the sleeve.

Theworldisnotenough on May 3, 2007 at 1:06 PM

They’ve already played that Ace. I attended the Kansas City Magnet Schools in the mid/late 80′s. During that time, highly qualified white principals were being replaced under the theory that black students could only look up to black role models and could only thrive in an environment led by a black principal.

It was hogwash and the district lost a lot of good principals.

JadeNYU on May 3, 2007 at 1:17 PM

“it doesn’t look like he is holding her against her will and I am hard pressed to find an instance in which she is hurt.”

How can you tell? He’s flinging her all over the place and really fast! How the hell is she supposed to get away from that? And what if she had hit him and fought back? The thugs that run these shows would have been all over her, not to mention the boos and jeers all the other little sycophants with nothing going on in their lives would have throw at her. The whole thing’s a mess, and if this is par for the course in the cities, then keep some troops home this spring and put ‘em them there to bring some order and sanity for those who deserve better and don’t want to give Acorn anything other than a kick in the ass that’ll send him back to Senegal.

Drum on May 3, 2007 at 1:20 PM

Its shouldn’t be but it still is amazing to me that stuff like this gets a pass but a group like Stuck Mojo comes under all kinds of fire for their “content.”

Zetterson on May 3, 2007 at 1:22 PM

If you think that calling that sexual assault is “hyperbole” then you are a fool, imho. And if your daughter were to find her way to such a show — which I now have reason to believe that she probably would — and experienced this behavior, I suspect that your attitude would be different.

But maybe not.

Jaibones on May 3, 2007 at 1:01 PM

I think calling what Akon did sexual assault is hyperbole. Simulating sex might offend some sensibilities but it occurs every weekend in innercity nightclubs. Her age is another issue. If Akon knew she was 15 then dancing with her like that is very troubling.

I wouldn’t consider it molestation or assault except if it was sexualized dancing. But the girl later said she was traumatized and apparently she had bruises on her thighs and elsewhere as a result of Akon’s frenzy. That makes it assault in my book.

RW Wacko on May 3, 2007 at 1:12 PM

That is why the video of the girl after this dance would be very interesting. Was she crying and trying to get off the stage or was she smiling and staying?

This whole thing smells like the Duke no rape case to me. We are missing crucial information and, because of this, jumping to a conclusion by calling this assault.

Bill C on May 3, 2007 at 1:23 PM

Bill C on May 3, 2007 at 1:23 PM

Bill Clinton is that you?

JayHaw Phrenzie on May 3, 2007 at 1:35 PM

I know this is going to go over like a fart in church but does anybody think that call this “sexual molestation” or “assault” seem a little bit overboard? I certainly wouldn’t want my daughter on stage with this jerk but it doesn’t look like he is holding her against her will and I am hard pressed to find an instance in which she is hurt. I would love to see more video to see how she reacted later.

Having grown up in Chicago in close proximity to the black community I am not shocked by this performance nor the lyrics to Akon’s song. This stuff and worse has been around for years. It is a part of black culture that a lot of white people find offensive. Sexually explicit dancing is common among African-Americans and blacks in the Caribbean.

You can rail against this all you want but I doubt you are going to make any progress. No one in the target demographic seems to object when Brittney Spears et al. dresses scantily and dances so why would they care when Akon does the same with a seemingly willing accomplice. I’m afraid that hyperbolic statements are just going to make conservatives look more like moralizing killjoys.

Bill C on May 3, 2007 at 12:55 PM

According the interviews, the girl was thrilled to get up on stage. Why not? Thiam, “Akon,” The Convict is a prettied up celebrity, promoted on MTV, VHS, all the radios, American Idol. Based on what media had presented, the girl thought he was terrific and he was in town, she did not know how far it was going to go. Why should she have? Once he had her, she was helpless. You did not see how he threw her around as if she nothing more than a rag doll. It was a frightening video. My girls had heard only his white-washed songs, cleaned up for the radio, not the originals and they were shocked. Normally, I would have found it inappropriate for them to see such a sight, but they were under the impression, as put out by the media, that Akon was a nice guy. They left, sick after they watched him “do his thing” on stage. Told them, remember, you buy ANYTHING from him and it’s your hard-earned money in his stinkin’ pockets. If Verizon keeps up their association with him, we’re not renewing our contracts.
There is no reason to give “black culture” a pass on this. Not all Africans nor African-Americans buy into it, by no means. The families I know, the fathers accompany their teenage daughters to concerts, and if they don’t like something, they haul their girls out. Most Africans are a lot more conservative than what ol’ Thiam (Akon) displays.
The most sickening aspect of this is the way that the Media corporations have used millions of dollars to package these thugs and present them to the public as persons to be idolized. Aloiune “Akon” Thiam, along with several like-principled rappers, would be nowhere – well, probably back in prison, if not for massive corporate promotion of deviency. In fact, since the media is in the practice of running two streams, the cleaned up version and the orginal vulgar version, the media is complicit in deceiving the parents as to the real nature of these rappers.

naliaka on May 3, 2007 at 1:36 PM

All Akorn has to do is say it’s “his culture” and everyone that’s infected with political correctness will immediately back off and start singing his praises for being true to his “culture”.

darwin on May 3, 2007 at 1:40 PM

Akon will surely get a pass, no matter how much noise we make.

unamused on May 3, 2007 at 12:23 PM

Most likely. He’s not white, or Christian, or conservative, so the rules don’t apply to him.

infidel4life on May 3, 2007 at 1:41 PM

I’ve got to back up Bill C a bit here. I spent most of my formative years in a BAD part of Atlanta, and I’ll say right now that most black Americans probably don’t think the Akon thing is a big deal. Was there was any outrage shown by the audience at that show? Nope.

That isn’t an argument for it being the norm, it is an argument that the black culture is broken. As bigotted as it sounds it is true.

And before you go off on me, in the 90s I volunteered to work at Cabrini with Sunshine in Chicago.

Tim Burton on May 3, 2007 at 1:45 PM

>This whole thing smells like the Duke no rape case to me. We are missing crucial information and, because of this, jumping to a conclusion by calling this assault.

Dude, if it were my daughter, First: she wouldn’t have gone. Second: but if I was weak and foolish enough to let her go and she dug being treated this way, I’d be preparing to be an early grandfather, because only a clueless twit or lonely and lacking young lady could approve of this sort of thing happening to her, and I’d deserve to have charges pressed against me for allowing my daughter to enter this sort of environment.

A better society would not allow an Acorn into the country. Then again, a better society would not devolve to the point where this sort of thing is an issue and where rap music is anything other than something degenerates wallow among in dark alleys or forests.

Drum on May 3, 2007 at 1:45 PM

Well said, naliaka.

StephC on May 3, 2007 at 1:49 PM

Bill C,
The reason we have laws to protect children is things like this. I’d like to see you say the same thing if it were your 15 year old daughter.
Laws are meant to protect kids who do idiotic “grownup” things.
In this day and age of “teens having rights” they still need our protection against predators like akorn. Or akon or whatever his nickname is.

SuperManGreenLantern on May 3, 2007 at 1:49 PM

Couple of things:

Akon is a R&B Singer, not a rapper (Just to clear the air)
Second, I dont think he will get much of a “pass” case in point R. Kelly in all the media scrutiny on him.

JVelez on May 3, 2007 at 1:57 PM

Welcome back to quotas, more Hispanics like the millions of new citizens and even more millions of immigrants after an amnesty means forced hiring of those Hispanics by law.
What do you think happens to people who already have those jobs?

Joe Baca who met with the Pres. the other day is trying to do exactly that.

Hispanic Racism Rears its Ugly Head in US Congress

By Daneen G. Peterson, Ph.D.
September 22, 2005

After reading a newspaper column titled: Survey reviews Hispanic hiring, Rep. Joe Baca Sr. [D- Rialto, CA] leads task force to ensure corporate America reflects its [Hispanic and Latino] communities, several thoughts came to mind. Information in the article reveals that U.S. House of Representative’s Baca has launched a quest to gain ‘proportional equivalence’ for Hispanics and Latinos in corporate America’s hierarchy and board rooms. Outrageously, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus’ Corporate America Task Force, led by Baca, has sent a racial indices survey to the top Fortune 100 U.S. companies. It is very evident that the survey and the discussions surrounding it, are patently racist in their intent, evaluation and proposed remedies.

To countermand that intent, it is suggested that corporate America refuse to participate or respond because if they do, they should know by now that their future will include the same kind of blackmail that Jesse Jackson has used. Or is that hispmail they will face? Why would corporate America set themselves up for that kind of future by answering such a divisive survey? Didn’t they learn anything from Jesse ‘James’ Jackson and others of his ilk?

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/BACA.html

Speakup on May 3, 2007 at 2:02 PM

How in the heck could her guardian(s) let this cute 15 year old girl go to a rap concert without them is something that needs to be asked

And if someone tried to do that to Monsterette 2 (a couple years older than the victim here) with me in the audience, I’d be arrested for what I’d do to him, if M2 didn’t kill him herself first.

The Monster on May 3, 2007 at 2:28 PM

Where is Michael Richards to tell us what we would have done “in the old days?”

Again, the shock is that this isn’t shocking. What, the guy’s just dry humping some 15-year-old on stage. SOP.

It’s not like he’s Clarence Thomas or something.

saint kansas on May 3, 2007 at 2:30 PM

Second, I dont think he will get much of a “pass” case in point R. Kelly in all the media scrutiny on him.

JVelez on May 3, 2007 at 1:57 PM

If not for this site I never would have heard about this. I would call that getting a pass. If the MSM wasn’t paralyzed by the distant shoutings of Islamafobia and racism on the horizon this would have been instantly broadcast on every major network and been put on the front page of every major newspaper. I hope you are right and they eventually pull their heads out of the sand but I’m not going to hold my breath. I think he is going to get a pass and for the most part already has. The truth is that in order for people to really understand the extent of this story/problem the MSM will have to show the video. That will never happen. They will also have to tackle much larger issues surrounding this story and that they will never do either.

Zetterson on May 3, 2007 at 2:30 PM

File ethics complaint here.

Gregor on May 3, 2007 at 12:47 PM

I tried it, but got the following: “Issues concerning Verizon Wireless cannot be addressed through this program. Please instead call 800-922-0204 to report your concern.”

So, call. I’m about to…

BNCurtis on May 3, 2007 at 2:56 PM

Disgusting perverted criminal. A con vict should never be allowed on stage with this crap again. Talk about dumbing down the people…Anyone who likes this, watches this, endorses this crap is a part of the dumbing down process.

Its all in his name A CON. Not Ex Con but A Con.

shooter on May 3, 2007 at 3:18 PM

I wouldn’t call “Smack That” R&B, but what do I know.

BTW, apparently her father is a pastor, and she was on stage b/c she won a lewd dancing contest earlier. Check out her outfit,sluttly as heck. Not defending what looks like an assault, but as for child molestation, she certainly doesn’t look 15.

RW Wacko on May 3, 2007 at 3:20 PM

No sympathy for a 15 year old girl who should never had gone there. EVER.

“Tricked into going to a dance contest”.

Please. Just PLEEEEZ.

seejanemom on May 3, 2007 at 3:25 PM

Black artists need to express themselves. It’s art when they molest young girls.

The fact that parents both black and white let their daughters dress up like ho’s doesn’t excuse it, unless you’re of the Islamic thought that women ask for rape based on their wardrobe.

Hening on May 3, 2007 at 3:28 PM

My link didn’t post but you can see for yourself at the Hollywood Grind website. She has a nice tattoo above her arse, too. BTW, this took place in Trinidad, not sure what the cultural norms are like there. Glad it didn’t happen here, think that is what disturbed a lot of people, thinking it happened in a black community in the USA.

RW Wacko on May 3, 2007 at 3:29 PM

Not only will he get a pass but all this attention will give him ‘street cred’ with the kids — he’ll be more popular then ever.

And the recording executives will rub their greedy hands together thinking of all the additional money they will make on the abuse of this girl and others like her.

CrazyFool on May 3, 2007 at 3:31 PM

“… then dancing with her like that …”

Bill C on May 3, 2007 at 1:23 PM

My mistake. We live in different worlds…

Jaibones on May 3, 2007 at 3:33 PM

Actually makes me glad that my two oldest daughters (12 and 13) are fans of the Beatles.

coyoterex on May 3, 2007 at 3:40 PM

No sympathy for a 15 year old girl who never should have gone there. EVER.

“Tricked into going to a dance contest”.

Please. Just PLEEEEZ.

seejanemom on May 3, 2007 at 3:50 PM

Reminds me of the Puerto Rican day parade back in…was it 2000?

This is nothing new folks. Unfortunately I think very few blacks will stand against this. It just wouldn’t be “cool”

flipflopper on May 3, 2007 at 3:51 PM

I wouldn’t call “Smack That” R&B, but what do I know.

BTW, apparently her father is a pastor, and she was on stage b/c she won a lewd dancing contest earlier. Check out her outfit,sluttly as heck. Not defending what looks like an assault, but as for child molestation, she certainly doesn’t look 15.

RW Wacko on May 3, 2007 at 3:20 PM

According to local news reports, the girl went out with her friends to sneak into the club, because the big international star was there. Hey, it’s Trinidad, an island, so that’s a big, big deal, it’s not a deserted island for sure, but entertainment options are not of the variety available in the USA. Her father said he did not know what she was up to that night. It’s not implausible in a small city on an island – for girls and guys to be out and about at night – in hot climes a lot of evening activity goes on and people are on the streets late.
It was a local club, not a big concert arena. Yes, she went in naively, wanting to be pretty, wanting to be part of the scene, as a 15 year old girl trying to keep up with the fashions would do. Getting jerked across the stage and humped violently in such a degrading manner is not part of the fantasy. Why should she be made fun of when she was completely out-manuvered – starting with the deceptive media image that had been built around Thiam/Akon (that’s A-Con as in convict). Obviously the record label was not allowing the greater public to see this side of the man and the truly abominable aspects of the rapper culture, that they’ve infused with gross amounts of corporate cash.
The media is incredibly dishonest. Parents have to preview everything. When I grew up, my parents had a society that placed restrictions on content. They never had to worry about what we might accidently see changing channels. Not now. Worse, the media knowingly packages their products in a deceiving manner. For example: How else explain a movie with a kid with a squirt gun and a turned back baseball cap on the cover and the teaser, “Like ‘Home Alone’” yet have four bloody murders in the first 15 minuts? How many movies are 95% wholesome, then they slip in some completely gratuitous and vulgar scene that catches all, parents and kids by surprise? Too late, the kids have seen it, the damage is done, and done on purpose by what actor Jon Voigt would call, “cunning professionals.”
There’s a lot to this A-kon business and it’s not all “Black Culture.” Who are the movers and shakers at Akon’s record label? It wasn’t African-Americans at TIME/Warner who gave the nod to songs that glorified killing police. “Cunning professionals” is right.

naliaka on May 3, 2007 at 4:14 PM

If they’re all over 18, it’s merely cretinish freedom of speech.

It not, its assault, abuse, and statuary simulated rape.

Let the 15 year and her family sue him back to the hood.

Where he can sing the praises of cubic zirconiums. And serve curly fries instead of soft porn.

profitsbeard on May 3, 2007 at 4:14 PM

You know, this is definitely a case where having the Vent video format gets the point across. Until I watched it, I thought this may have been a little close to Tipper Gore territory–but no, this is pretty depraved behavior by him and his crap shouldn’t be mainstreamed by Verizon.

see-dubya on May 3, 2007 at 4:33 PM

Excellent! Keep up the pressure.

SisterToldjah on May 3, 2007 at 4:56 PM

“I’d be arrested for what I’d do to him, if M2 didn’t kill him herself first. ”

The Monster on May 3, 2007 at 2:28 PM

Machine and Monster see eye to eye one mo’ time.

Some of the comments in this thread were sickening The Machine until he came to The Monster’s lucid response to a sordid situation.

Although The Machine does put responsibility for the girl even being there where it belongs — on the parents. Machine and Mrs. Machine always knew what our kids were up to. At all times. We weren’t oppressive parents either, before one of the leftoids tries to go there, we raised our kids to trust us and to talk to us and we trusted them to make proper decisions. When you do it that way, the kids make even more conservative decisions than you might make for them, funny that.

Monster, gimmie a ring and I’ll tellya how to do it without the arrest hassle, ‘k?

It’d go down as a driveby from one of his “friends”…

.

The Machine on May 3, 2007 at 5:22 PM

Verizon Wireless Executive Offices:

866-673-9561

I told them to expect your calls.

Tru2my2 on May 3, 2007 at 5:34 PM

Hmmm. . . Interesting that Laura’s sidekick was reading word for word from my column on Akon (without giving me credit, of course). The part about Akon’s father practicing polygamy, making sure Akon was born here, that he was an anchor baby–all stolen from me and my time researching. Thanks, Laura and company. I know it’s way to hard to give credit where credit is due, and far much easier to steal and pass it of as your own. Hmmm . . . another Sean Hannity in the making.

Debbie Schlussel on May 3, 2007 at 5:42 PM

Maybe we should just start flagging Akon videos left and right, two can play the ban game.

Bad Candy on May 3, 2007 at 5:52 PM

Would you have guessed that she was 14-15? I’m not saying that her “adult” appearance mitigates the assault. But it is interesting to see the current 15 year old girl fashion.

http://www.mediatakeout.com/5233/more_shocking_photos_of_akon_and_trinidadian_girl.html

greggish on May 3, 2007 at 5:59 PM

Maybe we should just start flagging Akon videos left and right, two can play the ban game.

Bad Candy on May 3, 2007 at 5:52 PM

No they can’t. We’ve seen the left dominate Digg and YouTube in the past because they have a machine. I hate to sound like Hillary, but there’s a vast left wing conspiracy… seriously. O’Reilly has been exposing this recently. Soros money gets filtered down to various groups who filter it down to others, etc. etc. There are paid “watchers” (apparently one was assigned to Imus and brought that whole situation out). It’s not far fetched to think that they pay idiots to sit around digging and flagging. They conceivably have a guy who finds things that need digging and flagging (in their opinion) and send out links to massive lists of people who then do the deed.

Anyway, even that’s not going on, the real issue is that these people are the same ones who we always wonder why they don’t have jobs when we see them protesting anything and everything. They’re a bunch of loser college stoners living off mommy and daddy’s allowance and have all the free time in the world.

RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 6:00 PM

Debbie, I think you are right on that one. I kind of wondered if they were staring at your column the whole time.

BTW, I want to thank you for exposing and actively documenting the continued rise of radical Islamic totalitarianism and the dhimmi attitude in Dearborn and surrounding areas. Now I know what to expect in a few years, as my area has a relatively large and rapidly growing Muslim population as well (home of the confused Muslim school bus riders).

Be safe; I admire your courage.

RW Wacko on May 3, 2007 at 6:03 PM

greggish on May 3, 2007 at 5:59 PM

It doesn’t excuse Akon for being a scumbag with a long criminal history and for what he did on stage, but the girl from the video (in the high res photos seen at the link you gave) show she seemed to be enjoying herself at the time… And as a commenter noted at that page, how is he supposed to know her age.. what kind of 15 year old has a tramp stamp on her back like that? Again, his behavior isn’t excused, but this girl isn’t some innocent villager that he dragged up on stage to dry-rape.

RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 6:08 PM

I hear you Greggish. She is dressed like an adult slut, has a tramp stamp (tattoo just above her arse), piercings, and besides that she doesn’t look 15 at all. So instead of disgusting behavior bordering on assault with a known child, it is disgusting behavior bordering on assault with a presumed adult. Still not good, but better than being assumed to be a pedophile.

RW Wacko on May 3, 2007 at 6:09 PM

Is she being forced to do this?

http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/?p=5355&page=1

RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 6:13 PM

Sorry I HAD to break that “69″ comment thing on the front page….

yeesh

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on May 3, 2007 at 6:17 PM

but Akon’s corporate backers decided to claim a copyright infringement and force YouTube to yank the show.

Perhaps Hot Air’s readers might consider flagging all of Akon’s YouTube videos for inappropriate content.

Just a suggestion…

The Ugly American on May 3, 2007 at 6:17 PM

The Ugly American on May 3, 2007 at 6:17 PM

Already suggested that. RW thinks it would go against us. We don’t have the machine to hold our own, the various leftists would just start flagging every conservative thing on youtube, as he says, they’re well organized for this sorta thing with Soros funded operations, we’re not. I think he may be right, actually.

Bad Candy on May 3, 2007 at 6:22 PM

all stolen from me and my time researching. Thanks, Laura and company. I know it’s way to hard to give credit where credit is due, and far much easier to steal and pass it of as your own. Hmmm . . . another Sean Hannity in the making.

Debbie Schlussel on May 3, 2007 at 5:42 PM

Why do you do that? You do something very interesting and informative, and earn respect and then you go off and be gratingly petty.
Email them and remind them, then if you don’t get satisfaction, you are free to whine in public, but be advised you won’t be respected for the whinging part of it.

naliaka on May 3, 2007 at 6:22 PM

…though I see Bad Candy is on the same wavelength…

The Ugly American on May 3, 2007 at 6:23 PM

We don’t have the machine to hold our own, the various leftists would just start flagging every conservative thing on youtube, as he says, they’re well organized for this sorta thing with Soros funded operations, we’re not. I think he may be right, actually.

How very “Harry Reid” of you… ; )

The Ugly American on May 3, 2007 at 6:25 PM

No sympathy for a 15 year old girl who never should have gone there. EVER.

“Tricked into going to a dance contest”.

Please. Just PLEEEEZ.

seejanemom on May 3, 2007 at 3:50 PM

Having read many of your comments before today I am surprised that you take this attitude. You can certainly argue that she shouldn’t have been there, (Did you never stray from the straight a narrow at 15? I sure did.) but no one desreves the treatment she recieved. If the woman was a paid performer knowing what was going to happen, maybe, but cretainly not an audience member.

conservativecaveman on May 3, 2007 at 6:27 PM

I have to say I am quite amused that 1 day after it seems the Hotair consensus was to take a stand in favor of strict intellectual property restrictions that a vent gets a beatdown from the DMCA.

Resolute on May 3, 2007 at 6:39 PM

Resolute on May 3, 2007 at 6:39 PM

Fair Use, dude. Google it.

Bryan on May 3, 2007 at 6:45 PM

Exactly, Bryan.

It’s pretty common knowledge…which makes their actions all the more puzzling.

The Ugly American on May 3, 2007 at 7:01 PM

Ah, guys up there. The law does not consider that a 15 year old girl is of the maturity to be the responsible party when one of the two is an adult. It doesn’t matter if she was naked.
I don’t care if she had been 18, what Thiam did with her was despicable. It would have been disgusting with a paid dancer or even an inflatable doll, ’cause we all got the message.
We’ve got two teenage girls and so are part of a wider circle of teenage girls. The major characteristic of that age range is that they are easily flattered, especially by older guys. A 13 year old can appear at first glance to be 20, but a few minutes talking with her and her immaturity becomes plain. They develop ridicuously overwrought crushes. A parent’s job is to provide a shelter and a protection for daughters as they work through this vunerable period to mature into more thoughtful people. It’s no accident that predators often target this age range – easy pickings.
I still despise the media and the record companies more for providing the means for guys like Thiam to rake in obscene amounts of money off our kids, because they are fully vesting in hiding the depravity from the general public.
Many, many thanks to HotAir and everybody who contributed (I’m not heartless) for pushing this out of the shadows and into the light of day.

naliaka on May 3, 2007 at 7:10 PM

but no one desreves the treatment she recieved. If the woman was a paid performer knowing what was going to happen, maybe, but cretainly not an audience member.

conservativecaveman on May 3, 2007 at 6:27 PM

I hate to say she was asking for it, but… wasn’t she? Look at the “poor defenseless little girl” in this photo:
http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/?p=5355&page=1

Or any of the others in that batch. Again, Akon is a scumbag, but first of all I don’t know that age is a factor (look at how she’s dressed, the belly piercing, the tramp stamp, and then how she herself acted). I also don’t know that we can condemn Akon for the “act” because as you sin in that photo I linked to above (among others) she was loving every minute of it, and not forced.

Akon is worthless and has spent roughly 20% of his 25 years on the planet in jail for various crimes, but I’m not sure this is the issue to launch the outrage.

Tell me, does this outfit say “I’m a 15 year old girl”, or does it say “porn star steps out to night club in LA”?
http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/?p=5355&page=19

RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 7:12 PM

You know, this is definitely a case where having the Vent video format gets the point across.
see-dubya on May 3, 2007 at 4:33 PM

Hot Air, thank you for moving this issue to the “front burner”. Talk about being a Culture Warrior! Wow! Well done Hot Air! Grass roots civic action of the best kind.

As has happened in the past, Michelle has definitely struck a nerve with that industry that allegedly produces music. By this time next week I would not be surprised to see stocks in that segment fall measurably.

Three Cheers for Michelle and Hot Air! Hip Hip Hooray, Hip Hip Hooray, Hip Hip Hooray!

Zorro on May 3, 2007 at 7:18 PM

Akon will probably sue Hot Air and win. Backwards

Drtuddle on May 3, 2007 at 7:18 PM

Hey where is that Lawyer lady that takes any woman’s cause she can. She kind of looks like pelosi.

Drtuddle on May 3, 2007 at 7:19 PM

RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 7:12 PM

I may not be completely supportive of this girl, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say she was asking for it. Dress today is meant to turn men on, but not meant to say “rape me.”

Nonfactor on May 3, 2007 at 7:21 PM

Would you have guessed that she was 14-15? I’m not saying that her “adult” appearance mitigates the assault. But it is interesting to see the current 15 year old girl fashion.

http://www.mediatakeout.com/5233/more_shocking_photos_of_akon_and_trinidadian_girl.html

greggish on May 3, 2007 at 5:59 PM

Would all those who are so shocked by the “assault” and “sexual molestation” please take a good look at the photos of this girl. This is exactly what I was talking about when i said we did not have all the information and MM did jump to a conclusion. Of course, the girl is going to say she was set upon. She got caught on camera acting like a slut. Haven’t we learned that women lie about sexual assault sometimes. Now you have proof that this whole thing is a charade.

Patrons have to be 18 years to purchase tickets when we sell tickets for our events,” Soong said yesterday. “We do check persons IDs. Obviously she got through the crack. It was advance tickets so it may not have been her who bought her ticket but someone could have bought it for her. There were also scalpers outside the venue selling tickets.”

Do you want to castigate Akon for simulating sex with someone who he had every reasonable expectation was 18 years old? You can say this sort of dancing is lewd but it is hardly criminal.

Bill C on May 3, 2007 at 7:23 PM

Drtuddle, you probably mean Gloria Allred.

Entelechy on May 3, 2007 at 7:23 PM

RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 7:12 PM

Trinidad. Beaches. Bathing suits, warm air. It’s pretty typical for summer teenager wear right now. Anyone take a peek at what Keira Knightly wore to the Disney premier of Pirates of the Caribbean, when she was 19?
I wouldn’t permit it, but what that girl was wearing was typical for a certain income level girl in a place like Trinidad. And I don’t mean poor. Middle, upper-middle class, with some money and private schooling (as opposed to crud government-schools) who practically studies MTV on the satellite TV networks. Poor girls are at home washing the clothes by hand in a bucket, can’t afford clubs, no how, now way.

naliaka on May 3, 2007 at 7:29 PM

Would you have guessed that she was 14-15? I’m not saying that her “adult” appearance mitigates the assault. But it is interesting to see the current 15 year old girl fashion.

http://www.mediatakeout.com/5233/more_shocking_photos_of_akon_and_trinidadian_girl.html

greggish on May 3, 2007 at 5:59 PM

Would all those who are so shocked by the “assault” and “sexual molestation” please take a good look at the photos of this girl. This is exactly what I was talking about when i said we did not have all the information and MM did jump to a conclusion. Of course, the girl is going to say she was set upon. She got caught on camera acting like a slut. Haven’t we learned that women lie about sexual assault sometimes. Now you have proof that this whole thing is a charade.

“Patrons have to be 18 years to purchase tickets when we sell tickets for our events,” Soong said yesterday. “We do check persons IDs. Obviously she got through the crack. It was advance tickets so it may not have been her who bought her ticket but someone could have bought it for her. There were also scalpers outside the venue selling tickets.”

Do you want to castigate Akon for simulating sex with someone who he had every reasonable expectation was 18 years old? You can say this sort of dancing is lewd but it is hardly criminal.

Bill C on May 3, 2007 at 7:32 PM

I may not be completely supportive of this girl, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say she was asking for it. Dress today is meant to turn men on, but not meant to say “rape me.”

Nonfactor on May 3, 2007 at 7:21 PM

Obviously you didn’t get the point of the photo I was linking to in relation to that specific comment.. The outfit is porn star attire too, but when I say she’s asking for it I’m talking about this picture:
http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/?p=5355&page=1

He’s laying casually back while she rides him like a bull (something we don’t see in the video of him throwing her around)

RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 7:35 PM

Why do you do that? You do something very interesting and informative, and earn respect and then you go off and be gratingly petty.
Email them and remind them, then if you don’t get satisfaction, you are free to whine in public, but be advised you won’t be respected for the whinging part of it.

conservativecaveman on May 3, 2007 at 6:27 PM

No joke! Quite literally my least favorite part of these comment threads.

Spirit of 1776 on May 3, 2007 at 7:38 PM

heh, flip the blockquote there

Spirit of 1776 on May 3, 2007 at 7:38 PM

RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 7:35 PM

I personally think it’s extortion on her part, but I don’t think that women who wear modern party dresses are asking to be raped or assaulted.

Nonfactor on May 3, 2007 at 7:39 PM

RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 7:35 PM

On top of that, no pun intended, she hardly looks like she is hating what is happening to her.

You have a teenage girl, who looks like a young woman, who was caught being naughty and is claiming assault to save her reputation. This is not the case that conservatives want to hang their outrage hats on.

Bill C on May 3, 2007 at 7:41 PM

I may not be completely supportive of this girl, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say she was asking for it. Dress today is meant to turn men on, but not meant to say “rape me.”

Nonfactor on May 3, 2007 at 7:21 PM

Obviously you didn’t get the point of the photo I was linking to in relation to that specific comment.. The outfit is porn star attire too, but when I say she’s asking for it I’m talking about this picture:
http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/?p=5355&page=1

He’s laying casually back while she rides him like a bull (something we don’t see in the video of him throwing her around)

RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 7:35 PM

I personally think it’s extortion on her part, but I don’t think that women who wear modern party dresses are asking to be raped or assaulted.

Nonfactor on May 3, 2007 at 7:39 PM

NONFACTOR, WHAT DIDN’T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT:

Obviously you didn’t get the point of the photo I was linking to in relation to that specific comment.. The outfit is porn star attire too, but when I say she’s asking for it I’m talking about this picture:
http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/?p=5355&page=1

He’s laying casually back while she rides him like a bull (something we don’t see in the video of him throwing her around)

RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 7:35 PM

It’s not about her outfit, SHE’S RIDING HIM LIKE A BULL AND HOLDING ON TO HIS BELT BUCKLE, WHILE HE LAYS BACK CASUALLY (NOT FORCING ANYTHING).

Nonfactor, do you understand that this is why I get irritated and insist that you either admit to being dishonest or stupid in other threads, because you constantly ignore things that are said to you or extrapolate whatever you want from them because you want to stick to your prepared talking points.

All you did was repeat what you already said, to which I specifically responded. And to head you off, you can’t argue that my response wasn’t sufficient, because not only is that not true, but you didn’t even acknowledge what I said.

RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 7:49 PM

You have a teenage girl, who looks like a young woman, who was caught being naughty and is claiming assault to save her reputation. This is not the case that conservatives want to hang their outrage hats on.

Bill C on May 3, 2007 at 7:41 PM

I certainly don’t. Akon is scum and deserves condemnation without this event.

RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 7:51 PM

You have a teenage girl, who looks like a young woman, who was caught being naughty and is claiming assault to save her reputation. This is not the case that conservatives want to hang their outrage hats on.

Bill C on May 3, 2007 at 7:41 PM

I assume that she has done a spectacular job of demolishing her father’s livelihood, so the damage control is really to recover whatever shreds are left of his credibility as a church leader. A man has to put food on the table for the family after all. He’s probably better off in car mechanics than in spiritual guidance anyway. She seems to be regrettably, but sterotypically (stunningly) example of the wild creature known in the community as the “Pastor’s daughter.”
Honestly, I don’t care about them, per se. This has been absolutely priceless in showing my daughters what rap is all about, and they’ve been busy today passing the word to all their girlfriends. AS the word spreads, Akon’s profit margins hopefully will wither to nothing – likewise with all the rappers. Verizon is getting an earful, but the MSM is a hard nut to crack.

naliaka on May 3, 2007 at 8:01 PM

Fair Use, dude. Google it.
Bryan on May 3, 2007 at 6:45 PM

That Hotair is on the right side of the law here because of “fair use” is irrelevant. The fact is you got beat down by the DMCA without ever going to court. Is it illegal to post the HD-DVD code? I don’t know it didnt go to court yet either. But there is Hotair in favor of strict enforcement on one issue and complaing about usage of the DMCA on the other, neither instance having seen a courtroom. What if this Akon footage had been released only from a locked HD-DVD format disk? Would you still post it and then claim fair use even though the distributer intended it to be “locked”? Interesting dilimma no? What is to stop the same locks on digitial video broadcast over the web? I know already Hotair uses tools like screen captures and video saving tools to save content when the creator intends to not distribute them or even deletes them!

My point is not to bash HotAir in away I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of cheering for intellectual property locks compared to the sudden demand for “fair use” for news when you are on the other end (the very next day lol!) You rely on free content to post as news. If you see no relation whatsoever between this “takedown request” and increasing locks of content on thigs like HD-DVD’s, then you simply are not looking at the large long term picture.

Resolute on May 3, 2007 at 8:13 PM

naliaka on May 3, 2007 at 8:01 PM

As a preacher’s kid who was no angel, I feel for him. Just to be straight with you, I find all this mildly amusing. It is entertainment which I can understand you don’t care for but I don’t think it rises to the level of assualt or molestation. In fact, using those terms to describe this incident makes me angry because it diminishes true cases.

Bill C on May 3, 2007 at 8:20 PM

If Ted Nugent simulated sex on stage with an underage girl dressed like Daisy Duke during Cat Scratch Fever, then we’d be glued to the 24-7 coverage on msnbc, CNN, HN, and FNC of this scandal on our TVs. The calls from prominent child advocates for boycotts and multimillion dollar payouts to the girl and her family would be endless.

Sounds vaguely ra-a-a-a-a-a-acist, doesn’t it?

ScottMcC on May 3, 2007 at 8:26 PM

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