Video: NBC cameraman flies Mexican flag on his camera Update: Yup, he works for the NBC affiliate
posted at 11:46 pm on May 1, 2007 by Ian
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The video is equally straight forward as it is appalling:
Thanks to reader Brian who was on the scene counter-protesting illegal aliens. Brian captured the video and wrote this description:
I was video taping with my anti illegal alien group at a protest on Saturday. Our Houston NBC affiliate was at the protest to do a story. The following picture below is a screen grab from the event. The NBC cameraman had a Mexican flag attached to his camera! This is making headlines on some forums here in Houston, and was talked about quite a bit this morning on both Houston and Dallas talk radio channels. Fair and balanced, unbiased and non partisan, right? Ha! The pro illegal alien supporting side no doubt got a kick out of seeing the NBC cameraman and reporter on their side!
More (BP): I’d like to note that we have no way of knowing whether the camera man actually works for the NBC affiliate or not. He’s not wearing anything that identifies him as such. He could be a freelancer. That’s no excuse–he shouldn’t have a Mexican flag attached to his camera, as he’s on the scene as a supposedly objective photojournalist. But it’s not as cut and dried to tie him to the local NBC affiliate. At least, not until we know a bit more about him.
Update (BP): Says WND–
KPRC News Director Skip Valet told WND the cameraman’s flying of the Mexican flag broke station rules.
“It violates our policy, because we’re always objective observers of these situations,” Valet told WND. “We don’t take sides in news stories; we cover them. That policy was clearly violated.”
The cameraman has been disciplined, Valet said, but he could not disclose details, because it’s a personnel matter.
Valet said the employee is a legal U.S. citizen who has been with the station for about five years. He went to cover the event by himself, the news director said, with the exception of an intern.
So there you have it.
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I would expect something like this in L.A. But Houston?
infidel4life on May 1, 2007 at 11:55 PM
journalists arent objective. they’re actually real people, with real opinions, and the quicker everyone realizes this the better off we’ll all be.
triple on May 1, 2007 at 11:56 PM
And I wouldn’t classify a cameraman as a “journalist” anyways, but whatever.
triple on May 1, 2007 at 11:57 PM
Fixed that for ya.
;-)
infidel4life on May 1, 2007 at 11:59 PM
Well I wouldn’t classify most journalists as journalists either, but he was evidently (by the look of that camera on his shoulder) in the role of shooting video for a news outfit, making him by definition a photojournalist. Which is why I used the term.
Bryan on May 2, 2007 at 12:00 AM
If you’re the cameraman who was filming us…who’s filming us now?
Buck Turgidson on May 2, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Not to mention we’re not in Mexico!
RightWinged on May 2, 2007 at 12:05 AM
Give it time it will seem like we are.
EnochCain on May 2, 2007 at 12:08 AM
The browning of america. Now, just how racist is that concept?
csdeven on May 2, 2007 at 12:14 AM
Bryan,
Here’s the confirmation that he was in fact an NBC cameraman.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/staticarticles/article55481.html
RightWinged on May 2, 2007 at 12:24 AM
How sadly true this is.
Entelechy on May 2, 2007 at 12:29 AM
Btw, Just to clarify what I said earlier in response to RW I have no problem with legal immigrants…its just the people who force their way in the door and demand things I have a problem with.
EnochCain on May 2, 2007 at 12:35 AM
Look, I think it’s clear that there are some jobs real Americans just won’t do.
Working as a cameraman for NBC is obviously one of them. I mean, really! Who here would want to be a cameraman for the MSM? ::crickets chirping:: Told ya.
So cut the man some slack, already.
;-)
Laura on May 2, 2007 at 12:36 AM
What the hell did my wife and I spend all that money for?
Passport, visa, work-permit, residency-card, government classes, lawyer, more residency-cards, waiting, waiting, waiting, more forms, more work-permits, more lawyers. I should have stuffed her in a suitcase in Shannon and just told the custom fella here I had nothing to declare. I Wonder if there are any other laws that we don’t have to follow?
Limerick on May 2, 2007 at 12:41 AM
How dare he represent his country of origin! I get just as outraged when I see my Scottish friend wave a Scottish flag!
Nonfactor on May 2, 2007 at 12:49 AM
is your Scottish friend here illegally and is he waving it in support of those breaking the laws of our country?
EnochCain on May 2, 2007 at 12:52 AM
Gee, my wife pledged alliegence to the Stars and Stripes and put the Green and Gold away forever. Imagine the hypocrisy of that! I do let her keep a little map of Ireland on the wall though. Tolerance and all that stuff.
Limerick on May 2, 2007 at 12:56 AM
You’re kidding right? EnochCain said basically what I was about to
What say you Nonfactor? Plenty of people stick a sticker on their bumper, etc. representing their heritage. That’s entirely different than being a cameraman for a mainstream media outlet at a rally where ILLEGAL ALIENS are marching and demanding the OUR constitutional rights, while waving MEXICAN FLAGS. Do you not understand, outside of the cameraman, how f-ing stupid that is? If Mexico is so great, GO BACK! It’s not, Mexico sucks, and that’s why they’re here! If they want to show that they’re just like us and are part of this country, why aren’t they waving only American flags (and I know, many have started to after media coverage of some of these events last year revealed that they were overwhelmed with Mexican flag wavers). There is no reason to be waving a Mexican flag at these events, NONE! And there especially isn’t for a local NBC cameraman.
RightWinged on May 2, 2007 at 1:06 AM
A little lesson in Flag Code, Flag Rules and Regulations
Also, fun quiz on Independence Day.
Entelechy on May 2, 2007 at 1:12 AM
Well, id hesitate to go that far. Photojournalists that act alone and tell a story are one thing. Local TV guys do exactly what they’re told to do and basically have zero creative control, and they influence a story’s slant about as much as the audio engineer. Its a technical job, not a journalistic function.
triple on May 2, 2007 at 1:40 AM
Whats scarier is what we dont see, mainly things behind the scenes – most people (hot air not included of course) have no idea what you can do with modern video editing.
triple on May 2, 2007 at 1:42 AM
triple,
Best if you not attempt to follow honora’s example of misdirection and deflection of a topic. The topic is that it’s wrong for an employee of a formal media outlet to prominently display the flag of a foreign country in support of a rally for a foreign country, while working and operating in the U.S. And if that media outlets rules say they can’t display the U.S. flag, then they surely should not display a foreign one.
As to this:
This says that’s exactly what he was, so your attempted point is invalid:
I guess he’s then a photojournalist. Not that it matters, he’s still an employee of the media outlet, in whatever capacity, and at the sight of a covered news story.
Freelancer on May 2, 2007 at 2:48 AM
Just a little something before I go to bed. I don’t know how many people outside the NY media market know who Adrienne Shelly was. She was an actress and writer who was found dead in her NYC apartment a few months ago.
The police originally thought it was a suicide, although within a day or two they had arrested a 19 year old illegal immigrant for her murder. Apparently he was working construction in her building and killed her when she asked him if he could keep the noise down.
Before she died she wrote and co-starred in a movie called Waitress. I’m not sure of the exact release date of the movie, and it may be out in some markets already, but it would be nice if the conservative blogosphere could champion her story. It’s an indy movie, but maybe with enough support it could do a decent box office and be used as an example of the real-life consequences of our lax immigration enforcement.
Check out the trailer over on Apple’s website if you get a chance. It looks like a good movie, and it’s a shame that Adrienne Shelly won’t be around to make any more.
Sorry that this is something of a long post, but I think that this is something that could have a positive effect on the fight against illegal immigration.
Shivv on May 2, 2007 at 4:05 AM
There hasn’t been any kind of blogstorm Shivv, but I remembered immediately what you were talking about, as Malkin blogged about her a while back
http://www.google.com/custom?q=adrienne+shelly&sa=Search&cof=AH%3Acenter%3BLH%3A124%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fmichellemalkin.com%2Fgraphics%2Fmm_logo.gif%3BLW%3A750%3BAWFID%3A816d74a6ad07d72e%3B&domains=michellemalkin.com&sitesearch=michellemalkin.com
RightWinged on May 2, 2007 at 4:30 AM
That is an cameraman gathering footage for NBC?
Yeah, that appears to be fair and balanced!
He does not look like an illegal invader supporter, does he?
William
William2006 on May 2, 2007 at 5:18 AM
I actually think triple is right in saying that. The problem is media dishonesty. Up until a few decades ago, most cities had media outlets that were unabashedly in favor of the left or the right. Then J-schools came along and started claiming that journalists should be neutral, which is tough for human beings with leanings of their own.
I think it would be much better if we had honest major media organizations that could admit to their biases, rather than the sham “neutrality” that we see today. Almost all of the major metro daily papers track to the left, as do the big three network news channels. Fox News can be said to track to the right, but I’d say their claim that they’re “fair and balanced” is correct because they invite people with opposing viewpoints to co-host or comment on their shows on a regular basis. Do hosts like Olbermann do anhything like that? Of course not.
It would be much healthier for this country if we had an openly partisan media, in my opinion. The fraud of a supposedly objective press hurts us all.
Sean M. on May 2, 2007 at 7:02 AM
I lived in Houston for 22 years (from 1978 to 2000) and watched its decline thanks to illegal aliens slithering in.
The fact that this happened in Houston does not surprise me in the least….and the illegal Mex problem is why I left. It is a city in decline. Like roaches, they are everywhere.
lynnv on May 2, 2007 at 7:54 AM
I lived in Houston for 22 years (from 1978 to 2000) and watched its decline thanks to illegal aliens slithering in.
The fact that this happened in Houston does not surprise me in the least….and the illegal Mex problem is why I left. It is a city in decline. Like roaches, they are everywhere.
lynnv on May 2, 2007 at 7:54 AM
How much do you want to bet if he was white and flew Old Glory he would have been called a racist and fired?
TheBigOldDog on May 2, 2007 at 8:06 AM
lynnv…Nothing quite like Houston in your rear view mirror, right ?
DoctorDentons on May 2, 2007 at 8:17 AM
I would have a much kinder attitude toward these illegals if they would show the least little bit of appreciation for this country and the sacrifices that made it great. They are just like every other group that has been co-opted by the left. “Me, me, me. Mine, mine, mine. These friggen a$$holes think crossing the desert illegally so you can do better for yourself is a worthy sacrifice that gives you rights in this country? I have two sons in the military, one IS going to Kikirk in August, my dad served 22 years in the Navy, as did my uncle. My great grandad came to this country LEGALLY in the 1800’s and worked his butt off to provide for his family. Several people here (limerick et al) have kids in the military serving in Iraq. Every single one of us have a vested interest in this country and we all put it on the line to keep it safe and free. I’ll be DAMNED if I’m going to sit back and let a bunch of selfish sniveling cowards (who wont sacrifice anything for their own F’d up country!) come to this country and demand equal rights.
My solution to those whom are illegal is 3 years mandatory military service after learning english. Then they can be US citizens and then they’ll know what it means to sacrifice for an idea that benefits others instead of themselves.
csdeven on May 2, 2007 at 8:37 AM
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Houston have a section where all the street signs are in Vietnamese? (I am NOT implying that the Vietnamese are here illegally)
RushBaby on May 2, 2007 at 8:41 AM
be nice, please. I know Houston has her share of issues, but I was born and raised there. I take offense at that. This cameraman could have lived in any city in the country. It just happened to be Houston.
Houston, like all cities on or near the border, is faced with a multitude of problems associated with illegal immigration. To say it’s a city in decline is just wrong. It’s not.
pullingmyhairout on May 2, 2007 at 8:42 AM
Yes, there are street signs in many languages. It’s what makes Houston such a great place. We are welcoming and generous. (I still consider myself a Houstonian, even though I no longer live there.)
pullingmyhairout on May 2, 2007 at 8:48 AM
Great place for what, separatism?
Wade on May 2, 2007 at 9:30 AM
The section of Houston I used to live in (37 years) is now occupied mostly by people of Asian decent. I can tell you a big difference between them and the people of Latin American decent. Although both speak their native language amongst themselves, the Asians having embraced America will hop up, talk to you in perfect english and will conduct commerce with you in a most American way. They are here because they recognize America is a far better place to live. They embrace America.
brtex on May 2, 2007 at 9:31 AM
Is HA going to cover the peaceful demonstaration in Macarther park in L.A.?
csdeven on May 2, 2007 at 10:04 AM
“Local TV guys do exactly what they’re told to do and basically have zero creative control, and they influence a story’s slant about as much as the audio engineer. Its a technical job, not a journalistic function. ”
triple on May 2, 2007 at 1:40 AM
You have absolutely no clue on this subject.
.
The Machine on May 2, 2007 at 10:30 AM
No, not separatism. Celebration. Celebration of all the different qualities that make Houston a great city.
Brtex said it perfectly:
I can’t say it better than that.
pullingmyhairout on May 2, 2007 at 10:53 AM
What a crock
Wade on May 2, 2007 at 11:51 AM
I think the American Southwest is lost.
PRCalDude on May 2, 2007 at 11:52 AM
Why is that a crock? What’s so bad about legal immigrants embracing the American way of life while maintaining their own culture? What’s so bad about celebrating all kinds of cultures? Expanding your mind? Learning about other people? Appreciating that we aren’t all lilly white, suburbanites?
Obviously you have no appreciation for other cultures or you would agree with what I said. The melting pot is what makes our country unique and GOOD. The fact that we open our doors to all kinds of people deserves to be celebrated. My husband’s family came here from Greece, through Ellis Island. They embraced America, and yet maintained their Greek culture. The Asians in Houston have done the same. That is not a crock.
pullingmyhairout on May 2, 2007 at 12:17 PM
Flying the mexican flag in this context, at an Illegal alien march against America’s Laws is purely a RACIST statement!
abinitioadinfinitum on May 2, 2007 at 12:49 PM
Quote in the Los Angeles south bay’s Daily Breeze this morning: “We’re latino, we have to stick together.”
PRCalDude on May 2, 2007 at 12:55 PM
Its not so much a melting pot here anymore as it is a Balkanized Tower of Babel.Different cultural groups don’t seem to want to assimilate-they want separatism,and have developed huge cases of entitlement-itis. Not to mention chip-on-shoulder disease.
I’ve got nothing against restaurant signs in 2 languages, but everything against ballots,for instance,in ANY language but English.If this is provencial thinking,so be it.
lizzee on May 2, 2007 at 1:09 PM
To display the mexican flag at these protests does not say…
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The only American LAW I broke is crossing the border. I would be PROUD to be an American citizen FIRST with a mexican heritage second.
.
What it says is…
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The BORDER CROSSED ME when you WHITE people STOLE OUR LAND and we are going to take it back by Illegal Immigration, over population by birth rates, using your lunatic left wing liberal party or all of the above.
abinitioadinfinitum on May 2, 2007 at 1:20 PM
No, my Scottish friend is not here illegally, but neither is the cameraman (I expect), and how do you know the cameraman is waving his country of origins flag because he is “in support of those breaking the laws” and not simply because he is proud of where his family came from?
Ethnic pride doesn’t exist in your world, does it?
Nonfactor on May 2, 2007 at 2:27 PM
Nonfactor, you’re as dishonest as ever. You took one part of my quote out of context so you could ignore the larger point that buried you.
RightWinged on May 2, 2007 at 2:29 PM
Krydor and I are taking up our previous discussion between our two blogs.
Here’s another answer to your previous question: http://www.probe.org/theology-and-philosophy/theology—bible/authority-of-the-bible.html
PRCalDude on May 2, 2007 at 2:38 PM
Out of context? I quoted an entire sentence. You could’ve removed that sentence if you didn’t want anyone responding to it. The section I quoted was basically the thesis of your entire post–you don’t think people should be waving any flag besides the U.S. Flag, you don’t think the Constitution should apply to non-citizens, you think that if people like a country so much they should live there (as I type that I’m reminded how childish that sounds “if you like her so much why don’t you marry her”).
I’ll check it out.
Nonfactor on May 2, 2007 at 2:46 PM
Exactly, you quoted me out of context. Because that is a very important point, don’t come here and wave your crappy country’s flag while demanding OUR constitutional rights. Guy, this isn’t opinion, this is common f-ing sense! It’s not as simple as “why don’t you marry her” at all, and you’re the only one childish here, because you lack critical thinking skills. It’s a matter of don’t put the flag of your country in my face, in the context of demanding OUR constitutional rights for Mexican criminals, especially when you’re working for a mainstream news organization. I’m not saying they should be waving American flags, they shouldn’t be out in the open protesting at all, because the entire issue is stupid. Hey, why don’t I go out and protest because I want the right to shoot people, or protest because I want the right to deal drugs! Bottom line is, NBC agreed with me and punished their employee.
RightWinged on May 2, 2007 at 3:54 PM
In regard to immigration reform, I’m all for it.
I’m all for reforming the government so that it will actually enforce the laws. I’m all for reforming the process so that an illegal who is ordered deported is immediately taken directly from the court to the border. I’m all for reforming the response so that a second-strike illegal goes to jail, does directly to jail, and never gets out. I’m all for reforming the law so that a baby born in the U.S. does receive American citizenship, but this would have absolutely no effect whatever on the status of it’s parents; let the term “anchor baby” go to the same linguistic boneyard as “buggy whip” and “twenty-three skiddoo”.
That kind of reform, I can support. The “reform” these illegals are demanding is not reform, it is abject surrender.
Rusty Bill on May 2, 2007 at 4:20 PM
pullingmyhairout on May 2, 2007 at 12:17 PM
You agrue against your self.
That is seperatist, not a melting pot.
That is a crock.
Wade on May 2, 2007 at 4:22 PM
I can appreciate trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. As a resident of California, I no longer can. I’d love to take you down to the garment district in Los Angeles and show you all of the shirts proclaiming “la raza” that are for sale. Or show you the signs for radio stations named “Latino” or “Raza.” If it’s not racism, what is it?
PRCalDude on May 2, 2007 at 4:46 PM
Again, no I didn’t. I quoted an entire sentence (and entire point for that matter) and responded to it. If you didn’t want me to respond to that sentence you could’ve left it out.
I refer again to my first post. To be frank, RightWinged, when you make statements like this you sound like a loon. People are free to wave their country’s flag in this country.
Talk about taking things out of context. A guy shows a flag of his country of origin and you take it to mean whatever you want. I’m grinning at how ironic this is.
We’re still talking about cameramen, right? Or did you move on to a separate subject so you could rant for a bit?
I smell a red herring! And by the way, we do have a right to protest (even for the right to do illegal things).
Who’s to say they agreed with you? Maybe they punished the guy (and remember, you don’t even know the punishment) simply to placate people like you who won’t shut up until you know that your complaining did something?
I live in Southern California too and it doesn’t force me to abandon my subjectivity.
I’ve seen the shirts, and by the looks of your post I’m sure they represent something different to you than they do to me. It’s definitely not racism to say “Latino” or “La Raza;” I don’t know how anyone could interpret those words to be racist.
Nonfactor on May 2, 2007 at 8:05 PM
Yeah, well don’t abandon your objectivity either. “The race” isn’t racism??? Have you read MEChA’s charter: “For those in the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing.” Nothing to see there, lol! Just replace ‘latino’ with ‘white’ with all these news posts and see how far your subjectivity goes.
PRCalDude on May 2, 2007 at 8:13 PM
Why don’t we start selling tshirts with the word “caucasian” on them? How about a tshirt that says “The white race”?
It’s rare for me to not give a member here the benefit of the doubt, but you have crossed the line between reason and stupidity.
You, are a stupid a$$.
csdeven on May 2, 2007 at 8:17 PM
Lol! Do a technorati search of ‘la raza’ and see what you turn up.
This site’s my favorite: page 3 of a google search. Look who he’s blaming for his problems:
http://www.aztlan.net/razajews.htm
PRCalDude on May 2, 2007 at 8:30 PM
No worries, ‘la raza’ is all about civil rights: theirs at the expense of everybody else’s.
PRCalDude on May 2, 2007 at 8:33 PM
There is nothing racist about that either. “La Raza” is mainly used for ethnic pride and in no way discriminates against another race. I can’t believe how offended some of you people get.
Nonfactor on May 2, 2007 at 9:44 PM
Not if you’re an illegal alien you don’t. And yes, I had moved on to the issue of others (not just the cameraman) waving the flag, though it’s all related. He’s supposed to be a journalist covering the event, not cheering on illegal aliens who are demanding OUR rights while waving THEIR flag.
Now I have to ask you, are you just employing the usual liberal dishonesty tactics, or are you really as f-ing stupid as your comment implies? In reference to
Where did I say people didn’t have that right? Illegals have no right to be here period, but legal people have the right to do that. But it’s my right, or duty, to point out how f-ing retarded it is, to escape your crappy country, sneak in to ours illegally, then openly demand OUR rights, while waving THEIR flag. Obviously you don’t get it. It’s not like it’s a Mexican Day Parade, or some other Mexican holiday. Are you getting this yet? It’s the venue. If Mexico is so great, why are you here demanding OUR rights? I’m just stunned at the stupidity, so I’m going to have to assume it’s just your liberalism forcing you to be this dishonest, because you have absolutely no point here. Wave flags of your former countries all you want, but it makes absolutely no sense to wave the flag of a country that sucked so bad you had to illegally sneak in to a neighboring one!? Am I getting through here yet Nonfactor?
Oh, and let me get this straight, NBC only punished him because of people like me? Not because they have a policy against that sort of behavior, and needed to act when it was brought to their attention. You can assume this so easily, while at the same time attacking me for assuming that the camerman was flying his flag in support of the illegals, and not just in general to celebrate his heritage? Yeah, I know, it was just a coincidence that he happened to be covering that event, right?
RightWinged on May 2, 2007 at 10:10 PM
What does this have to do with the cameraman? He is a legal U.S. citizen and does indeed have the right to wave the flag from his family’s origin. Why is it “f-ing retarded” to wave a flag out of pride for the country your family came from?
Again, still the cameraman or no? U.S. citizens can wave flags from their country of origin if they wish. If my Scottish friend wants to wave a Scottish flag I don’t care, even if he was illegal I wouldn’t care–show pride in the country generations of your family came from if you want to.
Let me make this as clear as I can for you: You can be proud of your heritage and love the country you live in, and it is your choice to wave whatever flag you want. Get it? This isn’t a “liberal” way of thinking, if anything it’s libertarian.
I didn’t say that’s what they did. I began the sentence with the word “maybe.” You don’t know they “agreed with you” so much as you don’t know they punished the guy simply to placate you.
Nonfactor on May 3, 2007 at 1:00 AM
Dude, you are dancing!!! You either admit you’re a complete retard, or just another dishoneset lib. The point is, this non-partisan cameraman shouldn’t be, in a professional capacity at an ILLEGAL ALIEN rally (where Mexican flags are waved while they demand our rights), waving a Mexican flag. You act as if it’s just by coincidence, and that he probably always has the flag or something. And no it’s not his right, because he’s on the job, and the company says it’s against their policy (as it should be).
If he’s just another guy celebrating his heritage with a flag on the roof of his personal car that’s entirely different than a local mainstream news cameraman waving a flag at an illegal alien rally where Mexican flags are regularly (and without reason) waved.
(here’s where you again play dumb, take a sentence or two out and say that I have a problem with someone celebrating their heritage, as if you don’t really understand the issue here)
RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 2:38 AM
I like how you open your post with two fallacies. Just a side note.
I guess that’s the difference between me and you. I’m not willing to tell U.S. citizens what they should and should not do. And apart from that I’m not assuming (like you) that the reason the cameraman was waving this flag was in support of illegal immigrants or amnesty, and if he was I wouldn’t care, just as I wouldn’t care if a cameraman had a Republican or Democratic sticker on their camera–it’s a cameraman for crying out loud.
Who are you to say what’s within reason?
RightWinged, you’ve called me either stupid or retarded at least four times in this post. It’s pathetic.
Nonfactor on May 3, 2007 at 11:10 AM
Well, I’ve repeatedly explained that there’s no reason to wave a Mexican flag at an illegal alien rally, when people hated that country so bad that they illegally snuck in to ours. There is NO REASON for them to do this.
No, I’ve said your position requires that you are one of the two… your pick.
RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 3:50 PM
That’s a non-answer. I ask who are you to say what’s within reason and you simply restate that there is no reason to do something. Something may have reason to somebody else that you may not see.
What this boils down to me believing that U.S. citizens can wave a flag if they want to regardless of whether I agree with them or not and you believing that U.S. citizens shouldn’t be able to do something if you don’t agree with it (and not just that, but assuming that there is no reason to do something if you don’t agree with it). You’re not even taking a right or left position you’re taking a totalitarian position.
Nonfactor on May 3, 2007 at 5:44 PM
You’re still ignoring the point about the venue so why do I bother repeating it? And you’re also playing the liberal victim card acting as if I’ve said they “can’t” or don’t have the “right” to wave whatever flag they want. It’s my right/duty to point out that it’s stupid and makes no sense to wave a flag of a country that sucked so bad you had to leave it and illegally sneak in to another!? Can I repeat this 100 more times for you? I don’t care if they fly the flag off of their car, or on a Mexican holiday, or whatever. But don’t come to my country illegally, demand my rights, and wave your shi**y country’s flag (again, shitty by the waver’s definition, or they would have had to flee).
RightWinged on May 3, 2007 at 7:42 PM
I see the problem here: I’m staying on topic and talking about the cameraman (who didn’t think his country was “so bad you had to leave it and illegally sneak in to another”) and you’re off-topic. Let me remind you that the man who was waving the flag was an American citizen just as my Scottish friend I mentioned in the first post I made and I believe they have a right to wave what flag they wish and it isn’t up to me to judge what is “stupid” or “unreasonable.”
This discussion is over.
Nonfactor on May 3, 2007 at 8:42 PM
Nonfactor, how many times do you have to go in the same circle pretending to be stupid, when you’re really just living up to your responsibility as a liberal to be shockingly dishonest. He may be an American citizen and have every right to wave the flag (AS I’VE REPEATEDLY SAID!), but why would it make any sense to wave it at a rally where illegals are known to wave it while demanding American rights. He’s clearly showing which side of the issue he’s on, which is unethical for starters. But it’s also stupid. HOW MANY F-ING TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU IT’S THE VENUE!? Stick a bumper sticker on your car or hang a flag from your car radio antenna, or off your apartment balcony if you feel like it… But why the hell would you show up at a rally for Mexicans who break our laws and want to demand our rights, waving a Mexican flag, celebrating that crappy country they escaped. I’m not going off topic when I talk about the other people, because despite the fact that he’s supposed to be there in a professional capacity, he’s there showing his support for law breakers who for no reason (that makes any sense) wave Mexico’s flat at these events.
RightWinged on May 5, 2007 at 1:29 AM
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