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	<title>Comments on: Rotund Oracle Update: proven wrong about whether fire can melt steel, RO cites John Kerry for her defense</title>
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		<title>By: Liberty or Death</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty or Death</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 04:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The way she sniffles - she’s so gross. That lady nodding her head in agreement with so much nonsense, precious. And her head being cut off most of the time…

I can’t believe I watched this. Good thing the comments there are closed. 

Entelechy on May 1, 2007 at 12:32 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree entelechy, I couldn&#039;t take watching the whole thing, it was sickening!  Those trolls behind &quot;Jabba-the-Hut&quot; knodding in agreement to all her ignorant drivel, obviously their paycheck is more important to them than integrity, but then again they&#039;re probably too ignorant to know the difference between BS and the truth!  

All the while queen bee Jabba is sniffling and snorting like a pig, I found myself wanting to yell, &quot;sueey...sueey...here piggy piggy..&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The way she sniffles &#8211; she’s so gross. That lady nodding her head in agreement with so much nonsense, precious. And her head being cut off most of the time…</p>
<p>I can’t believe I watched this. Good thing the comments there are closed. </p>
<p>Entelechy on May 1, 2007 at 12:32 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree entelechy, I couldn&#8217;t take watching the whole thing, it was sickening!  Those trolls behind &#8220;Jabba-the-Hut&#8221; knodding in agreement to all her ignorant drivel, obviously their paycheck is more important to them than integrity, but then again they&#8217;re probably too ignorant to know the difference between BS and the truth!  </p>
<p>All the while queen bee Jabba is sniffling and snorting like a pig, I found myself wanting to yell, &#8220;sueey&#8230;sueey&#8230;here piggy piggy..&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 4shoes</title>
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		<dc:creator>4shoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 16:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you ever saw a blacksmith at work, say making a horseshoe, you know he has to heat the metal to make it more pliable. The smith puts the iron into the fire (until it glows), and it’s still quite solid. But it’s less hard at high temperatures, easier to bend into shape with a hammer.

So it is with steel. At near room temperature, steel resists bending, keeping its shape under heavy loads. In buildings, the steel is typically strong enough to hold 50% more load than its worst-case scenario. But when heated high enough, but still below its melting point, the steel can lose more than half its strength. And if the steel (as in beams) were forced to handle more than its normal load, say by the loss of other beams from a jumbo jet smashing into the building, the total strength left in the beam may be insufficient for the load.

This is why the towers fell. Nothing had to melt.

stonemeister on April 30, 2007 at 10:12 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re exactly correct stonemeister. 
I&#039;d like to add, steel doesn&#039;t just melt, in a coal forge it can actually burn, it oxidizes to nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you ever saw a blacksmith at work, say making a horseshoe, you know he has to heat the metal to make it more pliable. The smith puts the iron into the fire (until it glows), and it’s still quite solid. But it’s less hard at high temperatures, easier to bend into shape with a hammer.</p>
<p>So it is with steel. At near room temperature, steel resists bending, keeping its shape under heavy loads. In buildings, the steel is typically strong enough to hold 50% more load than its worst-case scenario. But when heated high enough, but still below its melting point, the steel can lose more than half its strength. And if the steel (as in beams) were forced to handle more than its normal load, say by the loss of other beams from a jumbo jet smashing into the building, the total strength left in the beam may be insufficient for the load.</p>
<p>This is why the towers fell. Nothing had to melt.</p>
<p>stonemeister on April 30, 2007 at 10:12 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re exactly correct stonemeister.<br />
I&#8217;d like to add, steel doesn&#8217;t just melt, in a coal forge it can actually burn, it oxidizes to nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: drunyan8315</title>
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		<dc:creator>drunyan8315</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 14:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is &quot;really NOT a refernce to Kate Smith&quot; - that&#039;s what I meant to say, dammit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is &#8220;really NOT a refernce to Kate Smith&#8221; &#8211; that&#8217;s what I meant to say, dammit.</p>
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		<title>By: drunyan8315</title>
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		<dc:creator>drunyan8315</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 14:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it about time for this fat lady to sing?

You see, that catch-phrase is really a reference to the late Kate Smith singing at sporting events, it is about Brunhildde, who sings farewell amid the consuming flames of her funeral pyre in the final scenes of Wagner&#039;s &quot;The Valkyrie&quot;.  Yeah, the chick in the horned helmet and brass bra that appears in virtually every cartoon about opera.

RO could go out in a blaze of glory in a steel mill!!  Oh, the irony.

Disclaimer: my knowledge of opera and German spelling is shakey, but sufficient for these purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it about time for this fat lady to sing?</p>
<p>You see, that catch-phrase is really a reference to the late Kate Smith singing at sporting events, it is about Brunhildde, who sings farewell amid the consuming flames of her funeral pyre in the final scenes of Wagner&#8217;s &#8220;The Valkyrie&#8221;.  Yeah, the chick in the horned helmet and brass bra that appears in virtually every cartoon about opera.</p>
<p>RO could go out in a blaze of glory in a steel mill!!  Oh, the irony.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: my knowledge of opera and German spelling is shakey, but sufficient for these purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: SicSemperTyrannus</title>
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		<dc:creator>SicSemperTyrannus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 13:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much better</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much better</p>
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		<title>By: SicSemperTyrannus</title>
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		<dc:creator>SicSemperTyrannus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 13:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK the fake tags didn&#039;t work - let&#039;s try this:
[truther on]
Didja notice the tanker explosion/bridge collapse was in Nancy Pelosi’s district? Coincidence? I question the timing!
[truther off]
[Pat Robertson on]
Just as God smote the Philistines, He smote the City by the Bay! 
[Pat Robertson off]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK the fake tags didn&#8217;t work &#8211; let&#8217;s try this:<br />
[truther on]<br />
Didja notice the tanker explosion/bridge collapse was in Nancy Pelosi’s district? Coincidence? I question the timing!<br />
[truther off]<br />
[Pat Robertson on]<br />
Just as God smote the Philistines, He smote the City by the Bay!<br />
[Pat Robertson off]</p>
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		<title>By: SicSemperTyrannus</title>
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		<dc:creator>SicSemperTyrannus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 13:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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Didja notice the tanker explosion/bridge collapse was in Nancy Pelosi&#039;s district? Coincidence? I question the timing!


Just as God smote the Philistines, He smote the City by the Bay!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didja notice the tanker explosion/bridge collapse was in Nancy Pelosi&#8217;s district? Coincidence? I question the timing!</p>
<p>Just as God smote the Philistines, He smote the City by the Bay!</p>
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		<title>By: silenced majority</title>
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		<dc:creator>silenced majority</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 09:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having a bad case of insomnia this a.m. so I logged on to catch the latest headlines.  Why?, why Bryan did you have to post that horrific vid of Ro &amp; pals, I may never sleep again!  Every time I shut my eyes all I see are those things looking back at me.  And Ro&#039;s comment on having 6 beers on &quot;date night&quot; sent me into a perpetual shudder.

Medication...I need medication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having a bad case of insomnia this a.m. so I logged on to catch the latest headlines.  Why?, why Bryan did you have to post that horrific vid of Ro &amp; pals, I may never sleep again!  Every time I shut my eyes all I see are those things looking back at me.  And Ro&#8217;s comment on having 6 beers on &#8220;date night&#8221; sent me into a perpetual shudder.</p>
<p>Medication&#8230;I need medication.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 09:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I just couldn’t resist mentioning this. You don’t have to “melt” steel to weaken it. Melting means changing steel’s physical state from solid to liquid. However, solid steel has different properties at different temperatures, while still not being melted.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m sure that you could explain this to her in detail for hours on end, and her reaction would be something like, &quot;Well, the Bushies let the Bin Laden family fly out of the country.  Google it,&quot; in spite of the fact that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.factcheck.org/article294.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Richard Clarke&lt;/a&gt; approved their exit.  The facts don&#039;t really matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I just couldn’t resist mentioning this. You don’t have to “melt” steel to weaken it. Melting means changing steel’s physical state from solid to liquid. However, solid steel has different properties at different temperatures, while still not being melted.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that you could explain this to her in detail for hours on end, and her reaction would be something like, &#8220;Well, the Bushies let the Bin Laden family fly out of the country.  Google it,&#8221; in spite of the fact that <a href="http://www.factcheck.org/article294.html" rel="nofollow">Richard Clarke</a> approved their exit.  The facts don&#8217;t really matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Speakup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speakup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 05:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If fire can&#039;t melt steel then I guess Rosie eats ice cream with her hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If fire can&#8217;t melt steel then I guess Rosie eats ice cream with her hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 04:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way she sniffles - she&#039;s so gross. That lady nodding her head in agreement with so much nonsense, precious. And her head being cut off most of the time...

I can&#039;t believe I watched this. Good thing the comments there are closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way she sniffles &#8211; she&#8217;s so gross. That lady nodding her head in agreement with so much nonsense, precious. And her head being cut off most of the time&#8230;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe I watched this. Good thing the comments there are closed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tantor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 04:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously the Bay Area Bridge was brought down by controlled demolitions and then a tanker truck set alight on it just to embarass Rosie the Rocket Scientist.

Rove is just that evil.

Everyone knows steel is impervious to fire.  It is bent by massaging it, just like Uri Geller used to do to bend them there spoons.

Do I have to explain EVERYTHING to you people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously the Bay Area Bridge was brought down by controlled demolitions and then a tanker truck set alight on it just to embarass Rosie the Rocket Scientist.</p>
<p>Rove is just that evil.</p>
<p>Everyone knows steel is impervious to fire.  It is bent by massaging it, just like Uri Geller used to do to bend them there spoons.</p>
<p>Do I have to explain EVERYTHING to you people?</p>
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		<title>By: dingoatemebaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>dingoatemebaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 04:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching the whole Rosie blog thing was an unwanted shove into Rosie reality. 
I can&#039;t believe there aren&#039;t more comments on the &quot;blue toilet water&quot;. Such a big opening, so little time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching the whole Rosie blog thing was an unwanted shove into Rosie reality.<br />
I can&#8217;t believe there aren&#8217;t more comments on the &#8220;blue toilet water&#8221;. Such a big opening, so little time.</p>
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		<title>By: csdeven</title>
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		<dc:creator>csdeven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 03:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proof there was no demolition of wtc 7. No warning horn before the blast.</description>
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		<title>By: csdeven</title>
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		<dc:creator>csdeven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 03:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I used to like waffles…

benrand on April 30, 2007 at 7:04 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Welcome to the club. I used to like &quot;The Sound of Music&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I used to like waffles…</p>
<p>benrand on April 30, 2007 at 7:04 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Welcome to the club. I used to like &#8220;The Sound of Music&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Maxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 03:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the case of the Twin Towers, the steel didn&#039;t need to &quot;melt&quot;... that is, it didn&#039;t need to liquefy to lose its strength. It only needed to heat to the point that it lost its rigidity. With the windows knocked out at nearly the top of a skyscraper and the wind blowing through and a jet load of fuel to burn, that was pretty close to being a blast furnace and plenty hot enough to weaken the steel.

Of course, that might be a little too complex for Rosie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the case of the Twin Towers, the steel didn&#8217;t need to &#8220;melt&#8221;&#8230; that is, it didn&#8217;t need to liquefy to lose its strength. It only needed to heat to the point that it lost its rigidity. With the windows knocked out at nearly the top of a skyscraper and the wind blowing through and a jet load of fuel to burn, that was pretty close to being a blast furnace and plenty hot enough to weaken the steel.</p>
<p>Of course, that might be a little too complex for Rosie.</p>
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		<title>By: sonnyspats1</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonnyspats1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 02:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PinkyBigglesworth on April 30, 2007 at 7:53 PM

Ya I wish I read your post first. AAAAAAAAAAAUUUGGGKK MY EYES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PinkyBigglesworth on April 30, 2007 at 7:53 PM</p>
<p>Ya I wish I read your post first. AAAAAAAAAAAUUUGGGKK MY EYES!</p>
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		<title>By: infidel4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>infidel4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 02:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Waffles would be only too happy to have Rosie’s support, even if it means rolling around in the Truther mud with her.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Perhaps he&#039;s hoping to make RO more appetizing by slathering on buckets of wifey&#039;s ketchup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Waffles would be only too happy to have Rosie’s support, even if it means rolling around in the Truther mud with her.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps he&#8217;s hoping to make RO more appetizing by slathering on buckets of wifey&#8217;s ketchup.</p>
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		<title>By: fusionaddict</title>
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		<dc:creator>fusionaddict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 02:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>load-bearing cantilever
google it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>load-bearing cantilever<br />
google it</p>
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		<title>By: stonemeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>stonemeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 02:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just couldn&#039;t resist mentioning this.  You don&#039;t have to &quot;melt&quot; steel to weaken it.  &lt;em&gt;Melting &lt;/em&gt;means changing steel&#039;s physical state from solid to liquid.  However, solid steel has different properties at different temperatures, while still not being melted.  

If you ever saw a blacksmith at work, say making a horseshoe, you know he has to heat the metal to make it more pliable.  The smith puts the iron into the fire (until it glows), and it&#039;s still quite solid.  But it&#039;s less hard at high temperatures, easier to bend into shape with a hammer.

So it is with steel.  At near room temperature, steel resists bending, keeping its shape under heavy loads.  In buildings, the steel is typically strong enough to hold 50% more load than its worst-case scenario.  But when heated high enough, &lt;em&gt;but still below its melting point&lt;/em&gt;, the steel can lose more than half its strength.  And if the steel (as in beams) were forced to handle more than its normal load, say by the loss of other beams from a jumbo jet smashing into the building, the total strength left in the beam may be insufficient for the load.  

This is why the towers fell.  Nothing had to melt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just couldn&#8217;t resist mentioning this.  You don&#8217;t have to &#8220;melt&#8221; steel to weaken it.  <em>Melting </em>means changing steel&#8217;s physical state from solid to liquid.  However, solid steel has different properties at different temperatures, while still not being melted.  </p>
<p>If you ever saw a blacksmith at work, say making a horseshoe, you know he has to heat the metal to make it more pliable.  The smith puts the iron into the fire (until it glows), and it&#8217;s still quite solid.  But it&#8217;s less hard at high temperatures, easier to bend into shape with a hammer.</p>
<p>So it is with steel.  At near room temperature, steel resists bending, keeping its shape under heavy loads.  In buildings, the steel is typically strong enough to hold 50% more load than its worst-case scenario.  But when heated high enough, <em>but still below its melting point</em>, the steel can lose more than half its strength.  And if the steel (as in beams) were forced to handle more than its normal load, say by the loss of other beams from a jumbo jet smashing into the building, the total strength left in the beam may be insufficient for the load.  </p>
<p>This is why the towers fell.  Nothing had to melt.</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 01:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...&quot;&lt;strong&gt;will&lt;/strong&gt; melt&quot;.

(Thinking of this bloated buffoon gives me the shakes.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221;<strong>will</strong> melt&#8221;.</p>
<p>(Thinking of this bloated buffoon gives me the shakes.)</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 01:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If she spontaneously combusts, I predict more than steel with melt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she spontaneously combusts, I predict more than steel with melt.</p>
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		<title>By: RightWinged</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightWinged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 01:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How can such a pile of pigheaded ignorance, a woman who was once incapable of calculating fractions on the air but now passes herself off as an &lt;strong&gt;authority on structural engineering&lt;/strong&gt;, possibly just pass quietly into the night?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You can&#039;t just discount the fact that she &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a world renowned structural engineer.  I hear she builds a mean gingerbread house.  Of course I have no photographic evidence to support this, because according to unnamed sources inside The View, she usually eats the entire house before she&#039;s finished building it, and then smokes a candy cigarette with satisfaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How can such a pile of pigheaded ignorance, a woman who was once incapable of calculating fractions on the air but now passes herself off as an <strong>authority on structural engineering</strong>, possibly just pass quietly into the night?</p></blockquote>
<p>You can&#8217;t just discount the fact that she <em>is</em> a world renowned structural engineer.  I hear she builds a mean gingerbread house.  Of course I have no photographic evidence to support this, because according to unnamed sources inside The View, she usually eats the entire house before she&#8217;s finished building it, and then smokes a candy cigarette with satisfaction.</p>
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		<title>By: unamused</title>
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		<dc:creator>unamused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 01:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.  That vid was just obnoxious.

Can&#039;t we find a way to keep such people off the internet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.  That vid was just obnoxious.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t we find a way to keep such people off the internet?</p>
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		<title>By: Freelancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freelancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 01:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;any longer and I would have started losing losing IQ points&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uh oh...nobody tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>any longer and I would have started losing losing IQ points</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh oh&#8230;nobody tell.</p>
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