Michelle Factor Video: Watch a priest pastor dance on the head of a pin Update: Bumped, highlight reel added

posted at 11:05 pm on April 30, 2007 by Bryan

On The Factor tonight, Michelle interviewed Rev. Walter Coleman, whose United Methodist Church in Chicago is harboring Elvira Arellano, a known illegal alien, as an act of civil disobedience against the enforcement of immigration laws. The boss sought a straight answer out of the Reverend, and he did his best to spin the questions.

Regarding his take on the illegal ID industry, he and other open borders advocates should educate themselves about illegal IDs and their role in 9-11. Immigration is a national security issue.

Ian will have a highlight reel from the rest of the show later tonight.

More (Ian):

Michelle filled in on The O’Reilly Factor tonight and talked about George Tenet, the CIA bumbling 9/11, and the DC Madam case with several guests, including David Frum, Megyn Kendall Kelly, Kirsten Powers, and Juan Williams. I put together a reel highlighting the key parts of each segment.

What was Michelle giving two thumbs down for? Hint: It’s something Michelle, Kirsten, and Juan agree on.


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Quite literally, a protestant minister is not a priest.

Bad headline, there.

Other than that, this guy is a moonbat, of course.

Check out that pschotic’s eyes, man. What?

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The Machine on April 30, 2007 at 9:41 PM

I’ve come to the conclusion that moonbats like him, don’t think. We should stop immigration raids? Why? So 20 million people breaking the law in this country, can be rewarded?

amerpundit on April 30, 2007 at 9:45 PM

That man should be stripped of any church credentials by his denomination. He has failed to promote Christian otrine: “Obey the authorities.” But alas, especially in the mainline churches, disregard for the rule of law and doctrinal discipline is lacking – sure signs that the Lefties are now in charge.
Since these people are all one issue types, one dimensional, and one directional (South to the border)can we pose the question, if Mexicans/Central Americans should not have to conform to American laws, using the defense put out by the Left, how do they counsel American expats residing in other countries, to disobey their host countries, laws and work illegally, too?
Can we all tell Mexico to stuff it, and drive down and take over their neighborhoods and demonstrate against unfair, unjust Mexican immigration laws?
There must be millions of Americans residing right now overseas (not counting the military), working in all kinds of businesses/organizations. Just one problem, many of these countries have horrific jails which deter many from trying to dodge the l;aw.

naliaka on April 30, 2007 at 9:53 PM

conspiracy, harboring a fugitive, accessory, being an idiot…take your pick, he should be arrested.

windbag on April 30, 2007 at 10:00 PM

May God have Mercy on his Soul………….

PinkyBigglesworth on April 30, 2007 at 10:01 PM

I urge everyone to read the reasoned opinion of Illinois State Representative Susana Mendoza (a Mexican, coincidentally) on the ICE raid in her district, which netted 12 criminal arrests of illegal aliens selling forged IDs, and 10 more felony fugitives.

Then, if the mood strikes you, you can contact the representative and ask her why she is more concerned about defending illegal aliens actively engaged in criminal activity in her district than she is about defending the American citizens that live in the district.

Surely there must be some actual citizens in her district?

Jaibones on April 30, 2007 at 10:04 PM

This guy would give aid and comfort to a gang member illegal alien.
His ‘values’ are so out of whack its absurd.
He is a criminal and there is NO honor or family value in that.

Aid the illegal activities, for mostly out of marriage births so the system can support them?
Jesus did NOT support crime, mooching-sloth, anchor babies, aiding and abetting, all that this illegal mother represents.
Lets call for a census and they all have to go back to Mexico to be counted…will the pastor agree to that one?

shooter on April 30, 2007 at 10:05 PM

p.s. Michelle, it’s OK to interrupt these nitwits a little sooner.

shooter on April 30, 2007 at 10:06 PM

Does anyone else think that the moonbat Methodist minister bears an uncanny resemblance to that jerkoff Hernandez that O’Reilly always has on?

Jaibones on April 30, 2007 at 10:06 PM

Part of the problem…., it’s no wonder we can not defend this Nation.

PinkyBigglesworth on April 30, 2007 at 10:06 PM

That man should be stripped of any church credentials by his denomination.

naliaka on April 30, 2007 at 9:53 PM

Dude.

He is in the mainstream of his denomination, the UMC (United Moonbat Church).

Jaibones on April 30, 2007 at 10:13 PM

PS Hawt.

Jaibones on April 30, 2007 at 10:22 PM

Jailbones,

Thanks for the link. I am a member of the United Methodist Church, albeit a small town in Alabama, and this is news to me. None of the members of which I am aware would support this. Not sure that is mainstream, I hope it isn’t.

tdau1997 on April 30, 2007 at 10:22 PM

That minister is seriously misguided. Involving himself and his church in a high profile defiance of the law is not exactly setting a good example. Yes, there is sympathy for woman and her child. The solution is for both of them to go back to where she is a legal citizen.

Michelle did another fine job in front of cables largest audience. I think the question is no longer if but when will she have her own program… Well done, great job!

Zorro on April 30, 2007 at 10:26 PM

Pastor or no pastor, that guy’s a smug bloviating @sshole.

ReubenJCogburn on April 30, 2007 at 10:38 PM

Notice this is on May Day, the big world wide Communist Holiday. A lot of this Pro Illegal alien activity are being incited by Communists. Communism is anti border, believe in one world. Was watching one of the rally organizers doing his Communisitic speeches on John Gibson’s show late this afternoon on Fox, he was ranting about corporations and all, the usual Communistic speech.

In most of the countries where these people are from they demonstrate in mass crowds, which looks like a lot of people but are not the majority, necessarily. The Press will love seeing that large crowd saying “See lots of people are for it” Yes lots of people who shouldn’t be voting. (Did not say can’t vote, because I bet they are cheating in that too).

All in all, this pro illegal alien as the so called guy in the religious uniform is preeching is just another leftwing, Communist issue. I wouldn’t put past to be incited by people like Hugo Chavez and the Cuban Government.

StuLongIsland on April 30, 2007 at 10:39 PM

The problem with Elvira Arellano is not mostly with this cleric, but, as I have written about this particular woman, that ICE has agreed to make churches, mosques, and synagogues, de facto off-limits zones by constantly calling out this church in press statements and then not raiding it and seizing her. Ditto for Congress b/c it continues to refuse to criminalize religious leaders who help illegal aliens (as Tom Tancredo tried to do). The fact is, under US law, churches are not sanctuaries, but ICE has made them so, by refusing to seize and deport her.

Debbie Schlussel on April 30, 2007 at 10:46 PM

Since it’s so horrible for illegal aliens to have children that are automatically US citizens, we should do something about it.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

The question is whether a person who is born to a person in the country illegally is ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ of the country.

Suppose that the wife of the Japanese ambassador gives birth to a child in Washington. The doctrine of diplomatic immunity that recognizes that she and her husband are not entirely subject to the jurisdiction of the United States should logically hold that her child is equally immunized from being a ‘natural-born citizen’ of the US under this language, her uterus acting as sort of an enclave of Japanese jurisdiction. Is it that much of a stretch to say that a person who evaded the jurisdiction of the country in being here might thereby exempt any child born here in the process?

The Monster on April 30, 2007 at 10:48 PM

Pastor or no pastor, that guy’s a smug bloviating @sshole.

ReubenJCogburn on April 30, 2007 at 10:38 PM

And he claims to represent God. I wonder what God will have to say about this…

infidel4life on April 30, 2007 at 10:50 PM

Is there any difference between criminal alien children going into foster care and criminal thieves children going into foster care when either one goes to jail or is deported?
I don’t think so.

That the Pastor can’t answer is more proof that without evoking an emotional response, illegal immigration is just… illegal.

Speakup on April 30, 2007 at 10:53 PM

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

The question is whether a person who is born to a person in the country illegally is ’subject to the jurisdiction’ of the country.

The Monster on April 30, 2007 at 10:48 PM

Monster:

That’s always been my position and those of others–ie., that the person born to an illegal is not subject to the jurisdiction.

However, unfortunately, the courts have held otherwise (ie., against us). There needs to be a new challenge and a significant number of conservative Justices who will agree with our position. And since the man appointing them, supports amnesty and an illegal alien labor supply, that ain’t gonna happen.

But ya never know.

Debbie Schlussel on April 30, 2007 at 11:25 PM

Michelle has SO arrived as a host. It’s nice to see the boss relaxed and having fun sitting in the captain’s seat. “Engage”!

Mojave Mark on April 30, 2007 at 11:38 PM

That man should be stripped of any church credentials by his denomination

The UMC? I don’t think so. They’ve got increasingly lefty in the past 20 years or so, which is why I withdrew my membership in that particular denomination. They’ll probably heap praise and kudos on his head at the next district conference.

Bob's Kid on April 30, 2007 at 11:44 PM

Heh, that was a fun interview. The look on Malkin’s face was great, it read “Yeah OK, great, hardworking people, don’t split up their families, raids bad, ICE evil, heard this all before in every other immigration debate I’ve ever seen, uh huh, yeah, now how ’bout answering the question I asked about illegal immigrant gang member deportation five minutes ago…”

Bad Candy on April 30, 2007 at 11:55 PM

He is in the mainstream of his denomination, the UMC (United Moonbat Church).

Jaibones on April 30, 2007 at 10:13 PM

I was raised in the Methodist church, but left it in the past five years or so. They have slipped too far to the left and their interpretation of the scriptures is suspect to me. Give me a church that preaches the Bible any day.

Mallard T. Drake on April 30, 2007 at 11:59 PM

He is in the mainstream of his denomination, the UMC (United Moonbat Church).

Jaibones on April 30, 2007 at 10:13 PM

I wouldn’t say he’s in the mainstream, then again I’m in a more conservative area. He’s definitely on the left wing, and so far the Methodist Church has maintained that homosexual acts are sinful. But I understand your point. We have some Christians in our denomination of which I will not question their faith, but I do not believe that they have a strong root in the fundamentals of the Christian Faith.

Keljeck on May 1, 2007 at 12:01 AM

defacto sanctuary nation

Great description of our current state of affairs. Outrage anyone?

voiceofreason on May 1, 2007 at 12:18 AM

I watched the whole show, and am not patient enough to watch this highlight reel… Did you include Mike Baker’s crack about the teleportation machine? It actually followed Frum’s important point about the fact that such a device would be necessary for Tenet’s claim about his conversation with Perle were to be true. Anyway, it was interesting to see Baker outside of Red Eye, where he is a surprisingly quick whit (not that he wouldn’t be, but about half the guests aren’t as quick as Gutfeld, Levy, and Schultz, but when Baker is on, it seems like he belongs)

RightWinged on May 1, 2007 at 12:26 AM

Mallard T. Drake on April 30, 2007 at 11:59 PM

Keljeck on May 1, 2007 at 12:01 AM

There were many protestant denominations that sprang from the “holiness movement” that was spearheaded by John Wesley in the 18th century. Although most people associate Wesley with the numerous Methodist denominations, their were many other groups, including the pentecostal/charismatic churches (spawned at the beginning of the 20th century), that ultimately find their roots in Wesley. I find it ironic that of all of these churches that came out of the “holiness movement”, the UMC has (perhaps) “strayed” from Wesley’s original teachings and doctrine MORE than all the rest.

So are my observations accurate?
Go ahead. Tell me that I’m wrong.
(BTW, is their ANY group of Christians participating here on HotAir that I have not yet offended?)

CyberCipher on May 1, 2007 at 12:45 AM

their(sic) — should be there
My bad. My spelling is atrocious (as usual).

CyberCipher on May 1, 2007 at 12:46 AM

Stolen from Thomas Sowell and slightly modified:

Calling an Illegal Alien an undocumented worker, is like calling a Crack Dealer an undocumented pharmacist.

LegendHasIt on May 1, 2007 at 12:53 AM

CyberCipher on May 1, 2007 at 12:45 AM

How about Mormons?

csdeven on May 1, 2007 at 12:59 AM

For The Monster and Debbie Schluessel.

Also, the Supreme Court has never decided and it’s entirely up to the Congress. It will never change, regardless of which party is in power. Both are courting the most powerful minority constituency.

Entelechy on May 1, 2007 at 1:00 AM

So are my observations accurate?
Go ahead. Tell me that I’m wrong.

CyberCipher on May 1, 2007 at 12:45 AM

My reference was to the Evangelical Covenant Church, which has it’s roots in the Lutheran Church. According to this chart, The Covenant Church was part of the Lutheran Reformation, which differed from the Angelican Reformation. The Methodist Church and the Holiness Movement came from the Angelican Reformation.

BTW, I was told that the Covenant Church is one of the few, if only, demoninations to originate in the United States.

Mallard T. Drake on May 1, 2007 at 1:22 AM

So are my observations accurate?
Go ahead. Tell me that I’m wrong.

Your observations are absolutely correct. The United Methodist Church came out of the Weslyan movement, but has largely strayed past that. In fact, we had a United Methodist Pastor come to one of my classes and say that Hell doesn’t exist. Wesley would have most likely disapproved of that. Wesley once said that he did not fear that the people called Methodists would cease to exist, but that they would end up becoming a dead sect. With the form of religion without the power. Clearly in my opinion that is largely what has happened to the United Methodist Church. Talk to the average Methodist, or even a Methodist pastor about the steps the original Methodists took in their spiritual lives and they would probably balk at it. I’m lucky to have had a Methodist pastor who actually read Wesley and agreed with him.

The name Methodist was originally an insult the group later adopted. It refered to how there was a method to their spiritual lives. Every day they’d wake up, pray, do this, do that. It was highly fixed.

I would not say that the Pentecostal or Charismatic churces are Holiness per se, but they do branch off from that movement.

How about Mormons?

The Mormons do not owe their start to any branch of Christianity. It basically started that Joseph Smith started praying to God and God came telling him that all current forms are corrupt. He rejected the religious movements of his day and found no source in them. Mormons are Mormons.

Keljeck on May 1, 2007 at 1:43 AM

(BTW, is their ANY group of Christians participating here on HotAir that I have not yet offended?)

CyberCipher on May 1, 2007 at 12:45 AM

How about Mormons?

csdeven on May 1, 2007 at 1:59 AM

is this woman bathing in the baptismal?

Eeewwww.

Can a church’s tax-exempt status be revoked if they become politically involved?

Black Adam on May 1, 2007 at 8:55 AM

The UMC was out there using the Virginia Tech massacre, calling for more gun control on April 17th, before the bodies had even cooled.

SicSemperTyrannus on May 1, 2007 at 9:24 AM

Once again Michelle did an outstanding job filling in for O”Reilly. She brought that pastor (or whatever he is) to his knees and I don’t mean he was praying or, if he was praying, he was praying that his segment on the show would end quickly.

O’Reilly thinks he is so smart but if he is he had better watch out or Michelle will have his show. And she should!

I’m starting a ‘Michelle instead of O’Reilly’ movement and hope all of you Michelle fans will join in.

OBX Pete on May 1, 2007 at 9:44 AM

Am I missing something?
What’s this about it being not wanting to separate the family from the mother? No one is forcing the family to stay here.

flipflopper on May 1, 2007 at 9:55 AM

Dear friends, I’ll clarify, the horrible man should be stripped, ejected out of the denomination, a traditional tar and feathering would not be inappropriate, but knowing what has become of the UMC, it’s unlikely. Still, there are conservative UMC congregations that remain, but as seen in such denominations as the Presbyterians, the Lefties who go right for the levers of power,when threatened, hunker down in trench warfare, so the decent people, after trying to reform, and lacking a big enough crowbar with which to pry the Lefties out, usually leave.
The UMC in Alexandria, VA was and may still be in the habit of renting out its sanctuary to Muslims for their regular Friday worship. That spoke volumes about how seriously that church governing board took their belief in the God of the Trinity.
This is a callous, cold-blooded Leftie stunt and the media and Left operators should not be permitted to wreck our laws, laws have worked just fine for centuries for people coming in from all countries all over the world.

naliaka on May 1, 2007 at 10:04 AM

I’m starting a ‘Michelle instead of O’Reilly’ movement and hope all of you Michelle fans will join in.

As much as I admire Michelle’s work, I would hesitate to wish for her to have her own show, much less take over from O’Reilly.

Now, this is only judging from a distance, as I cannot say I’ve had the pleasure of meeting Mrs Malkin. But from everything I have read, and everything she has blogged, about the effect of what noteriety she has already on her personal life — the threats against her, her family, and having to relocate and transfer her children to other schools — it seems that these difficulties would only get worse. She also appears to thrive on a certain accessiblity, whether at conventions like CPAC, or other such events, and of not being part of the “celebrity” class.

I make these observations, less out of presumption, then out of genuine sympathy for the situation in which she occasionally finds herself, as well as for her loved ones. It is also tempered by a genuine wish for her continued success in all her endeavors.

It would appear that, in staying her present course, she has found the proper balance, in having a place in the public square, and still being able to maintain a decent family life. Why screw that up just for the risk of being overexposed?

But hey, that’s just me.

manwithblackhat on May 1, 2007 at 10:06 AM

Various Methodists: no offense taken, it seems, and none was intended. As with so many things, it seems like the UMC has some regional flavors. Southern Methodists, like southerners in general, clearly seem to have held on to common sense, Christianity, and tradition much better than your brethren up here in my neck of the Chicago.

Here, the Methodist church did backflips to try and placate a minister who was conducting gay marriages on the north side of Chicago. Happily, they ultimately defrocked him, but it was about a 50 – 50 split. That’s the direction that church is going. As for illegal immigrants, the church hierarchy is unified in their open borders mentality, but then, so is the Catholic Church.

They are also pro-abortion up here, believe it or not. Schism.

Jaibones on May 1, 2007 at 10:06 AM

Hebrews 13:17
17Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you.

Guess the good pastor forgot about this little tidbit in the bible (and a few others). Christ was quite adamant about following the governing leaders. Kind of the render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar’s. The audacity of these pastors is amazing. Christ submitted himself before the law, these pastors think they know more than Christ knew. They serve their own ego’s…not as servants of God.

right2bright on May 1, 2007 at 10:42 AM

I think that church has put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this issue. On the one hand, it would “seem” like the right thing to do since as far as has been told, she is not a criminal per say and is a threat to no one. And since the boy is an American citizen, it would take a pretty heartless bastard to condone the seperation of a youngster from his mother, or to condone sending the boy back to the hell hole of Mexico with his mother.

That said, I wish the various churches of today would attack the murder of the innocent unborn with the zeal that this one is attacking immigration law with by doing what they are doing.

Legally, I believe that the only thing keeping the authorities from simply going in after her is the media spectacle that would be created if they did so.

God help us when we have to debate whether or not to seperate a son from his mother or send them both back to a hell hole of a Country, while at the same time we as a Nation bend over and capitulate to the so called “religion of peace” while their “preachers” openly call for the murder of anyone who stands opposed to Islam, right here on our own shores…

we are indeed filthy sinners, justly deserving of God’s wrath and displeasure.

NRA4Freedom on May 1, 2007 at 10:48 AM

Notice that the pastor in the video clip can’t even seem to look at the camera! He’s a tool, and he knows it. Furthermore, he looks to me to be tired and troubled. If only he could know that he’ll be defrocked.

flutejpl on May 1, 2007 at 11:04 AM

For The Monster and Debbie Schluessel.

Also, the Supreme Court has never decided and it’s entirely up to the Congress. It will never change, regardless of which party is in power. Both are courting the most powerful minority constituency.

Entelechy on May 1, 2007 at 1:00 AM

The S. Ct. hasn’t decided. But other courts have. And it’s never been the decision we want. But, in time, that could change–with the right judges and justices. Don’t look for Bush to appoint those, though.

Debbie Schlussel on May 1, 2007 at 12:11 PM

Mallard:
The Nazarenes started out as methodists but split off in the early Twentieth century because the methodists started acting squirrely.
The split occured in the US.
I’m a Jewish born Nazarene by the way-so I’m baised.lol
Oh-and the United Church of Christ-”Rev” Barry Lynns’ denomination-makes the United Methodists look like Missouri Synod Lutherans in comparision.
Blech.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 1, 2007 at 12:20 PM

think that church has put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this issue. On the one hand, it would “seem” like the right thing to do since as far as has been told, she is not a criminal per say and is a threat to no one. And since the boy is an American citizen, it would take a pretty heartless bastard to condone the seperation of a youngster from his mother, or to condone sending the boy back to the hell hole of Mexico with his mother.

NRA4Freedom on May 1, 2007 at 10:48 AM

You stated the situation as put forth to the public, the woman is not a criminal per se. Well, yes she is, having purposely entered another sovereign nation illegally, and once there, refusing to abide by the laws when confronted with her willful transgression. To have a baby in that country in order to try to take advantage of the country’s laws is a cruel manipulation of her own child’s future happiness. If she has a kid, then she’s using him as a tool to get herself what she wants – or worse, to push a hostile political movement onto another’s country’s citizens. Pretty callous. The church activities here have more to do with enabling (aiding and abetting) wrong than any “justice.”
Here’s some extra to think about:
Mexico’s GDP and GNP and infant mortalities and schooling ratios, childhood vaccinations rates, household income, maternal mortality rates, and a host of other standard indicators of quality of life are waaaay, waaaaaay better than most African countries. When was the last time anyone heard of a famine in any Mexican state, and saw heart-wrenching photos of emaciated Mexicans?

naliaka on May 1, 2007 at 12:29 PM

Michelle looked great, and performed host duties admirably.
O’Reilly has competition, and she will do well when, not if, she gets her own show. IMHO.

tormod on May 1, 2007 at 12:53 PM

Many Americans have never seen abject poverty so selected images of Mexico can seem jarring and provide lots of sympathy points that are used by the Left to excuse people sneaking in over the border. How does Mexico compare with other countries?
Mexico: per capita GDP 2005 data = $6,397
Ranked 98th worldwide infant mortality = 21.69 deaths/1000 live births (USA for comparison is ranked 36th with 6.63 deaths/per 1000 live births)

Mexico is ranked by the World Bank as an “Upper Middle Income Country.”

Compare Mexico’s GDP of $6,397
El Salvador’s $2,301
Guatemala: $2,157
a group of African countries:
Guinea:$421 (inf. mort: 91.82/1000)
Gambia: $281 (inf. mort: 73.48/1000)
Guniea-Bissau: $176 (inf. mort: 108.72/1000)
Ghana: $403 (infant mort: 49.90/1000)
Nigeria: $594 (70.49/1000)
Cape Verde: $1,947 (infant mort: 49.14/1000)
South Africa:$4,507 (62.18/1000)
Angola: $1,309 (192.50/1000 – the world’s worst)
How about India, that booming call-center economy:
GNP: $626 with an infant mortality rate of 57.92/1000)

Seems plain that Mexico ought to be opening its borders to the world’s poor.

Data figures are available at Geography IQ -World Atlas -Rankings Infant Mortality (www.geographyiq.com)
Also United Nations Statistics Division – Demographic and Socia/ Statistics (via – http://www.unstats.un.org)
and also Country classifications at http://www.worldbank.org

naliaka on May 1, 2007 at 1:10 PM

is this woman bathing in the baptismal?

Eeewwww.

There’s not a baptismal – Methodists sprinkle.

Jaibones on May 1, 2007 at 10:06 AM

My parents belong to the UMC in rural North Carolina, they’re still fairly conservative. In Atlanta, the UMC is much as you describe. When my church singles group hosted a debate on abortion, the pro side was presented by a UMC minister.

Quisp on May 1, 2007 at 3:04 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 1, 2007 at 12:20 PM

Good point. The UCC is on the cutting edge of several idiotic positions, along with the Episcopal Church, which is enduring a possible split right now. But the left edge of the UMC is right there with them ideologically.

Jaibones on May 1, 2007 at 3:05 PM

naliaka, I meant criminal per say as in a drunk driver, murderer, whatever as well as being here illegally. If she just came here illegally, it is a mistomener, if she was deported and came back, I believe it then becomes a felony.

Again, I stand by my observation, God help us that we have to discuss this while a satan based religion is again being shoved upon the ignorant world, promoted and defended by liberal minds, in the name of “tolerance”. How blind we all must be.

NRA4Freedom on May 1, 2007 at 6:03 PM

The Machine had my thought too: I looked immeadiately at his face, eyes and demenor and said 1)he drinks, and 2)how shameful to admit you are a Pastor supposedly teaching Scripture. Looser. Big time.

Michele is doing a good job on the factor. Nice of Bill to bring her along like he does. But hey–how about that KP?
sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss she is HOTer every time I see her! She’ll be a biggie too and maybe, just maybe a convert:o)

auspatriotman on May 1, 2007 at 9:27 PM

The “Separation of children and families” talking point is clever and innovative, but a crock of you-know-what!

How often do we hear bleeding hearts say the following when a rapist, a robber, an embezzler, or a murderer is arrested and sentenced to incarceration, thus separating him and his wife and children, and other family members? “Oh, it is just awful that the children will be separated from their family members!”

Nonsense!

When you break a serious law, a law which helps maintain order, economic stability, prosperity, and safety and security as illegal immigration does, it is right and just that the law breakers be dealt with. If families are separated, it is the fault of the criminal, not the fault of the people of the United States, and not the fault of law enforcement.

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time, and think about your children before you break the law and put US citizens in danger.

William

William2006 on May 2, 2007 at 5:32 AM