gmcjetpilot on April 28, 2007 at 5:54 PM

gmcjetpilot – why don’t you tell us what you REALLY think?

I think its about time you get back on your meds!

Dude, come on. Every other city we go, every other video, no matter where I go…I see the same uhh, do dare say it, HOHO…. kahall on April 28, 2007 at 12:36 AM

You are RIGHT, kahall, but when I was young, my parents taught me some basics that are LOST on today’s society: Two wrongs don’t make a right……..Do on to others as they do onto you……..use common sense and THINK before you open you mouth.

Next is REALITY!!! ALL white people, espcially old white men on the radio who have a history, don’t get to call any black person ‘N’ or ‘H’ or ‘B’, especially, especially young 18, 19 and 20 year old girls who are students and happen to be black, espcially ON THE RADIO! Deal with that “loss of free speech”. Call it Karma or just common sense.

As a white person I have to say whites don’t get that WE DON’T GET TO USE ‘N’ word? We don’t get to talk rap crap lyrics in public or especially towards minorities.

I know its free speech! Great SAY IT, say it all day. Call Obama the magic negro or half-rick-american like Rush does, and pretend its just humor. However you know, I know it is thinly veiled racism. People that listen to it and ENJOY it are probably rasist. If you don’t notice than you are not very sensitive to what being Black is in america. I am no expert, but I have a better idea after this. However I am smart enough to know not to talk like 50-cent or DMX as a white guy. Duuh. WHAT GAVE A 67 YEAR OLD WHITE MAN IDIOT OR HIS IDIOT SIDE KICK THE IDEA THEY COULD?

When Dave Chapelle uses the ‘N’ word or makes fun of white people, there is clearly a sense of humor and truth to it, this is saying clearly, THIS IS ALL IN FUN! Bottom line ITS FUNNY!! It has a truth to it that makes whites, blacks, asian and hispanics laugh at stereotypes and bigotry. Lets just say its artfully done.

Imus was just tearing these young girls down AND ITS NOT FUNNY. THAT IS THE UGLY TRUTH, THESE MEN ARE RACIST. LOOK INTO THE MIRROR, WE ALL HAVE BIGOTRY AND PREJUDICE. They just choose to let thier freak flag fly on radio.

NOW RAP CRAP? I hate it, at least 90% of it is the lowest form of hate pretending to be poetry. Some is OK and does not have extreme violence, language and worship of drugs, sex and hate (of woman and law). BUT THIS IS A SEPERATE ISSUE. We are talking about two white men calling young black woman………….. Don’t justify Imus with rap, that is an argument that violates what every 6 year old knows, two wrongs don’t make it right.

Do I think they should be fired? No but its a free market. We “Whites” don’t get to call blacks N, H, B…… and so on. Bottom line: If you are honest and don’t think the skin head producer and Imus have racist tendencies you are kidding your self. That is the ISSUE, many people are STILL OK WITH RASCIST.

gmcjetpilot on April 27, 2007 at 9:16 PM

Dude, come on.
Every other city we go, every other video, no matter where I go…I see the same uhh, do dare say it, HOHO…. ( i love them, those little swirly cakes with pure white fat for filling)
2pac all about u

Sharpton did not get them fired, The Rutgers coach at the press conference with the team did, along with public outrage and the sponsors of the show, aka free market, is what sunk their boat.

The press conference was the tipping point the death nail. If you have not heard the speech the coach gave, elegant, powerful, from the heart, extemporaniously and so moving than you should. (Think about Bush and his oratory skills when you do listen to it…..brother. Also when you listen to her wisdom and think about the pathetic BS that Imus spewed daily, the contrast is stark.)

The old man I’m-A$$ and his skin head white supremacist looking Mr. death producer jerk got what the FREE MARKET GAVE THEM, Pink slips. I THOUGHT CONSERVATIVES EMBRACE FREE MARKET, DEMOCRACY? No? Hey it was totally fair. Shock jocks get fired, Bill Maher of Politically correct lost his show, why? Sponsors. THEY ARE FREE TO SPEND THEIR MONEY AS THEY LIKE. Its a free country. Imus has freedom to speak, like Rosie-O, but than there are responsibilities and ramifications of opening our mother freaking Pie HOLE.

When RUSH Limbaugh did “Obama is a Magic Negro” this week you did not hear much. First he is a white man and most of his audience is white. No one complains the sponsors will keep advertising. No one really Listens to Rush except for Right wing wackos, he is a clown, a comedian spewing his brand of humor. He is not an intellectual, only a self admitted republican water carrier (in his own words). No one expects much or believes him, but Imus had all kinds of powerful people on and his audience was most of DC.

Al Sharpton was irrelevant. The American people said enough you crossed the line.

I mean, is al-Zawahiri worse than, better than or equal to Al Sharkton?

Has Ayaan Hirsi Ali ever thrown a bomb?
Context.

well, somehow that makes al-Zawahiri sound not all that bad, no?
Misha I on April 27, 2007 at 4:09 PM

If we can agree that sharpton is selectively terrorizing people over speech issues, then it is my contention that he is just as bad as al-Zawahiri albeit using a different tactic. The actions either engage in is unacceptable.

Why? What is wrong with the current definition? Are you suggesting the change the meaning of a word or the image it imposes?

Well, the problem is that if we call Al Sharkton a “terrorist”, then using that same term for Ayman al-Zawahiri… well, somehow that makes al-Zawahiri sound not all that bad, no?

I mean, is al-Zawahiri worse than, better than or equal to Al Sharkton? (Rhetorical question).

Lehosh on April 27, 2007 at 11:01 AM

Actually I, and most people, make a distinction between Imus’ joke and Sharptons attacks on free speech.

I’m open to suggestions.

Misha I on April 27, 2007 at 2:10 PM

If you only add a “dash” of salt to the water when you’re cooking pasta, try using a teaspoon, or even as much as a tablespoon. You’ll be surprised at how much flavor it brings out.

Just a suggestion.

Mind you, I’m not saying that you can’t make a good case for calling Al Sharkton’s incitements “terroristic”, because you can, but if we choose to do so, we’re going to have to come up with a new and ever worse term for the likes of Osama bin Laden, Nasrallah et al.

Misha I on April 27, 2007 at 2:14 PM

Why? What is wrong with the current definition? Are you suggesting the change the meaning of a word or the image it imposes?

So you are saying that Al Sharpton causes you to live in an intense state of fear, feeling belittled, worried he will cause you physical injury, need meds to sleep due to worry, and he is a valley girl as well?

Like I said the meaning is diluted when applied with too broad a brush.

Bradky on April 27, 2007 at 12:34 PM

Where in the world did you stretch this to be perpetrated upon me. The terrorism referred to was to CBS. Keep on subject.

Like you said..well like you did not say, that is your opinion and does not make it so. If you want to apply your definition of terrorist to the statement from Bernard, take it up with him.

I was only pointing to facts, I hope you do know what those are, there are different definitions of terror. If you want to ignore that, so be it.

At least in my ever-not-so-humble opinion.

I’m open to suggestions.

Stronger language is OK and some real action would be cool.

I’m not all that surprised by Colmes being on defense for Imus, he’s in the radio industry, he’s one of the few liberal talk radio guys that has made a real career for himself, he knows the Fairness Doctrine is poison for all political talk hosts, and that too much zealotry against radio hosts destabilizes his platform.

Call the good reverend a repellent, malevolent, exploitative, grandstanding race-baiting McCarthyite, by all means, but let’s reserve the “terrorist” label for killers. Otherwise we’re heading into “Christianist” territory with Sullivan.

I’m gonna have to agree with this, and before people start railing against Allah, we should save the word terrorist for actual terrorists or we cheapen the word.

And the St. Andrew comparison is pretty good.

people really need to dial it down on the “terrorist” rhetoric

AP, are you the PC police now? What have we come to? Oh, the humanity.

doriangrey on April 27, 2007 at 12:50 PM

No you miss the point.

Why not just focus on Sharpton’s accountability for hate speech?

So what you are saying is that now because of Islamist terrorist we need to redefine the word terrorist so that you only qualify as a terrorist if you kill people???

That my friend is called revisionism. Oh and maybe you should Google Al’s early career and pay attention to the riot he started and how many people were kill as a result of Al……..

Rock on……….

Stephen M on April 27, 2007 at 12:42 PM

Geez one more to add to the list

All race baiters are terrorists
All Republicans are racists
All Democrats are traitors
All Muslims are evil
All Christians are good

Feel free to add your favorites

And again, a definition of Sully’s Christianist is as mutable as his moods.