Bradky on April 27, 2007 at 12:05 AM

I’ll give you one last chance to engage this like an adult. Otherwise I will deny you the credibility you get when I give you the honor of my conversation. And believe me, you need the credibility.

The point is that, the issue of flag drapped coffins all over the nightly news is an issue the left wants. The right takes the position that the families should have some privacy. NOTHING you have said from the beginning of this has supported anything to the contrary. You have continued to get your panties in a bunch over me.

There is an issue in this thread and it isn’t your tender feelings. Do you think you can control yourself long enough to actually address the real issue or do you still want to make this about how others should kowtow to you because you can’t deal with your personal demons?

csdeven on April 26, 2007 at 9:03 PM

Your old granddad said… LOL now you are trying to sound like Fred Thompson’s character! What a hoot. Are you really over the age of 14?

You have your head firmly buried where the sun don’t shine and are a shill for the party line. That makes you absolutely no different than the “left” you abhor so much.

Moonbats, moonbat lib, etc. Use of labels is your only recourse — intelligent analysis is certainly not your strong suit.

Pretty damn well said………..

Rock on…………

I’m a little old for the jargon of youth today but I think the description above would make you a “tool”, incapable of critical thinking in regard to political issues and a ready parrot of the party line — yes, i think that is accurate.

Bradky on April 26, 2007 at 4:27 PM

Well, aparently you’re not old enough to parse others comments accurately and entirely too parinoid for your own good. Just because you fit the definitions I use, doesn’t mean I am talking about you specifically. My ol’ grandad told me that when you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one that got hit. Well, yer yelping awful loudly dude.

Lets see if you can be edumacated a bit….

Moonbat lib is a phrase that distinguishes between a lib and a moonbat lib. Yet, you take it to mean all libs are moonbats. THAT is your problem, not mine.

But rather than continue to try to smooth over your ruffled feathers, lets get back to the issue at hand…..the bottom line is that having pictures of coffins out there so they can use them as political statements against the war, is a lefties issue. The right want the families left in peace. If you cannot accept that is what you are, then I suggest you sit down and have a real good talk with yourself, instead of projecting your issues onto others.

Yeah, that’s what I figured. You’vge got your mind made up. Thing is, the conservatives aren’t making an issue of it. The moonbat libs are.

csdeven on April 26, 2007 at 1:59 PM

You have your mind made up before an issue even occurs. Conservative = (each word prefaced with always) good, thoughtful, patriotic, sensitive
Liberal = (each word prefaced with always)traitor, whacked out, moonbat, insensitive

I’m a little old for the jargon of youth today but I think the description above would make you a “tool”, incapable of critical thinking in regard to political issues and a ready parrot of the party line — yes, i think that is accurate.

I actually once liked this guy..now he is just a dick.

EnochCain on April 26, 2007 at 12:15 AM

My feelings exactly. There’s a future for him at CNN.

But WTF does his sexual preference have to do with it Hiraghm? That’s just bad form. Go away.

…and the point of this would be:

honora on Ap

That he’s in the closet in more ways than one, that comparing him to Silky Pony is probably an insult to Silky Pony (if possible), and that the closet he’s in politically is a bigger deal than the one he’s in sexually.

Oh, I’m sorry, did I make a connection between sexual deviance and political deviance (aka liberalism)? Gosh…

See above.

honora on April 26, 2007 at 11:37 AM

You have to take responsibility for the words you use. Previously you used the word “hidden” along with accusing Bush of doing so to keep the troops in abstract. This is a lie. The stated position of the administration is to respect the families privacy, and not as a political statement.

You BDS is in full flair up today isn’t it?

Bradky on April 26, 2007 at 11:50 AM

Yeah, that’s what I figured. You’vge got your mind made up. Thing is, the conservatives aren’t making an issue of it. The moonbat libs are.

What is it that divides us in this matter, those of us who feel a family has a right to privacy and those of you who feel the need to see flag draped coffins?

I will address this philosophically: I get the same feeling when I hear that Bush has made Dover off limits to the press that I get when I consider the fact that this is the first major war we have fought with no attendent taxation; in fact we are enjoying a tax cut. Our taxes (my husband and I) are considerably lower than they have ever been.

So what is this costing me as an individual? Absolutely nothing, and that is dead wrong. I have a friend whose son is a Marine who will be going to Iraq. That’s it. So yeah, I think I should be required to look at those coffins. Saw some conservative talking head pontificating: “Freedom isn’t free.” You couldn’t prove it by me.

Honora, I was really hoping for some debate and not a cut and paste article. But thanks anyway.

Glynn on April 26, 2007 at 1:05 PM

I am sick of people making statements, having those statements exposed as false, and then making coy little retreats. You wondered if this policy of not showing the returning coffins was not a Bush policy per se, but had always been thus. You piously commented:

So I am wondering, politely, if all the concern about the flag draped coffins is being used as an excuse by leftists to yet again attack President Bush. And, if so, that’s pretty shameful.

You know what else is pretty shameful? Not admitting your mistake. You’ll note I did not assume I knew your politics, just addressed the inquiry. My mistake.

I think Shep likes boys rather than girls. I’ve suspected it a long time. The only question in my mind was whether he was a log-cabin Republican, or a typical Democrat.

…and the point of this would be:

Furthermore, it should be mandatory that this ceremony be aired on every channel so that everyone can see who is paying the cost for our freedom.

The soldiers in Iraq (and to a lesser extent, Afghanistan) are not paying the cost of our freedom. They’re currently paying the cost of Iraqi freedom (so those wonderful Iragis won’t have to…)

If they were paying the cost of our freedom, Iraq would be largely depopulated, our troops would be Iran, and Syria would be “negotiating” a way to keep our troops from f*ing their women (not that they’d want to….)

OUR freedom is about putting down our enemies and acquiring the resources OUR people need. Not handing democracy on a silver salver to desert trash who deserve neither liberty nor security.

I think Shep likes boys rather than girls. I’ve suspected it a long time. The only question in my mind was whether he was a log-cabin Republican, or a typical Democrat.

Good gawd, if the colonials gave the rebels as much support for their liberty as the Iraqis have given us, we’d have a governor-general running America for the Queen right now.

I believe this topic head is an overreaction.

Conservatarian on April 26, 2007 at 12:31 PM

Do ya’ think?!?! Love your screen name BTW.

These days our soldiers dying in Iraq are victims of terrorists. Yes, victims.

The War against Iraq is over and has been for years. We won that. It is the occupation that has been challenging us for so long. The current war in Iraq is a war against terrorists, not the lawful government. When our boys are killed by terrorists, they are indeed victims of the terrorists in my view.

The word “victim” used by Mr. Smith or by me does not impugn George Bush or the military efforts. At least I certainly do not intend that, and I heard no such intent by Mr. Smith. I believe this topic head is an overreaction.

honora,

Nice work on the quick citations.

What does 7.7 mean?

Scoring, like the Olympics. As a “you’re a crazy liberal and everything bad is your fault and the war isn’t lost but if it is lost it’s your fault and we wouldn’t have kids shooting up campuses if we only had prayer in school God hates fags and Muslims are scum” rant, this one hit some of the high points, got in some nice personal shots, but not very original.

Kinda looks like pointy boobs and a belly button.

Oh honey, don’t I wish!!!

csdeven on April 26, 2007 at 11:37 AM

Don’t bother I get it just fine and am put off by rhetoric such as yours and GMCJetpilot. It is like watching two people look in a mirror and not realize they are the same.

Personally I don’t think there should be a ban on the pictures of caskets coming back. No one’s name is displayed and certainly the bodies are not shown.
But I also feel that in our polarized political climate, too many partisans from both parties use the pictures to make obscene points to buttress their views.

Nice work on the quick citations.

What does 7.7 mean?