Comments on: Extreme heart-ache: Kirkuk cops go upside drive-by suspect’s head

By: Hiraghm

Hiraghm — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:02:08 +0000

No. My point is that lots of other Americans (not me) would be ready to call in the ACLU over an incident like this one if it happened in a place like Los Angeles.

If it happened in Los Angeles, it is still somewhat likely that the “victim” was a U.S. citizen with Constitutional rights. An important distinction nobody (but me) seems willing to make.

I don’t care that the Iraqi cops slap Iraqis around, except that I don’t want there to be any Iraqi cops, certainly no armed Iraqi cops.

What kept going through my mind was the thought, “You can take the barbarian out of Iraq, but you can’t take the barbarian out of the Iraqi.”

By: Kristopher

Kristopher — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:17:00 +0000

Hell … as few as thirty years ago, I watched some Portland police publicly tune up some moron who hit a child in the face with his fist.

People who had witnessed the original incident cheered the police on.

I would rather deal with somewhat rambunctious popo than I would have to deal with a fully militarized SWAT unit.

By: profitsbeard

profitsbeard — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:18:28 +0000

That’s all thick skulls register, some times.

Smacking the bottom, after a certain age, no longer works.

Go for the top.

By: csdeven

csdeven — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:50:30 +0000

Smack em all and let Mam Rostam sort em out!

By: Phil Byler

Phil Byler — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:11:06 +0000

Trust me on this based on my conversations with U.S. Military contacts that I have had: the depicted actions of the Kurdish police in Kirkuk are absolutely necessary. That is what it takes there. Anything less just does not work.

By: BadBrad

BadBrad — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:52:45 +0000

The Kurdish Peshmerga are the shit. They provided some security for us on my last tour. They can be laid back (almost inappropriately) at times and they take some getting used to… but when it comes to dealing with terrorists there is no other Iraqis I’d rather have around. I’ve seen them kick their own soldiers ass that bad when they get out of line… why should they treat their enemies better? Just look at Kurdistan compared to the rest of Iraq… Harry Reid wouldn’t last 5 seconds in the Kurdish government..

By: Texas Gal

Texas Gal — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:52:06 +0000

Worse … they could pink panties on his head and enraged the entire Arab continent!

By: major john

major john — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:41:52 +0000

That wouldn’t even count as a “tune up” by the Chicago PD…

I think Mr. Totten’s point is well made.

By: Mojave Mark

Mojave Mark — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:34:00 +0000

If the Dhems surrender successfully, then the Kurds are toast.

By: doriangrey

doriangrey — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:32:10 +0000

Meh...they should have just shot the little bastard, put an end to his driving people around who shot at inncoent civilians........ Rock on..............

By: Freelancer

Freelancer — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:23:02 +0000

It also used to be acceptable in this country to pop the neighbor’s kid upside the head when you caught him being stupid. Nothing at all wrong with well-measured and well-intentioned child training.

Mr. Totten, thanks for the response, I’m sure it set several things straight here.

By: mjt001

mjt001 — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:57:01 +0000

Oakpack: Good grief. It sounded like Totten was ready to call in the ACLU.

No. My point is that lots of other Americans (not me) would be ready to call in the ACLU over an incident like this one if it happened in a place like Los Angeles.

Lightly slapping a violent punk in a war zone is not something I’m capable of getting upset about when I’m standing in a war zone myself. My immediate concerns were kidnappings and car bombs. I was *in* the war zone. Hand-wringing is for people who watch the war on TV from thousands of miles away.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Michael J. Totten

By: SuperManGreenLantern

SuperManGreenLantern — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:51:18 +0000

This works.

By: EnochCain

EnochCain — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:36:06 +0000

How horrible..they slapped him around..they could have always tied his hands behind his back blindfolded him and tossed him off a four story building.

By: Janos Hunyadi

Janos Hunyadi — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:19:52 +0000

This type of ‘measured restraint” is how a lot of cops in this country used to mete out justice, and some still do.

It has its good points……..

By: Tony737

Tony737 — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:14:14 +0000

Bad boys bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they bitch-slap you?

By: oakpack

oakpack — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:49:01 +0000

Good grief. It sounded like Totten was ready to call in the ACLU. I think the situation was handled perfectly. The police got everything they wanted, and now.
I don’t think any police force from America could handle these people properly. Not with the rules imposed on them here. Iraq is not the United States, and we shouldn’t expect it to be run like so.

By: mainmann

mainmann — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:29:28 +0000

dang old_dawg, chill, i was already feeling bad for this guy, and you wanted him to get beat up so bad. lol. I remember when i was young living in another country(unnamed at this point) Someone stole something from the church, and his head was split open from constant blows (by non-church officials). I really felt bad for the guy, even though he stole something and was confessing to it. I think i ran aways b/c i couldnt stand someone getting mauled in front of me.
This is from someone that enjoys watching Mixed Martial Arts today

By: old_dawg

old_dawg — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:58:26 +0000

The only heart-ache I saw was that they didn’t beat this guy within an inch of his life. That would most likely lead him to reform his ways very quickly.
No one should expect our allies to behave exactly like we would in the same situation. In all truth, the Iraqi (Kurdish) police know how to run their town better than we do.