How is the New York Times like Felix the Cat?
posted at 3:07 am on April 24, 2007 by Bryan
I first asked that question on JYB in January 2006.
Here’s the answer: Whenever the Times gets into a fix, it reaches into its bag of tricks. And its bag of tricks is filled with dishonest reporting and commissioning polls to back up its editorial points of view rather than pursue facts wherever it might lead.
One of its editorial points of view is that gun control measures are always good, and opponents of gun control measures are always bad. A week after the V Tech massacre, the Times reached into its and pulled out the latter trick: Using a poll to push its point of view.
Most Americans are in favor of stricter gun control, but few say it would have done a lot to prevent the shootings last week at Virginia Tech, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll.
Two-thirds of the adults surveyed Friday through Sunday said the laws covering the sale of handguns should be stricter and 27 percent said the laws should be kept as they are now. Only 5 percent said the laws should be less strict.
This question has been asked in the past with similar results. In August 1999, a CBS News poll taken almost four months after the shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado, 64 percent said laws covering the sale of handguns should be stricter. Men and women are equally in favor of making the sale of handguns more difficult. Three-quarters of Democrats support stricter handgun laws, compared with about half of Republicans and 60 percent of independents.
The public does not support banning handguns altogether, the poll found. Thirty-two percent of the public approves of a ban on the sale of handguns, with the exception of thoseneeded for law enforcement, with 64 percent opposed. This is basically unchanged from the last time the question was asked by CBS News in 2000.
Entertainingly, the Times poll post gets excoriated in comments. I hate when that happens. Well, I hate when it happens to me. Some of the commenters note an unscientific ABC poll taken at the same time and came up with the opposite result. It’s unscientific as I said, but it lines up a little better than the Times’ poll does with a couple of known knowns.
First known known, the Democrats as a party are running away from gun control. If the issue is really such a winner as the Times’ poll suggests, wouldn’t they be running as a party to embrace more gun control?
Second known known, 35 states have passed concealed carry laws in the past decade or two. They are passing these laws because they are popular, and these laws are popular because they increase the average citizen’s chances of being able to protect himself with a firearm if he needs to. If the Times’ poll is right, wouldn’t concealed carry be less popular?
What the Times has done here is shoddy work. They have opportunistically fed off of a national tragedy to create, as opposed to report, a story that pushes their point of view, and not truth.










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Swiped this over at idude.org
1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
2.A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
3.Colt: The original point and click interface.
4.Gun control is not about guns; it’s about control.
5.If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?
6.If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
7.“Free” men do not ask permission to bear arms.
8.If you don’t know your rights you don’t have any.
9.Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
10.The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved.
11.What part of “shall not be infringed” do you NOT understand?
12.The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.
13.79,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. (Based on 80 million)
14.Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.
15.Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
16.You don’t shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
17.911 – government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.
18.Assault is a behavior, not a device.
19.Criminals love gun control — it makes their job safer.
20.If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
21.Only a government that is afraid of its citizens, tries to control them.
22.You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.
23.Enforce the “gun control laws” we ALREADY have: Don’t make more.
24.When you remove the people’s right to bear arms, you create slaves.
25.The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.
26.“A government of the people, by the people, for the people…”
- The Cat
MirCat on April 24, 2007 at 3:14 AM
Um, they’re both black and white and remembered fondly by old people?
saint kansas on April 24, 2007 at 4:36 AM
To steal a line from ace, who I’m pretty sure stole it from someone else, “It’s the way they surround a story.”
Sean M. on April 24, 2007 at 5:16 AM
The NYT, Americas’ response to Crow. One page per visit.
Coronagold on April 24, 2007 at 6:35 AM
The NYT (and MSM by extension) exhibit their bias by crappy polls and editorializing the news. But of even greater influence is what they choose not to report.
When was the last time you read about a gun being used to defend someone from murder, rape or robbery?
When was the last time you read a story about Iraqis standing up for themselves and bringing order to their village (as has happened in most of the country)?
When was the last time you read a story about a US soldier earning the Medal of Honor (as has happened)?
When was the last time you read a story about a Democrat’s verbal gaffes (as happens all the time)?
Nope, all you read is how guns (not criminals) are evil, Iraqis a barbarians, soldiers are war criminals and Republicans are dolts.
cmay on April 24, 2007 at 6:49 AM
The NY Slimes is the Marxist propaganda machine. The NRA lets you specifically know who in government (Dums and Republicans) are pro-Second Amendment and who is not. The smarter Dums do not want to be on the “not” list…so much for the Slime’s poll.
lynnv on April 24, 2007 at 7:33 AM
Unless I’m reading the quote wrong, in the last paragraph, it looks to me like 68% of Americans support the sale of hand guns? Even after this incident.
Maybe we should start pushing for more Press Control laws everytime they push for Gun Control laws. The press should be restricted from showing video’s of killers on our public air waves, to help prevent copy-cat crimes. After all, freedom of the press isn’t guaranteed in the Constitution or anything.
Imagine if liberals actually carried guns, they would take shooting their mouth off to a whole new level.
xdwall on April 24, 2007 at 7:39 AM
One primary maxim of war and conquest:
The first step in subjugating a people (or dhimminizing them) is to eliminate their primary weapons of self defense.
Lawrence on April 24, 2007 at 8:33 AM
Will the NYT let me use a gun if I buy lead offsets?
right2bright on April 24, 2007 at 9:10 AM
Wasn’t it President Truman who said that the NYT was run by communists?
In the 50s, they were devout Stalinists. In the 60s, it was Ho Chi Min and Castro. In the 80s, it was Ortega and Noriega. Today, it’s Chavez.
It would appear that the NYT has yet to meet a communists they don’t ‘love’.
The NYT has never had America’s best interest in mind. It will be a great day in America when this propaganda sheet finally meets its demise which, according to those in the know, could be very soon now.
pocomoco on April 24, 2007 at 9:48 AM
If {insert name of any Democrat candidate] had been president the last six years, the New York Times would have declared victory three weeks into the war, applauded the interrogation techniques at Quitmo that led to capturing more Al Qaeda troops, cheered on Homeland Security for keeping us safe for six years since 9/11 and awarded the Secretary of Defense a gold medal for ONLY losing 3000 lives during four years of combat.
fogw on April 24, 2007 at 10:08 AM
NYT: All The Socialist Agenda That’s Fit To Print
infidel4life on April 24, 2007 at 10:40 AM
“Whenever he gets in a fix he reaches into bag of tricks!”
I knew that was going to be the answer when I saw the picture of Felix. That line started instantly running through my brain.
Now I will have to listen to it most of the day.
moc23 on April 24, 2007 at 10:43 AM
“Whenever they get in a fix, they reach into their bag of tricks?……your heart will go pita-pat?”
Hening on April 24, 2007 at 11:22 AM
NYT, best for wrapping fish.
Kini on April 24, 2007 at 12:31 PM
The New York Times is getting desperate. Their profits are way down. Their readership (and advertising income) is dropping. They called me here in Illinois last week trying to sell me a subscription.
Far-leftist Sulzberger has ruined the “franchise” his family created. So, I’ll just say: “boo-freakin’-hoo!”
georgej on April 24, 2007 at 1:41 PM