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	<title>Comments on: SF Chronic: Oakland Pizzeria Owner &#8220;Tragically&#8221; Shoots Armed Robber</title>
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		<title>By: Liberty or Death</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty or Death</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is just ridiculous…even if it’s not surprising.

New Motto for CA (well, not really new, per se):
The Nut Magnet State 

tickleddragon on April 21, 2007 at 5:07 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I call it &quot;The land of fruits and nuts&quot; or the &quot;People&#039;s Republic of California&quot; myself.

I&#039;m 44 and grew up in the Bay Area (East Bay) before moving to Arizona in 1993.  In addition, I currently work for a chemical company whose corporate office is located just down the street from where this occured (a stones throw from the Oakland Coliseum).

Whenever we have visitors to our corporate office that are from out of town we always tell them if possible to stay at a hotel in a nearby city outside of Oakland, and when they leave our facility to never under any circumstances turn right into the heart of Oakland.

I can&#039;t count how many times when I lived in Oakland and commutted to work seeing young (Junior High and High School age) Oakland residents leaving their homes carrying shotguns and rifles, with lord knows what else concealed!  

The police in Oakland will not say publicly what they would like as someone pointed out they need to &quot;tow-the-line.&quot;  But I can tell you from experience and having known several Oakland police officers they will flat out tell you privately the only reason they are in some of these Oakland areas if because they have a gun!

I also quite vividly remember going to a Kentucky Fried Chicken outlet in Oakland one day and ordering my meal through a full wall of bullet proof glass with the clerks safely behind it...they slid my meal to me in a special drawer that closed behind to further protect the clerks!  I have never seen such a thing at a KFC before or since, but then again unlike the People&#039;s Republic of California Arizona allows its citizens to carry concealed with the proper licensing, and we can also carry out in the open with very few restrictions...it&#039;s a very good deterent!

The City of Oakland has fallen in line with Berkley and SF, they are a bastion of ultra-liberalism and PC gone amok to say the least and it&#039;s a wonder there are any companies willing to run their business within that state considering all the rights it bestows on what I call the &quot;entitlement employee.&quot;  These entitlement employees as I call them seriously belive they are entitled to be paid just to show up for work (when they feel like doing so) and to ask them to actually perform their job duties is tantamount to discrimination as far as the bleeding heart liberals in California are concerned!

It wouldn&#039;t surprise me in the least if the State and/or City of Oakland will try to get Boonie&#039;s surviving family memebers State death benefits or if he had survived workers compensation, after all, the poor disadvantaged Boonie was merely trying to earn a living when he was brutally and tragically killed on the job and his family is therefore entitled to some sort of compensation!

If not compensation from the State of City, you can bet Boonie&#039;s family will sue the law-abiding restaurant owner Piedra who&#039;s merely trying to make an HONEST living!   

I for one do not miss living in The People&#039;s Republic of California and am glad I only have to go there on business...and yes...I do not stay in Oakland and I don&#039;t turn right when leaving our facility!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is just ridiculous…even if it’s not surprising.</p>
<p>New Motto for CA (well, not really new, per se):<br />
The Nut Magnet State </p>
<p>tickleddragon on April 21, 2007 at 5:07 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I call it &#8220;The land of fruits and nuts&#8221; or the &#8220;People&#8217;s Republic of California&#8221; myself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 44 and grew up in the Bay Area (East Bay) before moving to Arizona in 1993.  In addition, I currently work for a chemical company whose corporate office is located just down the street from where this occured (a stones throw from the Oakland Coliseum).</p>
<p>Whenever we have visitors to our corporate office that are from out of town we always tell them if possible to stay at a hotel in a nearby city outside of Oakland, and when they leave our facility to never under any circumstances turn right into the heart of Oakland.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t count how many times when I lived in Oakland and commutted to work seeing young (Junior High and High School age) Oakland residents leaving their homes carrying shotguns and rifles, with lord knows what else concealed!  </p>
<p>The police in Oakland will not say publicly what they would like as someone pointed out they need to &#8220;tow-the-line.&#8221;  But I can tell you from experience and having known several Oakland police officers they will flat out tell you privately the only reason they are in some of these Oakland areas if because they have a gun!</p>
<p>I also quite vividly remember going to a Kentucky Fried Chicken outlet in Oakland one day and ordering my meal through a full wall of bullet proof glass with the clerks safely behind it&#8230;they slid my meal to me in a special drawer that closed behind to further protect the clerks!  I have never seen such a thing at a KFC before or since, but then again unlike the People&#8217;s Republic of California Arizona allows its citizens to carry concealed with the proper licensing, and we can also carry out in the open with very few restrictions&#8230;it&#8217;s a very good deterent!</p>
<p>The City of Oakland has fallen in line with Berkley and SF, they are a bastion of ultra-liberalism and PC gone amok to say the least and it&#8217;s a wonder there are any companies willing to run their business within that state considering all the rights it bestows on what I call the &#8220;entitlement employee.&#8221;  These entitlement employees as I call them seriously belive they are entitled to be paid just to show up for work (when they feel like doing so) and to ask them to actually perform their job duties is tantamount to discrimination as far as the bleeding heart liberals in California are concerned!</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me in the least if the State and/or City of Oakland will try to get Boonie&#8217;s surviving family memebers State death benefits or if he had survived workers compensation, after all, the poor disadvantaged Boonie was merely trying to earn a living when he was brutally and tragically killed on the job and his family is therefore entitled to some sort of compensation!</p>
<p>If not compensation from the State of City, you can bet Boonie&#8217;s family will sue the law-abiding restaurant owner Piedra who&#8217;s merely trying to make an HONEST living!   </p>
<p>I for one do not miss living in The People&#8217;s Republic of California and am glad I only have to go there on business&#8230;and yes&#8230;I do not stay in Oakland and I don&#8217;t turn right when leaving our facility!</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Telegraph Video: Taliban Ambush Goes Tragically Wrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Telegraph Video: Taliban Ambush Goes Tragically Wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It goes &#8220;tragically&#8221; wrong in the same sense that Oakland pizzeria shooting was a tragedy. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It goes &#8220;tragically&#8221; wrong in the same sense that Oakland pizzeria shooting was a tragedy. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ropera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ropera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nuke San Francisco!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nuke San Francisco!</p>
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		<title>By: SPIFF1669</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPIFF1669</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wait, the loving &quot;family&quot; of Boonie will sue Piedra. Bet money on it.  And the sad fact is they&#039;ll get it.

I &lt;strike&gt;love&lt;/strike&gt; liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wait, the loving &#8220;family&#8221; of Boonie will sue Piedra. Bet money on it.  And the sad fact is they&#8217;ll get it.</p>
<p>I <strike>love</strike> liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: mojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &quot;rapper&quot; shot dead in an attempted holdup in E. Oaktown? Hell, that&#039;s not news, it&#039;s par for the course.

I&#039;m just surprised the SF Cankle bothered reporting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;rapper&#8221; shot dead in an attempted holdup in E. Oaktown? Hell, that&#8217;s not news, it&#8217;s par for the course.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just surprised the SF Cankle bothered reporting it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tantor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Holmgren said, “We’re not saying that we want citizens to go out there and arm themselves and take the law into their own hands. We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects.” &lt;/strong&gt;

That doesn&#039;t sound like a cop.  It sounds like a union steward for the criminal profession trying to enforce safety rules for his members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Holmgren said, “We’re not saying that we want citizens to go out there and arm themselves and take the law into their own hands. We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects.” </strong></p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t sound like a cop.  It sounds like a union steward for the criminal profession trying to enforce safety rules for his members.</p>
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		<title>By: ar_basin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ar_basin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this like Bernie Goetz?

&lt;em&gt;We didn&#039;t start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world&#039;s been turning
We didn&#039;t start the fire
No we didn&#039;t light it
But we tried to fight it &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this like Bernie Goetz?</p>
<p><em>We didn&#8217;t start the fire<br />
It was always burning<br />
Since the world&#8217;s been turning<br />
We didn&#8217;t start the fire<br />
No we didn&#8217;t light it<br />
But we tried to fight it </em></p>
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		<title>By: Ivory Dome &#187; Leftists Weep for Madmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivory Dome &#187; Leftists Weep for Madmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Even when small time criminals being killed or injured liberals feel sorry for the offender. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Even when small time criminals being killed or injured liberals feel sorry for the offender. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doghouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doghouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 00:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Where do you see the word “Tragically” in this story?

Right in the middle of the quote at the top here.

&quot;The lives of the two men intersected tragically at about 9:30 p.m.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Where do you see the word “Tragically” in this story?</p>
<p>Right in the middle of the quote at the top here.</p>
<p>&#8220;The lives of the two men intersected tragically at about 9:30 p.m.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: daveintexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>daveintexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Defending yourself and your family from armed thugs is not &quot;taking the law into your own hands&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defending yourself and your family from armed thugs is not &#8220;taking the law into your own hands&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: CanaryinaCoalMine</title>
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		<dc:creator>CanaryinaCoalMine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 20:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do you see the word &lt;strong&gt;&quot;Tragically&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; in this story?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do you see the word <strong>&#8220;Tragically&#8221;</strong> in this story?</p>
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		<title>By: DANEgerus</title>
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		<dc:creator>DANEgerus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should Piedra have allowed &quot;Allen Joseph Hicks III, 22, was an accused batterer on probation for a drug conviction&quot; to make the decision as to whether Piedra, his wife and three children should live? 

“There are no winners in this whole case,”?!?

When &quot;Allen Joseph Hicks III, 22, was an accused batterer on probation for a drug conviction&quot; committed suicide-by-crime we all won.

How many more victims were in his future?

&quot;Gun Control&quot; = &quot;Criminal Free Zones&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should Piedra have allowed &#8220;Allen Joseph Hicks III, 22, was an accused batterer on probation for a drug conviction&#8221; to make the decision as to whether Piedra, his wife and three children should live? </p>
<p>“There are no winners in this whole case,”?!?</p>
<p>When &#8220;Allen Joseph Hicks III, 22, was an accused batterer on probation for a drug conviction&#8221; committed suicide-by-crime we all won.</p>
<p>How many more victims were in his future?</p>
<p>&#8220;Gun Control&#8221; = &#8220;Criminal Free Zones&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: duff65</title>
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		<dc:creator>duff65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the kid&#039;s at Virginia Tech were supposed to be good at taking notes also.  Too bad that most of them are dead.

In most of the country the guy gets a metal.  In the bay area they may actually bring him up on charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the kid&#8217;s at Virginia Tech were supposed to be good at taking notes also.  Too bad that most of them are dead.</p>
<p>In most of the country the guy gets a metal.  In the bay area they may actually bring him up on charges.</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread is not one to defend the paradise California is, no matter how one expresses that; also, I don&#039;t intend to be defensive, or to hijack the thread, and apologize to all, ahead of time.

&lt;blockquote&gt;California has pockets of paradise on Earth. The rest of the State is insane liberalism. 

Gregor on April 22, 2007 at 1:58 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gregor, yes, Oakland is an &#039;infested nest&#039;. Driven through it. However, I&#039;ve lived in North San Diego for a long time and still benefit from Prop 13 (a true miracle in &#039;insane liberalism&#039;), the sanity of the naval town SD and surroundings is/are, the wonderous climate, location, technology, research, people. Having been all over the world and around the U.S. numerous times, nothing beats landing in SD and seeing the Coronado bridge. 

Often, during business visits I&#039;ve heard rants against California, around the country, from folks who&#039;ve never been here. I mostly just let it be. Calif. comes up with many weird &#039;first&#039; ideas but I don&#039;t find it as liberal and crazy, in general, as it is portrayed, due to Berkeley, SF and Hollywood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread is not one to defend the paradise California is, no matter how one expresses that; also, I don&#8217;t intend to be defensive, or to hijack the thread, and apologize to all, ahead of time.</p>
<blockquote><p>California has pockets of paradise on Earth. The rest of the State is insane liberalism. </p>
<p>Gregor on April 22, 2007 at 1:58 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Gregor, yes, Oakland is an &#8216;infested nest&#8217;. Driven through it. However, I&#8217;ve lived in North San Diego for a long time and still benefit from Prop 13 (a true miracle in &#8216;insane liberalism&#8217;), the sanity of the naval town SD and surroundings is/are, the wonderous climate, location, technology, research, people. Having been all over the world and around the U.S. numerous times, nothing beats landing in SD and seeing the Coronado bridge. </p>
<p>Often, during business visits I&#8217;ve heard rants against California, around the country, from folks who&#8217;ve never been here. I mostly just let it be. Calif. comes up with many weird &#8216;first&#8217; ideas but I don&#8217;t find it as liberal and crazy, in general, as it is portrayed, due to Berkeley, SF and Hollywood.</p>
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		<title>By: elgeneralisimo</title>
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		<dc:creator>elgeneralisimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This thing had potential — who knows where the suspects were going to take the situation?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Who cares ? 

At what point in US history did its citizens subjugate their well being to the whims of those who would indulge their baser predatory instincts ?

&lt;blockquote&gt;But by no stretch of the imagination are we agreeing with or justifying what the owner did.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Abrogation of self-defense has been the cornerstone of all totalitarian forms of government and the antithesis of the principles and laws upon which this nation was founded. Perhaps officer Holmgren, who has taken a sworn oath to uphold those very same laws, misspoke himself ?

Or perhaps not...

&lt;blockquote&gt;We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

elgeneralisimo&#039;s Platitude Interpretor© translates that as: victims, some of which may be deceased and therefor not so chatty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This thing had potential — who knows where the suspects were going to take the situation?</p></blockquote>
<p>Who cares ? </p>
<p>At what point in US history did its citizens subjugate their well being to the whims of those who would indulge their baser predatory instincts ?</p>
<blockquote><p>But by no stretch of the imagination are we agreeing with or justifying what the owner did.</p></blockquote>
<p>Abrogation of self-defense has been the cornerstone of all totalitarian forms of government and the antithesis of the principles and laws upon which this nation was founded. Perhaps officer Holmgren, who has taken a sworn oath to uphold those very same laws, misspoke himself ?</p>
<p>Or perhaps not&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects.</p></blockquote>
<p>elgeneralisimo&#8217;s Platitude Interpretor© translates that as: victims, some of which may be deceased and therefor not so chatty.</p>
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		<title>By: drjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>drjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Ain&#039;t no telling why that shooting occurred.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

There ain&#039;t?

Seems to me there is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Ain&#8217;t no telling why that shooting occurred.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>There ain&#8217;t?</p>
<p>Seems to me there is.</p>
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		<title>By: Viper1</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/21/sf-chronic-oakland-pizzeria-owner-tragically-shoots-armed-robber/comment-page-2/#comment-372176</link>
		<dc:creator>Viper1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of building a fence on the Mexican border perhaps it would be better to build one around SF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of building a fence on the Mexican border perhaps it would be better to build one around SF.</p>
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		<title>By: Romeo13</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/21/sf-chronic-oakland-pizzeria-owner-tragically-shoots-armed-robber/comment-page-2/#comment-372167</link>
		<dc:creator>Romeo13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a sec here... just hit me...

How is an &quot;an accused batterer on probation for a drug conviction&quot; out on the street in the first place???

Should not he be in jail as being accused of battery should have revoked his probation??? or at least have denied him bail???

Now I am confused...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a sec here&#8230; just hit me&#8230;</p>
<p>How is an &#8220;an accused batterer on probation for a drug conviction&#8221; out on the street in the first place???</p>
<p>Should not he be in jail as being accused of battery should have revoked his probation??? or at least have denied him bail???</p>
<p>Now I am confused&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DavePa</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/21/sf-chronic-oakland-pizzeria-owner-tragically-shoots-armed-robber/comment-page-2/#comment-372146</link>
		<dc:creator>DavePa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;“...We’re not saying that we want citizens to go out there and arm themselves and take the law into their own hands. We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects.”&lt;/em&gt;

The shooting has left &lt;strong&gt;two &lt;/strong&gt;families traumatized, Holmgren said. “There are &lt;strong&gt;no winners&lt;/strong&gt; in this whole case,” he said.

No winners?  Mr. Piedra and his family are alive, unharmed &lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt; unrobbed. As a practical working definition of &quot;winner&quot;, that works for me.  

What other mentality can you expect from the &quot;law enforcement&quot; &quot;authorities&quot; in the thoroughly leftist district that sent Barbara Boxer to Congress, term after term. Their intellectual and moral degeneration is wide and deep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“&#8230;We’re not saying that we want citizens to go out there and arm themselves and take the law into their own hands. We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects.”</em></p>
<p>The shooting has left <strong>two </strong>families traumatized, Holmgren said. “There are <strong>no winners</strong> in this whole case,” he said.</p>
<p>No winners?  Mr. Piedra and his family are alive, unharmed <strong>and</strong> unrobbed. As a practical working definition of &#8220;winner&#8221;, that works for me.  </p>
<p>What other mentality can you expect from the &#8220;law enforcement&#8221; &#8220;authorities&#8221; in the thoroughly leftist district that sent Barbara Boxer to Congress, term after term. Their intellectual and moral degeneration is wide and deep.</p>
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		<title>By: drjohn</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/21/sf-chronic-oakland-pizzeria-owner-tragically-shoots-armed-robber/comment-page-2/#comment-372089</link>
		<dc:creator>drjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Allen Joseph Hicks III, 22, was an accused batterer on probation for a drug conviction and an aspiring rap artist....&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Isn&#039;t this kind of redundant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Allen Joseph Hicks III, 22, was an accused batterer on probation for a drug conviction and an aspiring rap artist&#8230;.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this kind of redundant?</p>
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		<title>By: csdeven</title>
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		<dc:creator>csdeven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;to be good report-takers&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The only report they&#039;re gonna get from me is the report of my S&amp;W 1911 .45 cal pistol.

&lt;strong&gt;**BLAMO!!!!**&lt;/strong&gt;

Hows that for a report?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>to be good report-takers</p></blockquote>
<p>The only report they&#8217;re gonna get from me is the report of my S&amp;W 1911 .45 cal pistol.</p>
<p><strong>**BLAMO!!!!**</strong></p>
<p>Hows that for a report?</p>
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		<title>By: Mooseman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mooseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be surprised if they don&#039;t look to press charges against Mr. Piedra for illegal discharge of a firearm. The DA sounds like she comes from Cambridge, MA (home of Harvard U) and could look at pressing charges for violating the perp&#039;s civil rights.

I salute Mr. Piedra&#039;s actions, he was protecting himself and his family from scum who was fully capable of harming both.

Mooseman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be surprised if they don&#8217;t look to press charges against Mr. Piedra for illegal discharge of a firearm. The DA sounds like she comes from Cambridge, MA (home of Harvard U) and could look at pressing charges for violating the perp&#8217;s civil rights.</p>
<p>I salute Mr. Piedra&#8217;s actions, he was protecting himself and his family from scum who was fully capable of harming both.</p>
<p>Mooseman</p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This guy was a SPOKESMAN 

Neocon Peg on April 21, 2007 at 8:39 PM

&lt;/blockquote&gt;Huh? He is their spokesman. If the police don&#039;t like what is being said they should change their spokesman.

Main Entry: spokes·man 
Pronunciation: &#039;spOks-m&amp;n
Function: noun
Etymology: probably irregular from spoke, obsolete past participle of speak
: &lt;strong&gt;a person who speaks as the representative of another or others often in a professional capacity &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This guy was a SPOKESMAN </p>
<p>Neocon Peg on April 21, 2007 at 8:39 PM</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Huh? He is their spokesman. If the police don&#8217;t like what is being said they should change their spokesman.</p>
<p>Main Entry: spokes·man<br />
Pronunciation: &#8217;spOks-m&amp;n<br />
Function: noun<br />
Etymology: probably irregular from spoke, obsolete past participle of speak<br />
: <strong>a person who speaks as the representative of another or others often in a professional capacity </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Freelancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freelancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 10:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DS = DA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DS = DA</p>
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		<title>By: Freelancer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/21/sf-chronic-oakland-pizzeria-owner-tragically-shoots-armed-robber/comment-page-1/#comment-371524</link>
		<dc:creator>Freelancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 10:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;SF also has a DA that has announced that she will not seek the death penalty under any circumstances (except possibly a cop killing). 

crosspatch on April 21, 2007 at 4:55 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll do some looking, but I believe the San Francisco DS had very specifically said even a cop killing wouldn&#039;t move her to seek a death penalty. Maybe if you threw some ham at the local mosque and yelled an ethnic slur, but otherwise no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>SF also has a DA that has announced that she will not seek the death penalty under any circumstances (except possibly a cop killing). </p>
<p>crosspatch on April 21, 2007 at 4:55 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll do some looking, but I believe the San Francisco DS had very specifically said even a cop killing wouldn&#8217;t move her to seek a death penalty. Maybe if you threw some ham at the local mosque and yelled an ethnic slur, but otherwise no.</p>
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