The case of the hateful ham
posted at 10:40 am on April 20, 2007 by Bryan
Takeaway: This is where “hate crimes” legislation gets us. Second takeaway: This is where the inherent and credible threat of violence gets Muslims.
LEWISTON – One student has been suspended and more disciplinary action could follow a possible hate crime at Lewiston Middle School, Superintendent Leon Levesque said Wednesday.
On April 11, a white student placed a ham steak in a bag on a lunch table where Somali students were eating. Muslims consider pork unclean and offensive.
The act reminded students of a man who threw a pig’s head into a Lewiston mosque last summer.
The school incident is being treated seriously as “a hate incident,” Levesque said. Lewiston police are investigating, and the Center for the Prevention of Hate Violence is working with the school to create a response plan.
This incident didn’t happen in a vacuum. Last August, a man rolled a pig’s head into a Somali mosque in Lewiston. But prior to that, according to a commenter on the SunJournal site reacting to this story, Somalis attacked apartments and cars with acid (apparently the SunJournal didn’t report on that, because I can’t find a story about it–it either didn’t happen or it’s down the media memory hole). And prior to that, white supremacists paraded around and acted like fools over the arrival of the Somalis. The mayor of Lewiston asked Somalis to stop moving to town 5 years ago, because their swift influx was maxing out the city’s resources. CAIR has been hovering over the situation the whole time. But note out of all of this behavior, the only group that actually got violent was within the Somali community (and that’s also the hardest to find any reportage of). White supremacists have been irrelevantly ranting for years. Kids have been mean to other kids forever. Acid attacks are new though.
Surely no one pondering hate crimes legislation ever thought that a slice of ham laying on a table would ever be considered a hate crime, with suspensions, the Center for the Prevention of Violence getting involved, the works. Hate crimes legislation was originally intended to add penalties to those who commit violence for some specific racial, ethnic or sexual orientation reason. Yet here we are, enforcing penalties on children when there has been no underlying crime committed.
It seems clearer by the day that Robert Ferrigno’s novel Prayers for the Assassin, in which the US has become a land ruled by black-robed menaces wielding sharia across society, may have been prescient. Little by little, sharia law is creeping in. There are occassional pushbacks, such as in Minnesota over the Muslim cab drivers who have refused passengers 4,800 times for wanting to transport alcohol or dogs with them in taxis. But for every pushback, there’s at least one setback. The kids at Lewiston Middle School have been taught a lesson: Don’t offend Muslims, intentionally or otherwise, in any way.
These kids in that school will grow up with this incident in mind, an incident in which secular authorities bowed to religious dictates, and idiotic ones at that, and instituted de facto Islamic law in an American public school. On the flip side, the Maine Humanities Council has made sure that the Somali side of the story in Maine gets enshrined via a small state grant. Separation of church and mosque*, anyone? Or is everyone still too busy worrying about Jerry Falwell and the so-called Christianists?
* Bryan’s shooting on location at the moment but he called to ask me to note here that he meant to say “mosque and state.” (AP)










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Doesn’t a hate crime actually have to involve a crime?
Putting some ham on a table full of Muslims might be considered hate, but it’s hardly a crime…so how can this be a hate crime?
JaHerer22 on April 20, 2007 at 10:46 AM
I wonder if the school would be refering to this non-incident as a “hate crime” if the ham had been left at a table of orthodox Jewish students?
Or is it only a crime when it happens to over-sensitive little muslims?
Then again-Jewish Students wouldn’t have cared.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 20, 2007 at 10:46 AM
Why not just accept our new muslim masters gracefully? Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid declared our defeat to the islamists yesterday. To the victor belong the spoils. Get ready for your new, wonderful life.
pistolero on April 20, 2007 at 10:48 AM
no one ever expects… the Hammish Imposition!
stevezilla on April 20, 2007 at 10:49 AM
First they came for the bacon,and I did not speak out, as I don’t like bacon. Then they for they dogs, and I did not speak out, as I don’t have a dog. Then they came for the beer, and man was I pi**ed…..
HerrMorgenholz on April 20, 2007 at 10:50 AM
Next time someone puts a mushroom on my pizza, I’m screaming hate crime!
I asked for no lettuce on my big mac. Hate crime!
lorien1973 on April 20, 2007 at 10:52 AM
Stevezilla and HerrMorgenholz:
LOL!
annoyinglittletwerp on April 20, 2007 at 10:52 AM
That’s not the only instance, Bryan. Remember this one?
http://forums.premiere.com/movie/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=14346
The mormon got in trouble for saying “that’s gay” but the person who used a religious insult was not punished at all.
Seems gays and muslims have more rights (not to be offended) than others do.
lorien1973 on April 20, 2007 at 10:54 AM
This sort of thing has been brewing for months, if not longer.
This story provides a good background on the issues involved. A lot of is is simple Yankee resentment over higher taxes:
Coming down hard on these kids will not help Somali-Lewiston relations at all. If anything, the extreme reaction by the school and the state is only fanning the flames.
Slublog on April 20, 2007 at 10:55 AM
OMG! You’ve gotta love this paragraph:
I’m sure they struggled to go on living.
Gregor on April 20, 2007 at 10:57 AM
And don’t forget last week’s bacon boondoggle in Tennessee.
Quisp on April 20, 2007 at 10:59 AM
Once had a Muslim where I worked and the guy was always smiling and got along well with everyone and one day the boss ordered one of those party subs at Subway and it had ham on it. The Muslim got real angry and started threatening everyone and saying bin laden gave us what we deserved. He was fired soon after.
Perchant on April 20, 2007 at 11:03 AM
it’s now a crime to put meat on a table? was he beating someone with the ham? using the ham as a supressor on a gun? i don’t understand.
ok, so when are the sane people going to start running this nation again?
sarahk on April 20, 2007 at 11:03 AM
Oh my God … ham is a hate crime. So does that make a chocoalte Jesus, the crucifix in urine and the elephant crap Virgin Mary a hate crime as well?
darwin on April 20, 2007 at 11:08 AM
Can’t you see? I’m on my lunch break…mabye later?
CBarker on April 20, 2007 at 11:09 AM
Are you serious?
Bryan on April 20, 2007 at 11:10 AM
I can’t believe the west is so damn timid and scared to fight back against these Muslim p-ssies. If they can’t handle a little bit of ham and bacon, how in the world would they ever stand up to an angry and motivated Western world that actually chose to fight back in the current clash of civilizations?
This is more wuss than the Democrats being able to stand up to Fox News.
thirteen28 on April 20, 2007 at 11:11 AM
I thought this was going to be another post about Rosie.
jdpaz on April 20, 2007 at 11:16 AM
Notice that sharia is creeping into blue states first. Create a vacuum, watch nature fill it. Fun with socio-dynamic certitude!
spmat on April 20, 2007 at 11:16 AM
So then are the “Darwin fish” I see on the backs of cars every day a “hate incident” also? They are openly mocking a symbol of my religion.
Dave Shay on April 20, 2007 at 11:17 AM
What is the statute of limitations on a crime like this? I must confess that in my younger days I committed the same offense. Would there be any additional charges if the bag containing the ham also yielded an apple & a couple Twinkies?
DJ Dubya on April 20, 2007 at 11:18 AM
Mmmmmm……so I guess a BLT would’ve been a capital offense?
Steve LLamabutcher on April 20, 2007 at 11:18 AM
Not to mention baco-bits shot out of a confetti canon….
Steve LLamabutcher on April 20, 2007 at 11:20 AM
sounds like the good ol’ usa has found a new weapon to fight al qeada …. start dropping ham butts across the middle east,
ferryriders on April 20, 2007 at 11:22 AM
Well this is just devastating. Look we need to contact Honey Baked Hams® and send all the offended parties a present. If you are offended because some 12 year old leaves a ham steak on your table leave the country. Go back to Somalia where the sharia police will shoot you for watching soccer or listening to music. If you are real luck you will get to see some Ethiopians up claose and personal. Go back to your stone age cesspool of a country and quit sponging off of my tax dollars and soft headed liberals.
LakeRuins on April 20, 2007 at 11:23 AM
Coming next: Bacon no longer permitted in restaurants for fear of offending Muslims. And, Chief Dhimmi Pelosi has tag-teamed with Sheik Mohammed al-(enter Arabic name here), to throw all Republicans and freedom-loving people, out of the country. News at 11.
Cue car bomb sounds. 5th Daily prayer begins.
amerpundit on April 20, 2007 at 11:25 AM
How long until one of the school reps decides that in the interest of ‘tolerance’ the school should become a ham free zone….
Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on April 20, 2007 at 11:26 AM
I brought Ham and swiss to work today, do you think Im committing a “Hate Crime” because there are Muslims in the building?
Viper1 on April 20, 2007 at 11:26 AM
Well we have the answer to Islamic fascism. Let’s all start wearing crosses made out of ham and alcohol.
LakeRuins on April 20, 2007 at 11:28 AM
Ya know, the Winkler(sp?) murder was all over the news yesterday, too, and the reference was always made to “the Preacher”, or the Christian minister or the “minister’s wife”. No hesitation whatsoever to bring in facts that for all intents and purposes are irrelevant to the story. I see a huge double-standard here that is not being emphasized nearly enough. Imagine the egg-walking if the victim was an abusive Imam. I bet not a word of his religious affiliations would be mentioned for fear of reprisals. We are wimps.
aqvik on April 20, 2007 at 11:28 AM
Wouldn’t work. It would just turn into a portable snack.
Mmmmmmmm….ham…
Slublog on April 20, 2007 at 11:31 AM
Yes, whenever a Christian (or non-Muslim) commits a crime, the religious identification always seems to find itself into the story. If a Muslim does, even if the act was for his religion, it’s always a “troubled youth” or just “youths”.
amerpundit on April 20, 2007 at 11:32 AM
Was there any evidence of abuse, other than her testimony? In her initial confession, didn’t she just state that she killed him because he criticized the way she dressed and walked and was upset because she got drawn into a Nigerian money scam?
After seeing her smug smiling in the courtroom, I wouldn’t assume he was abusive. I’m not saying he wasn’t, but she shot him in the back while he lay in bed. Twice, right? Why not run off in the middle of the night instead?
And maybe you’re not assuming Matthew Winkler was abusive, but that’s what it sounded like in your comment. Sorry, I’m overly sensitive on this subject.
sarahk on April 20, 2007 at 11:36 AM
How will those poor Somali kids ever recover without a guest spot on Oprah?
Dusty on April 20, 2007 at 11:40 AM
From now on I’m keeping a slice of ham in my pocket.
icelandicfarmer on April 20, 2007 at 11:42 AM
Now we really will see a ham sandwich indicted!
(I stole that from an LGF commenter)
shooter on April 20, 2007 at 11:42 AM
Makes me think of Imus.
What Imus did, and what this kid did, were simply rude. They werent crimes, they werent the end of the world, and they werent hateful.
They were hurtful, and in bad taste. This kid, like Imus, needs to be scolded. Not fired, not expelled, not branded as a criminal (that’s a word that comes from the word “crime”).
I have no love lost for Muslims, but this was in very poor taste. It is in no better taste than putting a crucifix into a jar of urine. Not that that is a hate crime, of course.
Labamigo on April 20, 2007 at 11:47 AM
I wonder if the smell of ham works on uppity muslims like Indian Love Call did the aliens in Mars Attacks!
Bad Candy on April 20, 2007 at 11:47 AM
Hey it’s Friday!! Not presenting a new MKH video is a hate crime!!!!!!!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on April 20, 2007 at 11:48 AM
So to recap the CAIR offensive so far this year
1) Weird beards acting funny on a plane, No problem
2) Cabbies refuse to transport passengers with alcohol, Suck it up
3) Kid leaves ham sandwich in facility designed for eating, The sky is falling
4) Sunni on Shiite, Fatah on Hamas, violence kills hundreds and thousands, just a little expression of freedom of religion.
And you think Cho is crazy????
LakeRuins on April 20, 2007 at 11:51 AM
Well, well, well……the islamo-facists have taken a page from the liberals PC guide to societal takeovers.
Complain about extreme silly things to create a worse case senario and fool the masses into thinking anything less than that is as good as we can get so we might as well accept it.
csdeven on April 20, 2007 at 11:53 AM
Ok, show of hands. How many thought this story was going to be about something MKH said or did when you first read the headline?
*raises hand*
Benaiah on April 20, 2007 at 11:54 AM
Here’s a question… if the person instead pulled up a chair, opened his lunch, and maliciously at the ham steak at them, would it be less or more of a hate crime, than simply tossing his bag of lunch at them?
Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on April 20, 2007 at 11:56 AM
Nope, saw it on Fark first.
Bad Candy on April 20, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Yes, and if all of the people who sat out of the elections last time complaining about lack of quality Republican Candidates do so in ’08, maybe we will get lucky and have people like Mr. Reid running all three branches. This will just be the start.
jman on April 20, 2007 at 11:58 AM
Clearly, Mary Katherine’s name itself is now a hate crime. Kevin Bacon has some issues, too.
Blacklake on April 20, 2007 at 12:00 PM
Along with metal detectors, schools will now have ham sniffing dogs to identify individuals trying to smuggle hams into the schools.
csdeven on April 20, 2007 at 12:00 PM
No, you can’t do that–dogs are offensive to Muslims, too. (Is it possible Mohammed predicted that they’d someday they’d be able to detect explosives? Hell, maybe he was a prophet!)
Blacklake on April 20, 2007 at 12:01 PM
Mary Katharine Ham needs to immediately change her name. Apparently it is hateful and hurtful to some in the Muslim community. May even be a hate-crime.
Sorry Mary….
jman on April 20, 2007 at 12:03 PM
Maybe a ham sniffing camel then?
csdeven on April 20, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Yes. I guess he couldn’t just peel the ham off, it had turkey on it too. It escalated to threats after I was giving him a hard time about the initial whining tantrum.
Perchant on April 20, 2007 at 12:16 PM
When I was in college back in the late 70′s, I lived in a University run co-op (kind of like a fraternity without the greek name) with about 60 other guys. One of my housemates was a Muslim from Iraq whose name was (no kidding) Muhammad Ali. Muhammad was about 5’2″ and weighed all of 110 lbs, I was 6’1′ and 185. Several of us were in the kitchen one Saturday morning getting some breakfast and we were talking about a Bible study group that was starting up in the house. I mentioned that I was attending and that it was open to anyone who wanted to come.
Suddenly, old Muhammad started screaming at me something about “You stupid Christians!” and threw a glass of milk in my face. I grabbed the front of his shirt and literally lifted him up in the air and pinned him against a wall, fully intending to inflict substantial pain on the little creep. However, my beliefs got the best of me and I simply said “Right now you can thank God that I am a Christian, otherwise you’d be spending the next few days in the hospital”, then I set him down and left.
At the time, it seemed like such a bizarre incident to have someone fly off the handle like that over nothing. Over the past several decades, I’ve learned just how overly sensitive members of this religious group are and just how often their reactions are ones of violence, indignation and lashing out. I wonder when the other 50% of our country is finally going to figure out just how whacked out these folks are?
Fatal on April 20, 2007 at 12:17 PM
YIKES! Those are some scary-a$$ stories guys.
csdeven on April 20, 2007 at 12:20 PM
Muslim followers only do what the imams tell them to do in the mosque. It is no coindence(sp) that most major riots / street scenes occur on Friday. They (Moslems) put 150% loyalty into these rabble rousers, most of whom use the power of the religion to hold onto power. So any insult or slight against them is an insult or grievance directed at their holy figures. The only thing that kept Al Sadr from getting a 30 caliber kiss was the title “Shiite cleric” and hiding in a mosque. If he had tried that shit on the streets of NYC it is very likely a cop would have ended his rantings quickly.
LakeRuins on April 20, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Pretty soon they’ll be suing Piggly Wiggly, citing “emotional hardship.”
SisterToldjah on April 20, 2007 at 12:34 PM
In Lewiston is got to be 80-90%. Have you read the comments?
brtex on April 20, 2007 at 12:36 PM
if the intention was because they were muslim then yeah that’s a hate crime
Defector01 on April 20, 2007 at 12:40 PM
It might be a hateful act, but it’s not a hate crime. There is a major difference, and in using that specific term, the school and state are defining crime down.
Slublog on April 20, 2007 at 12:45 PM
So if, say, a Richard Dawkins book were left on a table where a Christian group was going to meet, would that be a hate crime? And I don’t ask the question rhetorically. I’m honestly curious as to whether and how there would be a legal distinction.
Blacklake on April 20, 2007 at 12:48 PM
Here’s another one to ponder…
Entelechy on April 20, 2007 at 12:53 PM
So, what exactly was the crime? There has to be a crime. Is placing a piece of ham on a table a crime? Is offending someone a crime? Is being mean a crime? Is “hating” a crime?
There’s no crime, therefore no hate crime.
Gregor on April 20, 2007 at 12:57 PM
I cannot even count the number of times I’ve been insulted simply because I was a Christian. I’ve been called every name in the book, had pink triangles platered all over my car, had “darwin fish” stuck on my locker, photocopies of “Piss Christ” stuck in my books, etc.
I guess that means there are a whole lot of criminals running around out there who should have been held responsible for their “hate”?
We are quickly and surely moving towards punishing “thought”, Orwell was a prophet.
Fatal on April 20, 2007 at 12:58 PM
LMAO!!!
Best comment ever (from the original story)…
Gregor on April 20, 2007 at 1:03 PM
I hope the kids parents sue the school into bankruptcy.
Deport the Muslims.
Government education = child abuse.
Dave R. on April 20, 2007 at 1:05 PM
Poor Muslims.
I’m a Christian who was born Jewish.
Between the two faiths I’ve been called everything you can imagine.
Do the poor babies want some pasta with that WHIIIINE?!
annoyinglittletwerp on April 20, 2007 at 1:07 PM
That’s just it, the legislation could very well make something like this a crime.
Rick on April 20, 2007 at 1:11 PM
What happened to “When in Rome, do as the Romans do” – or are Rome and tolerance just for Americans abroad?
Just to be clear, I’m not advocating that Muslims eat ham, just that they’d be as tolerant of this country’s customs, and other people’s preferences, as they demand for theirs.
Entelechy on April 20, 2007 at 1:12 PM
And here I thought this was going to be something about MKH – damn you Bryan, for getting my hopes up.
Rick on April 20, 2007 at 1:16 PM
Good Grief, it’s not a gun or a knife. It’s just meat. Get over it!
CliffHanger on April 20, 2007 at 1:25 PM
Each time I read a story about the extent of muslim community hipocrisy, I feel like exploding. They are extremely lucky that I prefer peace.
After 9/11, everything seem to move towards their direction, which is very troubling. Koran said that they should not eat pork, not be afraid to look at. As far as hate crime legislation is concerned, the whole thing is garbage.
Ouabam on April 20, 2007 at 1:25 PM
But it was uncovered meat!
LakeRuins on April 20, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Surely a Ham Nation is on the way about this.
John on April 20, 2007 at 1:34 PM
Pork is as American as Apple Pie. It’s in everything in our culture. So maybe immigrants, especially muslims, need to take note that in our country, to which they want to adopt, eats all kinds of pork products. Don’t forget Jewish culture forbids pork also, but not to the extreme of refusing to price check the bacon. As Emeril Lagasse would say:
PORK FAT RULES BABY
Kini on April 20, 2007 at 1:34 PM
Truely we are moving from Political Correctness to political heavy handedness towards certain speach.
You can threated to kill Bush or Insult Christians but dont dare offend the left else they will come after you.
We are in danger when any minority gets to define what is and isnt hate speech.
William Amos on April 20, 2007 at 1:37 PM
Carne Rosada.
James on April 20, 2007 at 1:39 PM
When ham sandwiches are outlawed, only outlaws will have ham sandwiches.
Tantor on April 20, 2007 at 1:40 PM
Read this as they all go on welfare. The school district I work at has very interesting issues with Somalis. I think the majority should get sent back because of all the problems they cause.
1. We have a 15 year old girl who teachers suspect of being raped. Her parents and “husband” insist it isn’t rape since she is “married” to the guy. The school’s lawyer (and supposedly the government lawyers) decided since she is married it isn’t statutory rape. I can’t help but ask if they would be so open to the Mormons in Colorado City…
2.The strange thing is that she is dropped off by a guy who has two different women in his van both the same age, all wearing traditional head coverings. (In other words it is suspected he is “married” to multiple wives.)
3. She is utterly disfunctional around men. Lashes out for them.
4. I recently had a faculty member tell me that Somali girls represent the largest number of pregnancies, more than all other races combined.
5. An agnostic Somali friend of mine just sold his convience store. He specialized in selling to Somalis across the street from the Mosque. He said his biggest income was from those EBT cards (Foodstamps) of Somalis.
Tim Burton on April 20, 2007 at 1:41 PM
If that ham-hock gets raped, it is its own fault.
Kristopher on April 20, 2007 at 1:41 PM
I heard they prefer cheese…
Tim Burton on April 20, 2007 at 1:43 PM
Can’t have that. Must.Cover.The. Meat.
Rick on April 20, 2007 at 1:43 PM
Applying for welfare should be a deportable offence for non-citizens.
Kristopher on April 20, 2007 at 1:44 PM
The Muslims will have to pry that BLT FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!
Tantor on April 20, 2007 at 1:44 PM
Why don’t they just indict the ham sandwich like they do in Durham?
bloggless on April 20, 2007 at 1:50 PM
Let’s see any other religion get that kind of protection from “offensive” behavior.
drjohn on April 20, 2007 at 1:53 PM
Well said, Dr John. If I see Somalis eating any kind of meat on Friday, THAT IS A HATE CRIME AGAINST CATHOLICS!
Tantor on April 20, 2007 at 1:55 PM
When I was in grade school, they used to serve meat in the cafeteria on Fridays during Lent. Now I find out that not only was it a hate crime, but it was obviously premeditated. Those menus were made up a month in advance!! Who knew????????
bloggless on April 20, 2007 at 1:56 PM
Tanto,
We Catholics think alike, eh?
bloggless on April 20, 2007 at 1:56 PM
This comment from that site is so funny I had to post it here:
Posted By:Rick at April 19, 2007 9:48 AM (Suggest Removal)
The real problem here is that these students were able to walk right into a grocery store and buy a ham steak. Here in the state of Maine, there is no waiting period before one can purchase a ham. Maybe this is a good time to bring forth some legislation on strict ham control laws.
drjohn on April 20, 2007 at 1:57 PM
Yes, we should all lobby for ham control.
bloggless on April 20, 2007 at 1:58 PM
They always knew – bastards. Where’s my legislation?
Rick on April 20, 2007 at 1:58 PM
If being near pork or ham is ofensive, is it similarly offensive to be near someone who just eaten pork or ham?
drjohn on April 20, 2007 at 1:59 PM
Like the Rutgers women’s basketball player who was “scarred for life” over the effluence that dribbled out of Don Imus’ mouth, everyone’s a victim.
Don Imus can call me whatever the hell he wants to. It means nothing. He’s a fool. But, oh, that scar tissue. What an effing crock.
nico on April 20, 2007 at 2:00 PM
Is that like a Commandment?
“Thou shalt not be around ham“
bloggless on April 20, 2007 at 2:02 PM
bloggless: “When I was in grade school, they used to serve meat in the cafeteria on Fridays during Lent. Now I find out that not only was it a hate crime, but it was obviously premeditated. Those menus were made up a month in advance!! Who knew????????”
I wept with horror when I read your comment, bloggless. That was not just a hate crime, but a mass serial hate crime! This is a class action suit waiting to happen. You should hunt down all those school administrators who let this happen and sue them, just like abused altar boys sue their parishes years after the fact. Avenge this injustice by taking everything they’ve got, right down to their hairnets.
Tantor on April 20, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Ham control is keeping one hand on your fork and one hand on your knife.
James on April 20, 2007 at 2:07 PM
I’m about to commit a hate crime.
If I had enough money … I’d buy an airplane and drop slices of ham for days across every city in America. Let it rain pigs baby!
These people make me sick.
Gregor on April 20, 2007 at 2:08 PM
Is it hateful to live near a hamlet?
drjohn on April 20, 2007 at 2:11 PM
Probably save some money with bacon bits.
Hmm, I’m hungry now – time to go eat.
Rick on April 20, 2007 at 2:16 PM
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