Fred!: More guns, less rampaging lunatics mumbling about “hedonism”
posted at 12:06 pm on April 20, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Meat so thick and red, you need a circular saw to cut through it. I can’t believe he didn’t do it as an audio commentary.
I’m not saying I’m not voting for Rudy. But I’m not saying I’m not not voting for Rudy, either.
Update: Trust academia to identify the real problem. Moron:
In the wake of Monday’s massacre at Virginia Tech in which a student killed 32 people, Dean of Student Affairs Betty Trachtenberg has limited the use of stage weapons in theatrical productions.
Students involved in this weekend’s production of “Red Noses” said they first learned of the new rules on Thursday morning, the same day the show was slated to open. They were subsequently forced to alter many of the scenes by swapping more realistic-looking stage swords for wooden ones, a change that many students said was neither a necessary nor a useful response to the tragedy at Virginia Tech…
Brandon Berger ’10, who plays a swordsman in the show, said the switch to an obviously fake wooden sword has changed the nature of his part from an “evil, errant knight to a petulant child.”
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Ohhhh I like Fred.
djohn669 on April 20, 2007 at 12:15 PM
Mr. Smith goes to Washington…..pack’n! Dkos must be freaking out over a possible Fred! presidency. Expect the Fred!hitler photoshop soon.
Limerick on April 20, 2007 at 12:15 PM
True dat, Limerick. Nobody should think for a moment that the Left’s demented hate is going to stop with Bush. It didn’t with Reagan; it just got transferred whole and undiluted.
Mike H on April 20, 2007 at 12:21 PM
Funny, that’s what I thought the release of Cho’s videos did to Cho.
aero on April 20, 2007 at 12:22 PM
I continue to be impressed by the maturity and common sense that is generally conveyed by the VT students.
DaveS on April 20, 2007 at 12:24 PM
I wonder if Rosie will mock Fred by trying to speak with a Tennessee “twang”?
BacaDog on April 20, 2007 at 12:24 PM
Oops… that is Yale.
DaveS on April 20, 2007 at 12:25 PM
OMG….
I have a man crush on Fred!
He CAN and WILL win in ‘08 if he runs.
SillyRyno on April 20, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Heh, all the weight of Fred! on “Greasy Joe”. Sweet AP!
On the bottom of the article “an actor, who also was a Senator…” It’s an interesting morning.
Still, I can’t get Mrs. Librescu out of my head and heart.
Entelechy on April 20, 2007 at 12:27 PM
Red meat? Hell, this is like porn…
BirdEye on April 20, 2007 at 12:34 PM
Keep that under wraps. If it gets out that men like Fred, it will hurt him with the base.
Oh wait, we are the base…
Enrique on April 20, 2007 at 12:41 PM
here’s one you can beat ace to.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ai4kdmzvXIg
i thought it was funny at least.
jummy on April 20, 2007 at 12:42 PM
Wish I could blame it on the pollen. What a commentary on the MSM when Cho gets hours of coverage and Librescu gets
15 seconds. Sorry…..once again my feelings get the better of me.
Limerick on April 20, 2007 at 12:42 PM
Fred, you’re like a horny teenage boy telling me anything I want to hear, just to get into my pants.
And I’m ashamed to say it’s working.
a4g on April 20, 2007 at 12:47 PM
Mike, you may not be old enough to remember the “Telethon to Save the Two Party System” back when Nixon was up for re-election. But Rob Reiner expressed the same vitrol towards a pre-Watergate Nixon during that televised Democratic fund raiser…and it’s only gotten worse.
Catseye on April 20, 2007 at 12:47 PM
You know, I’m getting tired of these threads. Allah posts about something Fred said, and it’s followed by 200 comments reading something like “Fred!”, or “Fred! 2008!”, or “I love Fred”, or “Run, Fred, Run”. Not one single person has yet explained to me why I should trust him to be the President and Commander-in-Chief. A solid anti-abortion voting record, just isn’t doing the trick.
amerpundit on April 20, 2007 at 12:51 PM
He hasn’t managed anything, ever, except a Senate staff. He’s voted on legislation, but he wasn’t actually responsible for making sure it’s carried out. He served a Senator a few years ago. There’s a difference between voting tough, and actually getting things done. As President, you don’t vote, you act.
amerpundit on April 20, 2007 at 12:53 PM
You know what’s really impressive about Fred’s! article? The fact that he’s taking this sort of stand at all. He certainly doesn’t have to. He could have remained silent. But to eschew silence and take such a strong, potentially controversial among centrist and moderate liberal voters he might need next year is pretty bold, if you ask me.
And yeah, I said “eschew”. Look it up.
Fred on April 20, 2007 at 12:54 PM
“a”=”as”
amerpundit on April 20, 2007 at 12:54 PM
Well at the very least he is a real MAN…..not a cut out plastic puff piece that flips and flops like a fish preparing for the frying pan!!
Mellen on April 20, 2007 at 12:55 PM
True, but there are plenty of “real men”. They’re not all suitable for the Presidency. Let’s remember that Reagan “flip-flopped” going from being a pro-tax, pro-choice Democrat, to an anti-tax, anti-abortion, Conservative.
amerpundit on April 20, 2007 at 12:57 PM
I will write that mans name on my ballot in 2008 if I have to.
The man gets it.
Yakko77 on April 20, 2007 at 12:58 PM
Compare and contrast his statesmanlike comments to Biden’s in the previous post.
What a difference.
CrimsonFisted on April 20, 2007 at 1:01 PM
amerpundit, then you haven’t made it beyond the Fred!-one-liners, or -one-worders, as it may be. There were plenty of links and other stories provided in past threads.
Entelechy on April 20, 2007 at 1:02 PM
I {heart} Fred!
Oh, and jummy, AP could post that video a month from now and still beat ace to it.
KelliD on April 20, 2007 at 1:02 PM
amerpundit….
I understand your concerns. Nothing would make me happier then for him to finally declare and make policy statements. I was a Newt man, and was willing to support Rudy if he got the nod, but something, don’t ask me what cause I don’t know, strikes me a ‘real’ about Fred!. He strikes me as a man who’s principals trump his ambition. Am I wrong? Maybe. If he gets on the stump and turns out to be Pee-Wee Herman then I will swallow the cud and go on. In the mean time I have my Fred! hat on.
Limerick on April 20, 2007 at 1:05 PM
John Kerry talked tough on Iraq, originally. Talking tough, doesn’t make you capable of being in control of the United States, and its armed forces.
amerpundit on April 20, 2007 at 1:06 PM
again forgive the typos and fast typing and lack of skills in my post.
Limerick on April 20, 2007 at 1:06 PM
At least Fred is willing to say the things that we are hungering to hear. The rest of the Republican leadership seems to be afraid to say what really needs to be said. vFearlfu to offend the latest group of over-sensitives. By doing this Fred is already distancing himself from RINOs & from weak republicans. There is a lot of time before the ballots start getting cast. Lost of mud to fling, lots of rocks to turn over. But if the election was held today. Fred would be my choice.
hoosierken on April 20, 2007 at 1:07 PM
Limerick, maybe that’s what it is. Besides what he’s said in radio addresses and occasional posts, Fred has done very little in talking about what policies he would enact, how he’d deal with situations, etc., as a President. There’s just not enough known about him, for me to go “He’s my guy”.
amerpundit on April 20, 2007 at 1:07 PM
I just found out that my nephew had a very close friend who was among the 32. She was shot by Cho, ran, then ran back to the classroom to help others–and he shot her in the face.
Had she, or the boys who barricaded classrooms, or Librescu been carrying a gun, there is no doubt that Cho would have been stopped.
unamused on April 20, 2007 at 1:13 PM
Look, Fred! stands out amongst all the others in my mind because the very articles he writes where he clearly speaks his mind.
How many in Washington right now say what they mean?
It’s time we elect a man with both balls and the gift for gab.
unamused on April 20, 2007 at 1:16 PM
Amerpundit,
At this point I’m not too interested in his nuts and bolts ideas of how he would respond to anything and the intricacies of his policies. I don’t want another micromanager Carter. I would prefer a big ideas man who has people to help flesh out the plans. Isn’t that how the best historical leaders have done? Make the goal and let others bring it about. We couldn’t have done very well during wartime having FDR decide all aspects of tactics and strategy and logistics.
His posts on ideas are good enough right now, later he can get more specific.
Oh, one more thing:
Fred!
Fred!!!
FRED!!!!
I love Fred! He’s my man.
Fun Fred! Fact: Did you know Chuck Norris is secretly afraid of Fred!?
ScottG on April 20, 2007 at 1:23 PM
I’m going to vote for Fred as many times as I can.
TexasDan on April 20, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Oh, thank God and His Viceregent, Betty Trachtenberg! No more shall the ugly spectre of violence rear its head amongst the good people of the Commonwealth of Virginia.
morganfrost on April 20, 2007 at 1:29 PM
Fred! Wow! Fred makes so much sense, voices such to the point wisdom, it amazes me. We need Fred for President!
More posts like this and maybe AP will even endorse Fred instead of Rudy ……
omegaram on April 20, 2007 at 1:33 PM
Watch out!!
The Fred! Steamroller is firing up his engines…
Rudy and Romney are dusted!
omnipotent on April 20, 2007 at 1:39 PM
I found this link today. Check out the archives. Lots of Fred! meat to chew on. I have found nothing there yet I can disagree with him on, and there is no other politician out there I can say the same for.
http://abcradio.com/blog.asp?id=15663
MalkinFan on April 20, 2007 at 1:40 PM
God, I wish these Hollywood-types would just shut up and sing! Why do they think just because their famous we should care what they think?
JaHerer22 on April 20, 2007 at 1:43 PM
I smell fear JaHerer…..
Limerick on April 20, 2007 at 1:48 PM
The thing that just kills me with this whole affair at VaTech is the left screams about the supposed “Police State” we live in yet when all this goes down they darn near DEMAND a Police State (shutting down the campus, more police on site, why weren’t our students better protected, etc).
For me, I prefer a CITIZEN STATE. Allow and encourage the responsible use of firearms and the carrying there of. Would that have prevented the Va Tech tragedy? Probably not…but it probably would have lessened the final Butcher’s Bill.
Those of us who DO carry concealed understand the additional responsibility we are under. We are told in the classes that we will be held to a higher standard if we draw the weapon and that we should expect to go to jail in the immediate aftermath. Since we have been given the privilege\right (depending on where you are in the spectrum) of carrying concealed we are expected to understand the tactical situation should we have to draw the weapon.
Like Fred! says,
Just like we are all ignorant for “buying into” the Bush Doctrine or too stupid to do anything but join the military.
Pilgrim on April 20, 2007 at 1:50 PM
well…the last time we did that was Clinton and look what that got us. Oh…you didn’t mean…OH! You meant metaphorically!
nevermind.
Pilgrim on April 20, 2007 at 1:53 PM
Catseye, you’re right. And Meathead wasn’t the only one afflicted by NDS in those days, either.
As for being old enough to remember, I plead the Fifth. Many of them. ;)
Mike H on April 20, 2007 at 1:55 PM
I agree with the new policy on weapons in theatrical productions. There is just no telling what trauma could be caused to impressionable young minds if they were to see a production of “Julius Caesar” where an assassination takes place. I suggest that organic vegetables be substituted for the knives. Unless the Caesar being depicted is wearing a toga labled “Halliburton” and the actor wears a Dick Cheney mask. In that case colleges would be required to used real weapons. Productions of “Hamlet” would not include death but could show a “symbolic death” from ridicule and loss of self esteem.
Seriously, (It is next to impossible to treat this balonely seriously) would a restriction on a sexually explicit feminist production (Oh, please, not starring Rosie! I beg you!) be unwarranted censorship? Thank God we have a generation of young men and women who aren’t afraid of their own shadows defending us.
mkstach on April 20, 2007 at 2:06 PM
I very much agree with that. I believe it is why Reagan was such a good president; he obviously was a good judge of character, had good ideas, and communicated those ideas and principles effectively.
The office of President depends as much on staff as the person elected to that office. Without good support staff, the one person who holds the office can’t get much accomplished, and the staff won’t do the right things without good leadership.
Ideas, good character, principles, good judgement, good decisions.
Everyone else running for the office just seems to sound like a door to door vacuum cleaner salesman.
rockhauler on April 20, 2007 at 2:07 PM
I just want to see one Fred on Hillary debate. Just one. Then I’ll be content and happy.
Nethicus on April 20, 2007 at 2:12 PM
But, but, Cho is the victim here… according to how the MSM is painting his anti-social murderous behavior.
Lawrence on April 20, 2007 at 2:12 PM
Where can I get a copy of “How to talk Southern”?
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on April 20, 2007 at 2:13 PM
Dunno…you might check here.
Pilgrim on April 20, 2007 at 2:15 PM
Sarcasm noted, but really, it’s just not the same.
Fred isn’t holding a concert where he lures people in with the promise of entertainment before bombarding them with rants on politics.
Fred doesn’t claim to understand what it likes in Iraq all on the shakey basis of having toured the green zone in a limo.
And Fred isn’t foaming at the mouth.
He simply filled in for someone on a radio show and writes a few columns. Celebrities do this all the time without this side of the political aisle so much as flinching.
Also, he’s a “Hollywood-type” with political experience. The Dixie Chicks and Sean Penn would gain some serious political whining cred if they could actually get an office in Washington.
Basically, it’s still apples and oranges.
Esthier on April 20, 2007 at 2:17 PM
…in respect for the 40 Huns randomly beheaded by a roving band of Roman centurions in Richmond, VA. just yesterday.
nico on April 20, 2007 at 2:18 PM
Is there some way I can cut through all the BS and vote for Fred now?
George Bruce on April 20, 2007 at 2:29 PM
Good to know you are keeping an open mind. For me, it’s all about electability. After 6+ years of President Mumbles and the couldn’t spin straight gang I am in need of a leader who can distill his ideas down to a short effective soundbite.
Bill C on April 20, 2007 at 2:33 PM
amerpundit what are you looking for. Rudy ran the City of NY and, before 9/11 he would have had trouble being reelected dog catcher his popularity was so low. And that’s not to mention his crappy choices in department heads…especially his Chief of Police!
So who? A governor! Perhaps, but which one among the current candidates fits that bill? Romney? Too late to the game. So who?
Maybe someone from the public sector? We had that go around with Forbes and he went no where.
Besides, we know full well that it’s more about having the courage of one’s convictions that makes a great leader and who that individual surrounds himself with.
Fred has experience in Government and he understands the law. So he hasn’t come out and spelled out his plan to re-invent the tax system or anything else. But why should he. All in good tome my friend, all in good time.
I’m more concerned to see who he surrounds himself with during the campaign and who he selects as his running mate in 2008!
Besides if all things are considered equal, his wife is SMOKIN’ HOT!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on April 20, 2007 at 2:40 PM
HAHA - good one Pilgram, but I think she might have found the book at the Cracker Barrel on I-95 in Man-asses!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on April 20, 2007 at 2:42 PM
Amerpundit, I respect your standing back and evaluating the FRED! fervor…that’s what intelligent folks do. But as for myself, this is not the first time that I’ve paid attention to this man. He has a political history, and I’ve been following a good bit of it. So it wasn’t just jumping on the bandwagon for me, it was REJOICING at the possibility of a candidate I REALLY like and respect.
- I like Rudy fine, but he’s a tad more liberal than I want.
- Newt ain’t got a prayer in Hell’s chance of getting elected because he’s damaged inventory.
- Can’t stand McCain, as one would gather from my posts - He’s a sneakysnake.
FRED! is just a likeable, intelligent, conservative, commonsense kind of guy that scares (can scare) Liberals (See Jaherer22’s remark).
So….oooooon that note….
FRED!
FRED! 2008!
FRED! for Prez!
Thompson (FRED!)/Steel ‘08!
tickleddragon on April 20, 2007 at 2:50 PM
Or, if you’re J. F’n Kerry:
Where can I get me a copy of “How to talk Southern”?
bofh on April 20, 2007 at 3:00 PM
THompson/Steele? Hmmmm….I like it!
Pilgrim on April 20, 2007 at 3:05 PM
The Complete How to Speak Southern
by Steve Mitchell, Sam C. Rawls (Illustrator)
ISBN: 0553804782
BN & AMAZON
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on April 20, 2007 at 3:06 PM
Steel, as much as I respect the man, lost an election which damages him. So I’m looking for:
Thompson/Watts
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on April 20, 2007 at 3:07 PM
God, I wish these Hollywood-types would just shut up and sing! Why do they think just because their famous we should care what they think?JaHerer22 on April 20, 2007 at 1:43 PM
As already noted, the lefties are scared of Fred, and him alone. Not only JaHerer22; also, in the office, neighbors, on planes. Bring his name up and the “he’s just an actor; we don’t need another actor…bla, bla, bla” frothing begins…
Good sing!
Entelechy on April 20, 2007 at 4:26 PM
Sorry JaHerer22 - was to be a quote, not a strike :(
Entelechy on April 20, 2007 at 4:27 PM
Thompson/Steele ‘08!
Talk about a Dream Team ticket. I’m solidly in Fred!’s corner. I respect Amerpundit’s skepticism, but none of the other offerings are as powerful to me, personally, than Fred!
None of them. Fred! could actually sway the Sane Democrats to vote for him. I’ll bet you Orson Scott Card would be a Fred! supporter.
Damn, but I wish more Democrats were as well-informed as OSC!
techno_barbarian on April 20, 2007 at 5:56 PM
Freudian slip, Entelechy? ;-)
Fred has been in and around politics for the last 39 years, was schooled as a lawyer, became an actor only BECAUSE of his political involvement in seeing a corrupt governor get ousted, and still he speaks so plainly that you’ve never heard a news commentator attempt to spin his words.
That’s huge all by itself. You won’t be seeing the talking heads “explain” to the public what President Thompson really meant after a speech. There won’t be a shred of doubt what he meant. He can back up his stated opinions with a voting record, proving that he let his conscience guide him as a Senator.
So I take the opposite tack from amerpundit. Until you can show me a serious skeleton, dig up some criminal or disturbing mud, this man deserves the support of the conservative base. He has all of the tools and talents to do the job, as well as a constitutionalist perspective which comes first with me.
Freelancer on April 20, 2007 at 6:05 PM
Amen, Freelancer.
MalkinFan on April 20, 2007 at 6:58 PM
amerpundit,
Are you working on someone else’s campaign?
I’ve debunked the aspect of Reagan’s supposed prolife flipflop meme twice here, first on March 6, at 2:43 PM and most recently on this thread on Monday of this week, April 16, 2007 at 5:01 PM. You were on that thread. Are you just going to keep repeating this meme in the hope it will catch on?
Others have linked to Fred’s voting record here.
INC on April 20, 2007 at 8:12 PM
There have been other links as well to some of Fred’s other statements.
No one’s going to make you vote for him. Just come up with some new arguments for whoever your guy is.
Meanwhile, Fred says what he thinks and says it well.
He’s the man!
INC on April 20, 2007 at 8:15 PM
Ok, I’ll bite.
Thompson / Steele!!
Run, Fred, Run!!
Mooseman on April 20, 2007 at 9:09 PM
Compare Fred:
To Reid:
There is a diffence between Fred Thompson and all the other politicians in the coming race……….. We NEED FRED..
PinkyBigglesworth on April 20, 2007 at 9:59 PM
Notice how the Republicans in Hollywood back up their talk and actually run for office: Reagan, Arnold, Sonny Bono, the guy from Love Boat. Democrats bitch and moan and never put it on the line. It should be “put up or shut up.”
Mallard T. Drake on April 20, 2007 at 11:30 PM
I believe that I’ve come to know Fred Thompson better through his articles and audio clips than the other candidates through all of their campaign speeches put together.
He pretty much says (or writes) what I feel on all of the subjects that have come up. He apparently understands the values that a whole lot of us have and isn’t afraid to voice his opinions or put them on paper. So I’m supposed to vote for someone who doesn’t represent any of my values except for the need of the GWOT?
He can communicate his ideas. I doubt that I’m the only one that feels reassured and comfortable hearing him speak. So I’m supposed to vote for someone who doesn’t make me confortable listening to them?
He served in our government but didn’t seek to make his service an empire. He has a day job and didn’t seek this campaign but is being brought into it by the people (including myself) who believe he is a good fit for what we want in a President. So I’m supposed to vote for some guy who hasn’t held down a job outside of politics in decades?
Buzzy on April 21, 2007 at 1:24 AM