I vote for tell all. Why? Because, honest to God, we need to understand WHY someone does these things.

Why? To help figure out how to stop it in the future.

Right. Because airing the clips constantly on national television so a housewife in Walla Walla and a secretary in Grand Rapids can Tivo them all day long is going to help us “understand” these freaks.

Sure, ad nauseum discussion of the “manifesto” on “E Entertainment Television” will certainly help society figure out how to “stop it in the future.”

Because, geez, this has never happened before, and we’ve never ever combed over the words and statements of the killers in a thousand different ways before, either. I mean it’s not like one killer (Colin Ferguson) was on television every night representing himself in court … it’s not like (Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris) the nightly talking heads have never shown a thousand pictures and discussed video games and websites all damn day before …

Obviously (Luby’s – Killeen Texas) we’ve never had days of mourning that went of for weeks and clearly (Paducah) we’ve never had endless discussions about the killers motivations and we’ve definitely (Stockton McDonald’s massacre) never spent weeks talking about the firearms …

I could literally go on for days. Must I?

It’s not like this is the first or the tenth or the 50th one of these shootings. It’s not like we haven’t aired all the video before. About the only thing new in this case is that the bastard was smart enough to pick the least ethical news organization to send his crap to.

There is nothing to be gained by airing those tapes. Nada. If we were going to “learn something that would stop it” we would have done it decades ago. And if that’s really what we care about, then show the videos to actual experts who might change things.

That housewife in Grand Rapids is just getting a vicarious thrill. She ain’t going to prevent the next school shooting.

No offense, but when you’re argument is compared with actual reality, it looks awfully, painfully weak.

The videos should never have aired.

Maybe you’d understand if it was your child still not buried while his killer’s hate was broadcast 24/7. In that case, wonder what you’d think of the suggestion that a trucker in Sarasota might watch the video and “understand” better?

My belief: the Houston nutjob was influenced by the VT nutjob’s videos. How many more nutjobs have to do this this month before people start to understand WHY it’s happening in this time frame???

https://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/04/21/200704210002.asp

The following blame America article in the most popular newspaper in South Korea is the opposite:

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200704/200704190010.html

Note to Park Eunjoo (author of the article): You obviously have been hanging around Hot Air and you completely took my comment out of context. In any case, how is telling the truth about anti-Americanism in Korea “hate speech?” Take a look at this link documenting anti-Americanism in Korean public schools: (Warning for those with high blood pressure, do not click onto the link): http://www.usinkorea.org/1st/education.htm

Eun-joo, if you want to see “hate speech,” read Cho Seung-hui’s manifesto. In case you haven’t noticed Americans have acted completely different to this meditated slaughter of students than Koreans did when two GIs accidentally ran over two schoolchildren who were walking in the road. Eun-joo, please compare our behavior to that “tank incident” of 2002 when 10,000 Korean students in a mass protest burned and ripped up American flags (among other things): http://www.usinkorea.org/1st/TRAGEDY/index.html

The Korea Herald editorial said Korea was doing some soul-searching about the tank incident.

Why has HotAir not reported it?

What, nobody else is? Go to Google News.

This contractor kills one of the hostages and then himself. This will no doubt add more fuel to the gun law fire…

Why has HotAir not reported it?

His plan may have been to shoot up the crowded classrooms later in the day, but he headed to the dorm early in the morning to attempt to fulfuill another kind of fantasy first.

TexasDan on April 20, 2007 at 2:07 PM

And Ryan Clark foiled his plan. He is a hero – not only a victim.

But the NRA has always been behind the NICS. Here is a link to an NRA article in 2001:

President Clinton was determined not to allow NICS to succeed. The Department of Justice, Attorney General Reno and the Clinton administration dragged their feet to fuel the political fire in support of a waiting period. Success of NICS would have granted a victory to one of the former President`s bitter enemies, the National Rifle Association.

I know there are quotes from them promoting the instant check system as an alternative to waiting periods, but it is evidently not available online (or doesn’t come up in the search anyway).

Their biggest beef with the NICS was that it was being used as a back-door gun registration database by the Clinton/Reno justice department, but they’ve always been in favor of keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and crazy people.

It seems possible that he went to the dorm early in the morning looking less for an opportunity to kill someone as possibly the opportunity to force himself on someone. It would explain why he followed a girl in, and why he had an interaction with her. His plan may have been to shoot up the crowded classrooms later in the day, but he headed to the dorm early in the morning to attempt to fulfuill another kind of fantasy first.

Last night my wife and I attended the symphony. The orchestra opened with a piece called Fratres by Arvo Part. Now, I am usually not one for sentimentality – but sometimes, music can explain things and feelings that words just cannot. As I listened,…

He’s dead.

They’re dead.

Who cares what he did, time-line-wise or forensically.

It won’t stop anything, solve anything or cure anything.

Burn all of his effects. Erase his name from history.

What was his name again? Who the F*ck cares?

Scumnut zero.

profitsbeard on April 19, 2007 at 10:43 PM

A Korean friend of mine said he was hoping that his name would be banned from clan rolls and his parent’s names marked for shame as having raised a murderer.

Allahpundit has been burning the midnight oil at Hot Air, and has some shocking updates on the Virginia Tech massacre perpetrated by a deranged student, Cho Seung-Hui. First, NBC is now claiming that Cho had a staggering number of magazines,……

“Both his parents knew he had mental problems but they were poor and they couldn’t send him to a special hospital in the United States.

“His mother and sister were asking his friends to help instead.

“His parents worked and did not have time to look after his condition and didn’t give him special treatment.

“They had no time or money to look after his special problem even though they knew he was autistic.”

Found the above at

Besides Cho being wrongly diagnosed as “autistic,” am I missing something? I didn’t know getting a court order and having your son committed to a mental facility would cost a lot of money. I think his tuition at Virginia Tech cost more, or sending the daughter to Princeton. Also, I’m not getting the “poor” angle. The townhome they live in, doesn’t appear to be in a “poor” neighborhood.

As to Nikki Giovanni, as much as I question some things at V-Tech right now, I bet every University in the nation has multiple stories like that one, involving plenty of gay and straight academics feathering their nests of higher learning.

And there is a broader lesson: If you see a psychotic loser with a gun, take him down NOW! Two to the chest, one to the head.

A-fred!ing-men, brother.

Now THAT’s poetry!

Sure I have an English degree, but I also have a Ruger SP-101 .357 magnum with a Golden Sabre hollow-point in the chamber, for those times when a poem just won’t do.

She got her job at Tech because Fowler had written numerous praises and analyses of her work before Giovanni came to campus. Then Tech paid an enormous sum for Giovanni to be a member of the faculty (with only her B.A.) Talk about a conflict of interest! Praising your lesbian lover, then getting Tech to hire her.

Wow. I’m sure the faculty members that worked hard for their Ph.D.s feel great about that.

Honestly, after reading that poem I thought for sure it was something thrown together by a student, likely a graduating senior and English department darling. And I don’t say that lightly; I mean, I spent years studying Eliot and Arnold and Pound and Frost and Blake and lots of dead white men (and Dickinson, for the ladies). I do know a little about poetry. Real poetry.

Nikki Giovanni has very little talent but is a celebrity on campus.

Yeah, we had one of those too. She had loads of lesbian devotees but was sleeping with a male student at the time. She was our celebrity Pulitzer nominee, even if she did have to nominate herself.

Burn all of his effects. Erase his name from history.

What was his name again? Who the F*ck cares?

Scumnut zero.

profitsbeard on April 19, 2007 at 10:43 PM

That’s sad. You know, there are two schools of thought on this. Cut off his tirades from TV so no one knows him or about him. The other is to tell all.

I vote for tell all. Why? Because, honest to God, we need to understand WHY someone does these things.

Why? To help figure out how to stop it in the future. I’m not saying that we need to make laws to do it, but people who are in positions of authority, Professors for example, should be able to see problems before they go this far.

I was a teacher once in a college (for six years). I had more than one “nut case” in my school, who, for whatever reason DIDN’T snap, but might have. In fact, I was sure one would, I reported it to administration and no action was taken. I called the cops and was told unless he “actually did something, there was nothing they could do”….

Well… there. I guess that’s about when *I* started carrying a weapon. And have ever since. And probably always will.

But, for you to say “No one cares” and “who the F*ck cares” just shows that it’s really true what they say about liberals. They really don’t care. (I know you must be a liberal, because the remarks I’ve been seeing, and parrying on my own sites the last few days have been the same sort of crap and they invariably have been ‘liberals’ who ‘hate guns’.)

Nikki Giovanni has very little talent but is a celebrity on campus. She became famous for her radical prose poems in the 70s. She has really toned down, but she often has a compulsive need to go back to being radical because that is why she is famous.

By the way, she is an open lesbian whose lover is Virginia Fowler, a crazy anti-male feminist at the English department, who is now one of the heads of the Department. Nikki Giovanni only has a B.A. not even a master’s, yet she feels she is the celebrity at Virginia Tech.

She got her job at Tech because Fowler had written numerous praises and analyses of her work before Giovanni came to campus. Then Tech paid an enormous sum for Giovanni to be a member of the faculty (with only her B.A.) Talk about a conflict of interest! Praising your lesbian lover, then getting Tech to hire her.