HuffPo post of the day: VTech slaughter is Ralph Nader’s fault
posted at 5:39 pm on April 19, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Because if Nader hadn’t run, the Goracle would have won Florida and the assault-weapons ban wouldn’t have been allowed to lapse and Cho Seung-Hui wouldn’t have been able to buy a gun and the glaciers wouldn’t have melted and Saddam Hussein would be transitioning Iraq to democracy, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.
Mass murder — the perfect occasion to enforce party discipline.
Update: Seems like the right place for the dKos post of the day, so here you go. That’s what ex-POW John McCain gets for supporting gun rights.
Update: Hmmm.
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this is just getting asinine
Defector01 on April 19, 2007 at 5:40 PM
Does anyone blame the shooter?
Kini on April 19, 2007 at 5:43 PM
Cynicism? At the HuffPo? Does Brit Hume know about this?
Enrique on April 19, 2007 at 5:43 PM
I do. But I’m also suffering from a peculiar sort of psychosis known as “conservativism”, so, I’m not sure my opinion would count over at HuffPo
JadeNYU on April 19, 2007 at 5:44 PM
Liberals make it hard to be civil, don’t they….
unamused on April 19, 2007 at 5:45 PM
It’s bad enough that I have to walk past the movie poster for Nader-slobberfest “An Unreasonable Man” every day.
Nadermania!
saint kansas on April 19, 2007 at 5:45 PM
Somedays I wonder if I walked thru a portal into a parallel universe where good is bad, bad is good and reality is anything one wants it to be.
darwin on April 19, 2007 at 5:45 PM
Ummm, Klebold and Harris didn’t buy there own guns, a friend (who could) did. Cho could’ve done the same thing, or payed someone off to do it. Back to making tinfoil hats, HuffPo. Nice try.
amerpundit on April 19, 2007 at 5:49 PM
And, I’d like to point out, Columbine happened under Clinton, while the restriction was in effect. They used Tech-9s, and similar weapons. Didn’t work.
amerpundit on April 19, 2007 at 5:52 PM
Those are some galactic sized leaps of logic to come to this conclusion.
Queasy on April 19, 2007 at 5:55 PM
The signature on the KosBot “Bouwerie Boy” gives the perfect example of the liberal mind:
And they think WE’RE dangerous.
Gregor on April 19, 2007 at 6:06 PM
Keyword being logic
F15Mech on April 19, 2007 at 6:06 PM
It’s not the fault of (the)
EskimosNader. It’s the fault of expatriates, thus of the Jews – they’ll write next.Invariably the HuffPoo will live up to its name.
Entelechy on April 19, 2007 at 6:10 PM
Let me be the first to say:
Thanks Ralph!
Conservatives are gracious, in victory and defeat.
billy on April 19, 2007 at 6:10 PM
Everyone knows it’s Sam Colt’s fault.
Gregor on April 19, 2007 at 6:13 PM
election season really is starting early this year. i just got my weekly spam from howard dean inviting me to start a fifty state door-to-door canvas already.
jummy on April 19, 2007 at 6:14 PM
I usually hit the “Spam” button in my email client, Gmail. It now automatically puts them in the “Spam” box.
amerpundit on April 19, 2007 at 6:16 PM
From d
KPOS McCain thread comments:Entelechy on April 19, 2007 at 6:18 PM
six degrees of the florida recount game is awesome!
lorien1973 on April 19, 2007 at 6:19 PM
i think the gop should do what the dems do. even before hiliarty or obama declared, they were spamming me with messaging and talking points, each tied to a “take action” sort of feature. the gop sits backwith their thunbs up their buts simpering, “gee, i hope someone blogs about us.”
jummy on April 19, 2007 at 6:25 PM
I, personally, haven’t gotten anything from Presidential candidates, but if that’s the case, I agree.
amerpundit on April 19, 2007 at 6:28 PM
Fred!/Nader……we got em’ licked now!
Limerick on April 19, 2007 at 6:41 PM
Fred/Heston ‘08
Gregor on April 19, 2007 at 6:45 PM
The Nader causal chain is hilarious. I haven’t mentioned Palsgraf since last summer, but this seems like an appropriate place.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on April 19, 2007 at 6:46 PM
Dog and cats living together, total chaos!
Kini on April 19, 2007 at 6:57 PM
Nader can also be blamed for Roberts and Alito, Hurricane Katrina, the September 11 terrorist attacks, and the Chicago Cubs’ epic collapse in the 2003 NLCS.
aunursa on April 19, 2007 at 7:02 PM
A large number of things are Nader’s fault… this is not one of them
Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on April 19, 2007 at 7:06 PM
Anybody ever think … If the suicide bent killer couldn’t get a gun a homemade bomb would do. It likely would be as easy to do as it was for the the London bus bombers. Just walk in the class and …
tarpon on April 19, 2007 at 7:07 PM
The poll numbers are interesting but misleading. For example, I think it’s pretty obvious that the killer was willing to wait for his guns, abiding by the current gun laws. Would he have gotten guns with tougher laws? Tough call, but its being a tough call seems to indicate that #3 is the correct response, that laws help, but “people” will still find guns (just maybe not everyone). Yet only 7% of people responded this way.
What this probably means is that #3 and #4 weren’t options presented to those being polled, but were surmised responses for those who refused to submit to the binary logic of the poll. I’d guess that this is why these answers are in parentheses. Generally polling firms try to limit these moderate or indecisive responses by encouraging people to pick one of the extremes, skewing the results away from true public opinion.
Also, the 19%, though it may include some of the people who might have answered #3 or #4, also include some who might have answered #2 were the question phrased differently. After all, “people will always find guns” is a pretty categorical statement, whereas “tougher laws can help” is pretty weak. And it doesn’t even address the issue of whether looser laws might have meant that someone had the means to cut down the murderer while his body count was still low (or, possibly, zero). So all this skewing, and still only 19% of respondents said that guns could help (and only 29% of Democrats). That’s a shockingly low number. No wonder Harry Reid wants to wait on talk of gun control.
calbear on April 19, 2007 at 7:21 PM
You’re not the first person I’ve heard present that theory. But the murderer was far less like the bus bombers and far more like the Littleton killers of Columbine High School. And, if you will recall, their bombs were duds.
calbear on April 19, 2007 at 7:26 PM
What is it with liberals and delusions of paradise lost?
Look at their obsession with President Kennedy. To hear them tell it, if Kennedy had not been shot, then there would have been no Vietnam and America would now be a golden liberal paradise. They ignore the fact that, at the time of his death, Kennedy was already a man in serious physical and political decline (though it was masked by his golden-boy persona). It’s easy to play “what-if” with history, but I seriously doubt whether the man who got us into the Bay of Pigs would have kept us out of Vietnam.
And now…. The “stolen” election of 2000. Did Katherine Harris steal it? Did the Supreme Court steal it? Did Ralph Nader himself steal it? As if a Gore Presidency would have magically prevented 9/11 and ushered in a new golden age. Again, “what-ifs” are tricky, but anyone who thinks that an American President wouldn’t have ordered a serious military response to 9/11 is deluding themselves. In addition, Gore was part of the administration that first declared the overthrow of Saddam Hussein to be settled US policy (look it up under the major legislation enacted under Clinton).
In the case of the Virginia Tech shooting, the “assault weapon” ban that Boosh is vilified for allowing to expire would likely not have changed the outcome. A 10-round magazine was legal under those rules. From what I’ve read, the Virginia Tech shooter didn’t use much more capacity than that. Besides, changing magazines is quick. And it sounds like this guy had plenty of time to reload.
But no — according to the “reality-based-community” on the left, the Virginia Tech shooting would never have happened if only Al Gore had been President in 2001.
Eh. Call it Camelot Derangement Syndrome. I want credit if the name sticks!
Anton on April 19, 2007 at 8:10 PM
Entelechy, hiya!
Whatever you do, don’t tell them about absentee ballots. Shhhh! ;-)
Pablo on April 19, 2007 at 8:17 PM
Hey,
Let’s take away all the water and no one will ever drownd!!
NEMETI IN SYRACUSE on April 19, 2007 at 8:41 PM
Hey Allah, you forgot to say that 9/11 wouldn’t have happened if the Goracle was sitting on his rightful throne.
Darth Executor on April 19, 2007 at 9:15 PM
The Nadir of stupidity.
Unsafe at any keyboard.
profitsbeard on April 19, 2007 at 10:48 PM
Don’t you know nuthin?
The criminal is never, ever responsible for their own actions.
At least thats what the Democrats tell me, and they’re the experts at avoiding responsibility.
MoxArgon on April 19, 2007 at 11:09 PM
My response to Martin Lewis’ rant is:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
georgej on April 20, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Their anti gun agenda demands that this horrible crime be the fault of the guns and that pesky second amendment that the great majority of Americans support. Let the conversation drift to the fact that Cho’s name should have been in a database to prevent the little psychopath from obtaining a gun in the first place and suddenly the left bristles in protection of “rights” that aren’t in the constitution.
There is much more evidence that the Al Gore mindset of blameshifting caused this horrible crime but you know the left will never admit that.
Buzzy on April 20, 2007 at 12:50 AM
I will :) The expatriate info came from a leftie source – so, I figured they knew already. Regards,
Entelechy on April 20, 2007 at 1:56 AM
I just want to thank everyone here for not putting those insipid little quotes at the end of your comments.
THANK YOU!!!!
KelliD on April 20, 2007 at 10:17 AM
Ok you caught me, world hunger…my fault.
SPIFF1669 on April 20, 2007 at 11:12 AM
Hell, I’d feel pretty good about the future of this country’s chances if the current Dem party looked anything like JFK. At least he knew who the enemy was.
Dudley Smith on April 20, 2007 at 11:55 AM
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