Harry Reid’s conscience feelin’ groovy after telling Bush the war is lost

posted at 6:51 pm on April 19, 2007 by Allahpundit

I’ll bet. How often do you get to tell the enemy face to face that he’s beat?

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Thursday said the war in Iraq is lost militarily and “can only be won diplomatically, politically and economically” after more than four years of fighting.

“Now I believe, myself, that the secretary of state, the secretary of defense and you have to make your own decision as to what the president knows: that this war is lost, that the surge is not accomplishing anything,” [What? -- ed.] Reid, D-Nev., told reporters.

Repeating remarks he made to President Bush during a meeting of congressional leaders at the White House, Reid said the president is hearing only from people who are backing up his view of the war.

“I know I was the odd guy out yesterday at the White House, but I at least told him what he needs to hear. … I told George Bush what he needs to hear, not what he wants to hear, I did that and my conscience is great,” said Reid, who was one of several lawmakers who met with the president on Wednesday at the White House. Reid added that more people need to tell Bush the same.

Bear in mind, only 60% of the surging forces have even deployed yet.

Exit question: If the war is lost, why did Reid invite Petraeus to brief the Senate next Wednesday?


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How do these people (Reid, Pelosi, et al) SLEEP at night?

CrimsonFisted on April 19, 2007 at 6:54 PM

Lunesta

Bradky on April 19, 2007 at 6:55 PM

Michelle’s reader, Mark, had it right…

It is not only unpatriotic, and cowardly, but it is treasonous! He may be directing his hatred at the President but clearly his words aid the enemy.

Reid should resign.

Zorro on April 19, 2007 at 6:55 PM

The day will come when these people will not be able to live in this country, much less govern it.

RedWinged Blackbird on April 19, 2007 at 6:58 PM

Treason. Pure and simple.

KSgop on April 19, 2007 at 7:00 PM

I told George Bush what he needs to hear, not what he wants to hear, I did that and my conscience is great,

Isn’t this the guy who hung up on an AP reporter who was asking questions about Reid’s questionable land deals?

Topsecretk9 on April 19, 2007 at 7:01 PM

Reid is a nauseating loser and a great friend of our enemies.

rplat on April 19, 2007 at 7:01 PM

I knew this was only a matter of time. The Dems couldn’t wait to give the surge a chance. It might have succeeded, and that would have just been horrible for the Dems. So, they just stalled funding for it and declared it a failure. These people are dangerous, very dangerous.

In an insurgency like this, success and failure are all a matter of perception. Unlike global warming, consensus actually matters. If most people think you are winning, you are. If most people think you are loosing, you are. Compare McCain risking his own life to serve his country (again) by walking the streets of Baghdad in an effort to demonstrate some progress, to Reid who just announced to the world that we were beaten militarily by Al Qaeda in Iraq.

tommylotto on April 19, 2007 at 7:03 PM

How do these people (Reid, Pelosi, et al) SLEEP at night?
CrimsonFisted on April 19, 2007 at 6:54 PM

With their heads up their a$$e$.

csdeven on April 19, 2007 at 7:03 PM

Yep… can we call him a traitor NOW???

Treason… aid and comfort to the enemy….

Romeo13 on April 19, 2007 at 7:04 PM

Exit question:

I would guess they wouldn’t want to be proven wrong and look stupid.
Not that this little transparency effect doesn’t prove it already.

Kini on April 19, 2007 at 7:08 PM

They have no morals, no shame, no patriotism and no damned clue.
Narcissitic fools who think they know better than anyone else around what is good for YOU and ME.
They must be defeated as much as the Islamic terrorists.

bbz123 on April 19, 2007 at 7:10 PM

Anyone who is considering running for president should meet with the general and see what he has to say.

Of course I’m sure certain candidates will insist on showing up for the meeting, plugging their ears, and going “lalalalala” for the whole briefing

Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on April 19, 2007 at 7:13 PM

Reid said the president is hearing only from people who are backing up his view of the war.

Ahahahahaha….and Reid doesn’t have his syncophats scurrying about him day and night. I am sure Dingy Harry has the most informed and objective view of the war. [/eye roll] If Dingy has intelligence reports from battlefield to support his view, he should make them public. Otherwise, STFU. I take this as a sign of desperation, if this is the best he can offer as an opposing viewpoint.

People of Nevada: please do your duty and relieve the country of this pathetic, weak-sprited man.

Mallard T. Drake on April 19, 2007 at 7:16 PM

And I still think Reid looks like the creepy teacher from Pink Floyds’ “The Wall”.

Coronagold on April 19, 2007 at 7:16 PM

OK let’s see if I get this straight.

Today, Reid said the president is hearing only from people who are backing up his view of the war but then Reid said, “I know I was the odd guy out yesterday at the White House, but I at least told him what he needs to hear. … I told George Bush what he needs to hear, not what he wants to hear, I did that and my conscience is great,”

So Reid says, today, Bush is only hearing from people that back his view but yesterday Reid told Bush what he needs to hear. Harry is a miracle worker, He seems to be able to untell someone something.

ordi on April 19, 2007 at 7:17 PM

Dear Nevada,

Enclosed you will find the star we cut out of the flag.
Mr. Reid’s Vegas connections may be able to find an appropriate place to paste it.

Limerick on April 19, 2007 at 7:24 PM

Treason for political points.

This idiot has no idea of the damage he has just done.

Living in the “bubble” of Washington, D.C. surrounded by lap licking “yes” men and women, where everything is for sale, including our country.

I want to throw up………….

PinkyBigglesworth on April 19, 2007 at 7:25 PM

I know I was the odd guy out yesterday at the White House, but I at least told him what he needs to hear

–The Grim Reaper (death personified as an old man or a skeleton with a scythe

Entelechy on April 19, 2007 at 7:32 PM

Reid is an idiot, even Baghdad Bob was saying they were winning right up until the tanks came. You never tell the enemy your losing. Damn

djohn669 on April 19, 2007 at 7:33 PM

…great lookin’ rug, Harry. BTW, it’s probably smarter than you are – or at least more patriotic.

bofh on April 19, 2007 at 7:38 PM

If Bush had Malkins he’d get up there on the bully pulpit, and chew Reid out for encouraging our enemies, give some positive news from the surge, and reinforce how important it is that we prevail, or at least prevent a power vacuum in Iraq. These Dems are so stupid to think that betting against America is a good move.

smellthecoffee on April 19, 2007 at 7:39 PM

To sit there and announce we can’t win, we won’t win, oh look we still haven’t won – while the battle is still engaged? Even if you are in favor of pulling out yesterday that is still madness.

Resolute on April 19, 2007 at 7:41 PM

Allah,

the White House is saying he didn’t tell the President any such thing. That’s what Brit Hume said tonight on Special Report. Plus, Reid’s now supporting Feingold’s defund the war bill according to Mara Liason.

The Apologist on April 19, 2007 at 7:43 PM

This is the terrorists’ reward for their multiple-bomb-blast mass murder in Baghdad yesterday (or was it the day before)?

An honest man with Harry’s opinion might have used strong words privately with the President. But anyone with a sense of decency would have looked at the Baghdad news and known to keep quiet in front of reporters.

Try this fool for treason. Now!

Anton on April 19, 2007 at 7:44 PM

even Baghdad Bob was saying they were winning right up until the tanks came.

Baghdad Bob had bigger balls than Harry Reid! (bumper sticker?)

However, it does take a certain something, to flip the bird to the troops in a routine basis.

Topsecretk9 on April 19, 2007 at 7:46 PM

This business of reacting to day to day reports as if they represent something larger is just like what the global warming chicken littles do. If it’s a hot day, it’s “Global warming, global warming.” Of course if you have a mild hurricane season, or a cold spring, then it’s crickets chirping. Same thing here. Nothing to say about all the progress, but have a couple of bad days, and “All is lost, all is lost!” Putzes.

smellthecoffee on April 19, 2007 at 7:50 PM

This business of reacting to day to day reports as if they represent something larger is just like what the global warming chicken littles do. If it’s a hot day, it’s “Global warming, global warming.” Of course if you have a mild hurricane season, or a cold spring, then it’s crickets chirping. Same thing here. Nothing to say about all the progress, but have a couple of bad days, and “All is lost, all is lost!” Putzes.

smellthecoffee on April 19, 2007 at 7:50 PM

the White House is saying he didn’t tell the President any such thing. That’s what Brit Hume said tonight on Special Report. Plus, Reid’s now supporting Feingold’s defund the war bill according to Mara Liason.

I was wondering if this would be the case…be great if they got the whole meeting memorialized on film…and does this man change his mind every other second or just have tourettes?

…didn’t Webb and some other Dem dips*&% claim they spit in Bush’s face (figure of speech) only to be shot down as not only a coward, but liar too?

Topsecretk9 on April 19, 2007 at 7:50 PM

Exit question: If the war is lost, why did Reid invite Petraeus to brief the Senate next Wednesday?

Because Patraeus doesn’t believe the war is lost. Reid intends to correct this notion, because he thinks he knows more about wars and stuff than the guy in charge of conducting the war.

Can we send Reid a bag of little green army men to play with so he’ll stop messing with the real ones?

taznar on April 19, 2007 at 7:51 PM

I guess Reid got his dKos ratings up with this rant. That’s what really matters to him.

eagles5 on April 19, 2007 at 7:54 PM

With friends like Harry Reid, who needs enemies?

Lawrence on April 19, 2007 at 7:55 PM

They don’t see it as treason because they don’t believe Bush if the rightful President. They are so lost in their own egos and salivating over ’08 that they can’t see the harm this actually does our country.
God help them when the war is proven a success.

SouthernDem on April 19, 2007 at 7:56 PM

This is just the start. By this time next year Reid and his ilk will have the terrorists dancing in the streets to all the sound bytes. America is going to pay dearly for these traitors and their words. Our enemies love weak victims. Question is who will Americans blame?

Limerick on April 19, 2007 at 7:56 PM

Can we send Reid a bag of little green army men to play with so he’ll stop messing with the real ones?

I like it! Toy soldiers for the Dems to play with. How about a “Vent” to kick off the campaign?

RedWinged Blackbird on April 19, 2007 at 7:58 PM

I urge any Democrat who believes the war is lost to immediately go to Baghdad and surrender to the Jihadist while the rest of us fight on.

William Amos on April 19, 2007 at 8:00 PM

Imagine where this country would be if in late 1942 the senate majority leader had told FDR that the war against Germany and Japan was lost and could only be won diplomatically, politically, or economically. This POS is a traitor and citizens of the state of Nevada should be embarrassed that he is their senator.

dawgyear on April 19, 2007 at 8:01 PM

I cannot believe that this POS would rather make sure his little stupid, POS democraps get the White House in ’08. I cannot fathom ever voting for someone with a D behind their name ever again. I cannot believe that there are stupid people in America who find that the dims are more favorable than the GOP. I don’t know if they sleep even with Lunesta or Ambien but then again do they have a conscience anyway?

Catie96706 on April 19, 2007 at 8:12 PM

Well, we DO KNOW one thing for sure…

Whenever a crazed gunman is trying to break into the room, you can’t rely on “Give ‘em Hell Harry” to hold the door.

franksalterego on April 19, 2007 at 8:13 PM

Let me put a different spin on this. . .

Reid and Pelosi are the symptoms of the real problem. The real problem is that the American people elect these folks. The American people do not hold them accountable. The American people do not hold the MSM accountable when they twist the news.

Let’s face it. The Republican’s deserved to lose the last election, but the Democrats certainly didn’t deserve to win. We have two really crummy parties right now and this is only because the American people have not held them or the media accountable. The 2006 election was like curing scurvy by giving the patient cancer.

What I fear most is that the Democrats scorched earth strategy against Bush will work. They’ll drive the US out of the War Against Terror and make every patriotic young man and woman in this country hesitant to join the military. When we went into Iraq public opinion was 80% in favor of. Now that we’re there, what percentage of people will abandon the missions and (more importantly) the fine Americans fighting? And who will sacrifice much, possibly even their lives, to defend an America that will so quickly turn its back on their heroism?

This is just a fear. I’m not sure that we’re at that point yet. But this is the direction Reid/MoveOn are trying to herd public opinion–all because they hate conservatives.

cmay on April 19, 2007 at 8:14 PM

Michelle’s reader, Mark, had it right…

It is not only unpatriotic, and cowardly, but it is treasonous! He may be directing his hatred at the President but clearly his words aid the enemy.

Reid should resign.

Zorro on April 19, 2007 at 6:55 PM

Reid should be forcibly removed, presently.

Viper1 on April 19, 2007 at 8:17 PM

every republican should stand arm and arm at the capital and scorn this man…to bad they are more united against Alberton. Really sad.

tomas on April 19, 2007 at 8:25 PM

Scumbag!!!

NEMETI IN SYRACUSE on April 19, 2007 at 8:28 PM

If Harry Reid was president on Dec 7, 1941 he would have pulled out of Hawaii, he would have surrendered to the British when they burned the White House in 1812, and would have kissed the ring of the King when George Washington’s troops were freezing in Valley Forge.

pedestrian on April 19, 2007 at 8:36 PM

What a marvelous Jerk-off! This guy is the poster boy of slime, crap, and never, never can you make this stuff up!!

NEMETI IN SYRACUSE on April 19, 2007 at 8:38 PM

The republicans should have hearings on the democrats behavior and talk about the guidelines for treason. You can’t win if you don’t play the game boys.

tomas on April 19, 2007 at 8:53 PM

With friends like Harry Reid, who needs enemies?

Lawrence on April 19, 2007 at 7:55 PM

Friends? Al Qaeda and Iran must love the jerk.

Kini on April 19, 2007 at 9:05 PM

screw harry and his ilk….

robo on April 19, 2007 at 9:06 PM

Has anyone seen Harry shopping for burqas?

Kini on April 19, 2007 at 9:20 PM

The republicans should have hearings on the democrats behavior and talk about the guidelines for treason. You can’t win if you don’t play the game boys.

republicans are the minority; they can’t call hearings can they? and where else would they go? some of the republicans have the same opinion anyways.

lorien1973 on April 19, 2007 at 9:22 PM

Every single dime of Rep money in Nevada needs to go to a defeat/recall Reid effort. Loud and public. I’m sure they will recover the expense from others sympathetic to the cause. To hell with playing the game the old way. Time to pick up the Louisville slugger and have at it.

Limerick on April 19, 2007 at 9:31 PM

tomas
every republican should stand arm and arm at the capital and scorn this man

If GOP congressmen and Presidential candidates are not on every TV show tomorrow asking for Reid’s resignation, I will be most ashamed of the GOP.

faraway on April 19, 2007 at 9:35 PM

I’ve been posting for months about the sickness that is the democrat party’s encouragement and enabling of the enemies of America who are killing our young men and women in Iraq.

If we had a president with balls and half a brain, the democrats would be shamed to go so far back in their dark, wet cave, that we wouldn’t hear a peep from them.

Labamigo on April 19, 2007 at 9:39 PM

republicans are the minority; they can’t call hearings can they? and where else would they go? some of the republicans have the same opinion anyways.

The democrats held hearings in the minority…it doesn’t need to be sanctioned. You bring people in to illustrate what idiots they are.

tomas on April 19, 2007 at 9:48 PM

Ah yes… Harry and me, bowing towards Mecca three times each day. Birds are singing, flowers are blooming and the sweet aroma of Jihad fills the air.

Harry will have first place in the new Caliphate.

CliffHanger on April 19, 2007 at 10:42 PM

I wonder if General…. err, I mean Senator Reid will be offended when he doesn’t hear what he wants to hear from the actual General in charge?.

Too many Democrats and even a few Republicans *coughHagelcough* are practically tripping over themselves to surrender and admit defeat to score political points and it matters not one bit to them what impact that would have on the troops on the ground. That’s not only unacceptable, it’s flat out un-American IMO. To hell with what you think is best for your political party, what about what’s best for America?!?!

Yakko77 on April 19, 2007 at 10:45 PM

Exit question: If the war is lost, why did Reid invite Petraeus to brief the Senate next Wednesday?

Don’t just ask that question, AP.

If we’ve really lost the war, why did they just advise the Bu$$$hitler to stop the war instead of, you know, ending the war we’ve already lost.

If they’re willing to throw troops’ lives away, fighting a war we’ve already lost, they really must hate the troops.

Nethicus on April 19, 2007 at 10:49 PM

I’d only be “piling on” if I expressed my disgust with Traitor-Harry.

georgej on April 19, 2007 at 11:05 PM

Yes, me and Harry, with prayer rugs tucked under our arms and Korans in hand, we strolled along the walk until we got to a place where we could sit and think of another time, a darker time when life was so much more complicated.

It was a hard life in this former democracy, where decisions were made based upon each individual’s own moral code. We remembered the personal responsibility, crime, stress and headaches of those foregone days. We reflected how all was almost lost by a handful of “patriotic” Americans, pig-dog Jews and Crusader Christians who stubbornly resisted the inevitable approach of Islamic dominance of North America.

And at this moment, we gave our praise and thanks to Allah for Sharia law. No more guessing about what was right or wrong. It was all now laid out before us by our leaders. Life was now as it should be and it was good.

I turned towards Harry, and with tears in my eyes, I kissed his hand and thanked him for all he had done to lay the groundwork that gave birth to this glorious new nation once called the United States of America.

CliffHanger on April 19, 2007 at 11:39 PM

Not going to link, but

Iraq war ‘lost’ says top Democrat
Aljazeera.net

Topsecretk9 on April 20, 2007 at 12:22 AM

Did the leader of the Senate just surrender America to aq in front of the world?

And then change his mind, come back, and tell us that what he really meant was, as long as the President of the United States is in charge, we’ve lost? Only by ‘changing course’ and giving in to defeat can we truely win?

This is America, you worthless sniveling weasel. Not Fwance.

Our enemies have got to be dancing in the streets. You couldn’t ask for a better tool than reid (well, I take that back; pelosi has gotta be up there on the enemy list of useful tools). Ya know, it’s amazing that so many people of such stunningly shallow character are so common at the highest levels of the democrat party.

This is treason. This is serious. Somebody DO something, damnit (looking at you, GOP and Sane Democrats).

Reid needs to be forced to resign. He is a national disgrace. It’s time for this crap to stop. It’s dangerous to our national security.

Weakness is provocative.

techno_barbarian on April 20, 2007 at 12:35 AM

I’ll bite, proof of Treason, thank you Harry……. let none of you forget this day.

PinkyBigglesworth on April 20, 2007 at 12:36 AM

Oh, and

Run! Fred! Run!

techno_barbarian on April 20, 2007 at 12:38 AM

“United 93″ was on cable tonight…. just a bunch of average Americans fighting back against those who would kill us, but not harry ried.

Worth a second post…….

For “Sam“…. and the rest of our honored fallen….

PinkyBigglesworth on April 20, 2007 at 12:52 AM

Better yet, little harry ried, this is for you….. {warning strong language

PinkyBigglesworth on April 20, 2007 at 1:04 AM

We need more, not less, of Democrats speaking their hearts like this. As I never tire of saying, what is most dangerous about them isn’t their agenda, but the fact that they so cleverly disguise and then so effectively sell their agenda. Those rare occasions when they express what they are really about are a relief, like now, with Reid demanding another American defeat in war.

Americans who can’t accept that Democrats actually want America defeated by al-Qaeda don’t understand the psychosis that lies at the core of modern liberalism. It’s the same psychosis that fuels their “global warming” madness, their compulsion to cripple the nuclear family, their sympathetic view of Marxism, etc etc, which is: “Evil is the victim of Good” (thank you, Evan Sayat). 9/11 presented them with an unsolvable, for them, and maddening dilemma: taking sides against fascism (now, in Islamic colors) entailed taking sides for America, and taking sides for America entailed renouncing their own fundamentalist religion, political correctness. Only a literal handful (out of millions) of them were capable of doing this, and given the moral cowardice necessary to be politically correct, that’s not surprising.

I hope more of them come out, like Reid, and wax elequent about al-Qaeda victories and the hopelessness of American power. The young need to see whose side they are really on.

Halley on April 20, 2007 at 1:06 AM

No, harry, the United States of America has the best trained forces in the world today, you lost today…..

PinkyBigglesworth on April 20, 2007 at 1:44 AM

harry {yes, small “h”}, you might have lost, but I will never, just because I don’t know the word ….. because of them…

PinkyBigglesworth on April 20, 2007 at 1:57 AM

Sorry folks, I just can’t let this go, little missy reid has really rubbed me the wrong way with {we lost}, really… tell it to them you Michael Foxtrot…

PinkyBigglesworth on April 20, 2007 at 2:19 AM

This is why this little man, this goof ball, this halfling, will never be Commander in Chief.

Kini on April 20, 2007 at 3:22 AM

Reid is an ass. A great big ass. And guess what? These comments are gonna bit him… in the ASS.

Rick Donaldson on April 20, 2007 at 8:45 AM

Dirty Harry (who is on the take for everything) should be thrown in prison for giving aid and comfort to our enemies. He can join his pal and commrade in arms Pelosi over there. Who are the dimwits who vote these anti-American idiots into office?

lynnv on April 20, 2007 at 8:46 AM

Dirty harry SURRENDER reid has DISHONORED the United States…he has DISHONORED our President…he has DISHONORED our troops…he has DECLARED VICTORY for our enemies…he needs to be impeached and tried for treason…

areseaoh on April 20, 2007 at 9:10 AM

Fox News is reporting that the Prez is going to ‘address Reid’s remarks’ at 1:00 PM. Could it be that W’s finally had enough of this crap? May he’ll offer to send Reid to Iraq so he can surrender to the enemy.

RedWinged Blackbird on April 20, 2007 at 11:16 AM

Fox News is reporting that the Prez is going to ‘address Reid’s remarks’ at 1:00 PM. Could it be that W’s finally had enough of this crap? May he’ll offer to send Reid to Iraq so he can surrender to the enemy.

RedWinged Blackbird on April 20, 2007 at 11:16 AM

*******FOX NEWS ALERT: PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT IN (30 MINUTES) INDICTMENT OF REID FOR AIDING AND ABETTING ENEMY!*******STOCK MARKET REACTS:13,020!*******PELOSI, MURTHA, DURBIN, RANGLE & 11 OTHERS SEEN PILING IN TO TED KENNEDY’S SUV AND HEADING TOWARD POTOMAC AT HIGH SPEED*******

Hey, RedWinged Blackbird isn’t the only one allowed to have a fantasy around here, right?

NightmareOnKStreet on April 20, 2007 at 12:50 PM

Reid has jumped the shark with this one. Jumped. the. shark!

There’s no way a congressman could be treasonous enough for the far left, but for most sane people, an elected representative of this country does not speak this way about an ongoing military conflict. This is Tokyo Rose Territory. What a bastid!

Nice Deb on April 20, 2007 at 1:00 PM

Well, that sucks! The news networks cut away from the Prez speech. Fox just cut away to report on… wait for it…. Anna Nicole Smith!

We’re doomed.

CliffHanger on April 20, 2007 at 1:20 PM

Birkhead: “I’m calling my travel agent!”

Lord, please take me home! Pleeezzz… Amen!

CliffHanger on April 20, 2007 at 1:22 PM

My email to Harry Reid:

The Democratic Party is in a conflict of interest between the interests of America and millions of suffering people abroad, and it’s own political fortunes. It has willingly placed itself there, and most Americans can see that plainly.

I want you to know that I and many other Americans have very long memories. If we are so fortunate in the future to see in Iraq a beacon of freedom and enlightenment in the Middle East: a strong ally to replace the one that Iran once was, until it was cast into darkness by another feckless Democrat, then you will be trying no doubt to take credit just like you now claim to have supported the Cold-war-ending work of Reagan. We will not let you. We will make sure your perfidy is exposed to every American, and your party is held up as the very example of faithlessness that it is.

YOU ARE A DISGRACE: RESIGN BEFORE YOU DAMAGE YOUR COUNTRY FURTHER!

drunyan8315 on April 20, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Shep Smith just lost it on Fox news…

A commentator was saying that we had built thousands of schools in the last few years in Iraq, Smith basicly said he was wrong… Guy was making a point about the propoganda war….

Smith now believes the was is lost…. sad… maybe he can go be Reid’s PR guy.

Romeo13 on April 20, 2007 at 3:31 PM

This man needs a clean DSM IV to clear him for office.

bloviator on April 20, 2007 at 4:17 PM

Last week there was a story in the BBC that was completely positively about the security situation in Iraq. Not one caveat was mentioned. There was a feeling of unreality about it. But I suspect this is just a sign they will ignore Iraq hereafter and the space will be filled with stories of the tens of millions of unemployed.

snaggletoothie on January 21, 2008 at 1:11 PM