I guess we should just completely eliminate our statutory rape laws.

Gregor on April 19, 2007 at 5:55 PM

Oh, you live in Trinidad? What the heck does this have to do with “our statutory rape laws”? It didn’t happen here. That’s part of the point Einstein.

Get a grip… so to speak.

Johnny Soong, owner of the Zen nightclub and one of the promoters of last Thursday’s “Akon in Concert” said yesterday that the club has an age limit of 18 years and over.

Soong, who is out of the country, was contacted for comment on the highly publicised controversial dance by Akon and 14-year-old Deena Alleyne, daughter of pastor Dave Alleyne.

“Patrons have to be 18 years to purchase tickets when we sell tickets for our events,” Soong said yesterday.

“We do check persons IDs. Obviously she got through the crack.

Such as? I mean, seriously, give me an example. I know of a couple, but what do you consider “good hiphop” – and you casn’t go back 20 years either, we’re talking right now.

Anyone hiphop “star” who doesn’t swear, demean women, trash-talk cops, promote drug use and thuggery, etc… is ostracized on by the rest of the hip-hop world for being to good, aka, too white. Will Smith comes to mind.

Even the female hip-hop “stars” manage to demean themselves.

reaganaut on April 19, 2007 at 3:50 PM

I agree that HiP hOp is completely broken.

I just think it is a more open expression of the brokenness of society.

The saddest thing is that good krews and groups that are good who do have positive effect on music and society are never known by society and never break through into the level that these degrading musicians and krews have.

Groups I suggest:

Pigeon John One of the funniest guys I have ever personally known. He has a wife, loves her dearly and she is definitely a Proverbs 31 woman and beautiful too.

If you look on mininova you can find his latest album. I recommend his song Money Back Guarantee

LA Symphony A shadow of the crew that they were, but still a great group. If you ever run across their song, “Champion Bird Watcher” grab it. Best song ever from them, from the album, “Call it What You Want

Mars Ill They have two samples on My Space The website isn’t much, but their albums are great, if you can get The Sphere of Hip Hop both Parts 1 and 2 from here Both are outstanding songs, but Part 2 is better.

And finally, Flynn Adam I do know the guys has a BS in Systematic Theology.

So there are good groups out there, but you’ll need to seek them out and you won’t see them in the magazines.

Apologize to Allah for the links. I’m getting no money for them or anything other than trying to get the word out about groups that are a positive force to society and especially to women. Case in point: Loves Not and Alpha Male, both by Mars Ill

RightWinged on April 19, 2007 at 4:47 PM

This guy is a class a scumbag who has spent a lot of time in the joint.

I’ve been following Akon’s “career” for a couple of years. Besides pushing his polygamy and the Muslim religion in his obscene rap lyrics, he is an ex-con, served time for armed robbery and drug-dealing, and–the most outrageous–was featured a week ago on “American Idol,” where he’s being marketed to kids. My jaw dropped when I saw him on that show. And he’s an anchor baby, too. Read the details of all of this.

Debbie Schlussel on April 19, 2007 at 6:22 PM

Thank you Debbie. I am woefully out of touch with things like this. I have to do better. At least two of my grandchildren, ages 13 and 14, have asked me to buy them this punk’s music. It ain’t happenin’.

I suppose I’m thankful he didn’t pull this stunt at Nickelodeon’s Kids’ Choice Awards last month.

Talk about getting slimed.

saint kansas on April 19, 2007 at 3:25 PM

Nah, leave that to real role models like Lindsay Lohan at the Kid’s Choice awards.

http://www.stereogum.com/archives/002457.html

There are plenty of Mexican groupos who sing ballads of high praise for the cocaine trade, the druglords who move the cocaine, and the torture and murder of anyone who opposes them. Mexico borders America, and that type of violence and the cocaine trade spills over into America from Mexico EVERY DAY. Where’s the shock and awe for that?

Don’t you know there’s a war on?!?

You can’t rape the willing.

Yes you can, that’s why its called statutory rape.

It doesn’t matter whether the victim is willing or not, society has determined that some people simply cannot consent to intercourse. This can be because of age, mental ability, intoxication, and so on. Check your local laws for details.

You can’t simulate rape with an obviously willing participant either.

SilverStar830 on April 19, 2007 at 5:41 PM

You can’t? How is that? So if the girl WAS a minor, than it’s okay? Same with your comment on actual rape? So … if a 12 year old girl is willing, does your view apply? I guess we should just completely eliminate our statutory rape laws.

Rap star Cam’ron says there’s no situation — including a serial killer living next door — that would cause him to help police in any way, because to do so would hurt his music sales and violate his “code of ethics.”

More like a “commode of ethics” being flushed right down the tube.

18

or 14, you know what I mean.

dementia unbound on April 19, 2007 at 3:45 PM

I initially had the same thought, watched the video at MM’s, and yes, it’s the same girl. That being said, although I might be surprised to find she was 18, I don’t think it’s a total stretch to accept the possibility.

it’s hartdly worth the lather it’s got everyone worked up into. Apron (or whatever) is slime, there’s no doubt, but he simply did what so many many performers have done before him whether it’s biting the heads off birds on stage, sex on stage, spitting blood on stage, dressed up in giant sex toy costumes… you name it.

SilverStar830 on April 19, 2007 at 5:41 PM

I guess it’s okay then, since it’s all been done before. No worries.

Oh wait. There’s been many mass murders before Virginia Tech. Many have done the exact same thing before, so why are we all so worked up about it. Let’s just accept it.

Duh.

You seem stuck on this “rape tirade” thing. They were all willing and he DID NOT simulate rape. The girl had her legs thrown up in the air SIMULATING PLEASURE.

Anyway, I don’t agree with it but it’s hartdly worth the lather it’s got everyone worked up into. Apron (or whatever) is slime, there’s no doubt, but he simply did what so many many performers have done before him whether it’s biting the heads off birds on stage, sex on stage, spitting blood on stage, dressed up in giant sex toy costumes… you name it.

here rape simulated (not just dry humping dancing) you think NO BIG DEAL

Up in the other thread that discusses nbc releasing the cho video you say you basically were shocked and that the MSM has no conscience showing the video. I’m paraphrasing atm..but will just scroll on your future posts seeing that you are a bit whacko in what you place in importance.

I got you down now though:

simulated rape by a rapper: EH no big deal
releasing a tape by cho to understand what went wrong: Hey, the MSM did a bad thing!

They’re third world performers, with a third world audience, giving a third world performance, in a third world country.

meh… who cares?

SilverStar830 on April 19, 2007 at 4:37 PM

It’s attitudes such as this that have allowed, and actually assisted THIS country’s downward slide toward third world status.