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posted at 2:52 pm on April 19, 2007 by Bryan
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Sick. Sick, sick, sick. Expect to hear a lot about rapper Akon shortly. During a concert last week*, he held a contest that ended with, well, assault and battery.

A video of Akon dancing provocatively with a young lady has begun making its way around the internet. But not [all is] fun and games in the video.

MediaTakeOut.com has learned that the girl getting “freaked” in the video may only be 14 years old.

And that’s not all. MediaTakeOut.com spoke to a person claiming to be the child’s guardian – and she’s furious. According to the woman, the young girl was plucked from the audience by Akon’s security and pushed up on stage.

The woman explains, “When she went up [on stage], Akon started throwing her around like a doll … and made all kinds of sexual gestures to her. That’s not for a grown man to do to a child.” The lady continues, “The man could have killed her – you should have seen her when she [came] home. She was covered in bruises.”

He’ll claim that assaulting a girl in public is just art that’s true to his “experience.”

Michelle has been following the story and is updating as new information comes in.

*I originally wrote that this occurred last night, but the concert was last week.

Update: Untangle this, just sent in by Tammy Bruce. Viacom owns CBS. Viacom also owns Famous Music. CBS just fired Dom Imus for his comments about the Rutgers women’s basketball team. But Famous Music has Akon up as its featured writer.

Update: Reader JaHerer22 thinks this whole thing was a publicity stunt, that the women involved were in on it, and bases that opinion on this article. But read the article. It was a stunt, but I don’t see anything in that article about any of the women involved being professional dancers or being in on it. There was a con, perpetrated by Akon, on the women and on the audience, in that he fooled them all into thinking he was holding a real contest. All he really seems to have been doing was using his star power to enable an assault.

Update: Rappers are such nice people.

Rap star Cam’ron says there’s no situation — including a serial killer living next door — that would cause him to help police in any way, because to do so would hurt his music sales and violate his “code of ethics.” Cam’ron, whose real name is Cameron Giles, talks to Anderson Cooper for a report on how the hip-hop culture’s message to shun the police has undermined efforts to solve murders across the country. Cooper’s report will be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, April 22 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

“If I knew the serial killer was living next door to me?” Giles responds to a hypothetical question posed by Cooper. “I wouldn’t call and tell anybody on him — but I’d probably move,” says Giles. “But I’m not going to call and be like, ‘The serial killer’s in 4E.’ “


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Dude, I hope she took pictures of the bruises and is talking with police right now. What he did is inappropriate and wrong to do to any woman, but a 14 year old is even worse. I’m not surprised by anything that these people do to be honest.

Bad Candy on April 19, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Only art..

Wade on April 19, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Where are the Justice Brothers when you need them. [Rush]

Kini on April 19, 2007 at 2:59 PM

This has been debunked; it was all staged, part of a concert promotion.

The contest was fake, the girl was a hired professional and was not underage.

You can read all about it and see her picture here.

JaHerer22 on April 19, 2007 at 2:59 PM

“Freak Dancing? You all are so old fashioned. Everyone’s doing it.” I know I’ll be hearing that one from the students in my ministry. And to think I like a song by the guy. R Kelly anyone?

danarchy on April 19, 2007 at 3:01 PM

It would be interesting to know a couple of more details:

(a) Was the girl in attendance with an adult?
(b) Did the girl’s mother know the types of lyrics the rapper sang?
(c) If yes to b, then why allow her to attend the concert in the first place?

This is not shifting blame to the victim, simply questioning where the mother was in the events prior.

Bradky on April 19, 2007 at 3:02 PM

Maybe I should adjust my screen but is the guy in the Hot Air front page (I can’t follow the MM link at work) this guy?

Although, Wikipedia tells us he’s a Muslim. So that’ll make things a-okay for Akon nee “Aliaune Damala Bouga Time Puru Nacka Lu Lu Lu Badara Akon Thiam”

BillLalor on April 19, 2007 at 3:02 PM

Where’s AL? Where’s Jesse? Where’s Obama? Where’s…Oh forget it!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on April 19, 2007 at 3:03 PM

JaHerer22 on April 19, 2007 at 2:59 PM

Good catch. If this really was a publicity stunt, it’s extremely shrewd considering that we’re reading about it here and on MM’s blog.

Enrique on April 19, 2007 at 3:04 PM

I think you’re misunderstanding who conned who, JH. The ladies were conned into thinking that the contest was real. The audience was likewise conned. I don’t see anything in that article about the women being professional dancers or in on the con. They were its victims.

Bryan on April 19, 2007 at 3:04 PM

George Washington’s fault!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZCNrf0IH_U

lorien1973 on April 19, 2007 at 3:06 PM

Found this interesting little article on the Fox News web site regarding racism in GA. It is a reprint of an AP story and I have read the entire thing and nowhere do I find any reference to the good governors political party. Being a resident of the state however and knowing that Sonny Perdue is the first Republican governor of the state I figgered it out.

STATESBORO, Ga. — At the end of Act One, the tenor wearing a white suit and trademark red suspenders clutches his fat cigar in a smoldering rage.

“I’m not gonna put up with any social equality in this state as long as I’m governor,” he sings in a dark, resonant voice. “We don’t need no Negroes and white people taught together.”

The segregationist Gov. Eugene Talmadge, still one of Georgia’s most theatrical political figures 60 years after his death, is taking center stage again _ this time as the villain in an opera.

“A Scholar Under Siege,” composed by Georgia Southern University music professor Michael Braz, tells the true story of how Talmadge in 1941 fired the college’s president amid suspicions that he supported integrating the school.

LakeRuins on April 19, 2007 at 3:07 PM

Can I say, “Her guardian took her. So I suppose she got her what she wanted!”?

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on April 19, 2007 at 3:07 PM

This has been debunked; it was all staged, part of a concert promotion.

The contest was fake, the girl was a hired professional and was not underage.

You can read all about it and see her picture here.

JaHerer22 on April 19, 2007 at 2:59 PM

If you read the article in that link I’m not sure it debunks the claims made in this post. The case is hardly closed at this point.

Chad on April 19, 2007 at 3:08 PM

I just read the link JH gave and it says nothing about her being a hired pro.

EnochCain on April 19, 2007 at 3:09 PM

International superstar Akon lived up to his name as he conned seven ladies into dancing onstage during his performance on Thursday night at the Zen nightclub in Port of Spain.

The star from Senegal managed to convince the ladies, who made their way onstage, that they were taking part in a global contest and that they could earn a fabulous grand prize trip to Africa if they won.

The competition was then filmed by Akon’s crew and later revealed to be a mere sham for the entertainment of the audience present, and an even greater potential global audience, as he promised to upload the footage onto the popular Internet video website http://www.youtube.com.

Not sure how this disproves the story, JH.

Slublog on April 19, 2007 at 3:12 PM

Bryan on April 19, 2007 at 3:04 PM

This was all over Digg earlier and there were links to several articles about the con. One of then claimed that the “winner” was hired…I’ll try to find that link.

Even if I’m wrong, I have tough time believing she’s 14 from that picture, but I guess you never know. And she looks pretty happy, but I guess that could be before she was violated.

JaHerer22 on April 19, 2007 at 3:15 PM

Why does it matter if it was a con or not? I thought we threw out the “bad joke” excuse with Imus. If CBS has any integrity (hee) then he should be publicly humiliated and fired.

JackStraw on April 19, 2007 at 3:17 PM

Icky. But at least it is not VTech and Cho boy.

bopbottle on April 19, 2007 at 3:19 PM

This has been debunked; it was all staged, part of a concert promotion.

The contest was fake, the girl was a hired professional and was not underage.

JaHerer22 on April 19, 2007 at 2:59 PM

Aside from the contest being a sham, the article you link to doesn’t state what you claim it does. It says nothing about the age of the female in question, or whether she was paid. It simply states that she and six others were persuaded to “volunteer” to go up on stage and be treated like animals …. by another animal.

But that misses a larger point – what could pass as a simulated “clothed rape” onstage is entertainment?

I’d ordinarily be tempted to think that this is a classic example of what the islamists would call “decadent and debauched Western culture,” except that Akon is himself a apparently a Mohammedan; no doubt it’s just an illustration of how respected women are in that culture, yes?

Spurius Ligustinus on April 19, 2007 at 3:20 PM

Let it be known I’m not trying defend Akon or public dry humping…I just want to get the facts out there.

JaHerer22 on April 19, 2007 at 3:21 PM

I suppose I’m thankful he didn’t pull this stunt at Nickelodeon’s Kids’ Choice Awards last month.

Talk about getting slimed.

saint kansas on April 19, 2007 at 3:25 PM

We’re all about the facts, but the article you linked doesn’t support what you said. Maybe you thought I wouldn’t read it?

Bryan on April 19, 2007 at 3:26 PM

Found the Digg link.

Here’s the summary:

Unfortunately I was also fooled. It turns out that the girl was part of a fake contest which was nothing but a sham to get the crowd excited. There is a picture included in the article and as you can see, this girl is clearly over the legal age!

Emphasis mine. Not much in the way of proof there.

Slublog on April 19, 2007 at 3:27 PM

It would be interesting to know a couple of more details:

(a) Was the girl in attendance with an adult?
(b) Did the girl’s mother know the types of lyrics the rapper sang?
(c) If yes to b, then why allow her to attend the concert in the first place?

This is not shifting blame to the victim, simply questioning where the mother was in the events prior.

Bradky on April 19, 2007 at 3:02 PM

I’m really not in the mood for a p*ssing match, but that’s like blaming the murdered students at VT just for being in class. It doesn’t matter if the mom knew or not – this rapper had no right to do this. That being said, I’d never take MY daughter to a concert like this.

It will be interesting to see how CBS reacts/responds to this one. i’m sure they’ll say it’s just “art.”

pullingmyhairout on April 19, 2007 at 3:27 PM

This is disgusting and if the girl is underage she should never have been allowed to attend.

I could be wrong but I thought general Islamic belief was that the problem is not within themselves, but in society. So they feel free to do whatever they please, whenever they please, and cast all responsibility and blame on society and any women who are uncovered “meat”. They are so legalistic and harsh and repressive because they totally ignore personal responsibility for sin.

INC on April 19, 2007 at 3:28 PM

I just had this mental image of Bill O’Reilly trying to interview Cam’ron about his comments re: cooperating with the police. “Who’s looking out for you? It’s not this guy…”

CP on April 19, 2007 at 3:30 PM

Good job Slublog. That Digg link goes to the same article that JH used. It says nothing about her age at all, nor does it say anything about her or the other women being in on the con. As I said earlier, based on that article alone, the women and the audience were its targets and the girl in the video was its main victim.

That article is not exculpatory in any way.

Bryan on April 19, 2007 at 3:34 PM

I smell an Olby moment in the making, then SatNiteLive, a new mall size house, maybe a professorship in music. Ain’t America grand.

Limerick on April 19, 2007 at 3:38 PM

Cam’ron says there’s no situation — including a serial killer living next door — that would cause him to help police in any way, because to do so would hurt his music sales and violate his “code of ethics.”

I ask again, where are the Justice Brothers?

You know, when Elvis shook his hips it was a big flap, couldn’t show anything below the waist. That was then and this is now. Call me old fashion, but I don’t find this artistic in any way. Besides, when dogs hump each other that’s because they’re animals. I don’t know what you call these…. people. I guess that’s why they call it HipHop?
CRAP

Kini on April 19, 2007 at 3:39 PM

Slublog on April 19, 2007 at 3:27 PM

So he is supposed to be cleared because a girl looks older than she really is?….yeah thats never happened.

EnochCain on April 19, 2007 at 3:39 PM

undoubtably disgusting…
and why is it that the rappers that cause this type of controversy are always the one’s that suck anyway? And its repulisve because it distorts people’s perception of actual good hip hop. It’s Similar to if Avril Lavigne had a scandal which made people think punk rock was bad for America.

crr6 on April 19, 2007 at 3:40 PM

crr6 on April 19, 2007 at 3:40 PM

Avril Lavigne had a scandal?…wait she is supposed to be punk rock? lol

EnochCain on April 19, 2007 at 3:41 PM

I think you’re misunderstanding who conned who, JH. The ladies were conned into thinking that the contest was real. The audience was likewise conned. I don’t see anything in that article about the women being professional dancers or in on the con. They were its victims.

Bryan on April 19, 2007 at 3:04 PM

I agree. JH, nowhere does it say that these ladies were in on it.

Even if I’m wrong, I have tough time believing she’s 14 from that picture, but I guess you never know. And she looks pretty happy, but I guess that could be before she was violated.

JaHerer22 on April 19, 2007 at 3:15 PM

Are you serious?? “she looks pretty happy”?? – she’s a kid who happened to get picked by an international star (who she happens to be of fan of) to go on stage – and, it happens to be in front of an audience.

As for her looking older than 14, some people mature at early ages.

Rick on April 19, 2007 at 3:42 PM

It’s Similar to if Avril Lavigne had a scandal which made people think punk rock was bad for America.

crr6 on April 19, 2007 at 3:40 PM

You lost me on that one.

Rick on April 19, 2007 at 3:43 PM

Wait a second – international superstar Akon. I suppose I should be grateful I’ve never heard of him?

Great guy – that Cam’ron, I hope nothing bad happens to him.
Good thing rap isn’t influencing our kids – oh wait, did I just see a caterpillar on Nick Jr. talking about shaking his booty?
Hmm, what’s this? A kid’s show on ABC Family where an adult is showing a 10 year old how to do a “pimp-walk”. Where’s the outrage!

Hahahaha.

Well, at least my kids will grow up normal.

I’m sure the hip-hop summit will straighten everything out…

reaganaut on April 19, 2007 at 3:44 PM

I’d like to point out the caption describes the girl in that picture as “one of the volunteers” to come on stage, but not necessarily the 14 year old; I can’t watch the video at work so I can’t compare but it should be simple enough to check the outfits the girl(or girls are wearing) to see if they are in fact the same girl.

dementia unbound on April 19, 2007 at 3:45 PM

From his Famous Music bio: “… in the tradition of pioneer R. Kelly…” Sigh. Black culture is broken, and all we can do is watch.

raybury on April 19, 2007 at 3:45 PM

I smell an Olby moment in the making, then SatNiteLive, a new mall size house, maybe a professorship in music. Ain’t America grand.

Limerick on April 19, 2007 at 3:38 PM

Are you standing in sewage or something?

Rick on April 19, 2007 at 3:45 PM

actual good hip hop

Such as? I mean, seriously, give me an example. I know of a couple, but what do you consider “good hiphop” – and you casn’t go back 20 years either, we’re talking right now.

Anyone hiphop “star” who doesn’t swear, demean women, trash-talk cops, promote drug use and thuggery, etc… is ostracized on by the rest of the hip-hop world for being to good, aka, too white. Will Smith comes to mind.

Even the female hip-hop “stars” manage to demean themselves.

reaganaut on April 19, 2007 at 3:50 PM

Speaking of hos pr0n rappers, I’m thinking this shot of Barack Obama and Ludacris would make for a fun post-Imus caption contest.

saint kansas on April 19, 2007 at 3:50 PM

Boozle!

Mojave Mark on April 19, 2007 at 3:51 PM

You lost me on that one.

lol i guess my point was that avril lavigne is not representative of punk rock just like Akon is not representative of hip-hop. Some people will likely judge hip-hop as a whole based off someone who is nowhere near being a fair representation of it.

crr6 on April 19, 2007 at 3:52 PM

Even the female hip-hop “stars” manage to demean themselves.

reaganaut on April 19, 2007 at 3:50 PM

You mean like Fergie?

Rick on April 19, 2007 at 3:53 PM

undoubtably disgusting…
and why is it that the rappers that cause this type of controversy are always the one’s that suck anyway?

You mean there are rappers who are actually good? I thought all rap sucked. but then again, I’m a zepplin/z.z. top kind of gal.

pullingmyhairout on April 19, 2007 at 3:56 PM

Rick, I think that was sarcasm. Get the vibe.

As for the rap culture, this is compelling evidence that they are a lower form of life.

Jaibones on April 19, 2007 at 3:57 PM

Such as? I mean, seriously, give me an example. I know of a couple, but what do you consider “good hiphop” – and you casn’t go back 20 years either, we’re talking right now.

talib kweli, mos def (for the most part),binary star, nas, de la soul, common…all have an album out within the 5-6 years and all are excellent artists. I don’t blame you for thinking there aren’t any examples though, they’re rarely spotlighted in the media, only crap like Akon.

heres my favorite kweli freestyle..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGvZ9aXg5Xs

crr6 on April 19, 2007 at 4:02 PM

crr6 on April 19, 2007 at 4:02 PM

I was actually being a bit snide in my comments. I know there are some good ones out there. I just prefer not to listen to it. Not my cup ‘o tea… :)

pullingmyhairout on April 19, 2007 at 4:07 PM

I see what you are saying. I was just a little confused on the comparisons. Rap emerged from hip hop, and is a segment of the hip hop culture.

Rick on April 19, 2007 at 4:13 PM

“The defense calls George Washington to the stand. It’s all his fault.”

I guess this freak-a-zoid missed the memo on the ‘Hip-Hop Summit’.
http://www.kansascity.com/232/story/75939.html

Plus, the latest entry from Jason Whitlock on this insanity.
http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/74573.html

locomotivebreath1901 on April 19, 2007 at 4:19 PM

I’m so sick of rappers and how nasty they are. There is no excuse to act this way. And people wanted Imus fired…bunch of bullshit. I don’t even like the guy but the rappers and their culture need to clean up…if that would be demanded then I could see the outrage about Imus..but since I don’t see it, what idiocy.

Highrise on April 19, 2007 at 4:19 PM

Will we see comments by sharpton and jj? Didn’t think so.

Highrise on April 19, 2007 at 4:20 PM

Isn’t this just wonderful. I just read this disgusting account from HollyScoop.com:

Park City Utah got a special treat on Monday night when Hollywood “Party Girl” Tara Reid got humped on stage by rapper Akon during his performance of “Smack That”

Nelly hosted the Budweiser Blender session at Tao and brought in a special performance by Akon. Akon rocked the crowd and even brought up three ladies from the audience to teach the crowd how to really “Smack That.”

Moments later, they stopped the song and Tara Reid was being led on stage by Nelly. Nelly asked Tara if she wanted to get the smack down from Akon. Tara kindly obliged and immediately began dancing to Akon. At the point, Akon grabbed her and literally humped her in front of hundreds of partygoers and continuously smacked her booty.

As Akon was humping her, his DJ thought he’d join in on the fun and they both sandwiched her while still humping and smacking her booty. All you could recollect from these images was a blonde being tossed around stage. Hollyscoop has an exclusive video capturing the entire Tara Reid fiasco which will be up very shortly…but in the meantime, enjoy the pics of Tara getting a wild ride on stage.

This is what our children are being fed by the big record labels as entertainment.Yet CBS chooses to throw Don Imus under the bus when they have this scumbag humping girls on stage.

The website HollyScoop is owned by Raymond Attipa of Glendale CA.

Follow this link and scroll down to see the photo of the guy that thinks this type of entertainment is a “special treat”.

ScottyDog on April 19, 2007 at 4:22 PM

HOT AIR coming to a newsstand near you…come on.

tomas on April 19, 2007 at 4:22 PM

I blame Imus.

tommy1 on April 19, 2007 at 4:23 PM

HOT AIR coming to a newsstand near you…come on.
tomas on April 19, 2007 at 4:22 PM

So they’re not supposed to point out stories that show the lack of respect for women in “hip-hop culture” and the inability or refusal of the media to expose it for what it is?

If anything, this story is important because it’s yet another example, and a particulary vile one if the girl is truly underage, of the rampant misogyny of many hip hop artists.

Slublog on April 19, 2007 at 4:28 PM

pullingmyhairout on April 19, 2007 at 3:27 PM

Perhaps you skipped over

This is not shifting blame to the victim, simply questioning where the mother was in the events prior.

Bradky on April 19, 2007 at 4:29 PM

Sorry, but I don’t understand all the broohaha over this. They’re third world performers, with a third world audience, giving a third world performance, in a third world country. Given where this incident took place, and where the performers and audience are from, I submit that despite the fact that no one was beheaded, hacked to pieces by machetes, or burned alive in a murderous fervor of genocidal rage, that was pretty tame for what they usually do for entertainment.

meh… who cares?

SilverStar830 on April 19, 2007 at 4:37 PM

Sorry, but I don’t understand all the broohaha over this. They’re third world performers, with a third world audience, giving a third world performance, in a third world country.

And they’re rap stars in America.

V15J on April 19, 2007 at 4:42 PM

meh… who cares?

SilverStar830

Pretty callous.

Highrise on April 19, 2007 at 4:45 PM

As a woman, I want to THANK you MEN who see what is wrong with this. And the others who don’t see this as a big deal that we should not write the company and put pressure on them, WOW, is all I can say.

Highrise on April 19, 2007 at 4:46 PM

Update: Untangle this, just sent in by Tammy Bruce. Viacom owns CBS. Viacom also owns Famous Music. CBS just fired Dom Imus for his comments about the Rutgers women’s basketball team. But Famous Music has Akon up as its featured writer.

Why is nobody exposing what a criminal this guy is!!!?

I just sent this message to Michelle

I’m not sure if you’re aware but Akon was recently featured on American Idol. I stopped by my parents’ house and my mom (as always) was watching it, and I informed her of the fact that this relatively young man has spent many years of his life behind bars (longs stints) for drug dealing, etc. This is a bad guy, yet he’s king of the world right now

He’s been in jail at least twice… and not for small beefs like possession or something. He was jailed first for ARMED ROBBERY AND DRUG DISTRIBUTION. Then he WAS LOCKED UP FOR 3 YEARS FOR GRAND THEFT AUTO!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akon

And calling Al “Diamond Merchants” Sharpton, AKON OWNS A DIAMOND MINE!

RightWinged on April 19, 2007 at 4:47 PM

That means what? It didn’t happen in America, so again I submit, who cares? It didn’t happen in America, it happened half a world away. It didn’t happen to an American, and where it did happen was in a country that is a longtime morally defunct place that cowtows to the Muslims and whose peoples have chosen their path. I don’t approve of it nor do I defend those reprobates, but it means nothing to us.

There are plenty of Mexican groupos who sing ballads of high praise for the cocaine trade, the druglords who move the cocaine, and the torture and murder of anyone who opposes them. Mexico borders America, and that type of violence and the cocaine trade spills over into America from Mexico EVERY DAY. Where’s the shock and awe for that?

This is tantamount to the news that two men had sex with eachother in San Francisco. Are people really that surprised and shocked something like this could happen where it did? I guess I just don’t get it…

SilverStar830 on April 19, 2007 at 4:59 PM

Pretty callous.

Highrise on April 19, 2007 at 4:45 PM

I’ll spare you my life story, but you go where I’ve been, and do what I do for a living, and see what I’ve seen over the last 25 years over & over & over again… and you’d understand why I may seem that way. I’m not getting pissy with you, please don’t misunderstand, it’s just the whole “walk a mile in someone else’s mocassins” kind of thing ;)

SilverStar830 on April 19, 2007 at 5:02 PM

why would you let your kid go to a rap concert?

Kaptain Amerika on April 19, 2007 at 5:05 PM

If we want to make the case about the misogyny and amorality of Hip-Hop, I submit Exhibit A: Tip Drill (NSFW-Level 5 Content Warning).

Kid from Brooklyn on April 19, 2007 at 5:05 PM

They’re third world performers, with a third world audience, giving a third world performance, in a third world country.

meh… who cares?

SilverStar830 on April 19, 2007 at 4:37 PM

It’s attitudes such as this that have allowed, and actually assisted THIS country’s downward slide toward third world status.

Gregor on April 19, 2007 at 5:17 PM

silverstar,

here rape simulated (not just dry humping dancing) you think NO BIG DEAL

Up in the other thread that discusses nbc releasing the cho video you say you basically were shocked and that the MSM has no conscience showing the video. I’m paraphrasing atm..but will just scroll on your future posts seeing that you are a bit whacko in what you place in importance.

I got you down now though:

simulated rape by a rapper: EH no big deal
releasing a tape by cho to understand what went wrong: Hey, the MSM did a bad thing!

Highrise on April 19, 2007 at 5:35 PM

You can’t rape the willing. You can’t simulate rape with an obviously willing participant either. We have no proof how old she was, but by the ‘looks’ of it, she’s a might bit older than 14 years old.

You seem stuck on this “rape tirade” thing. They were all willing and he DID NOT simulate rape. The girl had her legs thrown up in the air SIMULATING PLEASURE.

Anyway, I don’t agree with it but it’s hartdly worth the lather it’s got everyone worked up into. Apron (or whatever) is slime, there’s no doubt, but he simply did what so many many performers have done before him whether it’s biting the heads off birds on stage, sex on stage, spitting blood on stage, dressed up in giant sex toy costumes… you name it.

SilverStar830 on April 19, 2007 at 5:41 PM

it’s hartdly worth the lather it’s got everyone worked up into. Apron (or whatever) is slime, there’s no doubt, but he simply did what so many many performers have done before him whether it’s biting the heads off birds on stage, sex on stage, spitting blood on stage, dressed up in giant sex toy costumes… you name it.

SilverStar830 on April 19, 2007 at 5:41 PM

I guess it’s okay then, since it’s all been done before. No worries.

Oh wait. There’s been many mass murders before Virginia Tech. Many have done the exact same thing before, so why are we all so worked up about it. Let’s just accept it.

Duh.

Gregor on April 19, 2007 at 5:52 PM

dementia unbound on April 19, 2007 at 3:45 PM

I initially had the same thought, watched the video at MM’s, and yes, it’s the same girl. That being said, although I might be surprised to find she was 18, I don’t think it’s a total stretch to accept the possibility.

Bryce on April 19, 2007 at 5:53 PM

18

or 14, you know what I mean.

Bryce on April 19, 2007 at 5:53 PM

Rap star Cam’ron says there’s no situation — including a serial killer living next door — that would cause him to help police in any way, because to do so would hurt his music sales and violate his “code of ethics.”

More like a “commode of ethics” being flushed right down the tube.

SisterToldjah on April 19, 2007 at 5:55 PM

You can’t simulate rape with an obviously willing participant either.

SilverStar830 on April 19, 2007 at 5:41 PM

You can’t? How is that? So if the girl WAS a minor, than it’s okay? Same with your comment on actual rape? So … if a 12 year old girl is willing, does your view apply? I guess we should just completely eliminate our statutory rape laws.

Gregor on April 19, 2007 at 5:55 PM

Just a small correction:

You can’t rape the willing.

Yes you can, that’s why its called statutory rape.

It doesn’t matter whether the victim is willing or not, society has determined that some people simply cannot consent to intercourse. This can be because of age, mental ability, intoxication, and so on. Check your local laws for details.

Fatal on April 19, 2007 at 5:59 PM

There are plenty of Mexican groupos who sing ballads of high praise for the cocaine trade, the druglords who move the cocaine, and the torture and murder of anyone who opposes them. Mexico borders America, and that type of violence and the cocaine trade spills over into America from Mexico EVERY DAY. Where’s the shock and awe for that?

Don’t you know there’s a war on?!?

Slublog on April 19, 2007 at 6:01 PM

I suppose I’m thankful he didn’t pull this stunt at Nickelodeon’s Kids’ Choice Awards last month.

Talk about getting slimed.

saint kansas on April 19, 2007 at 3:25 PM

Nah, leave that to real role models like Lindsay Lohan at the Kid’s Choice awards.

http://www.stereogum.com/archives/002457.html

Glynn on April 19, 2007 at 6:15 PM

I’ve been following Akon’s “career” for a couple of years. Besides pushing his polygamy and the Muslim religion in his obscene rap lyrics, he is an ex-con, served time for armed robbery and drug-dealing, and–the most outrageous–was featured a week ago on “American Idol,” where he’s being marketed to kids. My jaw dropped when I saw him on that show. And he’s an anchor baby, too. Read the details of all of this.

Debbie Schlussel on April 19, 2007 at 6:22 PM

I’ve been following Akon’s “career” for a couple of years. Besides pushing his polygamy and the Muslim religion in his obscene rap lyrics, he is an ex-con, served time for armed robbery and drug-dealing, and–the most outrageous–was featured a week ago on “American Idol,” where he’s being marketed to kids. My jaw dropped when I saw him on that show. And he’s an anchor baby, too. Read the details of all of this.

Debbie Schlussel on April 19, 2007 at 6:22 PM

Thank you Debbie. I am woefully out of touch with things like this. I have to do better. At least two of my grandchildren, ages 13 and 14, have asked me to buy them this punk’s music. It ain’t happenin’.

Glynn on April 19, 2007 at 6:29 PM

If this is confirmed, I expect jesses and al to start a huge protest on this post haste.

csdeven on April 19, 2007 at 6:30 PM

There’s no questioning his absolute moral authority, artistically speaking of course.

Speakup on April 19, 2007 at 6:34 PM

I’m not looking for glory here, but why no update with the info I provided here:

RightWinged on April 19, 2007 at 4:47 PM

This guy is a class a scumbag who has spent a lot of time in the joint.

RightWinged on April 19, 2007 at 7:04 PM

Such as? I mean, seriously, give me an example. I know of a couple, but what do you consider “good hiphop” – and you casn’t go back 20 years either, we’re talking right now.

Anyone hiphop “star” who doesn’t swear, demean women, trash-talk cops, promote drug use and thuggery, etc… is ostracized on by the rest of the hip-hop world for being to good, aka, too white. Will Smith comes to mind.

Even the female hip-hop “stars” manage to demean themselves.

reaganaut on April 19, 2007 at 3:50 PM

I agree that HiP hOp is completely broken.

I just think it is a more open expression of the brokenness of society.

The saddest thing is that good krews and groups that are good who do have positive effect on music and society are never known by society and never break through into the level that these degrading musicians and krews have.

Groups I suggest:

Pigeon John One of the funniest guys I have ever personally known. He has a wife, loves her dearly and she is definitely a Proverbs 31 woman and beautiful too.

If you look on mininova you can find his latest album. I recommend his song Money Back Guarantee

LA Symphony A shadow of the crew that they were, but still a great group. If you ever run across their song, “Champion Bird Watcher” grab it. Best song ever from them, from the album, “Call it What You Want

Mars Ill They have two samples on My Space The website isn’t much, but their albums are great, if you can get The Sphere of Hip Hop both Parts 1 and 2 from here Both are outstanding songs, but Part 2 is better.

And finally, Flynn Adam I do know the guys has a BS in Systematic Theology.

So there are good groups out there, but you’ll need to seek them out and you won’t see them in the magazines.

Apologize to Allah for the links. I’m getting no money for them or anything other than trying to get the word out about groups that are a positive force to society and especially to women. Case in point: Loves Not and Alpha Male, both by Mars Ill

The best verse ever from Mars Ill:

It’s all the same, CC you’re A & R ASAP
And tell him MTV really ain’t the place to be
See, I did some R & D when most where high on THC
And caught a vision in the form of Run DMC and BDP
Because KRS was the one before VH could get in line
Behind the music, but today it’s really the music that’s behind
I find T & A on NBC without a question
So I tune into PBS to try to teach my child a lesson
Cats run weapons from Route 66 to the BQE
I push my beliefs over beats in encoded mp3’s
I praise G-O-D for the O2 I get to breathe
And for the way he reads my heart and my mind like ESP
While you communicate collectively, still you’re all alone
Your world minus the Most High is monotone

Tim Burton on April 19, 2007 at 8:24 PM

Hip hop/rap had success in the 90’s because of the classic songs it sampled/ripped off. But they’ve pretty much run out of songs to steal, so they’re left with just the b*tch/ho/gangsta stuff which is just boring and predictable. Here’s a quick comparison of what music used to be, and what it is now. Sad, i feel sorry for kids growing up these days.

forged rite on April 19, 2007 at 10:18 PM

She was 14 years old according to a new report.

Johnny Soong, owner of the Zen nightclub and one of the promoters of last Thursday’s “Akon in Concert” said yesterday that the club has an age limit of 18 years and over.

Soong, who is out of the country, was contacted for comment on the highly publicised controversial dance by Akon and 14-year-old Deena Alleyne, daughter of pastor Dave Alleyne.

“Patrons have to be 18 years to purchase tickets when we sell tickets for our events,” Soong said yesterday.

“We do check persons IDs. Obviously she got through the crack.

Ripclawe on April 20, 2007 at 1:07 AM

I guess we should just completely eliminate our statutory rape laws.

Gregor on April 19, 2007 at 5:55 PM

Oh, you live in Trinidad? What the heck does this have to do with “our statutory rape laws”? It didn’t happen here. That’s part of the point Einstein.

Get a grip… so to speak.

SilverStar830 on April 20, 2007 at 1:12 AM

And people wonder why Joe Francis got away with it for sooo many years

EricPWJohnson on April 20, 2007 at 3:16 AM

Celebrate diversity.

mountainmanbob on April 20, 2007 at 8:10 AM

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