Fox News: Was Cho possessed by the devil?
posted at 9:52 pm on April 18, 2007 by Allahpundit
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When unexplained violence takes center stage, we tend to turn to modern psychology to explain it.
But there is an alternative explanation, one that has been played out in film, stage and writings since the beginning of history.
Was Cho Seung-Hui schizophrenic … psychotic … manic-depressive? Or were the shooting deaths of 32 people, including Cho himself, at Virginia Tech University part of the ongoing struggle between God and Satan … good against evil … lightness and darkness?
Could Cho have been possessed by the Devil? Could that explain the massacre at Virginia Tech?
Dr. Richard Roberts, president of Oral Roberts University, shouts an unequivocal “Yes!”
“Based on what I’ve seen in the news,” Roberts said in an interview, “there’s no doubt that this act was Satanic in origin.”
There follows some quibbling over whether the Dark Lord possessed or merely “oppressed” him, which apparently is a crucial distinction. But then, you know what they say — the devil’s in the details.
Since we’re picking on Fox, here’s Geraldo’s moment of shame from Monday night, pointing out wanusmaximus’s LiveJournal page for all of America to see. He never actually identifies him, even by his alias, so at least it’s a crash landing he can walk away from.
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Uhhh…….Ok?…..
amerpundit on April 18, 2007 at 9:54 PM
I wouldn’t say THEE devil, but one or a few were definitely involved and prodding.
- The Cat
MirCat on April 18, 2007 at 9:54 PM
Geraldo has GOT to GO AWAY!!
And those not spiritually fit should probably not be discussing ’satans’ existence in anyone.
shooter on April 18, 2007 at 10:00 PM
With all these images of this NUT.
Anyone concerned that the CopyCats are stirring.
24-7 of this nuts pic with his death stance could fuse
another NUT.
Im not an alarmist, But gezz, Enough already.
Texyank on April 18, 2007 at 10:00 PM
The devil was in the adults that let this kid stay on that campus after being diagnosed as a “harm to himself.”
robblefarian on April 18, 2007 at 10:01 PM
Geraldo & Shep are disgusting tragedy pimps w/o any sense of responsibility or human decency. They make my stomach turn.
TheBigOldDog on April 18, 2007 at 10:02 PM
Well, Texyank, you know very well that this is all that is going to be in the news until the next big thing.
- The Cat
P.S. Megyn’s available?
P.P.S. Geraldo’s got a Dell dude.
MirCat on April 18, 2007 at 10:02 PM
What a moron
brak on April 18, 2007 at 10:04 PM
I’m sorry
MirCat on April 18, 2007 at 10:05 PM
Well she was Megan Kendell, now she’s Megan Kelly so she either recently got married or divorced.
TheBigOldDog on April 18, 2007 at 10:05 PM
God was gonna kill him if he didn’t say that.
infidel4life on April 18, 2007 at 10:09 PM
Enough? Why, it just happened. People would like to know more details, and if the Anna Nicole Smith and Imus stories got massive brain torching coverage then I think this one deserves at least as much.
As a side note, anyone wondering if Imus wishes this had happened a week earlier or so? He’d probably still have a job.
Darth Executor on April 18, 2007 at 10:10 PM
Well a few sites I just checked out are saying it’s the big D. Now that’s news!
Why wasn’t the New York Times and CBS informed? Cover up! Scandal! This calls for Rosie Power! (or at least a ro-ku)
- The Cat
MirCat on April 18, 2007 at 10:10 PM
What an ambulance chaser.
Geraldo: this is a mental health issue, it has nothing to do with murder or evil.
I don’t think Geraldo qualifies for duty on Fox news.
Speakup on April 18, 2007 at 10:10 PM
Yeah, I saw the G-man doing this live…all I could think was “what a maroon”…and tell me again why FOX picked him up in the first place?
JetBoy on April 18, 2007 at 10:11 PM
Yep, Used to like shep. He’s become an expert on all
or I just noticed.
I’m afraid your right.
Texyank on April 18, 2007 at 10:11 PM
I wrote Fox a lengthy email, telling them to pull Geraldo and Shep off the story for all of their idiocy down there, ESPECIALLY the video you included here. I’m not even going to watch the clip again because he pisses me off so much, but I’ll give a couple highlights that may be in that or were at other times in the same night… He talked about the “hateful” comments on the site, talks about the kids posing with his “arsenal”, about the “wave of electricity” that went through the room with him and his research team when they heard about the site. Keep in mind this raving lunatic (Geraldo, not Cho) was going off like this HOURS AFTER AP AND OTHERS DEBUNKED THE WANUSMAXIMUS ANGLE!!! This was when the media was still operating under the BASELESS “ex-girlfriend” angle, and Geraldo also read an Eminem quote from wanus’ site about killing girlfriends.
Geraldo, I doubt you are, but I hope you are reading this: You’re a piece of garbage. So are you Shep. Quick, go find some black children to hold up to the camera while you cry and beg “let my people go!”
RightWinged on April 18, 2007 at 10:13 PM
You know, we in Tulsa respect Richard’s authoritah! on all things spiritual.
Yes, this is sarcasm.
Not saying people can’t be possessed, but that hardly seems the case here.
thedecider on April 18, 2007 at 10:13 PM
With all these images of this NUT.
Anyone concerned that the CopyCats are stirring.
24-7 of this nuts pic with his death stance could fuse
another NUT.
Im not an alarmist, But gezz, Enough already.
Texyank on April 18, 2007 at 10:00 PM
Imus is soo old news.
Texyank on April 18, 2007 at 10:14 PM
Thank You
Texyank on April 18, 2007 at 10:15 PM
Maybe. But Geraldo sure is.
BacaDog on April 18, 2007 at 10:18 PM
That Poet who gave the speech at the convocation and who threw Cho out of her class was on Larry King tonight. She said she didn’t think he was crazy. She thought he was pure evil.
TheBigOldDog on April 18, 2007 at 10:19 PM
but not really crazy/evil enough to do anything about I guess…
Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on April 18, 2007 at 10:23 PM
Actually, that snafu is attributed to his father.
thedecider on April 18, 2007 at 10:25 PM
I think this has everything to do with murder and evil. If any terrible action committed by a person can be dismissed as a result of mental illness, does anything count as evil? Your comment smacks of the view common among liberals that people are slaves to their environment and don’t have any free will.
At what point will we stop blaming atrocities on mental illness and start saying that there are some just plain evil people out there?
PaisleyCow on April 18, 2007 at 10:30 PM
If i remember right, Geraldo actually approached Fox, not the other way around. He was on CNBC when 9/11 happened and apparently they (cnbc) wouldn’t send him to Afghanistan to report. He asked Fox if they would send him and they obviously said yes. Although i think he didn’t leave CNBC until after the war in Iraq started.
forged rite on April 18, 2007 at 10:32 PM
Yup, he’s a chip off the old block.
infidel4life on April 18, 2007 at 10:34 PM
There comes a point when one starts to feel sorry for certain Evangelists, this passed that point. Twice.
Nonfactor on April 18, 2007 at 10:47 PM
Heraldo has NEVER had any shame or common sense so why should be surprised at anything this grandstanding media whore is saying.Color me not surprised.Also,why is all the media dancing around Cho’s religion of choice? Something for everyone excuses abound.Could it be that Cho is a recent convert to the religion of pieces?Just asking is all.
spazzmomma on April 18, 2007 at 10:51 PM
Just realized that i never actually answered your question. i think Fox hired Geraldo because, from what i’ve seen, he’s been a pretty solid supporter of the GWOT and critical of democrats, at least on that issue.
forged rite on April 18, 2007 at 10:52 PM
When I first saw the headline on the front page and saw the accompanying photo, I was going to type:
“Cho may have been possessed by the Devil, but the more important question is whether Geraldo is posessed by the Devil”.
But BacaDog beat me to it, so I won’t type it. ;-)
LegendHasIt on April 18, 2007 at 10:53 PM
boy, I remember watching this live monday night. I wanted to reach into the TV and slap him….
dead-duck on April 18, 2007 at 10:53 PM
You either like Geraldo or you don’t. I suspect as many people watch him because they don’t as because they do .. but people do watch him & that is why he is on Fox.
Shep is another matter .. tell me again why we don’t like Shep?? .. he is neither involved nor mentioned in this thread until he becomes a piece of garbage far down in the comments.
As for the possession issue, someone capable of the senseless murders of 32 people must be possessed by SOMETHING.
DJ Dubya on April 18, 2007 at 11:02 PM
So, I take it AP and some of you others don’t think Cho was evil. Maybe it was just his acts that were evil?
CliffHanger on April 18, 2007 at 11:04 PM
Yeah, but Geraldo (if I remember correctly) was no big draw for NBC, and seemed a has-been when FOX hired him. He just looks ridiculous. I hope Ailes knows what he’s doing…
JetBoy on April 18, 2007 at 11:10 PM
Evil, sick, or both? I say both.
Which caused what? I say Evil caused the sickness.
CliffHanger on April 18, 2007 at 11:11 PM
Geraldo’s neither evil or sick… just stupid.
CliffHanger on April 18, 2007 at 11:12 PM
At least he wasn’t hopped up on amphetamines like he was at the Superdome after the post-Katrina flooding.
DANEgerus on April 18, 2007 at 11:18 PM
Well, Cho couldn’t be more happier right now where ever he is. The MSM are giving him considerably more time than Andy Worhol’s 15 minutes of fame.
In fact, he’s getting the 24/7/30 treatment, with his picture running on constant playback every minute, while reporters and reporterettes voice-overs are wondering “what’s it all about, Alfie?”.
Didn’t we just go through this with Anna Nicole Smith?
But, who am I to question the motives of the MSM?
pocomoco on April 18, 2007 at 11:24 PM
That puzzled me, too. I like Shep.
mikeyboss on April 18, 2007 at 11:33 PM
Too much crank:
Videos of Whoraldo Rivera at the Superdome
DANEgerus on April 18, 2007 at 11:41 PM
Shep tries to be as sensational as Geraldo and has been disgusting at VT. And didn’t you get my reference about him and the G man both in New Orleans? That was unprofessional and ridiculous.
But he’s also revealed his liberalism more and more lately. The only specific examples I remember are of him starting a global warming story saying that the “science is in/the debate is over” in his own words, not quoting someone. He also called that Harold Ford Jr. Playboy ad “racist”, even though no out outside of the far left could come to that conclusion. Those are just off the top, but I’ve heard his liberal editorializing and tone when reporting on Iraq time and again, etc. etc.
But he was down there hyping the wanus crap the first night in VT too. He has been Geraldo Jr. down there.
RightWinged on April 18, 2007 at 11:43 PM
I got a baby..theres a baby…do you see the baby?!?!..think of the children!!!…what an asshat that guy is.
EnochCain on April 18, 2007 at 11:48 PM
I think Geraldo is his mentor. You can tell he really looks up to him. It’s just a matter of time before we see Shep revealing “the real killer” on O.J.’s behalf.
thedecider on April 18, 2007 at 11:49 PM
I think you misunderstood my post and I should have be a little more specific.
Speakup on April 18, 2007 at 11:55 PM
All of this outlandish coverage guarantees copycats; Thank you, MSM. Coverage should be 90% victims (and the heroic professor), not the nutcase. Heck, my company is in the middle of a major layoff; just maybe some there has bought into the ‘Everyone else is at fault; I’ll kill them all!’ just for the bizarre glory the MSM is affording them.
I’m working on getting my Concealed Carry (have been for a few weeks). What about the rest of you?
Mike O on April 18, 2007 at 11:57 PM
Good Luck. The more I write FOX about Geraldo, the more he is on. As far as Shep goes, I started a Shep Boycott during the Lebanon thing last summer. You can tell how well that worked.
Connie on April 18, 2007 at 11:59 PM
I’m blind in one eye. ;)
Connie on April 19, 2007 at 12:01 AM
It’s Megyn. You know how chicks are about their names.
Geraldo gets into this reportage frenzy when he is on location on big stories. I admit it is fun to watch in the same way that I watch Maury or Dr Phil…speaking of which, Phil had on a grandfather/molester who claimed it was the devil that caused him to go after his granddaughter so his son and daughter-in-law should just get over it.
Who was the comedian who said Jesus must be getting sick of all these people who find him only after they royally screw up their lives?
Bill C on April 19, 2007 at 12:02 AM
BREAKING A COPYCAT HAS STRUCK:
In a copycat event that will go down in history as one of the most disgusting in American history, Shepard Smith has taken on the douchebagedness of Geraldo Rivera.
RightWinged on April 19, 2007 at 12:09 AM
Geraldo comes close to doing this to me.
Connie on April 19, 2007 at 12:14 AM
Cho was both sick and evil. His whole “its your fault I’m doing this” schtick is identical to what every spouse abuser and Australian-Muslim-rapist spouts. They know damn well there is no excuse for what they are doing, so they try to justify it by blaming the victim.
Look in his eyes in all the pictures. Remember that this was premeditated, methodically, over a period of several days if not months. He may have been psychotic, but he was clearly in control of his actions and was well aware of what he was doing. He chose to hate, and he chose to murder.
I feel for the survivors and the families of those who did not. I also feel for Cho’s family. How does one live down a shame like this?
On another note, there seems to be no indication that I am aware of that Islam or any religion had anything to do with is motivation.
Lancer on April 19, 2007 at 12:16 AM
LOL!
Glynn on April 19, 2007 at 12:22 AM
“Michael, were you on campus when this went down?”
This Jerry Rivers is a major league douchebag. And Roberts…well, he’s a minor league douchebag.
Jaibones on April 19, 2007 at 12:36 AM
If I saw Gerardo in my front door, I would respectfully ask for Laurie Dew……
PinkyBigglesworth on April 19, 2007 at 12:42 AM
Well you really only use one to aim :P Besides, depth really doesn’t matter . . well unless you’re aimming like a half a mile away.
- The Cat
MirCat on April 19, 2007 at 12:56 AM
Anyone who does not think Satan/(the devil) plays a hand in activity like this really fails to understand the true big picture.
IndependentConserv on April 19, 2007 at 1:06 AM
A friend told me I really didn’t need to be able to see clearly anyway in a self-defense situation. He said “Aim for whatever.”
Connie on April 19, 2007 at 1:07 AM
A small tidbit on Mr. Rivera and his ilk. I was a Rescue Team Manager for a Federal Urban Search & Rescue Team at the Murrah Federal Building bombing in Oklahoma City. Our team was the last in so we were in body recovery at that point. The word we got on our “site security” briefing from the FBI was that Mr. Rivera had tried to infiltrate the crime scene by donning firefighter’s garb and thereby gaining exclusive access to the immediate recovery site. He was caught and escorted from the area.One of his peers, Ms. Connie Chung had been escorted to the state line at the direction of the Governor after being caught in a nurse’s outfit trying to get first person interviews with some of the survivors while they were still in the local emergency room. Whether all this is verifiable is hard to say at this point in time, but I certainly was left with an indelible impression of those two stalwarts of the media and the depths they would stoop to get their faces front and center on TV. With the VT tragedy, I see Mr. Rivera is still using any such circumstance to further his career.
Chief1942 on April 19, 2007 at 1:11 AM
Off-topic: I have a cousin named Glynn. It’s rarely spelled that way anymore. Usually Glenn or Glen. Interesting….
Connie on April 19, 2007 at 1:12 AM
Yeah, shooting a guy in the whatever will certainly drop him.
- The Cat
P.S.
Naw, haven’t you heard? George Bush made him do it.
P.P.S. But seriously, you’re right on the money
MirCat on April 19, 2007 at 1:13 AM
Wasn’t Geraldo the guy who wasn’t where he said he was in Afghanistan? He’s really a into a useful idiot. He needs to get fired.
PRCalDude on April 19, 2007 at 1:41 AM
Absolutely I agree this man was possessed by an evil spirit. Saying that doesn’t justify his actions or neutralize his responsibility, but there’s way more at work here than just mere “mental illness”.
Jared White on April 19, 2007 at 1:52 AM
Hmph…you can’t shame the shameless, Allah.
Bad Candy on April 19, 2007 at 2:01 AM
True. The shameless don’t recognize their own shame.
Connie on April 19, 2007 at 2:33 AM
I didn’t see Geraldo at all today. He was ripping into Cho the past couple days…I was actually curious to see what he had to say after the videos. Anyone see him?
Patriot33 on April 19, 2007 at 2:45 AM
– C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
– Geraldine
A human is never without choice. God allows free will, which in turn allows the potential for evil. But it absolutely leaves noone with an excuse. If you choose evil, no matter how much you are influenced by your environment, drugs, peers, enemies, Satan, or your little sister, it was still your choice. With understandable exceptions, most people with unstable mental conditions got that way through bad choices.
Freelancer on April 19, 2007 at 3:13 AM
I’m sorry, I’ll take Geraldo over Couric any day.
If she came to my house I’d probably end up with a new liberal-skin hat and pair of gloves.
unamused on April 19, 2007 at 3:32 AM
Uhh……. I blame Bush?…. Halliburton?
RightWinged on April 19, 2007 at 4:21 AM
I’d have to disagree with this statement in the Fox story:
Have they not read the first chapters of Genesis?
Centurion68 on April 19, 2007 at 6:54 AM
Yikes. I don’t care what Dan Rather says, FOX doesn’t cater to conservatives. FOX caters to a charicature of conservatives.
People’s belief in the Devil notwithstanding, isn’t it kind of reaching to suggest that the guy was possessed by the Prince of Darkness? That is of course a personal observation someone has to make for themselves, but it just seems to me that, historically, when Beelzebub takes the wheel he seems to be a little more subtle.
Lehosh on April 19, 2007 at 8:06 AM
With all these images of this NUT.
NBC and the rest of the MSM just increased the liklihood of copy-cat murders by at least an order of magnitude. Copy-cats will see the Cho videos and say to themselves, “If I kill, the MSM will give me EXACTLY what I want. Fame, notoriety, attention. My words will be broadcast over and over endlessly to the entire world.”
To me, it shows that it is the MSM (and not Cho or Geraldo) that is clearly “possessed by the devil.” The people in the MSM media only care that they “get the story OUT THERE” and that all the swirling controversy brings in advertising revenue. They could not care less that the wackos out there are encouraged to kill others as the result of their actions.
CyberCipher on April 19, 2007 at 8:53 AM
You know, the DAY FOX NEWS hired Hurlaldo was the day I tuned out. Except for Michelle…and since I can get her Fox clips HERE, I KILLED my cable altogether.
seejanemom on April 19, 2007 at 9:21 AM
As a christian, I do believe that he was possessed. However the devil is an enticer, he does not control an individuals movements. Think of the devil as the used car salesman that sells you a lemon. The person still has the choice to buying the lemon or not. I think Psy-cho was influenced by evil spirits but he did these actions.
By the way, if my comments have offended any used car salesman, I appologize
JVelez on April 19, 2007 at 9:34 AM
People can joke about the Satan aspect, but in Christian belief it is no joke:
Peter 5:8 (New International Version)
8)Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour
Ephesians 6:11 (New International Version)
11) Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.
Chronicles 21
1) Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel
Acts 10:38 (New International Version)
38) how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.
2 Corinthians 2:11 (New International Version)
11)in order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes.
Rightwingsparkle on April 19, 2007 at 9:39 AM
You are either a child of God or a child of Satan. You choose. Psy-Cho is burning in hell now.
Geraldo is just an obnoxious attention whore who NEVER shuts up! He could monologue for a week about a carrot.
PoliticallyIncorrectSandy on April 19, 2007 at 10:07 AM
After Geraldo got his nose broke with a chair, he just hasn’t been right.
jeffNWV on April 19, 2007 at 10:15 AM
Did that rumor with the facebook guy ever pan out??
JVelez on April 19, 2007 at 10:19 AM
Exactly. Evil lurks in every corner of this world. Evil searches for willing vessels in order to sow sin and separate us from our God.
CliffHanger on April 19, 2007 at 10:28 AM
“There follows some quibbling over whether the Dark Lord possessed or merely “oppressed” him,”
What, they’re blaming this on Voldemoort?
JohnW on April 19, 2007 at 10:32 AM
I believe in the devil most assuredly. However, I believe that at some point you have to reach out and allow evil to be your guiding darkness. You can say no and not allow evil to be your master. Cho didn’t.
Ellen on April 19, 2007 at 10:43 AM
I’m with you, Cliff.
Buck Turgidson on April 19, 2007 at 10:57 AM
I don’t think he qualifies for air consumption.
silenced majority on April 19, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Good Lord that was painful to watch. Those two “reporting” seriously they have absolutely nothing to “report.”
I remember why I don’t watch TV….
Claire on April 19, 2007 at 7:54 PM
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