Video: MSNBC already cashing in on massacre, pimps new gun control special
posted at 6:39 pm on April 16, 2007 by Ian
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That didn’t take long. MSNBC is already promoing a special on gun control set to air on the channel’s resident “conservative” show, “Scarborough Country.” Who says the media has an agenda?
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wasnt the school a gun free zone?
lorien1973 on April 16, 2007 at 6:40 PM
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang….
Kokonut on April 16, 2007 at 6:40 PM
How do you enforce a “gun free zone”? Are there detectors set up similar to the ones at the airports?
Kokonut on April 16, 2007 at 6:42 PM
it was a gun free zone, they had legislation last year to allow guns but defeated it. the University was against it. before that, a student with a concealed weapon permit got arrested on campus for lawfully have a gun which caused an uproar by these idiots.
jp on April 16, 2007 at 6:43 PM
It is a gun free zone… well except for the criminals.
AndrewsDad on April 16, 2007 at 6:51 PM
Typical
kneejerk reaction. Put a different spin on it. What if one of the students had a means to fight back?SPIFF1669 on April 16, 2007 at 6:52 PM
Wow, if only the killer would have known it was a gun free zone he would not have done what he did.
EnochCain on April 16, 2007 at 6:54 PM
Well the shooter is in real trouble now. Would not be so bad for 33 murders, but, in a gun free zone. How dare he.
Wade on April 16, 2007 at 6:54 PM
So not only was it a gun free zone, it was highly publicized as such. The shooter likely knew about this and who knows to what extent his knowing that he wouldn’t face any unexpected opposition on his killing spree influenced his decision.
Perchant on April 16, 2007 at 6:55 PM
What garbage . . . gun control had nothing to do with this travesty. In fact, if the school had allowed legally concealed weapons on campus then, perhaps, someone could have stopped this murderer before he killed so many people. Good old blood sucking MSNBC is at it again.
rplat on April 16, 2007 at 6:56 PM
You know I hear fully automatic weapons are illegal too but somehow those pesky criminals keep getting their hands on them…do they not know about the LAW?!?
EnochCain on April 16, 2007 at 6:57 PM
Tim Burton on April 16, 2007 at 6:59 PM
If the guy was that determined to wreak carnage and havoc, he would have used other methods if guns were not in hir repertoire. idjits.
bbz123 on April 16, 2007 at 6:59 PM
Methinks Scarboro may be setting this up for the opposite. But this is nothing more than they always do. And when I say they, I mean ever new channel about everthing.
- The Cat
MirCat on April 16, 2007 at 7:02 PM
Will Olberdunce offer a special commentary blaming Bush?
JammieWearingFool on April 16, 2007 at 7:03 PM
Between federal gun laws and federal abstinence programs, today was not a good day for the regulate everything crowd. Won’t stop anyone, though. Not surprising MSNBC’s the first to cash in, either. They do have some air time to fill, among other things.
BillLalor on April 16, 2007 at 7:05 PM
“Gun-free” meaning Campus Police were not allowed to be armed, right?
ej_pez on April 16, 2007 at 7:08 PM
Yeah, because mass murdering lunatics always abide by gun control laws.
Viper1 on April 16, 2007 at 7:11 PM
After this incident, they’ll probably make those “no guns allowed on premises” much bigger.
Gun groups should have those signs made up in Arabic and post them under the English signs when ever they find them.
One look at that and it suddenly dawns on people how absurd the concept is.
Perchant on April 16, 2007 at 7:11 PM
Yeah buddy, those people armed with wet noodles can be a real killer…
Get a clue, you are either a gun owner or a victim, make a choice.
serenity on April 16, 2007 at 7:12 PM
Their critical thinking isn’t very critical. Social engineers are like regular engineers. They never think about what happens if the system breaks down because their system can never break down.
- The Cat
MirCat on April 16, 2007 at 7:15 PM
No amount of laws will prevent someone intent on mass murder from committing mass murder.
It’s an absolutely insane concept. You end up with a law against breaking the law against breaking the law against murder, and you’ve done f***-all about the problem.
Politics isn’t the problem here, and isn’t going to solve it. Everyone has all these esoteric arguments that run in circles so they can justify their pet political fantasy and it’s all bullshit.
The only thing that’s true here is that a LOT of people are dead on the floor here and the ONLY possibly thing that could have mitigated the disaster was SPECIFICALLY prevented by POLITICS.
Can we please have at least ONE state where SANE people can go to live?
Merovign on April 16, 2007 at 7:15 PM
So I wonder how many existing gun laws the shooter broke? If somebody wants to go on a rampage like this a few gun laws ain’t gonna stop them. It will make sure that they have plenty of victims. For a case study just look to DC.
LakeRuins on April 16, 2007 at 7:16 PM
I blame George Bush for inventing guns.
Seixon on April 16, 2007 at 7:16 PM
You want a better example. Who do the jihadists attack? The Americans with the big guns or the innocent civilians in a shopping market?
LakeRuins on April 16, 2007 at 7:17 PM
Here we go again.
I wonder what those sage and malevolent beacons of wisdom with the initials of KO, RO will utter?
kevcad on April 16, 2007 at 7:18 PM
Gross. Their bodies aren’t even cold…
Theworldisnotenough on April 16, 2007 at 7:36 PM
And here I always thought it was Al Gore.
- The Cat
MirCat on April 16, 2007 at 7:37 PM
This is, really, all about Guns…
Specifically, the inability of the students to defend themselves without their own guns to shoot back.
But, what if…
What if we eliminated all guns from society, and this guy instead showed up with a bow and arrows? or a wrist-rocket with steel pellets? or a sword? or a club?
Lawrence on April 16, 2007 at 7:37 PM
OT,
What is up with the ad in the sidebar… Climate Change/National Security?? I know you gotta pay the bills, but come on now.
NeverSubmit on April 16, 2007 at 7:42 PM
Lawrence:
Or a chain, a lock, a lighter and a can of gas?
As much as I hate to link to WikiWacky:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_Social_Club
Shall we ban fire or gasoline?
Merovign on April 16, 2007 at 7:43 PM
My wife saw the news, prayed for the victims, then she and the kids went to our local gun range.
k2comp on April 16, 2007 at 7:43 PM
Every parent should withdraw their student immediately, declaring in writing that the withdrawal of said student — and accompanying tuition and other fees — is in direct response to the university president’s declaration in January of 2006 that the campus was “safe from guns” because the university took it upon itself to thwart both the Constitution of the United States AND the laws of the state of Virginia.
Did you know that there was recently a bill in the Virginia State Legislature that would have prevented this atrocity?
House Bill 1572 didn’t get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety.
The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League.
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. “I’m sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly’s actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus.”
Feelings. Feel safe, not BE safe.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818224/posts
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The Machine on April 16, 2007 at 7:48 PM
It’s a legitimate question; especially if, as some commenters have said, the uni is a ‘gun-free zone’
I’d be interested to see how such a debate panned out..
Reaps on April 16, 2007 at 7:49 PM
Laws don’t matter any more, look at the illegal aliens…20 million of them with more rights than you or I have.
The left/libs/dems took GOD out of the classroom, and now they wonder why all the bad guys. Hmmm.
What’s next? Take away our last line of defense? Our guns from our homes? or from our hands?
I bought ammo, two kinds, and I prayed.
Both, the libs don’t want me to do.
shooter on April 16, 2007 at 7:51 PM
What a load of C-R-A-P. Why do the people who tend to follow laws always wind up the victims of those who don’t?
We have laws against murder, especially on this scale. Those intent on such evil laugh at such laws. Perhaps they even welcome them.
I think this may be what those smart guys meant when they added that phrase, “being necessary to the security of a free state,” to Amendment 2.
SailorDave on April 16, 2007 at 8:05 PM
Ban all guns tomorrow. Post 10 security guards in every campus building at every college. This would not prevent the same massacre from happening again.
Lunatics don’t turn in their guns. Lunatics are not intimidated by law enforcement.
Lunatiacs wait, plan and find a way.
We live in a free society, in all it’s glory and in all it’s ugliness.
fogw on April 16, 2007 at 8:17 PM
Who is responsible??? Well, we can at least thank the liberals and their democrat party minions for the serious carnage anyway…
Let’s see, some crazy maniac and wants to kill a lot of people b4 he checks out, hmmm, where would he go to do it???
Let’s ask a rock or someone as dumb as one…”Oh, I know, a GUN FREE ZONE, where the chances are 99.99% that no one can shoot back”!
And there you go,Thank the liberal democrat fools.
No, it isn’t directly their fault that a crazy did something evil, but it IS their fault that he was able to shoot so many people while no one had the ability to fight back.
People with liberal minds are just fools pretending to be smart, and democrat politicians that tickle their ears and make laws for them in exchange for votes are an even worse form of human debris. The Bible clearly defines liberal Godless minds where it says, “…thinking themselves wise, they became fools“.
NRA4Freedom on April 16, 2007 at 8:22 PM
Here we go…
More than one year before today’s unprecedented shooting rampage at Virginia Tech, the state’s General Assembly quashed a bill that would have given qualified college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus.
At the time, Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker said he was happy to hear of the bill’s defeat, according to the Roanoke Times..
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55226
NRA4Freedom on April 16, 2007 at 8:26 PM
So … exactly how does one go about un-inventing a 13th century technology, such as guns?
Criminals/Psychos will still get them … they will get smuggled in, like in the UK or Australia today.
Kristopher on April 16, 2007 at 8:28 PM
HuffPost moron comes unglued.
JammieWearingFool on April 16, 2007 at 8:32 PM
OT
What, no 24 thread?
Coronagold on April 16, 2007 at 9:08 PM
So they’re already certain the shooter’s name is not ‘Mo?’
Claire on April 16, 2007 at 9:08 PM
You said “pimps”! Ummmmmmmm!
Jim Treacher on April 16, 2007 at 9:09 PM
Can we compare violence and killing at “gun free” zones to “guns are permited” zones?
PinkyBigglesworth on April 16, 2007 at 9:09 PM
Hmmm… mass shootings at schools vs. mass shootings at gun ranges? Talk about your forgone conclusions!
Merovign on April 16, 2007 at 9:13 PM
Gun Control works….. for killers. It ensured that the victims were unable to defend themselves yet did nNOTHING to prevent the killer from carrying out his massacre.
Why the Left champions this insane cause is beyond me.
Yakko77 on April 16, 2007 at 9:19 PM
Were the guns used properly registered? All gun control does is limit and endanger legitimate gun owners like myself. gun control means nothing to criminals or psychotic gunmen
anyway, could we expect anything less from MSNBC? Someone, in the next few days will even try to find a way to blame Bush for this.
Opinionnation on April 16, 2007 at 9:21 PM
This incident should be compared to the U. Texas campus tower incident in 1966. That brain cancer-deranged shooter was shot by a combination of police and fellow students who pulled rifles out of their car trunks and began firing back in self-defense. If there were no armed students on the UTx campus in 1966, the death toll would have been higher as the shooter in the tower had a commanding vantage point of the entire campus.
chsw
chsw on April 16, 2007 at 9:45 PM
You’ll notice that in this news item from Reuters, only one side of the gun control debate is cited. You can guess which side.
tommy1 on April 16, 2007 at 9:48 PM
WTF!?!?!? Is NBC freaking perverted? I am watching the special on the Va Tech shootings…they showed Brian Williams talking to a couple of guys, then put the frame on th guy he was talking to….and there were crosshairs in the video!
I hope this was just a blunder!
Is someone recording this? Please post it!
lsutiger on April 16, 2007 at 10:15 PM
You know what scares me ? The liberals will be pushing to take guns out of the hands of Americans
While over in the Middle East some Jihadist nutcase is taking notes on how to do what this gunman did in bigger and better terrorist terms.
Disarm us while the learn to kill more effectively.
William Amos on April 16, 2007 at 10:24 PM
I hope that you all are taking the time to post your comments on all the MSM online sites that permit comments. They are great and to the point. We have to stop this anti-gun campaign before it gets more momentum from this terrible massacre.
I hope that if one of the students killed had been forced to turn in his/her gun to the campus authorities, that his/her family will sue the school for leaving the student undefended.
Merovign — I’m with you — could we just be left with one sane state to live in? Probably not.
Margaret McC on April 16, 2007 at 10:28 PM
Yeah, we need tougher gun control laws! We need to take away guns from law abiding citizens who would only use them to defend themselves, leaving guns only in the hands of criminals, who aren’t going to obey gun laws in the first place! Don’t you neo-cons understand the logic!?
RightWinged on April 16, 2007 at 10:29 PM
I remember when NATO was dropping bombs on Serbia, and MSNBC dropped all coverage in order to promote the message that people didn’t kill people, guns did. This type of insane thinking led to tears over the human waste that murdered all the young people at Columbine. They were just part of the evil that guns create by just being there.
Then Rosie went nuts on Tom Sellek about how the guns were to blame for school shootings.
History will repeat itself.
Hening on April 16, 2007 at 10:45 PM
my head’s going to explode.
sarahk on April 16, 2007 at 11:03 PM
3 things went though the minds of most liberals today involving the shootings…
1-Don’t let it be a Muslim shooter.
2-How can we use this to push more gun control?
3-Find a way to blame/bash Bush for this.
It’s going to be a long week..as I said on another post..we’ll get a lecture from Rosie and it’ll go down hill from there.
mlong on April 16, 2007 at 11:09 PM
“Gun-free zone” my arse. It’s a victim disarmament zone.
Eliminate the victim disarmament zones and watch the body counts plummet.
RH
RobertHuntingdon on April 17, 2007 at 12:49 AM
Hey, MSPMS, using the massacre as proof we need gun control makes about as much sense as using it to show we need to stop giving student visas.
petefrt on April 17, 2007 at 12:50 AM
I would like to think that this is a open eyes cynical attempt to capitalize on this sad tragedy but, I know this just a business as usual, everyday editorial decision. I don’t think MSNBC thought twice about airing this trash and the reporter could not wait to get this “HOT” story aired. Clearly nobody at this “BIG NEWS” corporation had the victims and their families in mind when they conceived, produced and aired this obvious and sickening attempt to use a mad man’s insane rage to their short term advantage. Can they not for a moment, abandon their political obsessions to bow their heads and acknowledge the shame WE ALL FEEL for mankind, that so many bright flaming stars of promise, were smothered by one dark selfish heart.
ronsfi on April 17, 2007 at 2:00 AM
Margaret - thanks, you make a great point.
I spent literally years arguing this issue online. I’m not sure I made any progress.
You can tell a telephone pole, but you can’t change its mind.
I remember many times when I got into a protracted discussion with an apparently moderate opponent, and it turned into a huge circle of them making false claims and me debunking - always eventually returning to the same claims over and over again.
You can’t have a discussion with someone like that, or if you can I don’t know how.
Yeah, we need to spread the word, but I look for people who say they “don’t know” about it and try to educate them.
Merovign on April 17, 2007 at 2:08 AM
How many people are killed in non-alcohol related car accidents each year? Far more than are killed with legally owned firearms I’m sure. Using the logic of the anti-gun lobby we should be pressuring State Legislatures to make it increasingly difficult to get a driver’s license or purchase a car.
I’ve heard, read, watched the rumor that some of the victims were lined up and then shot at close range. This causes me some heartburn if it were proved to be true. If I’m down the line and watch the “bang-plop” routine work it’s way down toward me I think I might just have to make a fight out of it.
Pilgrim on April 17, 2007 at 7:35 AM
We should start proposing facetious laws, just to make points. We should propose that cars be outlawed near bars. Any car besides a cab, should be outlawed if within 100 feet of any establishment that serves alcohol. We should propose a law the mandates people wipe their butts and wash their hands. You could argue that ecoli is caused by fecal matter and is passed by people not washing their hands. Ecoli could kill your kids so we need to pass a law that forces people to wipe their butt each time they go and wash their hands every… half hour? Then we need to ensure that every public place has a sink convenient to wherever people go so they can abide by the law. That’s just 2. Not wiping your butt or washing your hands kills people. Cars situated near bars are too enticing and convenient to drunk drivers and therefore kills people.
foxforce91 on April 17, 2007 at 11:35 AM
Indeed. Faced with no chance if I hold still, or maybe a chance if I fight, that isn’t a coin-toss. That said, we can’t be certain of the exact chronology of events in the classrooms. But the authorities have described it about as you did. Going down without a fight just shouldn’t be anybody’s option.
Freelancer on April 17, 2007 at 7:32 PM