Professor Blather, rightwingsparkle, Bill Amos, Bad Candy, Amerpundit, thirteen28, MCPO Airdale, Rob Taylor and others were all having a bang-up good time exposing you as a real dull knife after your rather pathetic attempt to invoke moral equivalency, or as the good Prof pointed out that you were relying “on the perpetual liberal excuse – “look, you did it, too!”.”

To be specific, when it is pointed out that Robert Byrd led the effort via a filibuster to kill the Civil Rights Act in 1964, you invoked Strom Thurmond, then a 1948 Democrat-Dixiecrat, who only somewhat later became a Republican, to deflect criticism of Byrd, a currently sitting Democratic Senator. You wrote, and I quote: “Ok, I see your Byrd and raise you one Strom Thurmond…”

In your zeal to defend Byrd (and to revise your party’s history), you completely ignored RWS’s citation that “[i]n the 26 major civil rights votes after 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 percent of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 percent of the votes.”

He was making the point that the party of civil rights (since BEFORE the Civil War, in fact) was the REPUBLICANS, not the Democrats. An inconvenient truth, I know. But fact, nontheless.

What I did was point out that in 1964, when the Civil Rights Act was before the Senate, DEMOCRATIC RESISTANCE was so strong, that Mike Mansfield, a true Senate Legend, was forced to call on a conservative Republican Senator, Everett Dirksen, to SAVE CIVIL RIGHTS because his own party was going to kill it. Again.

All the “stars” of the 1964 Democratic Party, southern Democrats, were ready, willing, and able to — once again, for the 27th time in a row — kill civil rights legislation.

And in true non-partisanship, and for the good of the nation, Dirksen saved the Civil Rights Bill from death by Democratic filibuster. Then, as now, “for the good of the nation” took a back seat for “what’s good for the Democratic Party.” Then, as exactly 100 years earlier, the majority of Democrats were openly siding with the racists.

That’s the part you left out. Since you asked so nicely.

Now, I’ll run along now, and sweep up some “crumbs” from people with “real” jobs, who aren’t smart enough to design, build, or operate networks of servers without my high-priced, highly-skilled assistance. In other words, people like you.

Georgej didn’t think you were joking this time. So he decided help you. You’re welcome.

Thus endeth the Special History Lesson for Honora.

georgej on April 14, 2007 at 1:46 AM

As usual, bumbliing along, pasting links….pant, pant, pant.

Hey consultant boy: what did I write that was not true? Dirksen was key in passing this legislation. As were Humphrey and Mansfield–do you read what you post???
Who doesn’t know this?

My earlier point was that the big divide on Civil Rights was South versus North, with the North taking the side of the angels, both Dems and Reps. Of course, that has all changed since the race card was played by Nixon.

Run along now and see if you can get some crumbs from the table of people with real jobs, and google that race card thing. Never too old to learn. LOL

georgej on April 14, 2007 at 2:15 AM

georgj seems to be ignorant of a joke as well as my posting record here.
Joke, as in NOT SERIOUS.
Thanks for curing my ignorance.

He seems confused; another of George Santayana’s condemned pilgrims.

He asks me if I was referring to:
A. The Nazis
B. Stalin
C. Bill Clinton

So, let me help him….

The Nazis were clearly second rate in raw totals. Yes, they tried hard, but the true masters of the Death Camps were of a different ideology.

As far as Clinton is concerned, Clenis didn’t quite have the balls to go after “the vast right wing conspiracy” the way Mrs. Clenis wanted him to. Something about those “angry white men” (that’s gungrabber luzer speak for “GUN OWNERS and THE NRA”) who threw the Democrats out of power in 1994, and who certainly did have have something to do with it. It is awfully hard for even a whore mongering, serial sexual predator and rapist, like the cigar-using Clenis to send 80 million armed citizens to the Gulag. Waco didn’t really work out all that well for him and Jackboot Janet Reno, you know. They only “netted” just shy of a hundred.

You’re almost right by guessing Stalin. Though, you left out Lenin, Mao, Kruschev, Pol Pot, “Dear Leader” Kim, Fidel, Che, Uncle Ho, Ortega, and a whole bunch of other SOCIALISTS and LIBERALS, who surpassed EVERYONE ELSE in history, once they got their hands of the ultimate power of the state.

The estimate of 100 MILLION is considered, ironically enough, as “conservative.”

America’s left, who clearly wants to follow in Stalin/Mao’s footsteps, proudly wears their mantel.

The events described in this thread (destroying Imus and threatening to go after talk radio) are a simple manifesto of what your side plans to happen to us when you achieve total power.

I am always happy to help a history-challenged Democrat (you folks tend to revise history every chance you get).

Sen. Everett M. Dirksen broke the DEMOCRATIC filibuster that allowed the bill to be considered for passage.

From CongressLink

The House of Representatives passed a bill, known as H.R. 7152, in early 1964 and sent it to the Senate on February 17 where the real battle would take place. Senate rules had allowed southerners in the past to mount filibusters, effectively killing nearly all civil rights legislation. Passage depended on getting the Senate to vote for cloture, a procedure to end debate and bring a bill to a vote. Cloture required the votes of two-thirds of the Senate. Democrats numbered 67, exactly two-thirds of the one hundred-member Senate. But 21 of the 67 came from southern states. This so-called “southern bloc” would oppose the measure vigorously and lead the filibuster. The White House and the Senate Democrats needed support from at least 22 of the Senate’s 33 Republicans.

From the beginning, the pro-civil rights forces knew that Dirksen was the key to achieving cloture. When the Senate received the House-passed bill, Majority Leader Mike Mansfield (D-MT) issued the challenge. “We hope in vain,” he said, “if we hope that this issue can be put over safely to another tomorrow, to be dealt with by another generation of senators. The time is now. The crossroads is here in the Senate.” He then turned to face Dirksen. “I appeal to the distinguished minority leader whose patriotism has always taken precedence over his partisanship, to join with me, and I know he will, in finding the Senate’s best contribution at this time to the resolution of this grave national issue.”

The senator from Illinois replied: “I trust that the time will never come in my political career when the waters of partisanship will flow so swift and so deep as to obscure my estimate of the national interest. . . . I trust I can disenthrall myself from all bias, from all prejudice, from all irrelevancies, from all immaterial matters, and see clearly and cleanly what the issue is and then render an independent judgment.”

From the US Senate Archives:

June 10, 1964
Civil Rights Filibuster Ended

At 9:51 on the morning of June 10, 1964, Senator Robert C. Byrd [DEMOCRAT AND KKK KLEAGLE - editor] completed an address that he had begun 14 hours and 13 minutes earlier. The subject was the pending Civil Rights Act of 1964, a measure that occupied the Senate for 57 working days, including six Saturdays. A day earlier, Democratic Whip Hubert Humphrey, the bill’s manager, concluded he had the 67 votes required at that time to end the debate.

The Civil Rights Act provided protection of voting rights; banned discrimination in public facilities—including private businesses offering public services—such as lunch counters, hotels, and theaters; and established equal employment opportunity as the law of the land.

As Senator Byrd took his seat, House members, former senators, and others—150 of them—vied for limited standing space at the back of the chamber. With all gallery seats taken, hundreds waited outside in hopelessly extended lines.

Georgia Democrat Richard Russell offered the final arguments in opposition. Minority Leader Everett Dirksen, who had enlisted the Republican votes that made cloture a realistic option, spoke for the proponents with his customary eloquence. Noting that the day marked the 100th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s nomination to a second term, the Illinois Republican proclaimed, in the words of Victor Hugo, “Stronger than all the armies is an idea whose time has come.” He continued, “The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing in government, in education, and in employment. It will not be stayed or denied. It is here!”

Never in history had the Senate been able to muster enough votes to cut off a filibuster on a civil rights bill. And only once in the 37 years since 1927 had it agreed to cloture for any measure.

The clerk proceeded to call the roll. When he reached “Mr. Engle,” there was no response. A brain tumor had robbed California’s mortally ill Clair Engle of his ability to speak. Slowly lifting a crippled arm, he pointed to his eye, thereby signaling his affirmative vote. Few of those who witnessed this heroic gesture ever forgot it. When Delaware’s John Williams provided the decisive 67th vote, Majority Leader Mike Mansfield exclaimed, “That’s it!”; Richard Russell slumped; and Hubert Humphrey beamed. With six wavering senators providing a four-vote victory margin, the final tally stood at 71 to 29. Nine days later the Senate approved the act itself—producing one of the 20th century’s towering legislative achievements.

Everett Dirksen, Republican Senate Minority Leader, SAVED the Civil Rights Act.

Dirksen eschewed partisan politics FOR THE GOOD OF THE NATION, unlike the Democrats of 1964 (as well as 1864 and 2007).

“I trust that the time will never come in my political career when the waters of partisanship will flow so swift and so deep as to obscure my estimate of the national interest. Senator Everett M. Dirksen, REPUBLICAN, IL, June 10, 1964.

Thus endeth the Special History Lesson for Honora.

I have been praying this would end for the boys since that time.
I KNOW what didn’t happen: A Rape. Not there, not that night.

I KNOW what did happen: A woman, who was what Don Imus was saying the rutgers team was, ruined their lives and continued her rampage with the help of an unscrupulous man.. for months. She made it harder for REAL rape victims. She made it almost impossible for these boys lifes.and I just bet. .they got a ton of threats and insults that they never deserved to have.

That is what i know. The blogger can be stupid if she wishes.. Joy and Rosie can be stupid if they wish, but a lying tramp of a woman, ruined several lives, and seems to show no interest in even making the apology that is due them.

Bill Whittle has a great essay on why conspiracy theories are so harmful.

I know what I’m doing for the next hour or so. I’ve been waiting for this for months.

Egfrow on April 13, 2007 at 5:15 PM

Oh good Lord, it’s a joke. This thread is entirely too serious.
Doesn’t everyone on this site show some sort of bias?

Allah is right. It would look too much like we agreed with Imus, which we do not.

It doesn’t matter if you agree with Imus or not. It’s a bad idea either way, because muzzling people you disagree with isn’t right.

Your are revealing little bit of bias attitude there and showing your slip. He said nothing about Clinton. The Left he is reffering to are Socialists and Communists. Do you classify yourself under any of these idealogies?

O.K., lemme guess….Nazi’s? No wait! Stalin! Both?
Nah, just Clinton, I bet.

SouthernDem on April 13, 2007 at 4:34 PM

You will find that many of the RWs on this blog hold the odd notion that Nazism/fascism falls on the left extreme of the political spectrum. I know, I know.

All the Democrat names did not support? see Humphrey etc.

CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN Everett Dirksen got the Civil Rights Bill passed in the Senate, while all the Democrat names were opposing it.

Senate vote on this bill:

Southern Dems: 1 yea/20 nay
Southern Reps: 0 yea/1 nay
Northern Dems: 45 yea/1 nay
Northern Reps: 27 yea/5 nay

One of the Northern Reps who voted against the bill, Barry Goldwater, received the Rep party nomination that same year.
All the Democrat names did not support: see Humphrey, Mansfield, Jackson for starters.

Need to “consult” some history books.

By doing this, she took responsibility for the hate mailers.

There were only a couple of pieces of mail so she should have kept her mouth shut.

It is no accident that since 1917, the Left, once in power, has murdered over 100 MILLION people.

O.K., lemme guess….Nazi’s? No wait! Stalin! Both?
Nah, just Clinton, I bet.

So, I’ll stay out of that one…it’s much more fun to watch Ms. H duck and weave and waffle.

On point, I agree with DeLay about fighting back and dissagree with Allahpundit.

AP said: “…which is exactly how it’ll look if we use his firing as a pretext to go scalp-hunting for one of our political enemies.”

Politics ain’t beanbag, as the Chicago Alderman once said.

They are doing NOTHING BUT scalp hunting, in case you didn’t know. And they don’t intend to stop hunting scalps. EVER. That’s what libeals DO. It leads to the ultimate scalp hunts — Gulags and worse. It is no accident that since 1917, the Left, once in power, has murdered over 100 MILLION people.

So, since they won’t stop. We cannot either.