Pelosi: Hey, better yet, how about a trip to Iran?

posted at 10:08 am on April 11, 2007 by Allahpundit

This is the one case of fascist outreach I’m keen to see them pursue, so luscious would the blowback be. She needs absolution before she can meet with Holocaust deniers, though, so she ain’t going unless Tom Lantos is going. Lantos says he’d do it in a heartbeat, so our waiting for that much anticipated Ahmadinejad/Pelosi photo op might soon be over.

Don’t worry – she’ll be tough.

“I find the president of Iran’s remarks to be so repulsive that they are outside the circle of civilized human behavior,” Pelosi said, referring to Ahmadinejad’s past comments that Israel should be wiped off the face of the map and his questioning of the existence of the Holocaust.

“But a person of Mr. Lantos’ stature and personal experience is saying that — even as a Holocaust survivor and even recognizing the outrageous statements of the president of Iran — it’s important to have dialogue. I think that speaks volumes.”…

Pelosi said that throughout the congressional delegation’s recent Middle East trip, “every place we went we had a constant message: the safety and security of Israel, fighting terrorism.”

“There was, of course, a shadow over all of it, Iran: Iran’s support of terrorist groups is something that must be stopped,” she said. “Iran’s quest for a nuclear weapon is something that must not happen and we must stop them with the strongest of diplomatic measures.”

I’m exhausted by these identity politics games where one’s actions are valid or invalid depending upon how many members of an aggrieved group are on one’s side. Conservatives do it too; that’s what the Fox/CBC/Obama pas de trois over the Democratic primary debate was about. In this case Pelosi’s willing to violate constitutional law and American political custom by meeting with terrorists, but she’s not willing to meet with a bottom-feeding, cretinous Holocaust denier for fear of offending Jews. How does she negotiate the latter to facilitate the former? Simple: she takes Lantos with her. As a victim he’s beyond criticism, and thus so is she by association. That, of course, makes it a game of moral-authority poker where, in order to challenge her, we have to bet some “chips” of our own. So, fine — I’ll see her Tom Lantos and raise her Elie Wiesel. It’s disgusting, but it’s a game they love to play, including/especially with Iraq per Moron Dowd and her beatification of nascent Truther and shameless Chavez-hugger Cindy Sheehan.

Anyway, she’s not the only one capable of embarrassing the other side politically, needless to say. If I were Bush, I’d be marshalling the latest burgeoning evidence of Iranian fingerprints on Iraqi jihadi EFPs and holding onto it for some rainy day afternoon when Pelosi’s in Tehran showing off her plastic smile.

Update: There are constitutional ways of trying to initiate dialogue between the U.S. and Iran without deputizing yourself Democratic Party Secretary of State.

Update: Nice catch by K-Lo. Pelosi agrees with us about it being bad form to meet with the enemy. She just defines “enemy” differently.

Update: Another good point by Bob Owens, which ties back oddly enough into the Fox/Democrat debate standoff. Like I said, they just define enemy differently:

When Democrat Presidential candidates Clinton, Obama and Edwards dropped out of the Congressional Black Caucus Institute debate that was going to be co-sponsored by Fox News, many liberals crowed over the decision. It is their contention that Fox News is an “illegitimate” news source (or a “propaganda machine,” or not even a news outlet at all. Someone should tell Nielsen), and that if these candidates had answered the questions provided by the CBCI in a televised debate on Fox News, it would “legitimize” the network…

Apparently, the double standard is this:

Liberals are solidly behind the idea of boycotting a news network to avoid giving them legitimacy, but they are in favor of defying their own government’s foreign policy to lend legitimacy to yet another terrorist state that has sponsored attacks on our allies and are actively engaged in trying to kill U.S. soldiers.

Update: I guess I should probably link this, too.


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Nice, won’t sit with Bush about troop funding, but can go talk to the biggest bunch of terrorists in the world. :(

djohn669 on April 11, 2007 at 10:11 AM

One way ticket?

JayHaw Phrenzie on April 11, 2007 at 10:15 AM

Look on the bright side – she might get some Hugo Boss stuff out of the visit.

If I were her, though, I’d probably leave the iPod at home.

Slublog on April 11, 2007 at 10:18 AM

If I were Bush, I’d be marshalling the latest burgeoning evidence of Iranian fingerprints on Iraqi jihadi EFPs and holding onto it for some rainy day afternoon when Pelosi’s in Tehran showing off her plastic smile.

Ah, I can see it now. At the exact time that Pelosi’s meeting with Ahmadinejad, Pres. Bush holds a press conference detailing this evidence.

SCORE!

dalewalt on April 11, 2007 at 10:19 AM

Nice, won’t sit with Bush about troop funding, but can go talk to the biggest bunch of terrorists in the world. :(

You beat me to it. How in the world are they going to be able to explain that? Will anyone in the MSM be intellectually honest enough to ask her or Lantos that question?

These people are very dangerous.

TheBigOldDog on April 11, 2007 at 10:19 AM

I’m starting to wonder if Pelosi thinks so well of herself that she’s considering Presidential candidacy.

Kralizec on April 11, 2007 at 10:22 AM

She seems to think she already is the President.

KennyB on April 11, 2007 at 10:27 AM

After the trip to Damascus, I can’t say this is a surprise.

Here’s one angle I’d like to see discussed:

What do the political consultants say about Pelosi’s affect on other women in politics? She has such a high-profile role as the Speaker of the House. Does the image of her meeting with Assad (or Ahmadinnerjacket) enhance the public perception of women in positions of high power? Of do these images eventually turn into “Jane Fonda on a Vietnamese anti-aircraft battery” incident that turn the electorate off to the idea of a woman President?

Personally I’m fine with the idea of a woman President — as long as that woman is either Peggy Noonan or Claudia Rosette and her first action after inauguration is to physically demolish the UN building. Preferrably by taking the Mighty Missouri out of mothballs, sailing it up the East River, and training its main guns on said blight of the Manhattan skyline.

But I realize I may not be entirely in the mainstream with that view.

Anton on April 11, 2007 at 10:28 AM

Enemy = Fox News and Bush
Sit and chat = Ahmedenijad and al Assad.

Dash on April 11, 2007 at 10:31 AM

Personally I’m fine with the idea of a woman President — as long as that woman is either Peggy Noonan or Claudia Rosette and her first action after inauguration is to physically demolish the UN building. Preferrably by taking the Mighty Missouri out of mothballs, sailing it up the East River, and training its main guns on said blight of the Manhattan skyline.

Now THAT’s politics!

Dash on April 11, 2007 at 10:34 AM

I think we should name the next aircraft carrier The U.S.S. Nancy Pelosi. The ship’s motto will be “The Strongest of Diplomatic Measures”. Imagine all the hippies in S.F. and their heads exploding!

Tony737 on April 11, 2007 at 10:35 AM

The same question yet again:

Is there an enemy of the US that the democrats won’t meet with?

No.

When is her meeting with OBL set up? We need to find common ground with him too, right?

lorien1973 on April 11, 2007 at 10:38 AM

“The road to peace is paved with Iranian-made IEDs.”

World B. Free on April 11, 2007 at 10:40 AM

Ahmadinejad/Pelosi photo

I can see it in future History Books

Drtuddle on April 11, 2007 at 10:47 AM

My problem is that she has no authority to speak to a foreign power on behalf of the American people because the American people didn’t elect her. She has no authority to speak for anyone outside of her little tiny district in San Francisco.

If she is going to go “opening dialogs” on behalf of America, then she should be responsible to America. She isn’t. We can’t vote her in or out of office if we wanted to. She has hijacked American foreign policy and I am pretty upset about that.

She represents nobody outside of her district.

crosspatch on April 11, 2007 at 10:49 AM

Hey Nancy,

Why not go all out and wear a full burka this time?

Seriously, I hope someone on the Republican side is keeping a scrapbook of all the Dem photo ops with enemy dictators, to be used during the ’08 campaign.

Thanks Nancy!

Nice Deb on April 11, 2007 at 10:51 AM

Please, Iran . . . make her an offer she can’t refuse and keep her.

rplat on April 11, 2007 at 10:52 AM

maybe she’s going to negotiate the release of that sailor’s ipod?

lorien1973 on April 11, 2007 at 10:55 AM

Crosspatch, she should go with a picture book of the SF moonbat parades and nude bike rides and tell Dinner jacket “this is who I speak for”
Now that would be a great photo op.

bbz123 on April 11, 2007 at 10:55 AM

One way ticket?

JayHaw Phrenzie on April 11, 2007 at 10:15 AM

She does it and it will be..

Viper1 on April 11, 2007 at 11:00 AM

Has anyone seen the Republican Jewish Coalition ad smacking down Pelosi for her Syria trip?

Caught it on FNC last night.

JammieWearingFool on April 11, 2007 at 11:01 AM

Just…imagine Nancy.

Ropera on April 11, 2007 at 11:11 AM

Personally I’m fine with the idea of a woman President — as long as that woman is either Peggy Noonan or Claudia Rosette and her first action after inauguration is to physically demolish the UN building. Preferrably by taking the Mighty Missouri out of mothballs, sailing it up the East River, and training its main guns on said blight of the Manhattan skyline.

But I realize I may not be entirely in the mainstream with that view.

Anton on April 11, 2007 at 10:28 AM

If by “mainstream” you mean what the presstitutes and DhimmiRATs desire, we’re both out of the mainstream. However, I have but one command – Fire for effect!

steveegg on April 11, 2007 at 11:18 AM

The setting of precedents in international affairs is a dangerous buisness. Can she really be this ignorant? Is she secretly harboring ideas of being president? Or has she decided to be president sans a constitutional election?

hoosierken on April 11, 2007 at 11:24 AM

Don’t forget to pack your scarfs….

soulsirkus on April 11, 2007 at 11:25 AM

Two questions:

Will they shake her hand?

Will she take Nicky Joe Rahall with her again just for the street cred he lends?

Readymade on April 11, 2007 at 11:30 AM

Jammies, you might want follow the link above…

Jaibones on April 11, 2007 at 11:30 AM

Folks I think we can impeach or recall her or whatever for being insane now.
Think about this. Would you go visit a country and a leader who just kidnapped 15 British citizens, played it for all it was worth for propaganda purposes, and organizes rallies shere “Death to America” is the main theme????

Liberalism is truly a mental disease

LakeRuins on April 11, 2007 at 11:33 AM

On second thought, maybe she will take all of her Democrat buddies with her, Ahmadinnerjacket will take them hostage, and George Bush will once again state our country’s policy is not to negoiate with terrorists.

We can have new elections to replace ‘em. Hold up this is sounding better and better.

Hmmmm

LakeRuins on April 11, 2007 at 11:36 AM

Lakeruins, they think that they are truly bulletproof because they are ,ahem,compassionate and willing to dialogue. However we have seen many a lib turn conservative once bullets start flying past their heads.

bbz123 on April 11, 2007 at 11:43 AM

Next up: Pelosi unveils program to develop time machine to facilitate open dialogue with King George III. Insiders say that if all goes well, Ghengis Khan and Xerxes may follow, pending availability of appropriate translators.

Blacklake on April 11, 2007 at 11:45 AM

Despite the ineptitude of the G.O.P. – San Fran Nan’s antics are giving me hope that we might very well win in 2008.

Hilts on April 11, 2007 at 11:48 AM

“Next up: Pelosi unveils program…”

Heh heh, “Unveils”….Good one!

Nice Deb on April 11, 2007 at 11:56 AM

I don’t get it. Do they just not think that these people are dangerous? I got news for ya grandma, they blow up women right alongside kids. You will sit and bemoan the fact that our troops don’t have adequate protection and yet you somehow think a headscarf and being a member of congress gives you some sort of protection.
Wake up and smell the coffee, organically grown and harvested, sistah.

LakeRuins on April 11, 2007 at 12:01 PM

Damascus Rose on the road again! Priceless!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on April 11, 2007 at 12:04 PM

“Folks I think we can impeach or recall her or whatever for being insane now.”

I keep hearing this “recall” theme on several blogs. It can’t happen. WE didn’t elect her so WE can’t recall her. She didn’t stand for a vote from the entire country. She wasn’t on the ballot outside of her district. That’s the point. She thinks she can speak for all of us or possibly make some giant mistake overseas and she doesn’t have to answer to us. She only answers to one little tiny district in San Francisco.

Basically, her little district has hijacked the foreign policy of the US. This is typical of people who are “in touch with their feelings” and “in the moment”. In other words, nothing matters but ME, RIGHT NOW. She isn’t considering how this could impact Democrats in the future. Imagine a Democrat is President and some numbskull representative from the “Peace, Love, Dope” party or something goes to a foreign country and completely pisses them off at the entire US. And what if the people in that representative’s district LOVE it. The Rep. can’t be voted out of office because we didn’t vote the Rep. IN to office.

It is a matter of a person acting completely outside their mandate. Imagin President Bush speaking for Mexico against Mexico’s wishes … or speaking for Canada against Canada’s wishes … or speaking for all of North America on some trip to China … without coordination with those countries. It is the same thing.

Basically we have San Francisco sending their rep to Syria and now possibly Iran pretending to speak for the entire country and I want no part of it. I want it stated loud and clear by the President in public on television that Nany Pelosi is elected to speak for her own district in San Francisco ONLY and does not speak for the entire country.

crosspatch on April 11, 2007 at 12:06 PM

Politically speaking, I hope she goes, because this just provides Republicans with even more good material for the ’08 election cycle. The headscarf photo is going to be great campaign fodder on its own, but a handshake photo with Ahmdadinwhatever will show a trend of the leader of the democratic party trying to actively undermine America’s security interests in a time of war.

thirteen28 on April 11, 2007 at 12:12 PM

Enemies?

Enemies are just friends we haven’t made yet…and whose fault is that? Ours, of course, because we haven’t tried to understand them. There are probably perfectly good reasons why female journalists are pummelled to death while in police custody….why can’t we keep an open mind about such things?

And Holocaust? What Holocaust? Isn’t a scientific skepticism about such things healty? After all, I wasn’t even alive then…how do I reeeaaallly know it happened?

So, I think it’s a good idea that Pelosi goes and opens up a dialogue. It will enhance the educational process that we in the west need.

She should just stay away from police stations.

Blaise on April 11, 2007 at 12:16 PM

Hey if the Iranians kidnapped them can we let them rot for 444 days. While we set up a dialog.

djohn669 on April 11, 2007 at 12:32 PM

Everybody keeps talking about letting the Dems continue to act this way, that it will be good for the ’08 election. 2 things.
What makes you think there will be elections in ’08 if they continue this way?
or
What makes you think you will still be alive to vote?

Have a nice day!

LakeRuins on April 11, 2007 at 12:42 PM

I dare her to take Barney Frank along.

A valid criticism of the proposed trip would be to cite the “homophobic” tendencies, though “homo-cidal” would be more truthful, of the regime because they are at odds with the values of the Speaker and her constituents.

rw on April 11, 2007 at 12:47 PM

“There was, of course, a shadow over all of it, Iran: Iran’s support of terrorist groups is something that must be stopped,’’ she said. “Iran’s quest for a nuclear weapon is something that must not happen and we must stop them with the strongest of diplomatic measures.’’

Without the threat of the military to back up any diplomatic measures, it is all hollow words. These are thugs running that country. They only thing that will make an impression on them is a threat that could cost them their power in the region. Anything else is as meaningless as the CO2 coming out of the back end of a cow…..

Mallard T. Drake on April 11, 2007 at 1:05 PM

I dare her to take Barney Frank along.

I dare her to take Rosie along. Of course they’ll need a Russian Condor to lug Rosie, but hey it’s worth it.

Iblis on April 11, 2007 at 1:06 PM

You know, Allah, this is soooooooooo like 7:30 AM.

amerpundit on April 11, 2007 at 1:16 PM

Preferrably by taking the Mighty Missouri out of mothballs, sailing it up the East River, and training its main guns on said blight of the Manhattan skyline.

Where would we go to get the best view? I wanna get there early.

TexasDan on April 11, 2007 at 1:27 PM

Calm down, there’s a new congress in town.

And a great way to stock up on duty free merchandise!

Kini on April 11, 2007 at 1:41 PM

Oh and Sky Mall stuff!

Kini on April 11, 2007 at 1:42 PM

The only word that comes to mind when I see her and Lantos, is oblivious.

oakpack on April 11, 2007 at 2:19 PM

That isn’t even the worst part…

Lantos noted that “with the speaker’s support,” he has co-sponsored legislation in the House that calls for making available to all countries — including Iran — nuclear fuel for peaceful purposes under international oversight by establishing a “nuclear fuel bank.”

“So if the Iranian president says that he is developing (nuclear material) for peaceful purposes, we are assisting him in that process,” said Lantos, who anticipated the legislation could pass as early as May.

And yes… Lantos(D) has visitied the North Koreans… and he took them at their word too… and made no apologies when they tested their first nuclear weapon under the watchful eyes of Iranian observers.

If neither North Korea or Iran have generators, or transmission lines, then what rational person would believe they are enriching uranium for nuclear power plants that they don’t even have?

DANEgerus on April 11, 2007 at 4:21 PM

Maybe they could clone Hitler (like in The Boys from Brazil). Then Nancy could adopt the young Hitler and raise him to be a fine young man.

cmay on April 11, 2007 at 4:51 PM

I support Pelosi’s right to go and talk with Iran. I just don’t support her right to return.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on April 11, 2007 at 6:09 PM

Memo to G.W.43….No transportation, no security, no visas, no nothing = no Pelosi!!

NEMETI IN SYRACUSE on April 11, 2007 at 7:58 PM

I been thinkin’.

I think lab rats are smarter than liberal Democrats.

When you put a lab rat in a maze, they don’t keep making the same mistakes…they eventually learn how to get to the food.

Liberal Democrats, on the other hand, seem never to learn from their mistakes, or the mistakes of the past,regardless of how many people had to die. It doesn’t matter how many Hitlers, Stalins, Pol Pots that we have to see….they never learn.

Lantos said that, regardless of how offensive the utterings of Ahmadinejad, we still must have dialogue with him. By that standard, Neville Chamberlain was RIGHT to go to Munich, he was RIGHT to dialogue with Hitler, and he was RIGHT to come back with his little piece of paper that gave “peace in our time”.

Lantos is of Hungarian birth. It was during his lifetime that Hitler came to power and that Chamberlain negotiated away the rights of the neighbouring state of Czechoslovakia. It was in his lifetime that the appeasement of Hitler led to the Holocaust of the Jews.

If Lantos, a Jewish survivor of the Holocaust cannot learn from that history, I submit that the people of his district would be better served in Congress by a lab rat.

Blaise on April 11, 2007 at 8:11 PM

What would we negotiate for Nancy if they took her hostage?

Hi, this is Ms. Pelosi on the line and I have the hostage takers’ demands. Guys? Hey guys? Hello? Is anybody there? Hello?

Mojave Mark on April 11, 2007 at 9:07 PM

Prosecute Pelosi under the Logan Act.

Phil Byler on April 11, 2007 at 9:15 PM

I can just picture it… it’s January 1939, Europe’s map is getting redrawn daily, and Madame Pelosi goes to Hitler and says, “Can’t we all just get along?”

As far as I’m concerned, that’s exactly what she’s doing.

flutejpl on April 11, 2007 at 9:21 PM

The only history Democrats remember is defunding the Vietnam war, and they are living it all over again. Except that’s where history stops in the Democrat mind. What happened next will be a repeat of history if we leave Iraq like Vietnam. It doesn’t turn out well.

Kini on April 11, 2007 at 9:35 PM

Imagin President Bush speaking for Mexico against Mexico’s wishes … or speaking for Canada against Canada’s wishes … or speaking for all of North America on some trip to China … without coordination with those countries. It is the same thing.
crosspatch on April 11, 2007 at 12:06 PM

…or her speaking for Israel….Oh wait, she did that.

This dizzy bimbo is sucking up to our enemies as if they will be voting for her rather than some nutball in San Flakecisco.

But then, she seems to be taking a page from Jimmah so maybe she’s playing for a Nobel or something.

91Veteran on April 11, 2007 at 10:21 PM

One way ticket?

JayHaw Phrenzie on April 11, 2007 at 10:15 AM

Unfortunately, we won’t be that lucky. Too bad – if we were, it couldn’t happen to a nicer apologist. When it comes to chutzpah, Nancy Pelosi takes the prize.

SpartRan on April 11, 2007 at 10:42 PM

What kind of carbon trail is she leaving on all this trips?

crosspatch on April 12, 2007 at 12:12 AM

I mean, can’t she just walk down to Kinkos and use their teleconference thingy?

crosspatch on April 12, 2007 at 12:12 AM

OK, tests of test, say “Aye” if you would trust Nancy Pelosi to install your home security system………

PinkyBigglesworth on April 12, 2007 at 2:36 AM

Didn’t the Saudi’s call her the ‘Alternate President’? I read that somewhere.

CrazyFool on April 12, 2007 at 10:54 AM

The following is a must read.

Exclusive:The Liberal/Islamist War Against America
Christopher G. Adamo
Author: Christopher G. Adamo
Source: The Family Security Foundation, Inc.
Date: April 12, 2007

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/challenges.php?id=887690

Connie on April 12, 2007 at 7:03 PM