Video: Michelle talks Imus on O’Reilly

posted at 9:44 pm on April 9, 2007 by Allahpundit

You won’t often find the boss perfectly in sync with the New York Times, but the stars have aligned for the I-man. I’m as shocked as he is by the uproar over this — not because it’s not deserved, but because it is deserved and has actually materialized, unlike the dozens of other times he’s told “jokes” like these and then beat the rap by pleading guilty to comedy. I wonder what’s different now; I bet he wonders too. Probably it’s fallout from Michael Richards, who was also ostensibly shooting for funny but ended up somewhere between creepy and vicious. Comics simply aren’t going to get the same slack on race humor after that. Imus is learning the hard way.

KP proves here she’s capable of calling for the axe when need be — but then why did she grant Unstable Mabel an 11th-hour reprieve? Just one more reason why it’d never work between us.


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I am decidedly *not* an Imus fan. I find him tired and lame. However this is BS in my opinion, I’m for people saying whatever they wish on the radio and if people dont like it .. tune out. Enough people do that and the man will get axed.

Not a fan of the calling for him to get fired over this but I do respect MM in that she is very consistent and in line with her beliefs so kudos there. She has every right to those opinions I just disagree.

Guys like Sharpton however, maybe I missed him berating guys like 50 cent or any other rap/hip hop start who routinely calls women bitches and hos. I find this all quite racist, but Imus less so than the mock outrage of Sharpton et al.

Dash on April 9, 2007 at 10:00 PM

Mr O hit the nail on the head: “Hate sells and MSNBC is selling hate”. Could a clearer point have been made? Imus has been selling this crap right along with Howard Stern. There’s no difference, and his charity off-sets aren’t enough to smooth it over.

thedecider on April 9, 2007 at 10:01 PM

I’m not offended by Imus’s comments… they were funny. Patrice Oneal was a guest during the first H&C segment tonight and my attitude is more in step with his.

Nappy Headed Hos is undeniably funny. and for those who can’t stomach it, I feel sorry. I can’t bring myself to feign outrage over matters of racial humor.

It was funny. He shouldn’t have to apologize. And we all laughed when we heard it.

Opinionnation on April 9, 2007 at 10:04 PM

Phil Mushnick made some good points.

JammieWearingFool on April 9, 2007 at 10:05 PM

“nappy headed hos”? Has this guy seen HIS OWN hair???

Tony737 on April 9, 2007 at 10:08 PM

Mad props to Michelle for making the point that equating Imus to Limbaugh is bogus.

Limbaugh didn’t say that McNabb was inferior as a consequence of his blackness. What he said was that the media, based on his blackitude, set him up as more than he really was, and then when he couldn’t live up to the hype, the media turned upon him like ravenous beasts, and even his blackosity couldn’t save him.

The media does this build-them-up-to-knock-them-down routine with various people, for various reasons, but for black quarterbacks there is no question that he’s 100% right.

The Monster on April 9, 2007 at 10:09 PM

Another good discussion between KP, O’Reilly and Michelle. And the vigorous defense of Rush at MM.com is just and welcomed.

Imus is something, I never liked his style, content or his hair. Just another low-rent blabber mouth loser.

Zorro on April 9, 2007 at 10:22 PM

Mad props to Michelle for making the point that equating Imus to Limbaugh is bogus
The Monster on April 9, 2007 at 10:09 PM

That swipe at Rush was gratuitous. Nothing he said could be taken as racially denigrating yet the drive-bys bring it up constantly.

billy on April 9, 2007 at 10:29 PM

Hey, I’m no Imus fan by a long shot. In fact, I never liked the man or most of what he has to say.

Our current infatuation with speech taboos strikes me as counterproductive, if not dangerous.

They can shut down Imus if they want to, but not until they shut down Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. After all, rules are supposed to be evenly applied, right?

petefrt on April 9, 2007 at 10:35 PM

Yep. More elaboration on the bogus Rush-Imus comparison here.

Michelle on April 9, 2007 at 10:36 PM

Imus is now taking PC lessions from Rev.Al & Jessie.
POT-KETTLE-BLACK

Texyank on April 9, 2007 at 10:37 PM

KP >> Sweet Jane, though,

Blacksheep on April 9, 2007 at 10:39 PM

Yep. More elaboration on the bogus Rush-Imus comparison here.

Michelle on April 9, 2007 at 10:36 PM

Mr. Bill did tey to sneak that in didn’t he.
Glad you called him on that. Thanks. . .

Texyank on April 9, 2007 at 10:39 PM

So: Stop. Comparing. Rush. To. Imus.

Thank you, Michelle.

petefrt on April 9, 2007 at 10:43 PM

Just one more reason why it’d never work between us.

Well, I don’t want her anymore either. KP an old maid? Why not?

TwinkietheKid on April 9, 2007 at 10:44 PM

I think that there is a good possibility that this whole thing was planned.

First, all of this hype can only help AnusImus’s ratings.

Second, this is going to be a “perfect”, although illegitimate, excuse for some schmuck in Congress to introduce a bill designed to do what they’ve been trying to do for a long time and until now haven’t found justification:

The Muzzling Of Talk Radio.

STAY TUNED! (just not to Imus!!)

hillbillyjim on April 9, 2007 at 10:47 PM

“nappy headed hos”after haplessly (but accurately, as in I didn’t make it up) explaining that “faggot” in New England means “wimp” from the dictionary definition of “old lady”, but informed that other parts of the country say “faggot” means “fag,” as in wimpy gay, as opposed to evidently something like biker gay, which is tough, not wimpy, what is the other part of the country’s definition of “ho?” We were under the impression it means “whore.” A bunch of winning college basketball women are “whores?” Ha … ha ? Say what? Course, never listen to Imus anyway or Stern. Potty mouth gets old after a minute. It’s especially grating to hear it from elderly men who should be upholding standards of social dignity, not upholding 1960s shlock behavior.

naliaka on April 9, 2007 at 10:57 PM

Imus best buy a good supply of’civility credits‘, maybe even some racism offsets. Pass the hat, please.

petefrt on April 9, 2007 at 10:58 PM

Second, this is going to be a “perfect”, although illegitimate, excuse for some schmuck in Congress to introduce a bill designed to do what they’ve been trying to do for a long time and until now haven’t found justification:

The Muzzling Of Talk Radio.

STAY TUNED! (just not to Imus!!)
hillbillyjim on April 9, 2007 at 10:47 PM

Yep, always some angle to work…

naliaka on April 9, 2007 at 10:59 PM

Yep, always some angle to work…

naliaka on April 9, 2007 at 10:59 PM

Ain’t that in the job description? Tri–angle–u–lation.

hillbillyjim on April 9, 2007 at 11:14 PM

KP’s defense of the View’s resident potty mouth is what prompted this comment..I’ll admit it…I watched the View today. Rosie wasn’t there, but it was absolutely the most blatant bit of hypocrisy, ever, watching the others. Barbara, Joy, and Elizabeth hammered Imus, relentlessly, for being so offensive. None of them recognized how ridiculous they sounded. They would have had some credibility if at anytime, previously, they would have confronted Rosie about her 9-11 conspiracies and defended the victims of 9-11 against Rosie’s BDS. I was waiting for the lightning bolt to come down. Alas, it never did.

Melba Toast on April 9, 2007 at 11:28 PM

And we all laughed when we heard it.
Opinionnation on April 9, 2007 at 10:04 PM

I didn’t hear it. I don’t listen to him because I find him routinely boorish and unfunny. When I read about his comment, it didn’t make me laugh. I chalked it up to his usual brand of eye-rolling blather. I don’t think he should be fired. He clearly has an audience (though he’ll never count me as a member) and the second amendment supports his right to say anything he wants. The suspension thing is nothing more than a face-saving technique against the likes of the laughable hypocrites – Sharpton and Jackson.

thedecider on April 9, 2007 at 11:31 PM

Oh yeah, while I’m thinkin’ about it:

Weren’t Mr. Limbaugh’s speculations proven when the media wend gaga over the Superbowl coaches?

I am happy for Tony Dungee and the Colts, but I believe I don’t need to say anything else.

P.S. Go Panthers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hillbillyjim on April 9, 2007 at 11:34 PM

(sp.) went gaga

sorry folks, I didn’t proofread. I know gaga isn’t really a word. but WTF isn’t either.

hillbillyjim on April 9, 2007 at 11:38 PM

Another point–Imus’s hate and derogatory comments and impersonating bits are usually pointed at people in power, regardless of race, who, for the most part, should be reminded that they are not any better than anyone else…He crossed the line this time. Because he targeted college girls playing ball, 15 college girls who had accomplished something, that nearly every other college girl admired. And Imus tore them down. Not fair.

Melba Toast on April 9, 2007 at 11:44 PM

Just watched the rerun on Fox. Good work Michelle.

Tony737 on April 9, 2007 at 11:45 PM

“[White]Comics simply aren’t going to get the same slack on race humor after that.”

I just thought I would make that clear. I really dislike Imus. He is a bully who is rarely funny. So defending him is not fun but I must. Why? The attacks on him are based on political correctness. The idea that certain groups are victims and others are victimizers and victimizers can never make fun of, use the language of, or in any way be condescending to the annointed victims.

Black and Hispanic comics/entertainers have no such problems. It’s the same mentality that dictates that all white men on sitcoms and in commercials must be portrayed as buffoons. Is the villain in a book a Muslim terrorist? Quick! Change it to a European businessman. Ever notice that it is perfectly acceptable to affect a southern accent to show that a character is a moron?

Seeing MM go after Imus reminded me of the South Park where Cartman went after Family Guy. He is a target because a lot of people don’t like him or MSNBC. Imus is a jerk but I would defend him just because he did not say anything that a thousand black entertainers haven’t said a million times.

I’m still waiting for someone to suggest Richard Pryor’s work be censored. (Crickets chirping.)

Bill C on April 9, 2007 at 11:56 PM

“Imprimatur” at the spur of the moment is impressive. I agree, 737, good work indeed.

hillbillyjim on April 9, 2007 at 11:58 PM

Bill C.

I would suggest that Richard Pryor’s humor, done in reverse, or by a “cracker” would have brought thousands of outcries for “censorship”.

Are you suggesting that it’s OK for one group of folks to make jokes and not another? Bill C. you have had too much Kool-Aid.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 12:04 AM

but then why did she grant Unstable Mabel an 11th-hour reprieve?

Feminism kicking in, perhaps? More apt to give a woman a second chance (or more chances), than a man?

lorien1973 on April 10, 2007 at 12:05 AM

Lighten up folks.

Hell, if I couldn’t laugh at myself every day, I would probably go insane and turn into a liberal.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 12:07 AM

Are you suggesting that it’s OK for one group of folks to make jokes and not another? Bill C. you have had too much Kool-Aid.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 12:04 AM

That’s what i am suggesting and that is the definition of PC. Imus is not a racist for using using the language of black people to make a joke about a basketball team. He wasn’t funny either. Michael Richards wasn’t funny but he wasn’t being racist. He was riffing on the n-word which is what black comics do all the time.

Are you suggesting that we should not be color blind when we judge humor?

Bill C on April 10, 2007 at 12:22 AM

I am suggesting that you are a dumb-ass who let’s your politics color your good sense.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 12:28 AM

Instead of name calling how about a real debate?

Bill C on April 10, 2007 at 12:30 AM

Sorry about the incorrect apostrotphe.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 12:31 AM

Get it? Come in there when you’ve got something, Bill C.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 12:33 AM

Comparing Rush to Imus??? O’ Riley’s WAY off base with that. Imus’s firing would be irrelevant.

Mojave Mark on April 10, 2007 at 12:37 AM

Anyone remember this……??

PinkyBigglesworth on April 10, 2007 at 12:38 AM

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Michelle on April 10, 2007 at 12:38 AM

I know. Let’s all go and crucify Rush Libkiller just in case. That way we’ll be safe from the left’s moves to take control. NOT!

This little episode ought to show a lot of un-initiated folks just how political and one-sided the media outlets that they trust really are.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 12:41 AM

Or this….?

Didn’t see Jesse and the boys in protest. Maybe I missed it?

PinkyBigglesworth on April 10, 2007 at 12:42 AM

Nappy Headed Hos is undeniably funny, and for those who can’t stomach it, I feel sorry.

It was funny. He shouldn’t have to apologize. And we all laughed when we heard it.

Opinionnation on April 9, 2007 at 10:04 PM

You have a warped sense of humor. I despise racial pc crap, but “nappy headed hos” is nothing but a racist epithet. Might as well have said “niggers”; what’s the difference? Would you laugh at Imus referring to a college team of women’s basketball players as “niggers”?

Fire the no-talent dunce, and then someone tell PMSNBC to fire Olberdouche.

And another thing: thanks to MM for the catch on Rush. His commentary on the media deification of McNabb cannot be compared to this mess in any way unless you’re an idiot, and O’Reilly fits the bill nicely.

What a twit.

Jaibones on April 10, 2007 at 12:47 AM

I appreciate my privelege to comment here, however, I am at a loss when I try to figure out the constraints.

I respect (and usually agree) with the powers that be here, and I mean no disrespect, but calling someone a simple childhood name doesn’t seem like such a bad thing in the light of something like, oh, say, Imus.

I hope this will clear any misunderstanding.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 12:51 AM

thedecider on April 9, 2007 at 11:31 PM

Agree with your comments, but not your conclusion. The First Amendment does not guarantee anyone’s right to a job talking on the radio. I haven’t heard anyone suggest that he should be jailed.

Maybe a quick review of the constitution is in order.

Jaibones on April 10, 2007 at 12:51 AM

Didn’t see Jesse and the boys in protest. Maybe I missed it?

PinkyBigglesworth on April 10, 2007 at 12:42 AM

Actually, I agree with the first 30 seconds of this. It is because of people who make money off of controversy that things like this get blown up into a huge issue. Try and catch Patrice Oneal on H&C. The idea is that we should let people say what they want and then judge them on whether it was funny or not.

In order to get past prejudice we have to feel it is ok to be honest with one another without fear. PC speech codes promote division.

Bill C on April 10, 2007 at 12:52 AM

PS I assumed that you meant First Amendment and not the Second, which guarantees the right to speak your mind while holding a shotgun.

Jaibones on April 10, 2007 at 12:53 AM

I respect (and usually agree) with the powers that be here, and I mean no disrespect, but calling someone a simple childhood name doesn’t seem like such a bad thing in the light of something like, oh, say, Imus.

I hope this will clear any misunderstanding.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 12:51 AM

It stifles debate. Unless, of course, you are a comedian and then it is really funny.

Bill C on April 10, 2007 at 12:55 AM

You have a warped sense of humor. I despise racial pc crap, but “nappy headed hos” is nothing but a racist epithet. Might as well have said “niggers”; what’s the difference? Would you laugh at Imus referring to a college team of women’s basketball players as “niggers”?

It depends on context. Someone yelling that from the stands would be a racist. Richard Pryor saying n-word is funny. Eddie Murphy mocking white people is funny. But neither is racist.

Bill C on April 10, 2007 at 1:01 AM

I’m the first in the world to encourage everyone to have a little thicker skin.

At the same time, I’m convinced that until liberal slander slingers are held to account by the same standard as Conservatives Pundits have been, the history of double standards and political bias will continue unabated.

Imus and his sidekick have and did go way too far over the line and separation from their current employment is a step towards much needed accountability.

We’re well within our rights to demand equal treatment and that Imus be held to the same standard many Conservatives have been.

Speakup on April 10, 2007 at 1:04 AM

I hope I didn’t offend anyone with my previous posts, and if I did, I apologize.

I wonder when someone will post a list of offensive remarks/behavior.

It seems kinda arbitrary to me. I feel sure that the attention that this story is getting is also getting me undue scrutiny. Oh well.

I love you guys anyway.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 1:04 AM

G’night folks. I’ll leave you with this little nugget, which you’ve already seen:

It depends on context. Someone yelling that from the stands would be a racist. Richard Pryor saying n-word is funny. Eddie Murphy mocking white people is funny. But neither is racist.

Bill C on April 10, 2007 at 1:01 AM

I rest my case.

Thank you for your attention.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 1:14 AM

I hope I didn’t offend anyone with my previous posts, and if I did, I apologize.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 1:04 AM

On behalf of everyone who might have been offended when you called me a name, I accept.

Bill C on April 10, 2007 at 1:15 AM

I rest my case.

Thank you for your attention.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 1:14 AM

Please don’t rest because there is nothing more infuriating than using the rhetorical device, “You are wrong and if you can’t understand why then I can’t be bothered to tell you.” HBJ, I am sincerely asking you to tell me, specifically, what is wrong with what I said.

Bill C on April 10, 2007 at 1:19 AM

I wonder when someone will post a list of offensive remarks/behavior.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 1:04 AM

If your “White”, in any case, you would be “censored”, why bother? All you have to do is sneeze, and say “God Bless You!.

BOOM, you’re done!

Welcome to America?

But if your “African-American” you can talk about “Bitches and Whores” all day long, calling your fellow man “Niggers”, get’s you a spot on the “Grammy’s”.

If you’re “Islam-American” (what ever that means) you can conspire, degrate women, insult gays, murder, just don’t “offend them”, you racist “pig”.

If your “Gay-American”, all bets are off……… you can bend over, get it in the behind on top of an American Flag, and not cause a whimper in the MSM, while you show a raging case of “Genital Warts” on “Good Morning America”.

“Girls gone Wild” during spring break…….. “what the f*&k is that?”

Yeah, this is the country I grew up in, and as old “Eagle Scout”, I am a felon.

PinkyBigglesworth on April 10, 2007 at 1:21 AM

PinkyBigglesworth on April 10, 2007 at 1:21 AM

I guess I just don’t understand why anyone would want to use offensive terms in the first place. To me it indicates a certain lack of skills with the spoken word.

I don’t think you really mean it this way but some echo sentiments similar to yours and it sounds like they have somehow had their candy taken away because they can’t use offensive words without being called out on it.

Bradky on April 10, 2007 at 1:29 AM

Bill C.,

Respectfully, I shouldn’t have to tell you or anyone else the harm that is done by perpetuating language that is, by design, or indifference, hateful or hurtful to an individual or a group of people.

By defending Richard Pryor, I feel that, maybe not intended, you are defending a position that is, in this political climate, not acceptable.

See my previous post. (12:07AM)

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 1:33 AM

By defending Richard Pryor, I feel that, maybe not intended, you are defending a position that is, in this political climate, not acceptable.

See my previous post. (12:07AM)

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 1:33 AM

Should we desire that this be acceptable in any political climate? (Rhetorical question)

Those who strive to set the example will eventually win over those who feel the need to be offensive.

Bradky on April 10, 2007 at 1:37 AM

If anybody cares, here’s a little hillbillyjimism:

If you can’t laugh at yourself, then you can’t see straight.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 2:05 AM

Bradky on April 10, 2007 at 1:29 AM

I don’t understand it, either. I was just trying to make the obvious point out of the “insane asylum” we find ourselves in.

I still use words like, “Please”, “Thank You”, “With Respect”, and I remember about ten years ago when I started to see “Gang Clothes” in Sears and JC Penny’s, my immediate thought was, ” Oh, no………”.

Like clockwork, the MSM was reporting a rise of “crime” in the suburbs, resembling “ghettos”…… One story that never quite left me, a fourteen year old girl thought she was “fly” enough to date a “homeboy” in a suburb of San Diego…… They met one night in an alley behind her house, probalbly to talk like we all talked to our “first loves”, with dreams and hopes of the future…… there was a whole world ahead of them, both.

She was raped and killed in front of him, then he was shot in the back of head, by gang bangers that saw their clothes as a different gang. Teenagers themselves.

Hard core Homicide Invesigators stood over these children and tears ran down their faces…… their small perfect bodies violated, lives never to be lived, gone forever.

Why……….. maybe you can tell me………

In the years to follow, has our county gotten better, or worse? Offensive terms? How about “Offensive Culture”?

PinkyBigglesworth on April 10, 2007 at 2:18 AM

Just one more reason why it’d never work between us.

AP, If Mary Matalin(sp?) can be married to the rajin cajun, why couldnt it work for you and KP??

mrfixit on April 10, 2007 at 2:35 AM

It is irritating enough to try to be PC among your idealogical adversaries. It is full frontal fiddlecrap to have to defend against the PC wave of Psuedoknowitall here too. Everyone here is gonna jump outta their skins to be the first to call: 1st Amendment. Horsefeathers.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 2:46 AM

How about let’s do away with “PC.”

Let’s all demand of our representatives and senators, some AC. Actuat accountability would be nice, but, howzabout, Actually Count the votes and then send them yea or nay, back to their constituients. All of them. Every vote, every day.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 3:10 AM

At the risk of drawing people’s ire, including that of the goddess, i have to say that hillbillyjim has been commenting here for at least as long as i’ve been reading this site and has always come across as pretty agreeable. Seems like y’all are coming down a little hard on him. And Rush was right about Donovan McNabb.

forged rite on April 10, 2007 at 3:31 AM

I understand Imus insulted the basketball team. Where I am confused is how is it racist.

Since when does nappy heads only apply to black people? I see nappy headed white people every day. Or was it the hos part that was racist. Are white women considered whores and not hos? Where is the separation? Or maybe racism is just implied due to the fact that the team was all black.

Now the National Association of Black Journalists is calling for his firing. I am only left wondering what the National Association of White Journalists position is.

iNeXuS on April 10, 2007 at 4:07 AM

If it makes you feel any better, iNeXuS, some of the reaction to this incident is puzzling this nappy-headed not-a-ho also. OK it’s not really puzzling me. Why is ‘nappy-headed’ an insult? Saying that I have nappy-hair is like saying that I have dark brown skin.

Black people have a lot of self-hate. This incident is a big, ugly example of it.

That other word, however, is different.

baldilocks on April 10, 2007 at 4:29 AM

Apparently, Disney wants to be associated with hate. That’s why they haven’t canned Rosie.

That hypocrisy astounds me.

I am wondering if this is the beginning of the left’s attempt to reinstate the fairness doctrine by generating a “need” for it by holding up Imus as an example.

Of course, it would apply to conservative talk-radio and loudmouths like Imus, but not to Rosie (who after all, is only speaking “truth to power”). /sarcasm

georgej on April 10, 2007 at 4:32 AM

If it makes you feel any better, iNeXuS, some of the reaction to this incident is puzzling this nappy-headed not-a-ho also. OK it’s not really puzzling me. Why is ‘nappy-headed’ an insult? Saying that I have nappy-hair is like saying that I have dark brown skin.
Black people have a lot of self-hate. This incident is a big, ugly example of it.

That other word, however, is different.

baldilocks on April 10, 2007 at 4:29 AM

Presumably because it has been used in an insulting manner in the past. Well, sadly not just in the past.

honora on April 10, 2007 at 8:22 AM

If your “White”, in any case, you would be “censored”, why bother? All you have to do is sneeze, and say “God Bless You!.

BOOM, you’re done!

Welcome to America?

But if your “African-American” you can talk about “Bitches and Whores” all day long, calling your fellow man “Niggers”, get’s you a spot on the “Grammy’s”.

If you’re “Islam-American” (what ever that means) you can conspire, degrate women, insult gays, murder, just don’t “offend them”, you racist “pig”.

If your “Gay-American”, all bets are off……… you can bend over, get it in the behind on top of an American Flag, and not cause a whimper in the MSM, while you show a raging case of “Genital Warts” on “Good Morning America”.

“Girls gone Wild” during spring break…….. “what the f*&k is that?”

Yeah, this is the country I grew up in, and as old “Eagle Scout”, I am a felon.

PinkyBigglesworth on April 10, 2007 at 1:21 AM

The whine of the endangered white male.

You would think if you lived in a country where all 43 presidents have been white males, where 7 of the 9 SCOTUS justices are white, where you are disproportionately in the Congress, in Board rooms, in entertainment, you would think whining would be the last damn thing on your agenda.

Yeah, this is the country I grew up in, where men were men and got the job done without picking at their imagined grievances all the time. Shit, what a bunch of pussies.

BTW, the fella who produces Girls Gone Wild is, shocker!!, a white male.

honora on April 10, 2007 at 8:29 AM

Apparently, Disney wants to be associated with hate. That’s why they haven’t canned Rosie.

Absolutely. Think of the opportunities: Concentration Camp Land; Genocide Village; White Power Camp Grounds. The mind boggles. Who says all the good ideas are already taken???

honora on April 10, 2007 at 8:31 AM

Nice shot by KP to make sure McCain got mentioned as being on the Imus show.

Wade on April 10, 2007 at 8:40 AM

I see freedom of speech is under attack once again.

ScottyDog on April 10, 2007 at 9:09 AM

Geez, how is nappy racist or in any way akin to the real N word? Ever hear of Napster? Guess how that name originated.

http://www.time.com/time/poy2000/pwm/fanning.html

I could pull a hundred song lyrics, hip hop groups, books and everything else with the term in it. Sorry but this is mock outrage by people looking for it.

You dont have the right to not be offended, people need to lighten up. He wasnt inciting and it clearly wasnt hate. He’s on a radio program that you know what you’re getting when you tune in.

Dash on April 10, 2007 at 9:28 AM

Just one more reason why it’d never work between us.

I feel your pain AP… it’s tough when you finally realize that you’re chasing after someone who’s just not right for you.

dalewalt on April 10, 2007 at 9:38 AM

I’ll draw the line in the sand!

ALL* of this is a very calculated effort that I do not think that others have grasped yet.

It goes all the way back to that Kramer moron, then the Grey’s Anatomy guy, FIVE recent State apologies, Imus etc…

White guilt (see Shelby Steeles book of this same title) is beginning to fade in America and this is the latest attempt to bring whitey back to his knees begging for forgiveness. The media is in on it and they have a need….they are trying to get a black man elected!
This whole scripted template will continue. What/Who is next?

OSUBuciz1 on April 10, 2007 at 9:39 AM

OSUBuciz1 on April 10, 2007 at 9:39 AM

And your conclusions are based on what exactly?

Bradky on April 10, 2007 at 9:43 AM

Honora…you may want to read Michelle’s post in this thread.

Malpaso on April 10, 2007 at 9:46 AM

At the risk of drawing people’s ire, including that of the goddess, i have to say that hillbillyjim has been commenting here for at least as long as i’ve been reading this site and has always come across as pretty agreeable. Seems like y’all are coming down a little hard on him. And Rush was right about Donovan McNabb.

forged rite on April 10, 2007 at 3:31 AM

I’m you on that, bro!

Lonevoice on April 10, 2007 at 9:49 AM

Whoops, hit enter too quickly…

Forgot to add that namecalling just lowers us to the level of the KOSsacks and DU.

JMHO

Lonevoice on April 10, 2007 at 9:50 AM

BTW just out of curiousity, Michelle and Allah if you read this, doesn’t it give you pause to be agreeing with the NYT and Al Sharpton? Not that there isnt room for agreement on certain subjects, but still.

Michael Richards I got, certainly, but this comment seems innocuous by comparison. Maybe people are taking his past history into account and I’m not, but I dont get this at all.

Dash on April 10, 2007 at 10:17 AM

Bradky:

My conclusions are based on a lifelong look at the Civil Rights Industry! We have watched them at work for many years. And now we have watched it fade to a near non existance. And it is the fear of its extinction that has started this last wave to keep it alive.

Tell me ONE place in America today where racism is accepted? If you can muster one place that it is accepted, you wont find that it has an ounce of authority in America today. No one has the power to limit the lives of ANY race in this Country.

I encourage you to read Shelby Steele’s book “White Guilt; How Blacks & Whites Together Destroyed the Promise of the Civil Rights Movement” He makes the points above that I firmly agree with.

Steele: “In the 60′s we made the worst decision in our entire history: to get ahead by manipulating white guilt.”

OR

Steele: “Anger is a means; a tool; a form of opportunism. In my entire life I have rarely seen genuine racial outrage.”

I believe that there is movement in its last throes and it is the FAKE civil rights movement of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Julian Bond, et al…

There is genuine desperation that exists to keep it alive, especially since the Left’s candidate du jour happens to be black.

I will predict that this attempt to enrage blacks will continue. It will continue in this same media/Hollywood hyped form that it has since Kramer made his infamous remarks.

Have you examined just how many of these types of situations have popped up lately?

NOT TO MENTION How many State apologies for slavery have we had in the past two years? Marylanders just said “We’re sorry”.

It will all begin to come together as we head toward the primary’s.

http://www.amazon.com/White-Guilt-Together-Destroyed-Promise/dp/0060578629

OSUBuciz1 on April 10, 2007 at 10:27 AM

Mr O hit the nail on the head: “Hate sells and MSNBC is selling hate”. Could a clearer point have been made? Imus has been selling this crap right along with Howard Stern. There’s no difference, and his charity off-sets aren’t enough to smooth it over.

thedecider on April 9, 2007 at 10:01 PM

Ditto!

Lawrence on April 10, 2007 at 10:32 AM

OSUBuciz1 on April 10, 2007 at 10:27 AM

You are mixing in quotes and a book you have read and coming up with a conclusion that the “MSM” is contriving to make sure a black man is elected.

I don’t see the proof that this is the case. It is an interesting theory but no more so (or proveable) than the theories that Halliburton somehow controls the GOP.

Bradky on April 10, 2007 at 10:38 AM

Bill C.,

Respectfully, I shouldn’t have to tell you or anyone else the harm that is done by perpetuating language that is, by design, or indifference, hateful or hurtful to an individual or a group of people.

By defending Richard Pryor, I feel that, maybe not intended, you are defending a position that is, in this political climate, not acceptable.

See my previous post. (12:07AM)

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 1:33 AM

Thanks for making your opinion clear. I honestly did not get what you were saying. Banning certain words from the common lexicon in the name of comity is certainly a valid argument. If that was what was happening here I might even agree. I don’t like the n-word and avoid racial humor just because it sounds acrimonious coming from a pale American.

What Imus is going through, with a great deal of the fault being his own, is a trial by people who are attempting to enforce a speech code on one set of Americans that doesn’t apply to another. That is what I object to. Imus’ comment was offensive because he insulted those girls. The Jackson’s and Sharpton’s of the world are making a racial issue because it serves their purposes.

I am wondering if this is the beginning of the left’s attempt to reinstate the fairness doctrine by generating a “need” for it by holding up Imus as an example.

Of course, it would apply to conservative talk-radio and loudmouths like Imus, but not to Rosie (who after all, is only speaking “truth to power”). /sarcasm

georgej on April 10, 2007 at 4:32 AM

This is why I don’t want the right to fall into the PC trap. Condemn Imus for his insulting manner. Hold up Rosie for scorn because of the meaning of what she says. But never say certain words are forbidden to some but not to others. That is a recipe for balkanization along racial and ethnic lines.

Bill C on April 10, 2007 at 10:38 AM

I think it’s wrong-headed and unconservative to be calling for this dingbat’s resignation. He didn’t break any laws that I’m aware of. He didn’t breach contract with his employers. He’s guilty of being inconsiderate, crude and tasteless.

Let the market decide. The sponsors will drop him like a hot rock if they perceive him a liability.

The more we demand firings for things like this, the thinner our skin gets. Pretty soon no one can say anything even bordering on controversial. We end up like Europe or ~gasp~ worse.

jdpaz on April 10, 2007 at 11:11 AM

Ok bradky, I respect that. My opinions are certainly not “conclusive” and aretheories. “Interesting”
nonetheless.

I guess we need to wait and see.

But I can also opine that these stories get much much more play than they deserve. And lately it all looks like its coming right out of a playbook.

OSUBuciz1 on April 10, 2007 at 11:13 AM

BTW, the fella who produces Girls Gone Wild is, shocker!!, a white male.

honora on April 10, 2007 at 8:29 AM

Isn’t he the guy going to jail?

And if he wasn’t headed that way, I’d be delighted to lead the torch-wielding mob to get him there. And I’d also like to demand of the parents of the “young men” who stand with their tongues hanging out if they are proud of the self-indulgent slobs they raised and of parents of the the young women who drink themselves into a vertical stupor to pose in front of the baying crowd and leering cameras, if they are happy to see how little self-esteem they gave those girls who think they must do such demeaning actions to be liked or loved, because they got none from their own parents.
Imus didn’t say anything radical. The mass media culture is promoting that girls are “hos.” As I said before, men his age used to find it noble and good to provide a standard of restraint and decorum and gentlemanly behavior, as a guide to the younger generations. But the 60s was all about me-me-me, social dignity be damned.

naliaka on April 10, 2007 at 11:21 AM

It’s comedy folks get it or not. Don’t like it, don’t listen it is as simple as that. Freedom of expression is the rule. While not free it is why I listen to satellite radio (Sirius soon to be Sirius-XM or some such) and have a lifetime subscription. I can hear things just the way they sound, just the way we are, beautiful and ugly and NOT the way soemone tells me how things should sound or the way we should be.

Join the Revolution!

GoingThere

GoingThere on April 10, 2007 at 11:23 AM

forged rite on April 10, 2007 at 3:31 AM

‘preciate the kind words.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2007 at 12:19 PM

Isn’t he the guy going to jail?

And if he wasn’t headed that way, I’d be delighted to lead the torch-wielding mob to get him there. And I’d also like to demand of the parents of the “young men” who stand with their tongues hanging out if they are proud of the self-indulgent slobs they raised and of parents of the the young women who drink themselves into a vertical stupor to pose in front of the baying crowd and leering cameras, if they are happy to see how little self-esteem they gave those girls who think they must do such demeaning actions to be liked or loved, because they got none from their own parents.
Imus didn’t say anything radical. The mass media culture is promoting that girls are “hos.” As I said before, men his age used to find it noble and good to provide a standard of restraint and decorum and gentlemanly behavior, as a guide to the younger generations. But the 60s was all about me-me-me, social dignity be damned.

naliaka on April 10, 2007 at 11:21 AM

I mostly agree with what you say. I do think that there has always been kids behaving badly; the difference is now everything is caught on video which encourages more of the same. Technology huh.

honora on April 10, 2007 at 1:46 PM