Bill Richardson tours captured U.S. ship on visit to North Korea

posted at 2:47 pm on April 9, 2007 by Allahpundit

He’s there with Bush’s blessing (and Bush’s NK negotiatior) so let’s not rehash the Logan Act or start in with the Hanoi Jane analogies.

The NorKs wanted them to see the boat, they figured if they want cooperation on what they’re there for they’d better see the boat, so they saw the boat.

Richardson, a Democratic presidential candidate who is in North Korea this week to collect the remains of U.S. servicemen killed in the Korean War, said the tour of the ship was “unpleasant.”

“Despite the success with the remains, this is a relationship with a lot of tension, and this shows that,” Richardson told reporters after the tour.

He called the Pueblo visit “a lot of propaganda, but we’re guests here.”

Principi, who was a Navy officer at the time of the Pueblo’s capture, said it was disconcerting to have something from that era still on display.

“It’s very unpleasant to hear the assertion of continued aggression against the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea,” Principi said.

Pak In Ho, the North Korean naval colonel who led the U.S. delegation on the tour, told the Americans that North Korean leader Kim Jong Il had personally decreed that the ship should be used for “an anti-American education.”

“This spy ship, the Pueblo, is considered a vivid, living example of such hostile policies by the U.S. against the DPRK,” Pak said through an interpreter, using the formal name of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

FYI, the Pueblo was captured by DPRK naval forces in 1968 after it allegedly strayed into NK coastal waters; according to Navy records, it was in international waters at the time. The crew was seized and taken back to the mainland for debriefing. This scenario should, perhaps, sound familiar in light of recent current events.

The Pueblo, however, didn’t surrender until it was attacked by four torpedo boats, two sub chasers, and two MiGs. The crew was starved and tortured, and the torture got worse after they took some of the sweeter anti-propaganda photos of all time. This part of the scenario should sound … unfamiliar.

The NorKs are allied with Iran on nuclear matters and in their Axis of Evil status so I wonder if this was their way of ratcheting up the west’s embarrassment over the British sailors: not only reminding us that they got away with it at America’s expense (and have the souvenir to prove it) long before Iran pulled it on the UK, but forcing the U.S. delegation to revisit the humiliation by touring the ship — which is still commissioned, by the way. Amazing that they’d consider the occasion of a diplomatic visit an opportunity to gloat, but that’s the hermit kingdom for you. Amazing too that there are no actual pics of this propaganda masterpiece on the wires right now. Maybe the photographers accompanying the delegation didn’t want to dignify such a shameful spectacle by treating it as “news.”

No, seriously, though, I wonder why there are no photos.

Exit question: If this incident rates a 3 or 4 on the disgrace-ometer, what does Steny Hoyer’s meeting with a leader of the world’s foremost Islamist organization rate? 7? 8?

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So did Gov. Richardson ask for it back?

Gwillie on April 9, 2007 at 2:52 PM

I GOT ALL DA BOMB!!

unamused on April 9, 2007 at 2:53 PM

As Americans we are a “bigger” people and have learned to put up with too much barbarism in the name of diplomacy. However, in this case it seems a pretty minor issue.

conservativecaveman on April 9, 2007 at 2:57 PM

He called the Pueblo visit “a lot of propaganda, but we’re guests here.”

Hey, at least he was honest about it.

amerpundit on April 9, 2007 at 3:04 PM

You know it used to be if we couldn’t retrieve equipment we’d destroy it. Maybe now’d be a nice time to lob a tomahawk at the Pueblo and put her out of her misery.

Iblis on April 9, 2007 at 3:06 PM

Pak In Ho

Will…not….make….joke….

amerpundit on April 9, 2007 at 3:07 PM

Does anyone else find it odd that, after all this time, some horrible torpedo-induced accident has not yet befallen the captured Pueblo?

Kid from Brooklyn on April 9, 2007 at 3:08 PM

I wonder how many of those ‘remains’ are of guys who died of old friggin’ age!

james hooker on April 9, 2007 at 3:08 PM

I, for one, don’t understand why we haven’t sunk the Pueblo a long time ago. That we’ve permitted the Norks to keep a US Navy ship as some kind of “trophy” is appalling.

A B-2 could easily drop a couple of 2,000 pounder GPS-guided bombs on it – even if we didn’t just shrug and say, “We don’t know who did it,” it’s our property, anyway.

On a related note, the reason the Norks seized the ship was at the Soviets’ behest. John Walker had given them the US Navy’s codes, but without a cipher machine the codes were useless. So the Soviets had the Norks grab the Pueblo, making it look like some unrelated incident.

It worked, too; we never suspected what’d happened, and for many years afterward the Soviets could read our secret Navy communications at will until Walker and his family of fellow-spies finally got busted.

Spurius Ligustinus on April 9, 2007 at 3:13 PM

He may be honest about it, but he was still complicit in the production of the propaganda. I am certain that he would have refused if he were asked to do something that offended his sensibilities.

Interestingly, the prisoners endured a second round of torture when Time magazine outed their photo shenanigans.

Several official photos circulated around the world of the Pueblo crew displaying the so-called “good luck sign.” It wasn’t until Time Magazine published one of the photos, with a caption explaining the real meaning of the offensive hand signal, that the prisoners’ motives were exposed, he added.

That’s when the real week of hell began.

“They beat the snot out of us. One of our guys, Chuck Law, was beaten so badly he lost his sight in one eye,” said Rigby, who stopped and struggled to remain composed before continuing. “He took a lot of beatings for the crew.”

rw on April 9, 2007 at 3:17 PM

Nice post Allah. To be honest, I’m ashamed that I’d never even heard of the Pueblo incident until last week. It was mentioned on lucianne, and I googled it and read all about it. It’s an embarrassment and a shame that the US gov’t allowed those crewmen to be held in North Korea for so long.

And I was livid when Time magazine reported that the crewmen were defying the North Koreans by giving the “Hawaiian good luck sign” during propaganda shots — while the men were still in captivity! Some things just don’t change when it comes to the msm.

It also ticks me off that North Korea still has that ship.

wytammic on April 9, 2007 at 3:20 PM

Why do public schools not teach about this incident? Maybe I wasn’t paying attention …

wytammic on April 9, 2007 at 3:22 PM

They had to cut teaching about the Pueblo out of the curriculum in order to make room for a segment on the Historical Contributions of Transexual Aborigines and also for Diversity week and Earth Day. Math will be the next thing to go.

JayHaw Phrenzie on April 9, 2007 at 3:34 PM

No, seriously, though, I wonder why there are no photos.

*speaking from ignorance warning* I seem to remember from a long-ago report on a visit to Panmunjeom (DMZ) that it takes the Nork equivalent of a Papal Dispensation to be allowed to take photos in North Korea. It may even have been that those touring the conference room on the border could only take pictures from the South Korean side of the room.

eeyore on April 9, 2007 at 3:40 PM

Those photos of the Pueblo crew are SWEET !

William Amos on April 9, 2007 at 3:53 PM

Bill’s off on another useless jaunt there.He didn’t accomplish anything the last time & he won’t this time.
Meanwhile,back at the Roundhouse,his good buddy Manny finally got nailed & Bill’s chummin’ it up with the Norks & Manny can’t get in touch with him.

Frantic Freddie on April 9, 2007 at 3:56 PM

In the future, Western soldiers may come once again to regard showing the finger as better-than-futile, if only their governments will begin showing the knife, and using it. Jimmy Carter advocated symbolism, but neither do I despise it, for it suffices to choose the right symbols. I advocate death as our symbol in war. And while the gut shot is a symbol the meaning of which is felt viscerally, I prefer the head shot, the high symbol beyond the comprehension of the one whom it engraves.

Kralizec on April 9, 2007 at 5:48 PM

I have thought for a decade now that Bill Richardson just isn’t all that smart…
I don’t wish him any ill will but, he should just go get some job in the private sector and get out of government. Who here would say that he did a stellar job as the Energy Sec. under Clinton? Energy? What energy policy did Clinton put forward? I actually got a liberal to agree with me!

Babs on April 9, 2007 at 5:56 PM

Keep in mind folks that the North Korean regime ould not exist had (a) Red China not come to their rescue in 1951 and (b) caught MacArthur with his pants down and his headquarters where he should have had his hindquarters. The only thing they have EVER managed to do since then was to capture the Pueblo in early 1968 (and only because the promised air support was withheld by the McNamara Pentagon.
Therefore, that useless ship is their symbol of invincibility and plays a key role in the deification of Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il. (See Lisa Ling on what goes on in the NK. “Deification” is the only way to describe it.)

So take a couple of airplanes and blow the old tub to smithereens. The resultant loss of the dictatorial credibility will be dangerous for a while but will work in OUR favor, no doubt about it.

Oilpatcher on April 9, 2007 at 5:58 PM

He should invite the Norks on a tour of a NEW US Navy ship….

With maybe a bit of an F-22 flyby?

Romeo13 on April 9, 2007 at 6:48 PM

Bill’s off on another useless jaunt there.He didn’t accomplish anything the last time & he won’t this time.

Read the post.

Richardson, a Democratic presidential candidate who is in North Korea this week to collect the remains of U.S. servicemen killed in the Korean War, said the tour of the ship was “unpleasant.”

“Despite the success with the remains, this is a relationship with a lot of tension, and this shows that,” Richardson told reporters after the tour.

Pablo on April 9, 2007 at 7:33 PM

Does anyone else find it odd that, after all this time, some horrible torpedo-induced accident has not yet befallen the captured Pueblo?

Kid from Brooklyn on April 9, 2007 at 3:08 PM

If Okinawa is close enough to strike Iraq then we could just claim the sinking of the Pueblo as collateral damage…right?

Pilgrim on April 9, 2007 at 7:41 PM

More than 33,000 American troops died in the Korean War from 1950-1953, and more than 8,100 are listed as missing.

And after 3,000 Civilians killed on 9/11, and appx. 3,000 honored dead in the “Global War on Terrorism”, the Democrats want to come home and hide.

Kinda puts things into perspective……

PinkyBigglesworth on April 9, 2007 at 10:08 PM

The back story on the USS Pueblo is that Navy spy John Walker gave the Soviets the ciphers for decoding US Navy coded transmissions, but they needed the encryption hardware to crack the codes completely. So the Soviets had the North Koreans capture a US spy ship, the Pueblo, to get them.

Tantor on April 9, 2007 at 11:34 PM

I admire Richardson, would love to see him get the D nomination. I would guess that the relatives of the soldiers whose remains he is apparently going to bring back have a different take on this.

honora on April 10, 2007 at 2:00 PM