Iran: 3,000 centrifuges installed

posted at 11:13 pm on April 8, 2007 by Bryan

Mahmoud and his merry band of pirates have a big announcement set for tomorrow:

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is expected to announce on Monday the installation of 3,000 centrifuges for uranium enrichment in the Natanz nuclear facility, the official Iranian news agency reported.

The announcement will be made as part of the Islamic Republic’s “National Nuclear Day” celebrations.

That’s the entirety of the Ynet story, but it’s not the whole story. Allah had the scoop on it a few days back, from an ABC report:

Iran has more than tripled its ability to produce enriched uranium in the last three months, adding some 1,000 centrifuges which are used to separate radioactive particles from the raw material…

The addition of 1,000 new centrifuges, which are not yet operational, means Iran is expanding its enrichment program at a pace much faster than U.S. intelligence experts had predicted…

Previous predictions by U.S. intelligence had cited 2015 as the earliest date Iran could develop a weapon.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has publicly predicted his country would have 3,000 centrifuges installed by this May, but few in the West gave his claim much credence, until now.

Well, perhaps a few more in the West will give credence to the claim now that the Iranian news agency is set to announced it for real.

All of this would seem to add a bit of urgency to the international community’s drive to stop Iran from getting nukes. Well, if the Chinese and the Russians weren’t also part of that international community and using their positions on the UNSC to block meaningful sanctions on Iran, anyway. Perhaps the installation of 3,000 centrifuges will earn Mahmoud a letter telling him that the international community is “really, really mad” at him and is considering issuing both a vicious rant and an important action alert against him. The very fear of such a thing might well strike him dead on the spot.

Sorry to sound so flip about all this. It’s gallows humor, trust me. Basically, the vaunted international community is letting one of the most pernicious regimes on the face of the earth obtain nuclear weapons. Everyone knows what’s going on. No one is willing to do much about it. We stand villified for stopping Saddam Hussein, and would be villified all the more if we act any time soon to stop Mahmoud. When he gets the nuke and blows up a city somewhere, we’ll be villified for not stopping him. That’s how the international community works.

I guess what I’m saying is that the international community is a giant waste of time, and will soon be a ginormous waste of life. And the international community is very likely to blame it all on us when the mushroom cloud lights the sky.


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Sorry to sound so flip about all this. It’s gallows humor, trust me. Basically, the vaunted international community is letting one of the most pernicious regimes on the face of the earth obtain nuclear weapons. Everyone knows what’s going on. No one is willing to do much about it. We stand villified for stopping Saddam Hussein, and would be villified all the more if we act any time soon to stop Mahmoud. When he gets the nuke and blows up a city somewhere, we’ll be villified for not stopping him. That’s how the international community works.

Nothing to be sorry about. You nailed it.

Question is, will we say to hell with the international community and do what needs to be done or wait until it’s too late?

Yakko77 on April 8, 2007 at 11:30 PM

I guess what I’m saying is that the international community is a giant waste of time, and will soon be a ginormous waste of life. And the international community is very likely to blame it all on us when the mushroom cloud lights the sky.

And the Dhimmies in Washington and those in the Drive By media demand we always go to this same international community before we do anything regarding our national security…

…likely because they know the international community is too weak and self-centered to do anything about it, which suits the dhimmies fine since they have no courage to do anything…except maybe in Darfur.

91Veteran on April 8, 2007 at 11:41 PM

I’ll sum this up

BULL ****

Defector01 on April 8, 2007 at 11:42 PM

This is taking the liar at face value, he said this to send us all into a tizzy. The best estimates that came out said Iran was 3 years from a bomb, let alone any major steps towards that goal.

Defector01 on April 8, 2007 at 11:45 PM

So you’re cool with taking the “best estimates” and waiting around for the Russians and Chinese to change their minds?

Bryan on April 8, 2007 at 11:48 PM

I guess what I’m saying is that the international community is a giant waste of time …

You’re not the first to say so.

We always worry about the judgment, the opinion of the international community. The question presents itself: All those people who brandish this term about with great gusto, what do they actually mean? What is the international community?

Ali-Bubba on April 8, 2007 at 11:48 PM

Soon we will have Iran the Bully issuing ultimatums and threats with their nuclear weapons. The question is when will the majority of the electorate choose strength and confrontation of the Islamofacist: Before or after nuclear disaster?

omegaram on April 8, 2007 at 11:50 PM

Remember when weapons programs were “secret”? FDR didn’t taunt Yamamoto from Los Alamos or Oak Ridge with the atomic dance troupe. I can’t understand how over the top his rhetoric has been. He’s begging us to stop him before he kills again. British sailor incident, same thing. You would think he’d save the eye poking for after the program’s success. Acting like a WWF wrestler during development only incites your enemy to stop you. Israel is not going to sit by and take it. Why should they sacrifice their soldiers when they can simply wipe Tehran off the map. They’re begging for it.

Buck Turgidson on April 8, 2007 at 11:50 PM

They are so convinced that we will take care of it eventually that they feel no need to actually do anything about it. It is time for Europe to grow up. Iran’s missiles reach Europe, not here. Maybe we should approach the EU and simply say “whatever you decide to do, we are right behind you, but it is time for you to be in the lead on this one” and then publicly tell the world that this is Europe’s problem. At some point they are going to need to do their own heavy lifting.

crosspatch on April 8, 2007 at 11:53 PM

[quote]Remember when weapons programs were “secret”? FDR didn’t taunt Yamamoto from Los Alamos or Oak Ridge with the atomic dance troupe.

Buck Turgidson on April 8, 2007 at 11:50 PM[/quote]

Yamamoto was dead by 1943 so the A bomb wasnt in the arsenal yet. But more relevant its apparently true that Rooseveldt DID warn Tokyo and Germany that we had the bomb.

There were high level attempts to warn the Japanese to quite the war or we would drop it. The Japanese already being pounded by our planes didnt think one more bomb would make all that much a difference.

That the the Japanese were rushing to complete their own A bomb. THey had plans to build it and sneak it into San Fransico harbor and detonate it in a suicide attack.

So the moral of the story ? We are condemed to repeat the mistakes of the past if we dont learn from them. The dimwits of the anti war want Iran to have the bomb in the mistaken belief that it will ensure peace because the US will be afraid to attack a nuclear power.

The danger isnt a counter strike by Iran. Its Iran sending a suicide bomb to a US city and killing millions and pretending that it had nothing to do with it.

William Amos on April 8, 2007 at 11:59 PM

Maybe we should approach the EU and simply say “whatever you decide to do, we are right behind you, but it is time for you to be in the lead on this one” and then publicly tell the world that this is Europe’s problem.
crosspatch on April 8, 2007 at 11:53 PM

I think this is the only thing that kept the Euro-weenies at the table in previous talks with the Iranians…otherwise, I doubt they would have bothered.

91Veteran on April 9, 2007 at 12:11 AM

I will sum it up………….. Iran Boom!

Boom!

PinkyBigglesworth on April 9, 2007 at 12:25 AM

Yamamoto was dead by 1943 so the A bomb wasnt in the arsenal yet.
William Amos on April 8, 2007 at 11:59 PM

Yeah, cool the way we used intel to blow his plane out of the sky. What flight is Dinnerjacket taking to his next hate America fest?

Buck Turgidson on April 9, 2007 at 12:28 AM

First of all, having 3000 centrifuges installed is one thing, hooking up the feed tubes, testing, putting them under vacuum and running hex through them 24/7 is quite another.

As an example, I installed a new crate engine in my 1968 Camaro a few months ago. That was easy. The hard part was hooking everything up and getting the thing running, the timing and carb adjusted, etc.

Iran has just installed the engine – they have a ways to go before they get it running. Is it a concern? Yes. But the press reporting on this is hopeless ignorant because the reporters don’t have the most basic understanding of the technology. That’s what happens when liberal arts graduates write on science and engineering topics.

For a technical discussion of this development, head on over the ArmsControlWonk

NPP on April 9, 2007 at 12:30 AM

“otherwise, I doubt they would have bothered”

There is one more step that needs to happen and that is to allow the European’s current approach to fail. We keep telling them that it will fail and often we intervene before it has a chance to fail. This time we are probably best served by allowing it to run its course and fail utterly so they finally understand what we are talking about. We should support them in their efforts, not sabotage them in any way, but allow their process to be exposed in their own minds for exactly what it is.

That accomplishes two things. First it takes away the blame from us. Notice that it was a British crew that the Iranians kidnapped in Iraqi waters, not a US crew. Iran has sent a message to the Europeans that Iran is toying with them. The second thing it does is builds an appreciation for us. By allowing to come to the conclusion that we were right on their own, as long as we don’t rub their noses in it, they will have a much greater respect for us going forward.

crosspatch on April 9, 2007 at 12:31 AM

“Iran has just installed the engine – they have a ways to go before they get it running.”

And don’t forget that they recently lost one of their top nuclear guys too.

crosspatch on April 9, 2007 at 12:42 AM

And that Mushroom cloud might be over one of our cities.

zerodamage on April 9, 2007 at 12:43 AM

Somebody else will get nuked first.

I can see the Palestinians dancing in the streets already, like they did when 3,000 people were murdered at 9/11.

Then maybe, just maybe, Iran (don’t forget Pakistan) will get nuked in response.

I can also hear the cries for understanding and tolerance already too.

A strong American leader would see to it that Islamists could never nuke anybody ever again.

A strong American leader would do that. This will probably happen with the next administration.

Mojave Mark on April 9, 2007 at 1:05 AM

Not to worry – Leonides is on the case.

Er… oops, I forgot. The king has adopted a new tone and refuses to question Theron’s patriotism.

Halley on April 9, 2007 at 1:13 AM

The Iranians can’t nuke Israel without killing a bunch of Palestinians and contaminating neighboring Arab countries or the Med sea. The flight path would probably go over Jordan and there is almost no way to get from Iran to Israel without going over Iraq so there is going to be plenty of warning.

I am not sure that Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, or even Syria for that matter, want a dose of fallout from Iranian nukes. Iran would be burning a lot of bridges with a lot of people if they actually nuked Israel.

crosspatch on April 9, 2007 at 1:19 AM

The Iranians can’t nuke Israel without killing a bunch of Palestinians and contaminating neighboring Arab countries or the Med sea. The flight path would probably go over Jordan and there is almost no way to get from Iran to Israel without going over Iraq so there is going to be plenty of warning.

I am not sure that Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, or even Syria for that matter, want a dose of fallout from Iranian nukes. Iran would be burning a lot of bridges with a lot of people if they actually nuked Israel.

crosspatch on April 9, 2007 at 1:19 AM

To Iran, it’s all collateral damage. The reality is that Iran doesn’t really like the Palestinians (or any of its Arab neighbors period). They have just taken up the cause as a means to an end.

Rick on April 9, 2007 at 1:31 AM

To a rational state yes, but these guys believe in bringing Armageddon so killing off a few martyrs on the way to the end of the world will bring that iman out of that well faster.

djohn669 on April 9, 2007 at 1:35 AM

It wasn’t really my point as to what Iran would think about it so much as what Israel’s neighbors would think about it. Iran could never erase Israel even if they were successful and every single missile got through. Yes, they would kill a lot of people but they would not destroy the state of Israel. So at that point they are left with Israel still existing, and a bunch of Arabs very angry with them. There really isn’t an advantage to Iran having a nuclear weapon because they would be unable to use it. Even worse, they would have to worry about securing the darned things.

crosspatch on April 9, 2007 at 1:47 AM

I love it….

Not to worry – Leonides is on the case.

Halley on April 9, 2007 at 1:13 AM

Somebody else will get nuked first.

Mojave Mark on April 9, 2007 at 1:05 AM

BOOM!

PinkyBigglesworth on April 9, 2007 at 3:36 AM

What’s sad is that I met two very nice Iranian folks tonight who enjoyed Easter dinner with us, and this kind of crap really puts a bad name to their homeland. At least for me it’s nice to see a clear distinction between the people of the region and the regimes who hold them hostage.

Makes me sad to think of how many people like these nice folks would have to die in a retaliation for what could be avoided with a little international cooperation (you know, WITH us).

askheaves on April 9, 2007 at 3:49 AM

I see the end of Life as we know it coming soon… Worst case, Israel keeps it promise to not let Iran get a nuke… After which missiles fly in both direction with us in the middle we lose a ship or two. Israel get hit with a WMD and then its all hell and blood after that..
Terror strike at home…Full scale war in all of the mid east. Far left moonbats blame us for it all and call for full retreat With the MSM giving full support to the enemy.

The good thing is my worst case stuff never happens :)

Gwillie on April 9, 2007 at 4:22 AM

“What’s sad is that I met two very nice Iranian folks tonight who enjoyed Easter dinner with us, and this kind of crap really puts a bad name to their homeland.”

I lived next door to an Iranian family for many years. The nicest people you would ever want to meet. Just wonderful folks. The old man came to this country and bought a gas station, put his kids through college and now they have executive level jobs in US companies.

But in the end, no government serves but at the pleasure of the people. The people have the power to change it. They simply haven’t had enough of it yet. Once the people lose their fear of the government, it will change. History tells us this too many times.

crosspatch on April 9, 2007 at 4:32 AM

The people of these useless Muslim countries will never change their government’s ways. It has nothing to do with fear, and everything to do with what they are accustomed to and what is considered “normal” for them. The practicioners of the Muslim religion are so used to being told what to do by their religious leaders and not questioning it, that they will continue to do so for ages to come. That is the whole premise behind this current war on terror which is really a euphamism for the war against Islam. For centuries these people have known nothing but death and mayhem, and that’s not going to change any time soon. You can’t expect backwards cultures and primitive people to “evolve” in the short time we need them to. Just because “individuals” from these regions seem “nice” doesn’t mean that the part of the collective society they form can be. It’s impossible. It’s trying to change a zebra’s stripes. The sooner the rest of the world realizes this, the sooner we can do what needs to be done to solve the problem. Isolate the Muslim countries from the rest of the world for the safety of the rest of the world.

rayvet on April 9, 2007 at 6:30 AM

If we don’t get some true conservative elected officials in high office with the gonads to put an end to Iran permanently, we will have holy hell to pay. The Dems even want to do away with the term “war on terror” in the hope that if they ignore it, it will go away. How pathetic. Iran and its people need to finally be taught a lesson and I’m afraid that, again, we need to be the teacher.

lynnv on April 9, 2007 at 8:06 AM

And the international community is very likely to blame it all on us when the mushroom cloud lights the sky.

Who cares. There won’t be enough of them left to point their fingers at us. Let them have their precious “peace at any price.”

Let them see where the real evil lies.

Good Lt on April 9, 2007 at 8:12 AM

It’s all a lie. The evil Bush adinistration most certainly encouraged their friends in the MSM (lol) to report this story as an attempt to justify preemptive military action against that friendly islamic government.
We need the truth. I suggest the formation of the O’Donnell/Behar Tonkin Commission to go on a fact finding mission to clear things up. Once Rosie shows me photos and opines on “The Spew”; I, as well as the rest of America will know what’s really going on in the middle east.
Oops! I forgot that they don’t like swine.

jarhead05 on April 9, 2007 at 8:31 AM

This is taking the liar at face value, he said this to send us all into a tizzy. The best estimates that came out said Iran was 3 years from a bomb, let alone any major steps towards that goal.

Defector01 on April 8, 2007 at 11:45 PM

Do we have any other choice but to take this madman at this word? What if our intel isn’t as good as it was on the WMDs.

Do we have three years? Two and a half years?

What is the difference between allowing the deaths of the citizens of Tel Aviv, as apposed to the citizens of Washington DC, London, Paris, Madrid, or Baghdad?

I’d rather take the madman at his word, and be wrong… than to ignore him and be wrong.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on April 9, 2007 at 9:10 AM

Israel, what are you waiting for? Your strike in Iraq over 20 years ago worked wonders; why don’t you do the same to Iran? Your future clearly depends on it.

flutejpl on April 9, 2007 at 9:20 AM

Israel, what are you waiting for? Your strike in Iraq over 20 years ago worked wonders; why don’t you do the same to Iran? Your future clearly depends on it.

flutejpl on April 9, 2007 at 9:20 AM

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but this task should not rest on Israel’s shoulders alone. Not to mention that a strategic bombing run on iran’s known nuke sites would be MUCH more logistically difficult and challenging than the run on saddam’s nuke plant.

More to the point, right now iran WANTS us to attack it. Doing so works in their favor. That’s exactly why we shouldn’t do it. Their regime is very very weak. On the edge of collapse, actually. Specific sanctions could and would be very effective. The mullahs in iran run a house of very rickety cards. We need to help that stack fall from within.

It’s both the smartest and most humane way to deal with this threat.

techno_barbarian on April 9, 2007 at 9:48 AM

The problem is techno is the EU wouldn’t even give economics sanction for the UK, they sure in hell won’t do it for the USA.
I think a nice US blockade of there ports might do it tho.

djohn669 on April 9, 2007 at 10:03 AM

I wouldn’t count on the Chinese stalling for much longer. I spent some time in China a little while back, and I can tell you that the money they can make from the Olympics outweighs their loyalty to Iran.

amerpundit on April 9, 2007 at 10:07 AM

Iranian state television reported Monday that an Iranian Revolutionary Guard general who is banned from traveling abroad under the sanctions has visited Russia without any difficulty.

amerpundit on April 9, 2007 at 10:12 AM

Because Isreal was condemned as an aggressor when they attacked last time. Because the UN will levy real sanctions on them (as opposed to the bs ones they put on the bad guys. Because the leaders in Isreal are weary and tired of fighting for survival when the entire world is arrayed against them.

Wyrd on April 9, 2007 at 10:19 AM

Justs as people have images, so do countries.

Iran is prooving itself to be a Master manipulator of international image.

Lets face it, they took the Brits off a UN mission, and the world acted SCARED of a confrontation with them… In the Arab world/middle east you only are perceived as having power if you are willing to use it.

I mean… Crap… the world economy is being held hostage by a bunch of people with a 14th century outlook, and we STILL won’t drill in ANWAR? or off the coasts of California or Florida?

Romeo13 on April 9, 2007 at 10:46 AM

The Iranian govt. really does want to start the end of the world so they can bring in the 12th Mahdi. Then Iran will be the big hero when the caliphate is established worldwide. I’m-a-dinner-jacket really believes this and he’s not crazy. He will light up a nuke as soon as he’s able, and he and his ilk couldn’t care less about killing fellow Muslims or fallout in the region.

Islam is fake and the Koran is fiction but I’m-a-dinner-jacket is a true believer so he’ll stop at nothing to make it happen. When Asia and North Africa are burning and the magic Mahdi doesn’t come, I wonder what that will do to the faith of the billion who tragically put their hope in Mohammad and his ramblings. Probably while everything is still smoldering they’ll just blame America and not their own pathetic worldview.

Mojave Mark on April 9, 2007 at 11:10 AM

As Bob Spencer would put it, “1938 Alert.” History will repeat itself all over, but this time we’re fighting an enemy that doesn’t care at all about self-preservation. We’ll let 7 million Jews get nuked also, and probably some of our own cities.

PRCalDude on April 9, 2007 at 11:45 AM

rayvet on April 9, 2007 at 6:30 AM

Yep, it’s an “inshallah” fatalism. “If Allah wills it” this or that problem will get better. Or it’s Israel’s fault.

PRCalDude on April 9, 2007 at 11:47 AM

There really isn’t an advantage to Iran having a nuclear weapon because they would be unable to use it. Even worse, they would have to worry about securing the darned things.

crosspatch on April 9, 2007 at 1:47 AM

You are using rational thought in discussing this – Iran doesn’t use rational thought. It’s a completely different mindset. What is truly scary, is if some mullah over there decides to tell all that it is Allah’s will that Israel be nuked, and that those Muslims that suffer along with the destruction will be taken care of in paradise (seen as martyrs, etc.) – that’s all it takes, and before you know it, mushroom clouds all over the Middle East.

Rick on April 9, 2007 at 11:55 AM

I think we should GIVE them nukes….

Tim Burton on April 9, 2007 at 12:31 PM

Iran announces 3,000 centrifuges installed?

Just another Karl Rove trick.

petefrt on April 9, 2007 at 12:48 PM

This is taking the liar at face value, he said this to send us all into a tizzy. The best estimates that came out said Iran was 3 years from a bomb, let alone any major steps towards that goal.

Defector01 on April 8, 2007 at 11:45 PM

I remember people saying this like that about North Korea just before they tested a nuke. That test may have been a failure as it appears to have been a fizzle, yet that test took place years before all estimates said any test was possible.

RedinBlueCounty on April 9, 2007 at 1:17 PM

Opps, That should read “saying things like that” and not “saying this like that”. Man, I wish this site had a preview feature!

RedinBlueCounty on April 9, 2007 at 1:20 PM

It would appear that the big chiefs in Iran are betting the west will toss the same dreaded dialog bomb at them the west threw at No. Korea and that next year emissaries sent by Kimmie will proudly witness an Iranian underground nuclear detonation.

Speakup on April 9, 2007 at 1:28 PM

here really isn’t an advantage to Iran having a nuclear weapon because they would be unable to use it. Even worse, they would have to worry about securing the darned things.

crosspatch on April 9, 2007 at 1:47 AM

What makes you think Iran would be worried about securing nukes?
All of your assumptions are based on the premise that Iran wants to use nukes as a defensive deterrence yet all available information suggests just the opposite. They have repeatedly stated their intention of destroying Israel and western civilizations like here in America. I have no doubt that Iran would be willing to use nukes in a first strike and would give them to other like-minded terrorist organizations around the world.

RedinBlueCounty on April 9, 2007 at 1:29 PM

So Iran is enriching “fuel” for nuclear reactors they don’t have, to power generators they haven’t got, connected to transmission lines they haven’t strung… sure…

DANEgerus on April 9, 2007 at 5:03 PM