Just stating the facts:

I speak with my janitor everyday, he is from El Salvador… he is a mere resident here (free to come and go).

He is even angry with his fellow countrymen, that come here to the United States - often times illegally (using mild language here) and then obtain a Driver’s License.

He states that he knows many that have never been behind the wheel - yet, they practice for a day or so and then get a Driver’s License.

He says that in his country - you are likely to only drive if you are in the bigger cities and then you don’t drive so much - money, gas, & resources are scarce, not in abundance.

He states that they have no practice on Highways - accelerating to speeds in excess of, say, 60 MPH.

They have no true understanding of the laws and how they are properly executed by a responsible driver.

He states that, worse, these Newbies party often and then drive.

These are his words.

ar_basin on April 6, 2007 at 11:35 AM

Hmmm…. Speakup that does raise an interesting question…

I know in the past the courts have NOT allowed lawsuits to go forward for not enforcing Law… but this is not simply a law enforcment issue, its a Political Policy. Seems that the Policy makers could, and should, be held accountable, as accesories to murder, in a Civil Case. In the very least, it seems they can be charged under Obstruction of Justice!!

They are directly responsible for this “gentleman” still being in this country, when he should not be.

Romeo13 on April 6, 2007 at 11:48 AM

Geraldo, aka Jerry Rivers, King of the Posers, changed his name for a hispanic flair to get hired in the first place. There is ZERO logic behind his arguement that the illegal status has nothing to do with the case.

doginblack on April 6, 2007 at 11:59 AM

I agree with Geraldo, he covered it exactly. Bill came off again unconcerned about the 3 drunk driving deaths caused by Canadians and by one Briton that week and yes they were illegal.

Nearly 5% of Canadas population live transient in the US the State department estimates nearly 667,000 are here illegally as compared to about 6 million Mexicans. If Canada had as many people as Mexico there would be nearly 4 million illegal Canadians living here.

Not a peep from Bill.

EricPWJohnson on April 6, 2007 at 12:06 PM

I agree with Geraldo, he covered it exactly. Bill came off again unconcerned about the 3 drunk driving deaths caused by Canadians and by one Briton that week and yes they were illegal.

Nearly 5% of Canadas population live transient in the US the State department estimates nearly 667,000 are here illegally as compared to about 6 million Mexicans. If Canada had as many people as Mexico there would be nearly 4 million illegal Canadians living here.

Not a peep from Bill.

EricPWJohnson on April 6, 2007 at 12:06 PM

Eric if you think that there are only 6 million Illegal Aliens here from Mexico you are naive.

We have that many alone in California with estimates higher than that.

Geraldo has no argument. Besides illegals being felons for just crossing the border, obtaining illegal identity theft documents, and illegally using our hospitals as their own doctors offices, I do not know where to begin with you.

What planet have you been living on?

Estimates are that there are over 50 million illegals now in the USA with over another million crossing the Mexican Border each year.

By any definition, that is called an Invasion.

ScottyDog on April 6, 2007 at 12:21 PM

EricPWJohnson on April 6, 2007 at 12:06 PM

Bill also did not talk about the immigration status of the 9/11 hijackers.

Hmmm… he must have something against Hispanics.

CliffHanger on April 6, 2007 at 12:25 PM

EnochCain on April 6, 2007 at 12:00 PM

good. i was hoping that’s what you meant.

jummy on April 6, 2007 at 12:27 PM

Geraldo Rivera back in March 2002 declared himself to be a

“Palestinianist”

Two weeks ago he took the side of the Flying Imans saying basically that everyone else as a bunch of paranoid, racist jerks.

Hilts on April 6, 2007 at 1:04 PM

From a James Lileks March 2002 bleat about Rivera

So Geraldo is in Israel, interviewing a man whose teenaged daughter had recently been blown to bits by a madman heading to heaven for his seventy-two dark-eyed seedless Sun-Maids. The father showed Geraldo a picture of his daughter and her friend - they were inseparable, he said. They had spent the morning redecorating a room, then headed into town for some shopping. Where they were blown up. Ripped to bleeding chunks for the greater glory of Allah and Arafat. The father had a stoic grieving dignity that would no doubt provide a certain cartoonist with weeks of hilarious material. Geraldo stumbled around, unable to find the words, and finally launched gracelessly into his new script: “I am a Zionist,” he said, “but I want to be a Palestinianist. I have seen so much suffering on the other side. Just the other day I witnessed a man with his newborn baby, swaddled, going home from the hospital, and they had to wait behind a checkpoint - ”

I watched the father’s face carefully; not a flicker of emotion. No doubt he found the comparison obscene - his daughter had been killed, blown apart, and the fellow in Geraldo’s example had moral equivalence because his arrival home with his child was delayed by a few hours. I fully expected the father to ram the heel of his hand into Geraldo’s trachea and drive his hyoid bone clean through the back of the kapok-stuffed gourd Geraldo calls a head. But the father didn’t move a muscle.

Hilts on April 6, 2007 at 1:12 PM

We lure lots of people to our country because it’s opportunistic and fair. Our laws make it that way. We obey our laws and enforce them or the system won’t work. Illegal immigration is a breakdown of the system. I personally know illegal aliens who were arrested for a crime and told on the “honor system” to show up at a location to be deported. Please! I think it’s hard to get statistics on illegal alien crimes because of people like Geraldo who keep law enforcers from asking their citizen status. Even when they have fake IDs and fake SSNs. I think when someone can’t speak english they should be asked if they are legal.
Sad thing is even if that Ramos fella was deported he’d boomerang right back. $2,000 and coyotes will smuggle you back! I can’t say that illegal aliens are the main source of our crime but it’s definetly a big increase in our crime. You look in our local small town papers and 80 percent of the arrested people in the police reports are Hispanic. And they aren’t the majority race in the town. Now I can’t say if they are legal or not because nobody will tell us!

Drtuddle on April 6, 2007 at 1:28 PM

If the opportunity to pay a coyote your life savings to sneak into a foreign country and do backbreaking work for less pay than the locals make, and live in cramped quarters because the cost of living is higher than your home country is a “lure”, it seems to me that’s not our fault. It’s the fault of the home countries that make this miserable existence in the shadows look good by comparison to conditions at home.
Geraldo takes a position that apparently makes him feel superior to us “racists”. But if he’s so pro-Hispanic, couldn’t he use his celebrity more effectively by loudly deploring the corruption, lawlessness and maltreatment of hispanic peoples by their governments? Maybe he could lead a revolution to reform those countries, not one to force us to become more like them.
That would be kind of hard, though. Never mind.

NellE on April 6, 2007 at 1:42 PM

NellE,

No, What Geraldo was taking issue was the making all illegal immigrants and their cousins to be murdering drunk drivers

That was his point

EricPWJohnson on April 6, 2007 at 1:50 PM

Eric, if that was Geraldo’s point, then he needs to learn to stay on topic. O’Reilly never said that, nor does anyone else. Geraldo’s problem is the chip he deliberately carries on his shoulder just hoping someone will try to knock it off.

Connie on April 6, 2007 at 2:10 PM

Geraldo vs. O’Reilly. “Whoever loses, we win.”

dorkafork on April 6, 2007 at 2:19 PM

Geraldo is right. The issue is about drunk driving. However, it turns out that the person in question is an illegal immigrant. If Ramos recieved lenient sentence for DUI earlier, it raises the question about the laws against DUI. If the issue is solely based on illegal immigration, the real cause is lost. He was only partial wrong when he tried to tie it to race because a valid argument can be made based on that premise, but it obscures the real cause.

The most troubling part is that a weak DUI law was exploited by an illegal immigrant who can get away with it. To solve the problem, deal with the DUI law first.

Ouabam on April 6, 2007 at 2:30 PM

Nonetheless, the fact is that these girls were killed by a drunken driver–they would be no less dead if the driver were a DAR member. It’s sheer demagoguery on Bill O’s part.

That’s patent nonsense. Did you read the article? He had two prior alcohol-related convictions, either of which could have been used to have him deported if the local government had simply cared enough to inquire into his status. If he wasn’t here — which he shouldn’t have been, under the law — the girls almost certainly would still be alive. It’s an elementary case of but-for causation.

If the state paroles some lunatic and he goes out and kills someone, the state isn’t fair game for criticism? That’s essentially what we’re dealing with here.

Allahpundit on April 6, 2007 at 2:40 PM

If the state paroles some lunatic and he goes out and kills someone, the state isn’t fair game for criticism? That’s essentially what we’re dealing with here.

Allahpundit on April 6, 2007 at 2:40 PM

Do you think the parents have justification for a suit on that basis, or is it not quite that clear?

Esthier on April 6, 2007 at 2:43 PM

hehe I almost fell off my couch when this was on last night…

This might be the first time Papa Bear actually loses a yelling match…I think Geraldo out-shouted Bill, but of course, Bill was right on. Geraldo lost hs cred when he claimed it was about singling out Latinos…nevermind illegal ones…

JetBoy on April 6, 2007 at 2:48 PM

When it rains it pours.

tommylotto on April 6, 2007 at 1:55 AM

Good catch…..though I made that deduction the minute I heard his name.

I must say that I’m shocked as hell that the LA Times printed it.

Here’s another case that occured in my hometown, just for the record.

The Ugly American on April 6, 2007 at 3:00 PM

That’s patent nonsense. Did you read the article? He had two prior alcohol-related convictions, either of which could have been used to have him deported if the local government had simply cared enough to inquire into his status. If he wasn’t here — which he shouldn’t have been, under the law — the girls almost certainly would still be alive. It’s an elementary case of but-for causation.

If the state paroles some lunatic and he goes out and kills someone, the state isn’t fair game for criticism? That’s essentially what we’re dealing with here.

Allahpundit on April 6, 2007 at 2:40 PM

I read the article and I saw the program.

Bill O was frothing at the mouth about the angle of this DUI driver being an illegal, the fact of the local gov’t falling down on the job was only briefly mentioned. The whole incident was a jumping off point for Bill to start screaming about illegals.

I sincerely doubt that had this been an incident of someone other than an illegal driving drunk after a couple of previous arrests and killing a couple of people that it would have made it onto Bill’s program. Sadly, this happens all the time–why is it only a “Factor” issue when it involves illegals?

honora on April 6, 2007 at 3:12 PM

Whichever side you are on, this has now spurred another Congressional attempt at identification of illegals at court appearances…

BelchSpeak on April 6, 2007 at 3:48 PM

Connie,

I agree that Geraldo does have baggage and was not the best person to counter Bill, but he was essentially correct.

Look in the middle east, even though I’m here by the invite of the government if someone even crashes into my parked car I’m at fault, I’m not supposed to be here. Hey try France, essentially the same rules.

Look, I couldn’t make it to debate Bill, so Geraldo stepped in for me :)

Allah,

When we start putting these people (everyone from the mayors drunk daughter in Houston to the little ole lady who had too much schnapps) in jail for drunk driving these episodes will stop.

Bill missed a golden opportunity to get a stronger enforcement message out and went for the borderphiles hot button de juer manufactured scandal of the month club, last month it was all the murders illegals committ, this month its the drunk driving, next month it will be the medicare fraud ad nauseum.

EricPWJohnson on April 6, 2007 at 4:21 PM

We saw this last night and were both cheering O’Reilly on.

I am sick of apologists like Geraldo; it’s everyone’s fault but the illegal aliens. The point is, if the law was applied to them, like it is to the rest of us, this guy would have been in prison or deported, and two young girls would be alive. If our borders were secure, people we deport wouldn’t be able to come back here and become repeat offenders.

It doesn’t matter that there are other people who drive drunk; they should have the book thrown at them too.

Geraldo’s “we entice them” is shameless; I didn’t and neither did the parents of those murdered girls. If someone ‘entices’ you to rob a bank, and you do, who is at fault? I want a better life too but I don’t think violating another country and assuming a stolen identity is a good alternative.

My mom lives in San Antonio and I regularly hear stories of ‘halfway houses’ for illegals that the police won’t investigate even when reported and growing crime; in an eerily similar case, a guy a block away from her who had bragged to neighbours about getting out of DUI charges because “no habla engles” (in reality he spoke great English), finally met a judge who didn’t buy it and fined him. FINED HIM! After being stopped several times for driving drunk!

There’s no excuse for this; our talk about amnesty is unfair to legal immigrants (the green card process time a friend tells me, is about 6 or 7 years), unjust to the rest of us (who don’t get a 10 year reprieve to catch up on our tax bill), and damaging to our environment, schools and social programmes. A friend who is an ESL teacher told me recently how every year many of her students aren’t even literate in their native tongue, and how unfulfilling and frustrating her job is as a result.

I’m glad someone is finally being honest; I’m tired of the characterisation that EVERY illegal alien is lily-white and we are all bad because it’s our fault that their countries are corrupt, we lure them here, and we’re racist and selfish; I’m worn out being the bad guy responsible for someone else’s lawbreaking. I’m sick of the double standard, sick of it.

This year my husband and I will have to spend money paying an accountant to do our taxes again; last year our return was about 15 pages. Bellevue’s city council voted unanimously (even the Republicans) to raise our property taxes every year without a vote, even as the property values here skyrocket, filling the coffers, and Washington state is considering a state income tax. I am tired of working, saving, paying for everyone but my husband and I; we’re ‘lucky’ because we’re successful (never mind the hard work and that we’re not rolling in it), and we’re forced to ’share’. No one has the right to tell me I have to adopt tens of millions of illegal aliens and their families when they won’t clean up the cr@p (corruption) in their own backyard (country), and instead come to mine.

linlithgow on April 6, 2007 at 5:01 PM

Nonetheless, the fact is that these girls were killed by a drunken driver–they would be no less dead if the driver were a DAR member. It’s sheer demagoguery on Bill O’s part.

Sure, fine. They’d still be dead. But the drunk illegal alien who hit my mother and daughter last month (and I know two other people who have been hit since Katrina by illegal aliens who were DUI, because since Katrina, New Orleans is overrun with them) didn’t have a license, insurance, or resources. So when your community gets a big influx of illegals, you better pay up for full coverage or at least uninsured motorist. Because there was no insurance company and the illegal had no resources to pay for my daughter’s surgery and the months of PT that followed.

It’s not just the fact that he was here illegally and the accident need never have happened had he stayed in his own country. He didn’t just break that law. He broke the law about having a license and car insurance. He broke the law getting whatever work he got to buy the car. His employer broke the law. It’s all that, PLUS it’s that I had to pay $5050 to fulfill my health insurance deductible to cover my daughter’s surgery and care, my mother’s car insurance had to pay for her car repairs, and our taxpayer money had to pay for his health care, his night in jail, and his driver safety class, which was all the penalty the judge gave him.

As for the girls who would still be dead, there doubtless was no insurance or settlement to pay for their funerals, no money for gestures like a scholarship fund in their names or anything that might comfort the grieving families. Those things don’t replace the person, but they do at least offer a little solace.

Laura on April 6, 2007 at 5:43 PM

I beg to differ on the percentage of drunk driving illegal aliens…I just read a report that they do commit more of these offenses. Apparently the one who killed the director didn’t even have a license . Their culture also “lures” them to drive drunk, they can’t read english so how do they read road signs, pray tell? The story also said loneliness, leaving family at home also contributes to the drunken driving. To my mind the reality of no punishment for their actions is the biggest “lure” As for Deporting them…well, Thanks to Jorge Bush that gets them to do the touchback that Flake and Guterreiz are pushing in their amnesty…They touch mexcian soil and come on back after having committted crimes. The single person responsible for this is George Bush who has allowed this anarchy to continue unabated for 5 years of his
El presidency. He should be impeached. TOM TANCREDO in 08

Mellen on April 6, 2007 at 5:44 PM

Wow, lots of people here affected by drunk driving tragedies, I’m really sorry and hope your families find comfort and peace.

linlithgow on April 6, 2007 at 5:50 PM

Cage match. Loser leaves TV.

Jim Treacher on April 6, 2007 at 5:59 PM

I may disagree with Geraldo often, but he’s worth a listen and I’m glad he’s on FNC.

I respect and enjoy Geraldo because I think he speaks always for message rather than for effect, in good faith and with intellectual honesty… as does Kirsten Powers… unlike so many of the talking heads (like Alan Colmes, for example) from the left.

Watching Bill and Geraldo duke it out gives me the warm fuzzies.

petefrt on April 6, 2007 at 7:07 PM

Also, lawyers…

Isn’t the double standard for illegal aliens (aren’t held to same account for taxes, etc), a violation of the equal protection clause of the Constitution? How are people here being treated equally or equally held to account? They break laws and people aren’t even allowed to REPORT them.

linlithgow on April 6, 2007 at 7:43 PM

YEA, GO HAVE YOUR ‘HA HA’ COMICS WHILE ILLEGALS EAT YOUR GUTS AS YOU SLEEP!!!!1

jummy on April 6, 2007 at 9:10 PM

Does Bill think he’s Judge Dredd now?

I am the Law!

Opinionnation on April 6, 2007 at 10:02 PM

Yes, this country needs immigrants,

When I was a kid, me and my friends all worked at McDonalds and the local drug store chains. Now, I see Mexican (illegal?) immigrants filling most of those types of positions.

Are we not having enough kids, or are we spoiling the kids and they don’t bother to get jobs?

gmoonster on April 6, 2007 at 10:21 PM

Geraldo won this one. But both made good points.

Or is this a preview of a new direction
the show is going to take ….. I can scream loader
than you so I win . Is that it for the no spin Guru.

Naaaa ! ! Both are passionate and good for them and us.

Texyank on April 6, 2007 at 10:58 PM

I have talked to people whose kids cannot find these jobs due to them already being filled by illegals…so there is more to the story.

Mellen on April 6, 2007 at 11:10 PM

Geraldo won this one. But both made good points.
Texyank on April 6, 2007 at 10:58 PM

That’s funny, I thought Geraldo lost it. Just cause he was loud, cut Bill off, smeared all Americans as being racists, and wouldn’t stick to the subject by trying to move the goal posts doesn’t mean he “won” anything.

naliaka on April 6, 2007 at 11:16 PM

Illegals are getting these perks because George Bush is really El Presidente of Mexico…although occasionally he changes hats and is Ambassador for Iraq……When asked about your question he was heard to remark…
The US? where is that?

Mellen on April 6, 2007 at 11:13 PM

Last time I checked, the State Legislatures were handing out these perks, specifically, legislatures that are Democratic Party controlled. President Bush has quite a bit to answer for on leadership on this issue, but he is not responsible for that AND does everyone mean to say not a SINGLE illegal came into the US during the previous administrations? Say, the nineties? Who was president then? Hmm? If American born kids of illegals are marching out of their high school classes, then they all predate Bush, isn’t that right? As usual, Bush gets the blame for ALL the prior years and years of neglect. Bush was not the one who declared New York City a sanctuary city nor the other cities that piously claim that title. Democrat Party is the one to look at for these actions.
AS far as I can determine, Teddy Kennedy bears quite a bit of responsibility for changing US immigration code years ago that laid the foundation for many of today’s troubles.

naliaka on April 6, 2007 at 11:31 PM

Well, well, well, don’t they come out of the wood work?

Simply amazed at some of the responses here, but more to the point, Geraldo is a member of “La Raza”, and to his last breath will not betray “The Race”…. it clouds his view on issues, when Bill O. brings up “Illegals”, Geraldo immediately jumps to the “La Raza” Talking Points……..

There is a “Bigger Picture”……..

First, the laws of this country must be enforced!

Second, deport all and every illegal alien, convicted of a crime, after they serve their time!

Third, Geraldo, et al, if you don’t like it here, take a vacation…….

Finally, where the He@l have you all been for the past number of years…..??? twenty years????“>Post Script…

PinkyBigglesworth on April 7, 2007 at 1:37 AM

Sadly, this happens all the time–why is it only a “Factor” issue when it involves illegals?

It’s on the Factor for 2 reasons.
1. Because illegal immigration is a very hot issue and a majority of Americans are not satisfied with what the government is doing about it.
2. Because this specific incident could have been avoided entirely if this drunken lump of crap had been deported for entering this country illegally in the first place.

Mock O’Reilly all you want, but Gerarado was doing his best to skirt the issue. He was doing the old Stalinist ‘one death’s a tragedy, a millions a statistic’ two step. People die because of drunk drivers every day; whoop ti do. What’s the big deal? I hate drunks. We all hate drunks. Don’t be racial. Well, the problem is, is that this particular drunk SHOULDN’T HAVE BEEN HERE. If he hadn’t been here, he wouldn’t have killed those people. Now, you can cling to your generalities, oh, well, they would have died eventually of something else, or maybe,it’s like Final Destination and they were meant to die that day, but hey, O’Reilly is a racist. No, he’s not. His consistent point was that THIS ONE INCIDENT could have been prevented had our immigration laws been enforced. I don’t care about drunk driving statistics, or if we lured hard working agrarians here with our filthy lucre and turned them into drunken wank offs; this single incident could have been prevented. The fact that Geronimo had to resort to tacit name calling and asinine slipperly slope arguments (viewers dragging people from their homes) is proof positive he knew he was full of crap. Take the human part out; yeah, it’s just a drunk driving story. Someone I didn’t know died somewhere. People die all the time. Better him than me, right? That’s how liberals live their lives. Want to win the debate? Take the human part out; you’re not aborting a baby; you’re removing a fetus. We’re not cutting and running and leaving the job undone; we’re ending an unjust occupation. Remove enough salient facts and almost anything can be made palatable. Hitler wasn’t engaged in genocide. He was experimenting with population control. Come on honora, you can play too. Over 20% of our prison population is comprised of illegal aliens. Of course, they’re not in there for robbing, raping, and killing. They’re political prisoners! It’s racial. No, wait, I’ve got it! They were lured here with the promise of consequence free murder, rape and theft! Damn, cruel, lying Americans! When will we learn!? /sarc off. Well, I don’t live on that level of abstraction. And I’ve lost enough people in my life that HOW they went is important to consider. Every incident where a person that dies because of drunk driving is a tragedy. Dying at the hands of someone who shouldn’t have been here in the first place is an outrage.

austinnelly on April 7, 2007 at 2:35 AM

Eric,

EricPWJohnson on April 6, 2007 at 4:21 PM

Look in the middle east, even though I’m here by the invite of the government if someone even crashes into my parked car I’m at fault, I’m not supposed to be here. Hey try France, essentially the same rules.

I have absolutely no idea what point you are attempting to make in the above confusingly-written statement. Just that *stuff* happens, whether someone is legal or illegal? If we already have a big enough problem with drunk drivers, we should add to it by allowing illegals to drink and drive too? The fact remains that if all laws had been enforced, the man wouldn’t have been in this country and the two girls would still be alive.

Then your response to AP:

Bill missed a golden opportunity to get a stronger enforcement message out and went for the borderphiles hot button de juer manufactured scandal of the month club, last month it was all the murders illegals committ, this month its the drunk driving, next month it will be the medicare fraud ad nauseum.

O’Reilly has been very clear in the past that illegal immigration must stop. On his Wednesday show (prior to the Geraldo shouting match), he specifically stated that he was going to try to go after sanctuary cities. I would assume that means he will bring to light all associated problems.

Connie on April 7, 2007 at 10:30 AM

Where’s MADD in all this? They’re all over the “Bubbas” of the world, haven’t heard a peep about their stance about illegals with priors being free to continue driving.

naliaka on April 7, 2007 at 12:00 PM

Geraldo is wrong as usual.

Geraldo is a sleezebucket and I wish O’reilly would just drop him on Friday’s. I think the shouting match was put on really…they both smirked at certain times.

Highrise on April 7, 2007 at 4:07 PM

Naliaka, I agree with most of what you have written although I think most Americans cannot afford to have children like the illegals can…because they are not having their health care and housing and food stamps subsized. In fact we could have more children if we weren’t paying for them to have more….Kinda like cutting our own throats!!

Mellen on April 7, 2007 at 5:19 PM

Having been a fan of fox news since the beginning, based primarily upon its using sometimes familiar faces from their former MSM employ and moving them to positions where they can go beyond the simple stand in the storm and talk about the rain or talking head posts,I was appalled that first real “name” they hired ( someone with a position beyond a “lets go to Gil at the courthouse” spot) was this pseudo journalist Geraldo. O’Reilly IMHO, has gone from interesting comenttator
to a bit of a Demagogue, but the bottom line on this little story is and should remain that had this illegal invader NOT been here, then two young girls would not have been killed by him in drunken stupor. Simplistic? of course, but the truth usually is. Geraldo should have never been giving employ at fox, should have lost his position when he drew his infamous “road map” in the sand, and his constant harping about the “poor misguided illegals” being “lured” here is disgusting, but the only song he appears to know

agrees with “Cage Match” recommendation above, and for old times sake, a few chairs should be throw in

CBP

…the will of the masses is divided by far-reaching distortions and the mass mind is corrupted by a knowledge worse than ignorance because it is false.
Ely Culbertson

colorfulbeachpersona on April 7, 2007 at 8:07 PM

AP is right O’reilly is trying to point out if the laws would be enforced on illegal immigration the tragedy would never have happened. It’s that simple. Showing the danger to American citizens by our government, local and Federal, not enforcing the laws! I think a bigger picture and angle is missing about securing the border and enforcing illigal immigration. That’s the illegal drug problem. Mexico is the pipeline for drugs ruining our young people and poisoning our communities with crime. A New drug has been introduced to the Dallas area called Cheese. Simple concotion of Black tar Heroin and over the counter drug cold tablets. Kids are immediately addicted creating a customer base. Guess who is buying them in Dallas. Little grade school kids. Mainly Hispanic. 4 deaths so far and it’s only been in the Dallas area for appx a year maybe two.

Drtuddle on April 8, 2007 at 2:50 PM

This country is based on immigrants.

Vincenzo on April 6, 2007 at 2:43 AM

Can I just say, for once, what a total cop-out that is?

My ancestors were all here before the Revolution. So, I’m not an immigrant, and nobody in my ancestry going back over 200 years was an immigrant. When people say, “Immigrants make this country great,” they’re basically saying my ancestors, who founded and fought for this country, have nothing to do with the greatness of the country. Which is absurd, OK?

Stop putting down the old-stock Americans.

Ali-Bubba on April 9, 2007 at 12:33 AM

OMG. Staged and contrived, but very well acted, I thought.

Jaibones on April 9, 2007 at 10:20 AM

However, let’s keep within the bounds of truth: illegals are a net positive benefit for the economy.

No, they’re not. What they are, is too easy to shift their economic burden off of the employers and onto other areas such as education and healthcare who have no choice but to pay for them with tax dollars.

The employers are reaping huge individual benefits from their presence at the expense of the economy as a whole.

James on April 9, 2007 at 11:01 AM

Actually someone should post that video of Geraldo taking that chair to the nose. For some strange reason, I thought that was hilarious.

bloggless on April 9, 2007 at 11:42 AM