Audio: Ted Rall talks British hostages, Pat Tillman cartoon on Dennis Miller show
posted at 2:58 pm on April 6, 2007 by Ian
Political cartoonist Ted Rall phoned in on the Dennis Miller show yesterday and talked about the Iranian hostage crisis as well as his disturbing scribbles. Rall, who is extremely anti-Bush and consistently anti-American (no, those aren’t the same thing), commented the British were “calm” and used diplomacy, however if it were Bush and American sailors, he would have gone to war with Iran.
The fact that Bush hasn’t gone to war over the 170 Americans who have been killed in Iraq by Iranian weapons is apparently lost on Rall.
Descriptions of the British debacle that Rall didn’t use include “flatfooted” and “weak.” And “humiliating.”
Rall was deadset that “diplomacy” solved the hostage crisis. However, Miller laid out a more than possible scenario that included Pelosi getting Assad to talk to Ahmadinejad to release the troops, thus making them look like the heroes and Bush looking like the loser. Rall submitted, but had to get an Anti-American jab in there, saying the Iranians are just as good or better at propaganda than the US.
Rall commended Blair and Ahmadinejad for not “playing it stupid” because, he said, if it were American sailors, Bush would have played it “stupid” and forced Ahmadinejad into war.
Actually, if the sailors had been American, they wouldn’t have been captured without firing a shot. But never mind that.
At the end of the interview, Rall tried to explain himself for insulting Pat Tillman in one of his cartoons.
The full show is available here.
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What’s that? I heard Tony Blair saying just the other day that the Brits did not negotiate with Iran. That could be false, of course, but if it’s true it kinda throws a wrench into the “we must always negotiate” meme the MSM and lefties keep shoving down our throats every minute of the day.
jaleach on April 6, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Is there any reason someone can give me to listen to the drivel that spews forth from Rall’s mouth?
aunursa on April 6, 2007 at 3:02 PM
No, none whatsoever anursa, the summation is all I need to know, I don’t need to be poking my speakers out with a pencil this early in the day.
bbz123 on April 6, 2007 at 3:08 PM
I can already tell I’m going to like Miller more than what passes for “debate” on most other talk radio shows. He gets it – give them the rope, and they’ll hang themselves. Trust that the audience is smart to see hatred for what it is and that the host doesn’t have to yell and scream about it.
RMSpuhler on April 6, 2007 at 3:09 PM
Rall is… well, I won’t sully this space by finishing that thought.
Anyways, Rall’s assumption that British diplomacy freed the 15 sailors and Marines is the height of absurdity. What freed the hostages was the successfull completion of a premedidated propaganda coup, by Ahmedinewhackjob, via blatant act of war. There may also have been a quid pro quo, courtesy of the Great Satan.
Charles Krauthammer provides some interesting details in his latest column:
and…
Rall also seems to have a problem with the concept of cause and effect, when he suggests that Americans defending themselves from Iranian aggression is tantamount to starting a war.
Eat **** Rall.
-phil
phile on April 6, 2007 at 3:28 PM
In order to be considred a professional cartoonist shouldn’t someone be able to draw at better then a 2nd grade level?
JayHaw Phrenzie on April 6, 2007 at 3:29 PM
Not worth listening to. Probably less than Rosie
less worth than Keith Olby.
Texyank on April 6, 2007 at 3:46 PM
Agree with Texyank. I can’t imagine having enough time to do everything I’d do before reading Ted Rall’s opinion, or listening to it.
Heck, posting a useless “I wouldn’t bother to click the links” post comes before that… which is kinda scary really.
gekkobear on April 6, 2007 at 4:05 PM
How is this anti-American? Is it now anti-American to claim another country does something better than the US? Next it will be treasonous to claim imported beer tastes better than American beer.
Regardless of how anti-American it is, it seems like fact to me. It’s pretty clear this was a huge propaganda victory for Iran; when is the last time our government produced any sort of successful propaganda that gained us sympathy and goodwill from the rest of the world, much less with the the majority of Americans? All of our propaganda (ie. Mission Accomplished banners) seems to backfire. If there is anything we can learn from the Iranians maybe it is how to use propaganda to bring the rest of the world to our side.
JaHerer22 on April 6, 2007 at 4:11 PM
Rall has no Balls.
if he is a cartoonist I am a poet.
robo on April 6, 2007 at 4:15 PM
In re Tillman, isn’t it telling that Rall would only speak well of Tillman once he knew that Tillman shared his views on the war?
spmat on April 6, 2007 at 4:24 PM
How is it possible for us to win a propaganda victory when our media actively fights against us on that front?
We aren’t allowed to use propaganda, largely because of your yeoman’s work in fighting it while gushing over every rattled saber of our enemies. The only recourse of our military in the information war is clear, unequivocal results.
You’ve left us no other options. Thanks!
spmat on April 6, 2007 at 4:29 PM
Yeah and it’s always easier when the media does what you want. If they don’t you can always line them up against the wall or bury them in the desert. Yeah that’s a much better system. Please.
I didn’t realize we needed sympathy. If you need sympathy look between sh@# and syphilis in the dictionary.
Speaking of dictionary here is the handy definition of propaganda: “the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one’s cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect”
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/propaganda
Given the bias in the media and outright lies (propaganda) spread by most senior Democrats it would be beyond difficult to enact a successful propaganda campaign.
VikingGoneWild on April 6, 2007 at 4:53 PM
I’m so sick and tired of retards like Rall throwing around that bogus 600,000 casualty number without ever getting called on it.
He’s both a liar and a fool.
Watcher on April 6, 2007 at 4:53 PM
You stole my thunder!
BTW. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pat Tillman and I still wear my red Pat Tillman wristband. I will never forget.
VikingGoneWild on April 6, 2007 at 4:56 PM
Hmm, I believe the hostages were British, so why wasn’t Rall’s point that Iran is better than Britain at propaganda, or better then Iraq, or better then China or better than any other nation out there? Nope, he had to specifically use the U.S. and SURPRISE, in his esteemed judgment the U.S. came up on the short end of the comparison.
That being said, Rall was probably right, Iran does do “propaganda” better than the U.S. – shoot, I guess we should all hang our heads in shame, fly our flags at half-mast and give up our status as a sovereign nation. Afterall, we don’t do “propaganda” nearly as well as those nations whose media are 100% government controlled. (Nah, the U.S. Media is only 90% controlled by the liberals)
Fatal on April 6, 2007 at 5:16 PM
Doug TenNapel > Ted Rall.
http://www.tennapel.com
fusionaddict on April 6, 2007 at 7:48 PM
Ted Rall is a disgusting human being. I hate people like him. They reap the benefits of a free society that was paid for and protected by the sacrifice of those of us in uniform… only to bash us at every opportunity.
BadBrad on April 6, 2007 at 10:13 PM
If I remember correctly, the last time “our government” tried getting the truth out, much less propaganda, libtards like you sniveled for months about paying for placement of news in newspapers.
91Veteran on April 6, 2007 at 11:00 PM
Ted Rall, “Mr. Democat Talking Ponts”, yes Dennis, your new at this……..
PinkyBigglesworth on April 6, 2007 at 11:28 PM
“…anti-Bush and consistently anti-American (no, those aren’t the same thing)….”
Except in Rall’s case THEY ARE THE SAME THING!
As for the Pat Tillman cartoon. His belated realization that he went too far with the Tillman cartoon cuts no slack as far as I am concerned.
It is my hope that some returning Iraq/Afghanistan vet beats this traitorous little f*ck within an inch of his life someday. Why is this assh*le still breathing?
georgej on April 7, 2007 at 4:29 AM
Ted Rall is typical liberal garbage. Any level headed media type wouldn’t give him the time of day much less a platform to spew his crap. And I would certainly buy a ticket to Rall’s beating, watching this little cup of breast milk get beaten to within an inch of his life and crying for mommy.
lynnv on April 7, 2007 at 8:12 AM
What do you mean “our” government, Kemo Sabe? “Your” government did win the propaganda issue….
ScottG on April 7, 2007 at 1:48 PM