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Global reach, global power

posted at 8:17 pm on April 2, 2007 by Bryan
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This has been bugging me since I gave Erick’s show script a pre-read before shooting yesterday. So I thought I’d share it so it might bug you too.

When I joined the USAF, I spent the next six weeks letting TIs get my mind right for military service. They would march us around a big asphault square, singing morbid chants about getting limbs blown off, losing loved ones, and spending the rest of our lives bedridden with grievous war injuries. It was chipper and cheery stuff, but it did the work of driving home the nature of the thing we’d all volunteered for. It was a good way to get the doubters to find their own way out of the military before their weakness might get people killed.

When we weren’t marching around or getting yelled at or folding our underwear into impossibly small squares, we were in class learning how the Air Force thinks. They taught us a mantra: Global reach, global power. It was the Air Force’s view of itself and its role in national security.

What it means is much less sinister than lefties will make out. It basically means that wherever there’s a need, the Air Force wants the ability to reach and act. If there’s a terrorist camp somewhere and we find out about it, the Air Force wants to be able to hit it. If there’s a need to make a little noise over an enemy capital, the Air Force wants the job. If there’s a need to airlift food and clothing to people in need, as was the case in Berlin a few decades ago or in Pakistan a few years ago, the Air Force wants that job too. Wherever America or the downtrodden need a hand, or wherever there’s a bad guy who needs a little persuasion, or wherever there’s a threat that must be removed, the Air Force wants to play its part. Global reach, global power.

That’s pretty much been the reason the US military has stayed on for decades in places like Japan and Europe. It’s to give the AF and the rest of the military a global reach, even as the mere presence of the US military keeps the peace between people who might not want to fight us but sure don’t like each other (Japan and China, for instance) and might fight if we weren’t there keeping them apart. The ability of a responsible state to project power on a global scale reassures allies and frightens enemies, both of which are to the good.

But what happens when a rogue state achieves global reach and global power? And what happens when that reach and power aren’t of the up front conventional military and treaty kind, but of the proxy terrorist army kind?

Iran has achieved such reach and power, and its goals and purposes for that power aren’t the same as ours. As Erick reported, Iran’s Hezbollah proxy force operates on six continents, and very often in defiance of the states it operates in. Its purpose is, evidently, to spread the Islamic revolution and to strike out against what it perceives to be enemies of that revolution. Our military, by contrast, stays everywhere but Cuba at the request and with the support of the host nation. Hezbollah is in Europe, all over South America and even here in the US. While Hezbollah’s power is on nothing like the scale of our military, it doesn’t really have to be. They don’t have sprawling bases or gigantic aircraft carriers, but that’s not the model they have pursued in building their force. Enemies mostly see our military coming, such as now, when we’re sending the USS Nimitz over to the Persian Gulf. The Iranians, the intended recipient of the message the Nimitz sends, have weeks to prep for its arrival. We have other carriers there now, but we openly rotate them in and out of the AO. Iran’s proxy army doesn’t work that way.

Hezbollah is here, now. I’m not talking paranoid, hide-under-your-bed stuff, just the facts. They’re here. They’ve been here for years. No serious person argues that they aren’t here. They can’t do a tenth or even a thousandth of what our military can do, but they can do an awful lot. The psychology of terrorism scales their power up beyond its actual capabilities. And their ability to do anything here is, in and of itself, a deterrent to us and our alllies doing anything about Iran’s various acts of piracy and other crimes. We have to factor in the possibility that Hezbollah will carry out some kind of attacks against civilians here if we strike Iran’s nuclear facilities over there. We have to factor in the political reaction to any strikes on our own soil, which will include some measure of blaming our own leaders for acting against Iran instead of blaming the Iranian leadership itself.

This is, as far as I know, an unprecedented situation. We’ve dealt with rogue states before, but not one that has built its own terrorist version of global reach, global power and has projected that reach and power right into our territory. And if anything, Iran’s global force can strike us more quickly, albeit on a smaller scale, than we can attack Iran. They see ours coming their way; theirs is already here in our cities. And the proxy nature of Hezbollah gives Iran plausible deniability, just enough to keep us from uniting against the threat. We’ve seen as much in the current debate over Iran’s role in instigating violence in Iraq. TIME magazine more or less argued that such action had to be the work of a few fringe actors, not the actual mullahcracy that runs Iran. They’ll probably argue the same if Hezbollah were to strike here. Iran threatened to kidnap Western troops in retaliation for our arresting Iranian officers in Iraq. Then Iran carried out the threat a few days later, and many in the West blame it all on Bush or on ourselves or on the sailors and Marines who are now hostages. Or Rosie O’Donnell says “Gulf of Tonkin–Google it,” which absolves the mullahs of any responsibility. That the British sailors and Marines are hostages of a regime whose birth pangs included a massive hostage-taking just never enters the discussion. That Hezbollah has kidnapped numerous Westerners over the years, and murdered many of them, has just about gone down the memory hole.

I’m not going to make grandiose predictions about What This All Means. Frankly, I don’t know. I suspect that our military strengths have been countered by Hezbollah, and that its continued existence as a threat will change the nature of the world in ways we can’t yet imagine. If the Hezbollah strategy is successful, expect imitations of it. And expect defensive reactions to it, too.

Iran learned the lesson of the Cold War — that it couldn’t out spend us — and it understood that it can’t out-tech us, but discovered that it can out-terror us. If I were a betting man, I’d lay odds that the Hezbollah model is the way of the future unless the West makes an example of Iran and Hezbollah soon. We can build a fleet of B2s, stealth ships, spy satellites, enough Global Hawks to black the sky, and shape the infantry into a light, lethal force of always connected super soldiers, but none of that will stop an attack on our own soil if we use those weapons in faraway places to defend ourselves or our allies. A ruthless state would respond to the Hezbollah class of threat in the way states always have–by building its own, better, version of the same thing. But we’re not about to do that. We’re not going to out-terror them. We can’t even agree on a legal standard for dealing with captured terrorists without hearing cries that we’re becoming just like the terrorists.

We may be seeing a re-primitivizing of war away from the organized, structured state-based model to something more feudal and harder to control. Hezbollah is a creature of Iran and Syria, but what’s to stop another Osama bin Laden from using his wealth to build another private terror army? What’s to stop 10 or 20 bin Ladens from doing that, and what’s to stop rogue states from helping them out? Nothing that I can see, and with the West divided over how even to deal with bin Laden, there isn’t likely to be a solution to the problem any time soon. The combination of that and the march of technology will make the non-state armies more lethal than their predecessors, and their lack of hard connections to nations and states will make them more apt to kill, not less, because their masters can wash their own hands of the blood. And because they can freelance without fearing that they’ll be keelhauled before the ICC. Civilians lose in this scenario, as the proxy army model destroys the wall between citizens and soldiers. Everyone’s a target, because no one’s held accountable.

In some ways, it’s all a reversion back to the days of pirates on the open seas. In Iran’s case, literally. But in the bad old days, pirates operates at the periphery of civilization, and for the most part civlization eradicated them (when civilized countries weren’t using pirates against each other). Iran’s shadow pirates operate all over the world, even in our own capitals, and their purpose isn’t primarily financial, but ideological.

We may also be entering a new period of MAD, or mutually assured destruction. We can hit them with Tomahawks or carrier-launched aircraft if we need to; they can hit us with conventional shopping mall bombs and, sooner than we’d like, nuclear weapons planted by terrorists in our own cities if they decide to. But this MAD isn’t your father’s MAD. That Iran’s president is an apocalyptic pirate doesn’t help matters. I don’t want to bank on his acting rationally in a crisis to defuse it. He’s more likely to egg it on as it spins out of control.

I don’t know where all this is going, or how it all works out. But I don’t like the trend lines that we’re on. Our global reach and global power has been used to create a stable world that was marching toward greater freedom. Iran’s global reach and power is designed to destabilized countries, destroy cities and deny freedom. The question now is, which side’s global reach and power is the most effective?


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Out-freaking-standing Bryan.

Theworldisnotenough on April 2, 2007 at 8:38 PM

Very depressing, but a thoughtful and interesting post. Thanks Bryan.

eagles5 on April 2, 2007 at 8:38 PM

If this country werent half insane, this post would be the lead editorial in the NYTIMES

Resolute on April 2, 2007 at 8:45 PM

Great Question.
My answer:I’m willing to bet on myself, no matter the outcome. I won’t be afraid to stand before Almighty God and say I did my best, with what I had, and in the way I believed to be right. Let the mullahs and islamists and leftists try to say the same. Almighty God, in whatever name will not be pleased with the way they have been working.

tormod on April 2, 2007 at 8:47 PM

Civilians lose in this scenario, as the proxy army model destroys the wall between citizens and soldiers. Everyone’s a target, because no one’s held accountable.

That is the very essence of Islamic jihad, as we have been told repeatedly by Allah (the other Allah), Muhammad, bin Laden, Zawahiri, etc.

That Iran’s president is an apocalyptic pirate doesn’t help matters.

“The judgement day will come when the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them.”

This is when the Twelfth Imam will appear and send all the infidels to Hell. Ahmadinejad doesn’t have to win the war or even survive it. He merely has to start it.

RedWinged Blackbird on April 2, 2007 at 8:49 PM

It’s five minutes to midnight with Iran. Nice commentary Brian.

I suspect that this will resolve itself when Iran actually does something stupid. They are not building up their enriched stockpile for détente. They are building it up to light up Israel, or otherwise do what terrorists do, which is blow things up.

At that point, that will be all the excuse we need to really utilize our force, and then that will put an end to the Iranian problem. And it will also dispel the myth the the US is afraid to use its own power.

Good Americans, real Americans are behind this all the way, and have been since the moment it dawned on us what has happened on that fateful day. We have to abandon the notion that civility means turning the other cheek.

JeffB. on April 2, 2007 at 8:57 PM

Excellent post, Bryan. I’ve often said that I hope if and when our troops come home, they don’t find the flag of Islam flying over the Capitol.

Connie on April 2, 2007 at 8:59 PM

A terrific read, Bryan. Well done!

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GT on April 2, 2007 at 9:02 PM

As long as we have half our population who consider the other political party a greater threat than the Islamists, we are well and truly scrod.

The Monster on April 2, 2007 at 9:06 PM

Wow…..Bryan…..you are making my head hurt. Great questions, great post…..

I will offer up only what I ‘feel’ about America and war.
Every single war we have had, 1776-2007, has caught us flat footed. Like all countries the military is always superbly equipted and trained to fight the last war, not the new war. Examples….smoothbore muskets in 1861, bolt action rifles in 1914, slow fighter aircraft and the battleship gun club in 1941….just a few. Tactics the same. We will adapt as the war progresses.

As far as this ‘new’ global reach…..I often wonder if it has any legs. It can start a fight, but can it finish it?
God forbid some nutjob pulls a series of attacks here (which I won’t speculate on how) but after that? Where are the legs? Where is the follow up to come from? I am not arguing, just wondering? I am inclined to believe that the attack has no depth even though it has a large amount initial shock.

Limerick on April 2, 2007 at 9:17 PM

Yes, they are here, and they have to their advantage terror, a force multiplier. Unfortunately for them, every home, effectively, is armed, every citizen a soldier, every street a battleground. In the Civil War, Americans proved themselves, fighting for every “desperate inch”, as Churchill put it. I don’t fear for war on our soil, despite its coming. We will win. The aftermath is the issue.

HerrMorgenholz on April 2, 2007 at 9:27 PM

As far as this ‘new’ global reach…..I often wonder if it has any legs. It can start a fight, but can it finish it?

That’s a good point, but only as long as we keep the surrender monkeys out of power.

RedWinged Blackbird on April 2, 2007 at 9:30 PM

Bryan’s analysis is fantastic. What’s really scary is that the this ideological proxy war isn’t being conducted under the cloak of shadows & secrecy, but under the cloak of denial.

p0s3r on April 2, 2007 at 9:36 PM

Excellent analysis, Bryan, and chillingly real.

A shame far too many in this country want to ignore reality.

JammieWearingFool on April 2, 2007 at 10:11 PM

If the very act of asking is so destabilizing for people, than then I have to wonder whether the fabric of our democracy is indeed so raveled it is beyond salvage. My own belief is that the act of asking is itself reparative, because it brings to life the values on which our constitution rests. I am, therefore, pledging my allegiance, hand over heart, trying, as always, for a rigorous truth.

–Rosie O’ (note to Rosie – s/b “then” not “than”)

Heh, you put her quote into this thread and she almost makes sense…but, alas, she deosn’t ask herself such serious questions, about serious topics like this one…

Sorry Bryan, to ‘dirty’ such a serious thread with such thoughts. It’s really futile to ask such pea-brains to think. Because of that, I don’t have much hope for the generation after ours. Rome also didn’t decline over night. It’s really very depressing, unless our country wakes up, as it historically generally did, in need.

Entelechy on April 2, 2007 at 10:26 PM

Key to this question, at least for me…

Is the real America the one coming out of Washington and Hollywood… or is the real America the one I see amongst my freinds.

Fact is that I believe America will step up, when its time. Right now the media agenda is driven by people who are unrealistic… most of what they say is counterproductive to survival, and once we are hit agian, the populace will begin to understand.

Just like the Gathering of Eagles, America is about at the end of its patience, with enemies both foreign and domestic.

Its kinda like at the end of the movie Revenge of the Nerds… when they explain to the beutiful people that we aare fed up… and there ARE more of us, then there are of you.

Romeo13 on April 2, 2007 at 10:28 PM

Good stuff once again Bryan.

LegendHasIt on April 2, 2007 at 10:31 PM

Nice work Bryan, you make this Airman proud. (AMMO: We live so others may die!)

They might have hezbos here already, but I put my money on the FBI to catch ‘em. There’s been several captures already, but we don’t hear much about them. We remember the name Muhammed Atta because he did what he tried to do. Had he been caught, we’d forget about him. Hezbo can’t do much damage to us, they couldn’t do much to Israel, a nation the size of Delaware, and they certainly can’t bring their katusha rockets here with ‘em. But WE can do some serious damage to Iran, like Bryan said, the Air Force and our Navy Brothers will put a hurtin’ on ‘em that they just can not comprehend. They fought Iraq for 10 years and couldn’t win, we beat Iraq in 3 weeks, we can do Iran.

I wonder if one of the reasons we retired the F-14 was to avoid friendly fire in the skies over Iran. I said this in another thread, the Air Force MUST destroy ALL Iranian F-14s on the ground so that no U.S. Navy former Tomcatter flyin’ a Hornet has to shoot down an F-14. Imagine the emotional distress! The Air Force owes it to their Navy Brothers to not let that happen!

Tony737 on April 2, 2007 at 10:38 PM

For all you ‘Second Hand Lions’ out there; enjoy

http://www.authentichistory.com/ww2/music/19411200_Get_Your_Gun_And_Come_Along-Carson_Robison.html

crank up the volume, hit play, and tell the spouse to calm down.

Limerick on April 2, 2007 at 10:39 PM

The question now is, which side’s global reach and power is the most effective?

posted at 8:17 pm on April 2, 2007 by Bryan

At this stage of the game, according to the Main Stream Media and the Liberal Democrats, advantage Iran’s Hezbollah.

Reason, they have allies….. and allies……. and allies…..

PinkyBigglesworth on April 2, 2007 at 10:40 PM

Blackwater…

Theworldisnotenough on April 2, 2007 at 10:53 PM

Excellent post Bryan. Thank you. I’ve added it to my favourites.

One idle thought though. Global reach, even on the cheap, still costs money. As Hot Air has documented, Iran’s economy is on the skids and it looks like oil revenue will be running out in a decade or so. When and if their economy tanks, does this threat diminish or does another state or group start funding the cells?

Canadian Infidel on April 2, 2007 at 11:04 PM

The question now is, which side’s global reach and power is the most effective?

Ours is. That is, it would be if we were ever to actually use it. Which, as you point out, we’re a long way away from.

Currently the “leaders” of the West seem content to ignore every single lesson history has to offer about how to deal with barbarians, “lest we become what we fight.”

The conclusion being, of course, that the current mindset is one of “better to be dead than led.” It’s naive, it’s frustrating, and it’s completely devoid of merit beyond that of sacrificing the future of humanity for a little bit of temporary, feel-good moral superiority.

But it’s not going to stay that way. Eventually, the savages at the gate will cross the line and our leaders will either lead or find themselves strung up by the neck by angry mobs.

And THAT is when the real killing will start. That’s when the REAL genie will be let out of the bottle and we will start killing, killing, and killing some more until there is nothing left to kill.

The irony is, of course, that even more of our enemies and those unlucky enough to inhabit the same countries as they will die as a result of our present refusal to act. It’s irony, but it’s not funny.

The navel-gazing, holier-than-thou, “we’re better than they are” preening going on right now will be paid for in blood at some point. Oceans of it, on both sides.

I just hope that, when the dust settles, the bloodbath includes all of the appeasers and their enablers. Because if they’re still around, then I’ll have to hunt them down and kill them myself instead. With my own hands. And I’ll enjoy it.

Misha I on April 2, 2007 at 11:27 PM

When and if their economy tanks, does this threat diminish or does another state or group start funding the cells?

The terrorists only need to have the ideological commitment. They have plenty of fellow travellers who will fund their cells.

Coyote D. on April 2, 2007 at 11:29 PM

When and if their economy tanks, does this threat diminish or does another state or group start funding the cells?

Hezbollah are good fundraisers. They are probably flush with cash as we speak. Remember the “youths” that were caught in Ohio? They had a number of those prepaid hard to trace cell phone and $600 cash. It would take a serious drought from Iran to drain their current resources I would imagine.

Theworldisnotenough on April 2, 2007 at 11:32 PM

Fact is that I believe America will step up, when its time. Right now the media agenda is driven by people who are unrealistic… most of what they say is counterproductive to survival, and once we are hit agian, the populace will begin to understand.

You are absolutely right about the media agenda. That is why they need to be shut up now, for good. For the good of all of us. At least until the war is over.

Yes, I know very well what those words mean, and I don’t like it either.

The thing is, I don’t particularly feel like waiting until I have to dig my kids’ dead bodies out of the rubble for us to start fighting back and winning this war. All the pious crap about “freedom of the press” in the world isn’t going to do me one bit of good as I watch the mangled bodies of my loved ones. Nor is it going to help any of the thousands of others in this nation going through the same.

We’re at war. We’re facing a very real, very dangerous global threat with global reach, as Bryan so excellently points out, and in such situations other rules apply, at least temporarily.

Or, pretty soon, there won’t be anybody left to rule over.

It’s unpleasant to think about, but think about it still.

Misha I on April 2, 2007 at 11:37 PM

I still don’t buy the argument that they can survive here if push comes to shove. I know we are all good law abiding Americans, wave the flag, play fair, take your kid to Disneyworld……but in chaos? I for one won’t be waiting for the National Guard. ‘Enough is enough’ has made many a posse.

Limerick on April 2, 2007 at 11:39 PM

The question now is, which side’s global reach and power is the most effective?

In waxing/waning terms and in the media existence, the Irans of the world are on the uptick and we’re down a fair bit. If you’re talking reality, then we’re fine. We’re a nation with the largest economy and conventional military and enough nuclear firepower to wipe all life off the planet (which I’m not advocating using, Allah, just saying objectively). I don’t think we’d need to use nukes anyway, we’d be more than able do what was needed to be done with conventional arms. We have enough people who will ultimately do what needs to be done to save free peoples yet again, liberals, Euros and spineless RINOs be damned.

Bad Candy on April 2, 2007 at 11:39 PM

The Rott sez,
You are absolutely right about the media agenda. That is why they need to be shut up now, for good. For the good of all of us. At least until the war is over.

Yes, I know very well what those words mean, and I don’t like it either.

We did it in WWI, and they got their rights back.

Bad Candy on April 2, 2007 at 11:48 PM

Thank you Bryan for stating the problem so clearly.

Here are some counter points for your consideration:

The way to defeat a clandestine organization is from the inside, with infiltrators, and double agents. The same way we took down the KKK, or the same way we’ve taken down organized crime families. As you point out, this threat is a global threat. It will require a global effort to defeat it.

Also, as you have pointed out, everyone is a target. Obviously, that means everyone is now a soldier, or had better become one. Self defense is as much an attitude, as it is a technique or methodology. Use what works, what you have available, to the best of your abilities, in the circumstances you find yourself.

History tells us what happened to native Americans when they were overrun by European invaders. There have been other invasions, in other places, in other times. Now we face another. This time the fight will be over ‘values’, ‘culture’, and it will be political, perhaps more than it will be physically violent.

The most difficult problem will be that of loyalty. Who do you dare trust, when your neighbors, or even family members are working against you?

I suspect that should violence take place in our communities, that we will respond in the same way we humans have always responded. We will respond in kind. When insanely murderous mad men commit violent acts against us, our friends, our family, our community, we, the community will rise up against them and wipe them out, as we have done though out human history. Indeed, that is the only solution, and we see it happening right now, in Iraq.

If the mad mullahs of Islam think they are going to take us down, they have made a fatal miscalculation.

rockhauler on April 2, 2007 at 11:57 PM

Bryan,

Excellent essay. However, I think you’re wrong in saying we are entering uncharted waters. Israel has been living this problem for years. The result is that Israel had to adapt its democracy to the circumstances of terror.

Hezbollah’s global reach is a new circumstance, but the effect of that global reach on any given Western democracy should more-or-less follow the pattern of Israel.

We in the US have not had to adapt yet. The Patriot Act is the left’s current idea of a nightmarish adaption to 9/11. They would freak out if we currently implemented some British programs here in the States (such as country-wide tracking of automobile travel via CCTV scans of license-plates).

Unfortunately, I think a series of future terror attacks are inevitable. After that, I think our children and grandchildren will be astonished that we ever had the leisure to argue over such things as global warming. A return to a World-War 2 type of war footing is entirely probable, which means such things as travel bans, national ID cards, check-points, and the re-opening of the censor’s office. The laws are already on the books, and have been for decades.

Anton on April 3, 2007 at 12:00 AM

Hezbo can’t do much damage to us, they couldn’t do much to Israel, a nation the size of Delaware, and they certainly can’t bring their katusha rockets here with ‘em.

They can hit our economy. Bomb a few of the big box stores and malls would clear them out. Consumer spending accounts for about 70% of our GDP. If you scare enough people into staying home and we will have one hell of a recession.

Of course, that is what will be needed to wake up a lot of Americans to the threat we face.

Bill C on April 3, 2007 at 12:02 AM

Well done Bryan. The answer is; ‘We are the most effective. Easily. But we must pull the trigger. Act in force and no relenting until conclusion. That particular end seems to be our modern day weakness, steadily drawing the actuality of a completely destroyed American city or cities before allowing the full force retaliation of a military built to never utilize full force. Or maybe our military is built especially for full force retaliation and has just never been unleashed? Since 1945. I’m sure we’re going to find out in our lifetimes.

Griz on April 3, 2007 at 12:04 AM

They can hit our economy. Bomb a few of the big box stores and malls would clear them out. Consumer spending accounts for about 70% of our GDP. If you scare enough people into staying home and we will have one hell of a recession.

Of course, that is what will be needed to wake up a lot of Americans to the threat we face.

Bill C on April 3, 2007 at 12:02 AM

Nah… we’d just move on over to the gun counter…

Now, I have to admit the Moslems and Arabic people here in America would hate it… you think the Japenese were treated poorly in WWII???? Wait until the whacko Liberals really get scared… they’ll really go to extremes…

Romeo13 on April 3, 2007 at 12:08 AM

Wait until the whacko Liberals really get scared… they’ll really go to extremes…

Romeo13 on April 3, 2007 at 12:08 AM

Like not going to the Academy Awards in 02? We need to trot that out more. Save me, save me, oh George save me!

Limerick on April 3, 2007 at 12:11 AM

Global reach is only as powerful as you are willing to use it. Iran/Hezbollah has the most powerful now because they are willing to use every resourse at their disposal. Until our cable is cut off or the valet is slow with the Bentley, we don’t have the initiative to do anything.
Take people hostage, kill them, kill women and children…no biggy. Just don’t ever mess with my right to annoy and disgust everyone I can.
They have no reason to get ready for the Nimitz. Their ship has long sailed.

oakpack on April 3, 2007 at 12:22 AM

Limerick on April 3, 2007 at 12:11 AM

No, actualy Internment camps… Dems voted for em… McCarthyism??? Dems were right in there… Manifest destiny and the way we treated Indians??? yep… dems were there too…. Getting into Nam? Dems… Dresden firebombing??? not a word of protest from Dems…. KKK??? whose the last remaining KKK member who is still in the Congress????

My point is that the dems seem to continuously take extreme positions… and when they get scared, they tend to go extreme the other way.

Romeo13 on April 3, 2007 at 12:23 AM

I hope to God you’re wrong, Bryan, but I suspect you are right. Neo-feudalism. Depressing…..

spmat on April 3, 2007 at 12:31 AM

Nice work Bryan, you make this Airman proud. (AMMO: We live so others may die!)

What Tony said (except for the Ammo part).

The F-15 did not need AMMO, it is the Chuck Norris of airplanes… one radar hit and the enemy fell out of the sky. :)

F15Mech on April 3, 2007 at 12:35 AM

Great essay. One wonders why we don’t hit a country like Iran punitively in its financial centers: oilfields, dams, bridges, airports, ports, and highways, to name a few. Are there no men in Washington?

Mojave Mark on April 3, 2007 at 12:44 AM

Bryan. Sorry for misspelling your name in my earlier comment. Thanks again, fantastic, and dead-on commentary. I really appreciate what you and Michelle do every day.

JeffB. on April 3, 2007 at 12:46 AM

The guys on last weekend’s Powerline podcast noted that the once-fabled British Navy no longer really even has the power to take its kidnapped sailors back by force. And a UK commenter at Ace’s a few days ago said that Brits in general are furious about this event.

If England were to look around and think, ‘aha, so this is what happens when you can’t project force,’ might attitudes begin to shift?

Or does this slip down the memory hole with everything else?

kate q on April 3, 2007 at 1:31 AM

I have an idea………

Hit them where it hurts.

Cut off ALL foreign aid to every country, friend and foe alike. Period! Shut it down now! Immediately! No chance to run to the ATM.

Seize ALL foreign assets in United States Banks, friend and foe alike. Some 401K’s might get hit, but you can’t spend the money if your dead.

Stop ALL wire transfers of monies from banks that have a single branch in the United States to any foreign country. Especially, the Bank of America.

Stop ALL payments for Government Contracts to any foreign owned entity working in the United States.

Let the money sit and build up interest, paying for securing our border, sweeping our own country for terrorists, investing in energy production in our own country, and reloading the military.

Then, one by one, starting with our friends, start to “trickle” out the cash as they clean their own houses and start handing over the “bad guys”.

We’ll eventually get to our foe’s money, after further review and audit……… eventually.

Hit them where it hurts.

If they want to change dollars to euros, no problem, let them, we still have the dollars first…….

Then, let’s monitor the traffic of panic between the certain “cells” and close the trap….

Any takers?

PinkyBigglesworth on April 3, 2007 at 1:39 AM

Great piece, Bryan. Very well put, and I think you’re analysis is spot on.

CP on April 3, 2007 at 2:28 AM

The question now is, which side’s global reach and power is the most effective?

Sadly I’m afraid the answer is obvious: it is much easier to destroy than create. It takes an enormous committment of time, talent and resources to build a modern army or city or society. Yet in one split second it only takes a handful of totalitarian blockheads with no real talent or ability to flush hundreds of years of cumulative blood, sweat and toil down the drain. An unfortunate fact of life reinforced by the second law of thermodynamics (sans intervention, everything in our world is moving toward a natural state of entropy). If human history is indication, I see no precedent pointing us down the road toward a kinder, gentler future.

In geopolitical terms, MAD (mutually assured destruction) only worked because the other side didn’t really care to die. Islamistics bring a whole new dimension to the concept of MAD. As in, they really ARE mad. I’m afraid we’re on a very dark collision course. Hang on, ’cause it’s going to get bumpy from here on out.

OC Sandman on April 3, 2007 at 2:31 AM

We can build a fleet of B2s, stealth ships, spy satellites, enough Global Hawks to black the sky, and shape the infantry into a light, lethal force of always connected super soldiers, but none of that will stop an attack on our own soil if we use those weapons in faraway places to defend ourselves or our allies.

Bryan, I refer you to the essay written by Wretchard at the Belmont Club.

It is titled The Three Conjectures.

Even if every Muslim in America were a member of Hamas (and nobody seriously believes this), they cannot terrorize a nation of 300 million people who hold nuclear weapons.

In the absolute worst case scenario, where Iran or their proxies like Hamas obtain and uses nuclear weapons in America’s cities, Wretchard hypothesizes that a point will be reached where the people of America will demand the extermination of Islam.

But long before that point is reached, the fingerprints of Hamas and/or Al Qaeda will be detected. So we will know who our enemy is. If America was willing to invade Afghanistan to go after bin Laden, only a fool would think that “plausible deniability” would save Teheran (or the tribal lands of Pakistan) from our vengeful response.

Not even the Democrats could stand up to a demand by the American people to retaliate against Iran should we lose an American city.

So, let’s rule out the Mullah’s attempt to use nuclear weapons against the USA and assume that they will rely upon the tried and true methods of suicide bombers, car bombs, and so on, in those 10 US cities that Stakelbeck notes they are active in.

I remember the SDS’s attempt to bomb America into Communism in the late 60’s. I remember how it failed miserably. If you recall, they (and their fellows in the SLA) were all hunted down to the point of impotence.

I remember the FALN attempt to bomb America into giving Puerto Rico independence. Is PR independent today? Until Clinton pardoned them, they were all in jail.

If is awfully hard for a bunch of terrorist cells to destroy a country of 300 million people (85 million of which own personal firearms) through bombing and such.

So, I’ve come to the conclusion that anything short of the detonation of a nuke or other weapon of mass destruction in a US city will result in these Hamas cells of terrorists being hunted down and exterminated once they show their hand.

Why?

Because they are READILY IDENTIFABLE as (1) middle eastern extraction and/or (2) Muslim. Unlike in the middle east, they simply cannot blend in and hide among our general population. And if they try, every Muslim in America runs the risk of being on the short end of a war of extermination should our population get sufficiently riled up over their terrorists attacks.

Should Hamas strike inside the USA, there will be nothing that CAIR nor the Democrats could do to prevent a “profiling backlash” of historic proportions that would exceed what happened to the Japanese-Americans in 1942.

Any politician that stood in the way would find themselves overwhelmed, shouted down, and removed from office, forthwith.

Since you brought up the Cold War, Bryan, I remember reading an article in the early 90’s after the Soviet Union’s archives were opened to researchers from the West. That article described conversations between former KGB and Red Army staffers and their American/NATO counterparts. It turns out that the USSR had no serious plans to invade the United States in the event of general war. Why? Because they knew of no way to defeat a nation that had 85 million armed partisans.

Iran faces this same problem.

They simply cannot have ENOUGH sleepers inside this country to prevail short of using enough nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction. And if they tried, it still would NOT prevent our taking revenge upon Iran, directly.

One of our SSBN’s, deployed at sea and effectively invulnerable to Hamas or Iran’s military, could destroy Iran and their 55 million people.

In my opinion, should Iran threaten to order Hamas to rise up and strike, it would only, ultimately, destroy Hamas-in-America. You can only use a weapon like Hamas one time. After that, they will have shot their wad, because the threat of Hamas sleeper cells only is potent if they are never used.

America must not take counsel from our fears. To do so is to play Iran’s game.

georgej on April 3, 2007 at 5:14 AM

Not pleasant, but very nutritious, food for thought, Bryan.

I think Iran has other plans than to let off its pretty new nukes. They’re the porcupine’s quills, letting Iran gradually, neighbor by neighbor, take over the mid-east and its oil reserves.
Then, along with Russia which has its own big grudge against the West, simply shut off the tap. No oil, no Great Satan. Death by strangulation.

Oh, don’t worry about that weapon backfiring. China will buy all they can pump.

Oil. That’s the noose being tired for us. We can deal with moslem 5th columnists among us, we can deal with collaborators and traitors and cowards, we can axe our inept leaders. That’s the easy stuff. But what the hell are we doing to do without the Goddam oil?

dhimwit on April 3, 2007 at 6:11 AM

Great work Bryan, first class! Thanks.

The world is a tough place. But like many here I believe that when the going gets tough, the tough get going. That’s the USA. Uncle Sam is tough old man with a lot of patience, but very tough. When the gloves come off, we cannot be beat. In the end, no one will defeat us and we will not submit.

Zorro on April 3, 2007 at 6:48 AM

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

kmcguire on April 3, 2007 at 8:11 AM

The big difference is we, and the West can go Roman and they can’t. If and when they strike with any ferocity and/or regularity, we will have the political will to go Roman just like we did with Germany and Japan. Tehran and Damascus will be the modern day equivalents of Carthage. Until then, we shadow dance.

TheBigOldDog on April 3, 2007 at 8:23 AM

It is interesting to me how many comments on this thread view a major terrorist event in the U.S. as a foregone conclusion.
What will be the tipping point? 10,000 dead or a million?

Babs on April 3, 2007 at 8:42 AM

Nice work, BP. I’m glad to see you’re getting more time to write your insightful posts. Takes me back to the JYB days.

pistolero on April 3, 2007 at 8:55 AM

F-15Mech, you are correct sir! The Eagle is The Man! It’s been the Champ since the Day It Was Born … which ought to be a National Holiday … Eagle Day! But now we have an even GREATER champion, the King of the Sky, the god of war … that big, bad, mean MoFo … the F-22 Raptor! I was talking to one of our pilots (SWA) who is still in the Reserves, he told me that during recent war games, he and 5 other F-15s went up against ONE F-22, all 6 were taken out before they even knew where the Raptor was. I’m glad this plane is on OUR side!

dhimwit … that’s why we gotta drill ANWR … but NOOOOoooooo … the libs are afraid the carabou will become extinct … nevermind the fact that the carabou LOVE the Alaskan pipeline, the warmth it provides and the fact that their numbers have INCREASED since the pipeline was built.

Romeo13 is right on target … for anybody out there who doesn’t get what he said, just watch “Team America”: “There are 3 kinds of people in the world … d*cks, p*ssies and *ssholes … and p*ssies are only an inch away from *ssholes.”

Tony737 on April 3, 2007 at 9:19 AM

WHERE HAVE ALL THE HEROES GONE?

They are dying at the rapid rate.

WHERE IS THE ENEMY NOW?

Pouring over the border, under our armpits, in every single nook and cranny of our ONCE GREAT NATION.

Look to Heaven folks…its the ONLY place worth running to.

seejanemom on April 3, 2007 at 9:23 AM

Bryan’s excellent article and the ensuing comments have given me many things to think about, and have led me to some currently tenuous notions…

…we do tend to begin war based on the last war we fought, but we are quick to adapt to the situation and then shift the focus, the terrain, if you will, to a scenario we’re better able to operate in. 1941 saw us (and forgive my generalizing) with a battleship-based fleet, which when effectively eliminated forced us to change tactics and bring in the carrier age.

…no previous opponent has had such an ephemeral target – they’re not aiming to take our land, not looking to add our GDP to their own, they’re looking to subjugate our spirit, to bring our souls, if you will, into their kingdom. This strategy of “a thousand cuts” is different in that there’s no one adversary to focus on.

…what will be the flashpoint, the “Pearl Harbor” or “Gulf of Tonkin” (sorry, I absolutely must google that one of these days) be? The event that galvanizes us to action?

I know, I’m unfocused and rhetorical, I know. But for me it’s been long hours and little sleep. I apologize for slapping this comment up, but I’m just one of a myriad others who are out here, the dark matter of a nation, unmeasured but critically important.

zs57 (ookina tsubasa)

zenstudent57 on April 3, 2007 at 9:33 AM

I just hope that, when the dust settles, the bloodbath includes all of the appeasers and their enablers. Because if they’re still around, then I’ll have to hunt them down and kill them myself instead. With my own hands. And I’ll enjoy it.

Misha I on April 2, 2007 at 11:27 PM

What a nice Christian young man you must be!
So in your apocalyptic fantasies I take it you see yourself as Mel Gibson in the Mad Max series.
Judge, jury and executioner — continuing our constitutional principles after the apocalypse….

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 9:41 AM

This is not simply a good analysis, it is a great analysis of a very real & growing threat in our own backyard. But we don’t need secure borders.

This should be the featured op-ed piece in every major newspaper in the country and the lead story on every television info-tainment program.

It should be.

locomotivebreath1901 on April 3, 2007 at 10:09 AM

PinkyBigglesworth on April 3, 2007 at 1:39 AM

Are you serious about this plan? Do you realize the implications something like this would have on our economy?Considering the trade deficit, our dependence on foriegn oil, and the trillions of dollars in debt the government is in I think this would hurt us more than any other country.

JaHerer22 on April 3, 2007 at 10:12 AM

Hmmm….. OK…. Lets kill two birds with one stone.

The US military is having problems expanding…

Its still on the books that those who serve in the US Military get a short cut to citizenship for serving…

We got 12-20 Million illegals, serve or get the F### Out!

Romeo13 on April 3, 2007 at 10:44 AM

In related news it looks like Mogadishu, Somalia wants to challenge Babylon, er Baghdad, Iraq as terrorist vacation hot spot.
4 Days of Fighting in Mogadishu Leaves 381 Dead

LakeRuins on April 3, 2007 at 10:59 AM

So in your apocalyptic fantasies I take it you see yourself as Mel Gibson in the Mad Max series.
Judge, jury and executioner — continuing our constitutional principles after the apocalypse….

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 9:41 AM

You have trolls here too? That must be what it is, because I don’t see how any sentient being could be that imbecilic without intent.

Misha I on April 3, 2007 at 11:31 AM

Great analysis, Bryan.

This is a new war, yet an old one. It’s a clash of cultures, and ideologies. In effect, this is regressed back to the time of the middle ages. Religious war. It’s Islamism against everyone else. Wahabism must be destroyed, or it will destroy us. And there’s two ways to fight it. One is, destroy it in the field of ideals. That’s the tough road, and requires a sustained missionary effort, if you will. Convert em to something else. That’s also the humane way, and the preferred way.

Can it be done? I hope it could, but I doubt it would do it completely. Still, it’s important to try.

The second way is just to exterminate it. And that won’t be easy either. Who wants to have all that blood on their hands? I suspect it will be the ultimate solution, though.

Vanceone on April 3, 2007 at 11:42 AM

The question now is, which side’s global reach and power is the most effective?

Since we have defeated the taliban in Afghanistan and Saddam in Iraq, I would say that ours is more effective. The blabbering in the MSM and the left about the “illegal and immoral” war in Iraq and the dire warning about what may occur if we attack Iran helps prove that. They would not be blabbering so much if they thought our military was not up to the challenge.

As to how long our superiority will last; that depends upon congress as they have the power of the purse and can defund our military to the point where the military is no longer effective. I hope this doesn’t happen but the current attempts by the democratic controlled congress to limit the president’s effective use of the military does not bode well for America.

RedinBlueCounty on April 3, 2007 at 12:06 PM

Misha I on April 3, 2007 at 11:31 AM

I know Misha — it is embarrassing when someone you haven’t met is able to so easily deduce what you are hoping for — the collapse of America so you can come out from behind your keyboard and shoot a few people you deem undesirable or not in agreement with your worldview. (Although you may find the short supply of guts a bit surprising. Killing is not a video game or remote view of others doing it.)
Why should you and a few others that post here be so hard on the “leftie traitors” who want the country to collapse? After all they are helping you reach your goal of anarchy and chaos that lets you be the star in your own fantasies.

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 12:16 PM

A fine piece of work, Bryan. And I think, oddly enough, the import of what you’re saying is one of the reasons the recent Rosieposts are generating what might seem undue attention.

Unlike the America of WWII, almost two generations of Americans have been brought up with the idea that peace in the world is brought about by “being nice”, that no culture is better than any other – all that other stuff – and that a pricipal enemy of realizing their goals of better humanity is any sense of “American exceptionalism” or power projection, etc.

Rosie’s latest rants reinforce that many millions of Americans don’t even have the ability to identify what is in their long-term survival interests, and they will gladly either serve as a 5th column against anything representing a strong America (as opposed to world citizenry), or, even if they recognize the enemy, they are ready – as Winny said – to feed the crocodile in hopes that it will eat you last.

eeyore on April 3, 2007 at 12:19 PM

This is not unprecedented. We have a precedent to fall back on, even if some think its wrong.

Internment.

It can be done in more equitable manner then we did with The Japanese-Americans in that we can pass provisions to let them keep their properties, defer the taxes on said properties, let them have legal standing and recouse, but over all we need to put them were we can watch them and monitor their communications.

opusrex on April 3, 2007 at 2:31 PM

opusrex on April 3, 2007 at 2:31 PM

I guess it is all good as long as you are a legal US citizen that isn’t in the “wrong” group. Precedent doesn’t mean it was right or constitutionally sanctioned. By your logic slavery could be reinstated because there are precedents — just need to be more equitable….

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 2:44 PM

but over all we need to put them were we can watch them and monitor their communications.

opusrex on April 3, 2007 at 2:31 PM

We already have that ability. It is called ease dropping on mosques on Fridays.

LakeRuins on April 3, 2007 at 3:02 PM

I just hope that, when the dust settles, the bloodbath includes all of the appeasers and their enablers. Because if they’re still around, then I’ll have to hunt them down and kill them myself instead. With my own hands. And I’ll enjoy it.

Misha I on April 2, 2007 at 11:27 PM

What a nice Christian young man you must be!
So in your apocalyptic fantasies I take it you see yourself as Mel Gibson in the Mad Max series.
Judge, jury and executioner — continuing our constitutional principles after the apocalypse….

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 9:41 AM

Obviously Misha’s wishes regarding appeasers and enablers rubbed you the wrong way, didn’t it, Bradky?

thirteen28 on April 3, 2007 at 6:07 PM

thirteen28 on April 3, 2007 at 6:07 PM

Anyone who wants to see the country fall, no matter what their political views will rub me the wrong way, especially when they dream of killing those with whom they disagree. No different than the Extreme Islamafascists in any way shape or form — just a different form of tyranny.

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 6:35 PM

Anyone who wants to see the country fall, no matter what their political views will rub me the wrong way, especially when they dream of killing those with whom they disagree. No different than the Extreme Islamafascists in any way shape or form — just a different form of tyranny.

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 6:35 PM

I don’t recall him saying he wanted the country to fall. I must not be as astute at mindreading as you are.

thirteen28 on April 3, 2007 at 6:50 PM

I must not be as astute at mindreading as you are.

thirteen28 on April 3, 2007 at 6:50 PM

Nope not mindreading — just reading. He revels in the thought of its collapse.

Misha I on April 2, 2007 at 11:27 PM

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 6:58 PM

Nope not mindreading — just reading. He revels in the thought of its collapse.

Misha I on April 2, 2007 at 11:27 PM

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 6:58 PM

Well, I shouldn’t presume to speak for Misha, and he’s certainly more than adept at defending himself, but I read it as him reveling in the thought of the appeasers and enablers (along with our enemies) getting their just deserts IF things were to collapse.

And I would certainly revel in the same, because anyone that places their own feelings of moral superiority over defense of this country and the west in general would be deserving of such a fate.

thirteen28 on April 3, 2007 at 7:07 PM

sooo you are enabling Misha? Guess you aspire to be his second in command of the militia. Good luck throwing your keyboards at the bad guys.

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 7:09 PM

sooo you are enabling Misha? Guess you aspire to be his second in command of the militia. Good luck throwing your keyboards at the bad guys.

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 7:09 PM

Enabling him as much as you would enable the Islamofascists and their sympathizers with your own sense of moral superiority. If it weren’t for people like you, Bryan’s original post would have never been written and this debate would never have taken place.

Now go pray towards Mecca, it’s about that time and you need to get used to it.

thirteen28 on April 3, 2007 at 7:16 PM

sooo you are enabling Misha? Guess you aspire to be his second in command of the militia. Good luck throwing your keyboards at the bad guys.

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 7:09 PM

Instead of just taking pot-shots at other posters for their views/fears of what the future might hold, why don’t you share your view of what the future will be like? Tell us all what exactly will have to happen in order to make your view of the future come true? Oh, and give us all the benefits of your wisdom and insights into how to deal with the expanding terrorist threats that Bryan talked about.

Or do conditional threats, in a possible future, against “appeasers”, hit a little too close to home for you?

Fatal on April 3, 2007 at 7:20 PM

thirteen28 on April 3, 2007 at 7:16 PM

LOL I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you weren’t some adolescent type such as Misha. Guess I was wrong. Go put a uniform on and defend our country or go back to your video games and girls gone wild videos.

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 7:21 PM

Tell us all what exactly will have to happen in order to make your view of the future come true? …Or do conditional threats, in a possible future, against “appeasers”, hit a little too close to home for you?

Fatal on April 3, 2007 at 7:20 PM

What needs to be done? How about coming from behind your keyboard and running for office and make changes within the system. Maybe spend some time in the military if you haven’t already.
Appeaser doesn’t hit close to home at all but nice try with the labeling. I’ve served and been involved in community politics.
And believe me the last thing in the world I worry about is some internet commenter posing any threat to me. I’ve lived in the real world and continue to do what I can to make a difference.
I take pot shots at posters whose only future view is some Mad Max type world where the individual and not the republic is in charge of justice. The desire to kill those with whom you disagree is no different than what the Islam extremists desire.

And to date, I haven’t seen any brilliant ideas from you on how to change things and maintain the republic without it becoming the fourth reich.

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 7:30 PM

why don’t you share your view of what the future will be like? Tell us all what exactly will have to happen in order to make your view of the future come true? Oh, and give us all the benefits of your wisdom and insights into how to deal with the expanding terrorist threats that Bryan talked about.

Uhm, you do know the meaning of “you” and “your” don’t you? I guess you just couldn’t do it, huh?

Serve in Uniform? Been there done that, Navy Carrier Pilot.

Run for Office? Been there done that, Circuit Court Judge

Lived in the “real” world”? Apparently not, at least not in the “reality” you live in.

Fatal on April 3, 2007 at 7:35 PM

And to date, I haven’t seen any brilliant ideas from you on how to change things and maintain the republic without it becoming the fourth reich.

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 7:30 PM

All that life experience and you want lil ol me to tell you what to do. I did offer my thoughts and you have done those things. Good on ya. I will give you credit for not spewing Misha’s fantasies – why you feel compelled to defend them is puzzling though.

Don’t waste your breath – not coming back to this thread.

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 7:41 PM

LOL I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you weren’t some adolescent type such as Misha. Guess I was wrong. Go put a uniform on and defend our country or go back to your video games and girls gone wild videos.

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 7:21 PM

And now, on cue like a typical troll, Bradky pulls out the chickenhawk argument. Nancy would be proud.

I take pot shots at posters whose only future view is some Mad Max type world where the individual and not the republic is in charge of justice.

Those posters have already pointed out to you the fact that if such a scenario comes to pass, it will only be because our leaders refuse to do what’s in their power to defend our country now, hence this statement which you missed:

Currently the “leaders” of the West seem content to ignore every single lesson history has to offer about how to deal with barbarians, “lest we become what we fight.”

BTW, I’ve worn the uniform for my country, don’t own a console, and don’t watch GGW. You need better material than that.

thirteen28 on April 3, 2007 at 7:43 PM

Don’t waste your breath – not coming back to this thread.

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 7:41 PM

Color me surprised!

Fatal on April 3, 2007 at 7:44 PM

Bryan,

As many have expressed, excellent post!

IMHO, however, there is a key element omitted both in your post and the comments it prompted (as far as I could see).

Canadian Infidel opens the topic by saying:

Global reach, even on the cheap, still costs money. As Hot Air has documented, Iran’s economy is on the skids and it looks like oil revenue will be running out in a decade or so. When and if their economy tanks, does this threat diminish or does another state or group start funding the cells? Canadian Infidel on April 2, 2007 at 11:04 PM

We make a horrible mistake if we believe it is only the Mullahs behind the curtain. Russia and China – with their combined economic and military power – may stand in deeper shadows, but are there with ready support for Hezbollah nonetheless. Not in the future. Now.

If we regard their engagement as anything less than intentional we seriously underestimate the forces that are manuevering into position against The West – and the US in particular.

With the “stabilizing presence” of the United States diminished or nullified, China is loosed to pursue its own global ambitions. Russia would be freed to re-exert its world presence as well. If we dismiss this reality we are nearly defenseless. First terrorist offensives scatter us, then the major Asian powers advance in areas we are newly reluctant to defend. If we hesitate at that point of vulnerability, Pax America is ended and a new a dark order is ascended.

The Ritz on April 3, 2007 at 7:48 PM

Don’t waste your breath – not coming back to this thread.

Bradky on April 3, 2007 at 7:41 PM

Brave Sir Robin ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!

He is packing it in and packing it up
And sneaking away and buggering up
And chickening out and pissing off home,
Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge…

thirteen28 on April 3, 2007 at 7:50 PM

“The question now is, which side’s global reach and power is the most effective?”

It’s magnitudes easier to destroy than to build.

Kevin M on April 4, 2007 at 2:15 AM

The Ritz gets it. There are clouds behind the clouds.

dhimwit on April 4, 2007 at 9:16 AM

Brave Sir Robin ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!

He is packing it in and packing it up
And sneaking away and buggering up
And chickening out and pissing off home,
Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge…

thirteen28 on April 3, 2007 at 7:50 PM

You just made it to the top of my favorite posts list. Thank you, thirteen28, great job, and an excellent life.

tormod on April 4, 2007 at 6:16 PM

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