Red on red mania: Sunni insurgents kill two Al Qaeda capos in Baghdad; Update: Dire assessment at Powerline
posted at 8:33 pm on April 1, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Well, who knows. Assuming it’s true it sounds like it happened within the past few weeks or months, which adds some background to last week’s AQ car-bomb assassination of one of the leaders of the 1920 Revolution Brigades. Roggio thinks the 1920 Brigades might themselves be splitting into pro- and anti-AQ wings. That would make sense given the news about members of the al-Zubaie clan warring with each other, culminating in an assassination attempt on Iraqi deputy PM Salam al-Zubaie by one of his own relatives. The Times provides a possible motive:
Some senior Sunni insurgents believe that Al-Qaeda in Iraq shares the agenda of Iranian-backed Shi’ite militias to plunge the country into ever more violent sectarian conflict rather than concentrating on the fight against the US-led coalition.
Late last year Salam al-Zubaie, Iraq’s deputy prime minister, began secret talks with the Sunni groups with the aim of coaxing them away from Al-Qaeda. He held meetings with commanders of groups including the 20th Revolutionary Brigade, the general command of the Iraqi armed forces, the Islamic Army of Iraq, the Ba’ath party and the Salah al-Deen al-Ayyubi Brigade…
A senior commander in the Islamic Army said Zubaie had promised not only to help to unify the Sunni groups but also to provide them with financial and logistical support to stop Iranian infiltration.
The insurgents demanded assurances from the government that they would not be arrested or attacked by the security forces. They also asked for promises that they could eventually join the security forces.
There was one sticking point. “We insisted that our fight with the occupying forces would continue as they are to blame for our current situation,” the Islamic Army commander claimed.
So it’s not all good news, needless to say. In fact, I’m not even sure al-Zubaie chatting with them about focusing on “Iranian infiltration” is unmitigated good news given what that might mean. Maybe it’s a reference to Revolutionary Guard operatives inside Iraq, maybe it’s a Sunni politician giving them veiled approval to start bumping off Sadrist/Shiite government ministers. Hopefully not the latter given the evident distaste some Sunni insurgents have for AQ and its mania for sectarian warfare. That’s the best news to take out of all this.
Speaking of which, read this piece from Newsweek about U.S. troops on foot patrol in Adhamiya, the heart of the insurgency in Baghdad. Says one of the MiTT advisors attached to Charlie Company:
“It’s night and day compared to before,” he says of the Iraqi Army this time around. “They’re still not up to our standards, but it makes you feel a little bit better about getting out of here on time.” The Iraqi Police are a different matter. “The IPs, they’re all militias,” he says. “You can keep them all. But the Army is all right.”
A Sunni intel officer with the IA unit that’s working with Charlie Company says that within three of the four battalions, 60-70% of the members are militiamen.
Update: Following on the Newsweek link, an exceedingly grim take in an unlikely online spot. I wonder what, if anything, Roggio will have to say about it. A taste:
The Iraqi government and security forces are so thoroughly infiltrated by the Shia militias that you could say that the militias are the government and you would not be far off. Iraqi police in Southern Iraq are not in the fight against the militias at all. Top CF targets walk the streets freely in every city. In most cases police stations are manned by JAM members in police uniforms who actively aid the terrorists. On the rare occasion that a Shia terrorist is actually arrested by an ISF unit, he must be turned over to CF immediately or he will be released by the police or courts…
We have mismanaged Iraq in ways too numerous to list here for four years. In order to succeed on the ground we would have to scrap everything we have done and start over….
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That sounds like “quote of the day” material to me. Too easy or what?
RedWinged Blackbird on April 1, 2007 at 8:38 PM
Progress. Just as the President had hoped for.
Zorro on April 1, 2007 at 8:45 PM
Sunnis killing Sunnis? Next we’ll hear of Sunnis and Shiites working together despite them being like matter and anti-matter.
frankj on April 1, 2007 at 10:29 PM
Al-Qaeda has reverted to an exact duplicate of their thieving pedophile warlord leader, Mo the First.
Only the media is still in the dark about the self-declared terroristic tenets of intolerant, imperialistic Islam, having studiously avoided reading the backround material (Koran, Hadiths, Sunna) since 9/11.
The motto of the MSM: Allah news that’s fit to print.
profitsbeard on April 1, 2007 at 10:31 PM
The democrat party must be in mourning. They LOVE al-Qaeda.
SouthernGent on April 1, 2007 at 10:40 PM
They think they’ve won so now they’re dividing up turf.
- The Cat
MirCat on April 1, 2007 at 10:54 PM
Wow AP, you made The Corner, You “playful intellect” you.
billy on April 1, 2007 at 11:29 PM
Why not try it with “the Gloves Off”…… maybe liberal restrictions on what you can and can not do in battle with people that want to kill you the moment they wake up in the morning, might just not be a good thing. Ya think?
PinkyBigglesworth on April 1, 2007 at 11:50 PM
Thanks for the report. I read every Iraq post, but most of the time I don’t have anything to say, so I don’t comment. I just want you to know every Iraq post is read.
JustTruth101 on April 2, 2007 at 12:17 AM
It’s sad when I imagine Iraq’s government being more vile and corrupt than Mexico’s.
Buck Turgidson on April 2, 2007 at 12:59 AM
Um, did anyone read the last part of Massah Allah’s post? That bit from Newsweek? Not that Newsweek gets anything right most of the time, but if they’re actually onto something here about the Iraqi forces being de facto Shi’ite militias , then the decomp of every other military and para-military force in Iraq is only the Fleeting Good News before the Really Bad News
The murkier this gets, the greater the MSM/Demo ( same thing ) feeding frenzy grows.
Janos Hunyadi on April 2, 2007 at 2:50 AM
Then there’s the domestic political situation which I won’t rehash except to say that it’s crippling to the war effort. We’ve been in country over a year and there have been Democratic calls for timetables and withdraws the entire time. Would, should, any rational person bet his life helping CF when you’re expecting them to leave at any time?
TheBigOldDog on April 2, 2007 at 6:06 AM
As I have said before, that Mooslims killing other Mooslims is a win-win for the rest of the world.
mustng66 on April 2, 2007 at 8:18 AM
There’s a ring of truth to the downbeat appraisal of the Iraqi police forces. I’ve spoken with several men who’ve returned from deployment to Iraq, and their stories about the police are uniformly negative.
Typically, they give examples like patrolling an area within line of sight of a police checkpoint, then returning a short time later to the same place and having an IED go off. No warning from the police, who they believe either observed the IED being planted by others or may have emplaced it themselves. This has happened on both vehicle and foot patrols.
Another example was when an American battalion commander made sure to issue 500-round cases of 9mm ammunition to several Iraqi police checkpoints – only to find a couple of days later that the police had perhaps 3 rounds on them, and had sold the remaining ammunition on the black market.
We’ve invested a lot of time getting the Iraqi army up to speed, and have some positive results to show for it. The police, however, are another matter. They’re fabulously corrupt and deeply penetrated by the bad guys, especially the Shia death squads. This is a significant reason why it’s so hard to keep the urban violence in check – the army can’t be everywhere, and the police too often aren’t doing their jobs, or are in cahoots with the people doing the bombings, or are doing the killings themselves.
This is going to be a long, hard slog – assuming that the donkey party isn’t successful in pulling the plug and running away by next year. It seems clear that what’s going on – by design or accident – is a two-tier approach: first get the army on its feet, then sort out the cops. And we’re still working on phase one.
Spurius Ligustinus on April 2, 2007 at 8:50 AM
It will take years to stem the tide of islamo-fascism and we have to start in the schools. Just like the homos are trying to indoctrinate our kids with their sick agenda to create emnity between parent and child, we must do the same in the muslim community. We need to replace superstition with education and fear with responsiblity for the community.
csdeven on April 2, 2007 at 10:12 AM
Robert Spencer and the JihadWatch staff have been saying what PowerLine said for years. Even if we do suppress the insurgency, so what? You still have the same Islamic nutjobs you had before. Ban Islam in the country for 50 years, and you might make some progress.
PRCalDude on April 2, 2007 at 12:38 PM
Almighty God will have to start over, First, remove the human race (Islamists, Leftists) from the planet.
Sorry, colateral damage-U.S. and very few allies.
The real reason for the comet that ended the Dinosaurs…
tormod on April 2, 2007 at 12:54 PM
You tart up your self-righteousness in holy language and displace your contempt for all of us onto “Almighty God.” I straightforwardly advocate that the liberal democracies destroy or subjugate an enemy, take what they need, and move on to the next enemy. The Americans don’t fail at war; they fail to make war. Their reforms don’t fail; they’re too piteous to force real reforms in the first place. You follow up their cruel pity with your own pious cruelty.
Kralizec on April 2, 2007 at 2:43 PM
Gee, and I was told I was only allowed to post if I stayed on my meds. ;)
Connie on April 2, 2007 at 9:58 PM
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