Hot new Internet trend: Tormenting people with cancer

posted at 1:41 pm on March 28, 2007 by Allahpundit

The New Editor has been laid low by a cataclysmic Instalanche so Tom Elia told me I could go ahead and just link directly to his discovery of the latest in oncological schadenfreudean apparel. Get yer “Yay, Tony Snow’s cancer!” t-shirts right here.

As for this, I don’t know what to say except that I’m willing and able to work pro bono. Nothing’s going to ease the pain for Maia, but a new car purchased with the damages from a tort claim or two couldn’t hurt.

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Every day brings a new low.

JammieWearingFool on March 28, 2007 at 1:46 PM

Who grows these kind of people?

Limerick on March 28, 2007 at 1:46 PM

What kind of pathetic slug is Eliot Stein, anyway?

georgej on March 28, 2007 at 1:48 PM

wow… just… wow…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on March 28, 2007 at 1:49 PM

An ignorant message by a lazy hack that can’t even take the trouble to create a halfway decent-looking site. I’ll bet his parents are proud.

dalewalt on March 28, 2007 at 1:49 PM

What, liberal bastards are digusting human beings?

Nothing new here, move along please.

JackM on March 28, 2007 at 1:51 PM

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

Slublog on March 28, 2007 at 1:55 PM

Is anyone really surprised? They torch effigies of US soldiers and crap on the American flag. Just par for these self centered twads.

darwin on March 28, 2007 at 1:57 PM

Both of those are disgusting.

Allah, if a lawsuit does get filed against that bastard and they need financial support, just tell me where to send my donation.

JadeNYU on March 28, 2007 at 2:01 PM

Here’s the full article about that scumbag. As Cathy Seipp Lay Dying, Internet Antagonist Took His Final Shot.

wordwarp on March 28, 2007 at 2:03 PM

There is an aspect to this that has sort of an upside. Not so very long ago, a person with this small of a mind had limited ability to get to a mass audience. Now, we are seeing the ramblings of insane little brown-shirts that are able to get onto literally millions of other people’s screens. I do have faith that there are more people with sanity,morality and decency,that, as they become more acutley aware of the blackness of the opposition’s hearts, will begin to put these vile creatures in their proper place in what we hope is a civilized society.

bbz123 on March 28, 2007 at 2:10 PM

They are no longer afraid to announce to the world that they are horrible people. And yet they would want to teach our children, take care of our elderly, and govern our people. What a horrible group of monsters the Democrats have become. Absolutely horrible.

crosspatch on March 28, 2007 at 2:10 PM

Does this really surprise anyone?

I mean really, any of it?

You know damn well there are plenty of leftists out there who are linking or just sitting and laughing at that like its the funniest thing they’ve ever seen.

They’re immoral and amoral, and is this really different or worse than hoping soldiers frag their officers, people threatening Malkin’s life and printing her home address or Deb Frisch threatening to molest Jeff Goldstein’s kid, or cheering for Michael Moore’s Minutemen who are blowing up markets full of civilians or calling for the destruction of Israel? Its par for the course, and what the core of the left is made of today.

I know I’m supposed to be shocked and Outraged!(TM) by this conduct, but I’ve seen too much of the left’s antics for far too long and am pretty well desensitized to it, and I’m younger than a lot of you…

Sorry if I’m being a downer.

Bad Candy on March 28, 2007 at 2:13 PM

The site is unavailable. We must have overloaded it. This is truly low.

CrimsonFisted on March 28, 2007 at 2:15 PM

I had told AP yesterday that I’m just not that surprised by this stuff anymore.

I guess I was wrong.

Intentional infliction of emotional distress claims set a pretty high bar, but I think this one vaulted it.

see-dubya on March 28, 2007 at 2:16 PM

I’m just glad Tony Snow has been able to get so deep under that bastard’s skin to cause such a seething reaction.

ha ha

JackM on March 28, 2007 at 2:17 PM

Must be you crimson, came up fine for me. That said, SOMEONE SCREENCAP IT BEFORE IT DISAPPEARS!

Bad Candy on March 28, 2007 at 2:20 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, your new Democrat party…

madmonaco on March 28, 2007 at 2:22 PM

Have they no shame. Unfortunately, BDS and rabies share some common symptoms. Just despicable.

Matticus Finch on March 28, 2007 at 2:23 PM

Have they no shame. Unfortunately, BDS and rabies share some common symptoms. Just despicable.

Matticus Finch on March 28, 2007 at 2:23 PM

Rabies can be fatal, unfortunately BDS has yet to be proven as such.

JackM on March 28, 2007 at 2:25 PM

Does this really surprise anyone?

I mean really, any of it?

Bad Candy on March 28, 2007 at 2:13 PM

No, it doesn’t. “Decency” and the left parted ways a long time ago.

thirteen28 on March 28, 2007 at 2:27 PM

Frankly, I’m really looking forward to running into someone wearing this TShirt.

Of course the dorks who buy this crap only wear it with their buddies while they play Dungeoms and Dragons.

there it is on March 28, 2007 at 2:28 PM

Both of those items just make me sick. What the hell is wrong with these people?

violet on March 28, 2007 at 2:40 PM

They torch effigies of US soldiers and crap on the American flag.

And control the U.S. House of Representatives.

RedWinged Blackbird on March 28, 2007 at 2:41 PM

Every day brings a new low.

JammieWearingFool on March 28, 2007 at 1:46 PM

It really does. It really truly does. I just don’t know how much more of the hate I can stand. I don’t like using the word “evil,” especially in politics … but this is evil.

And the fact that, ironically, such evil people are calling others evil (“Fox is evil! Tony Snow is evil!) is, I’m pretty sure, some classic projection.

I was really proud of (almost) all of you last week when the Elizabeth Edwards story popped up. All of this – Snow and Seipp and all the rest – just demonstrate that there IS a difference between us and them. There is. A big difference.

God bless you all. Really.

Speaking of God … one of the reasons I really want to believe in God, even at moments of doubt, is that I cling to the hope of real justice. These people need to get what they’ve given. They owe a massive karmic debt.

Sigh. I just can’t take the hate. I’m losing hope for humanity.

Professor Blather on March 28, 2007 at 2:43 PM

This is not political. This is a sickness at the human being level. These people have absolutely no sense of plain ordinary human decency and yet they would want to be trusted with governance? It is like Hannibal Lecter running a baby sitting service. I don’t want these people anywhere NEAR my children, my money, my police, my laws, anything. They are simply monsters. How can they be expected to treat a fellow countryman with any common respect and decency when their partisans show quite clearly that they don’t have any. They are disgusting and from looking at comments on left websites, typical.

crosspatch on March 28, 2007 at 2:50 PM

Who grows these kind of people?

Limerick on March 28, 2007 at 1:46 PM

Mushroom farmers. They grow in shit.

Kini on March 28, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Who grows these kind of people?

Limerick on March 28, 2007 at 1:46 PM

Mushroom farmers, they grow in poop

Kini on March 28, 2007 at 2:59 PM

Crosspatch, do remember that politics is the branch of philosophy that covers how people treat on another. Theses people have a sickness at their root that results in this sort of behavior.

bbz123 on March 28, 2007 at 3:01 PM

Who’s runs foxisevil.com?

Topsecretk9 on March 28, 2007 at 3:09 PM

This is a sickness at the human being level.

To put it simply, they’ve lost their humanity.

taznar on March 28, 2007 at 3:11 PM

And another thing … Tony Snow does not make policy nor does he enforce policy. He doesn’t propose legislation, he doesn’t make decisions on the execution of the mandates of any department. Tony Snow is basically a talking head. He delivers a message. This is yet another example of the rank and file Democrats demonstrating that failing a counter to the message, they attack the individual. It is basically terrorism. If they don’t like the message you communicate, they attack you personally. It is the same tactics used by bullies everywhere. You try to punish the person themselves and intimidate them into a different behavior and also prevent others from wanting to express a similar opinion.

It is no wonder the Democrats are allied with the terrorists, they use the same tactics.

crosspatch on March 28, 2007 at 3:21 PM

anyone need a lawyer? I’m studying defamation

Defector01 on March 28, 2007 at 3:28 PM

They are no longer afraid to announce to the world that they are horrible people. And yet they would want to teach our children, take care of our elderly, and govern our people. What a horrible group of monsters the Democrats have become. Absolutely horrible.

crosspatch on March 28, 2007 at 2:10 PM

Good enough to post again.

These are your bedfellows liberal trolls, the ones you defend day in and day out. I don’t know how you sleep. Oh yeah, you say “I am my own person”, and that relives you of your obligaton to castigate these monsters. They are there because you and your leaders support them.

right2bright on March 28, 2007 at 3:29 PM

Who’s runs foxisevil.com?

Topsecretk9 on March 28, 2007 at 3:09 PM

It is registered through a German site. I spent about 20 minutes doing whois lookups and googling a little but nothing that I saw indicated that this is a Democrat run operation sanctioned by an organized group.

Very tasteless I agree but lots of conclusions are being drawn out of pure smoke.

Bradky on March 28, 2007 at 3:31 PM

Very tasteless I agree but lots of conclusions are being drawn out of pure smoke.

I don’t think anyone is drawing any conclusions.

Slublog on March 28, 2007 at 3:32 PM

I don’t think anyone is drawing any conclusions.

Slublog on March 28, 2007 at 3:32 PM

I disagree.(1) It seems that the site registered through a European agency (2) Nothing that I could find through lookups would indicated that it is (a) necessarily run by Democrats (b) agreed with by all 72 million registered democrats in the US or (c) sanctioned by any official Democrat organizations

David Duke is a cancer that the Republicans disowned but he is still registered as a Republican — doesn’t justify painting all Republicans with the racist brush any more than what is being said about Democrats by some in the thread you referenced and in NRA’s comments above.

Why should Democrats at large expect any less than similar consideration?

The following at least sound like conclusions.

Ladies and gentlemen, your new Democrat party…
madmonaco on March 28, 2007 at 2:22 PM
No, it doesn’t. “Decency” and the left parted ways a long time ago.
thirteen28 on March 28, 2007 at 2:27 PM
And control the U.S. House of Representatives.
RedWinged Blackbird on March 28, 2007 at 2:41 PM
These are your bedfellows liberal trolls, the ones you defend day in and day out. I don’t know how you sleep. Oh yeah, you say “I am my own person”, and that relives you of your obligaton to castigate these monsters. They are there because you and your leaders support them.
right2bright on March 28, 2007 at 3:29 PM

Bradky on March 28, 2007 at 3:39 PM

It is no wonder the Democrats are allied with the terrorists, they use the same tactics.

crosspatch on March 28, 2007 at 3:21 PM

Forgot this jewel

Bradky on March 28, 2007 at 3:41 PM

David Duke?

Give me a break, Bradky. Normally, I find your comments interesting, but you’re being ridiculous here. Duke hasn’t been a player in the Republican party for years, and no one in the party takes him seriously.

The angry left that make up the netroots are different.

This t-shirt is entirely consistent with views expressed on multiple liberal websites any time a conservative or Republican comes down with a disease. The netroots have expressed some vile sentiments over the course of the Bush presidency, and no Democrat is willing to criticize them for it.

So guilt by association may not be fair, but until someone in the Democratic party has the frickin’ gumballs to sister souljah the vicious malcontent netroot contingent of their own base, they are going to be tarred by things like this.

Slublog on March 28, 2007 at 3:46 PM

I don’t understand your complaint, Bradky … are you saying the terrorists don’t use intimidation or are you saying the Democratic partisans don’t? They both do and there is plenty of evidence of it. Look at what one did on Cathy Seipp’s website in her final hours on this earth.

I am going to call it what it is … horrible. I have never seen any Republican partisans ever do anything of the sort. I have never seen Republican partisans ever say such horrible things about a Democrat striken with an illness or injury. Only Democrats do that as far as I have seen. What other conclusion could I draw?

Democrat partisans appear to be for the most part a lot of foul mouthed bullies that I wouldn’t want anywhere near my government.

crosspatch on March 28, 2007 at 3:47 PM

Notice that Bradky doesn’t condemn his co-religionists, but merely points fingers back at people taking notice of their monstrous actions and behavior.

That’s a big part of the problem, Bradky. It’s like if someone claims to be a moderate muslim, say, but knows that the outrageous behavior of those ‘fringe elements’ eats away effectively at those you oppose. So you actually support it rather than openly condemn it and distance yourself from it.

More than a passing similarity between the jihadists and their propaganda machines and the democrat party and theirs. In fact, as soon as the radical left starts actually killing people, rather than just dreaming and fantasizing about it, they’ll be functionally identical in both ideology and tactic.

That should make you uncomfortable, Bradky. But I doubt that it does.

techno_barbarian on March 28, 2007 at 3:51 PM

The likes of Eliot Stein do not surprise me. That the Internet gives such people a larger stage and an easier chance at garnering the limelight for a period of time is unfortunate, but part of what makes the Internet what it is. Look to the tremendous outpouring of sympathy, from the left and right, for Cathy Seipp’s death and ask, “When the Eliot Stein’s of the world arrive at the moment of their death, who gathers to grieve?”

Like a toddler with a hammer, Eliot Stein has but one way to communicate with the world and carries around in his little head a sense of entitlement of the worst kind. And when the world doesn’t pay up, out comes the hammer.

Actually, it’s not so much a hammer as it is a putty knife.

GPE on March 28, 2007 at 4:03 PM

Bradky, you yourself just pointed out the obvious – “David Duke is a cancer that the Republicans disowned” – whether or not he registers as a Republican is his choice. The Dems, on the other hand, rarely disown any of their fringe nutjobs. In fact, these nutjobs continue to be very influential within the Dem party (See Hollywood, Kos, HuffPo, Pandagon, etc.).

Whether or not the foxisevil site is “registered” through a European agency doesn’t really matter. Especially when they stand for the following:

Had enough of the lies, propaganda, and blind conservative opinion stories being offered as legitimate news?
Tired of Rupert Murdoch’s campaign to brainwash the World?
Fed up with the current administration and their disdain for the average American?
Sick of watching George and his militia break our fundamental Constitutional rights and make up their own to further their Dictatorship regime?
Do you think that Bush and Fox ARE rolling back American progress and pushing us towards global war and death?
Well… Me too.
Stop Fox from perpetuating Bush’s lies, Bush’s crimes, and Bush’s indifference for the truth.

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Rick on March 28, 2007 at 4:09 PM

It is no wonder the Democrats are allied with the terrorists, they use the same tactics.

crosspatch on March 28, 2007 at 3:21 PM
Forgot this jewel

Bradky on March 28, 2007 at 3:41 PM

Apples and oranges, Bradky. I don’t see how you can compare what crosspatch and others have commented to the horrible crap on foxisevil.

Rick on March 28, 2007 at 4:14 PM

I have watched just about every White House Press Briefing since Tony Snow became Press Secretary.

I have seen him, almost daily, take abusive questioning from the likes of Helen Thomas and David Gregory, and respond with grace and dignity and class.

And still, privately, he speaks very highly of them.

I agree with crosspatch. The people who say such things are monsters.

dinasour on March 28, 2007 at 4:20 PM

Looks more like a cry for help, to me.

Po’Bastards

franksalterego on March 28, 2007 at 4:25 PM

I’ve been fighting this battle since Lee Atwater. Anyone that says the Democrats aren’t filled with some of the most inhuman hate possible, is either intellectually dishonest or doesn’t actually know many Democrats. The same urge that causes them to celebrate one opponent’s cancer causes them to burn effigies of soldiers and dismiss the slaughter of Cambodians in the past and Iraqis in the future.

TBinSTL on March 28, 2007 at 4:33 PM

I wish I were a cartoonist, I could get the idea across better. Imagine if we had “universal” health care. Now imagine a picture where you see someone hunched over a keyboard typing things like “I hope you die a horrible and painful death” … and the next frame shows them reporting for work at a government health care facility. Get the drift? There is a difference between two people who in their heart want what is best for this country but differ in opinion on the path to take to get there and people who simply hate people with a different opinion. The first group can find a middle path that gives each side a little of what they want and provides a path each can live with but neither thinks is perfect. The latter sees the world in completely black/white terms, it is all their way or nothing. If you are on the bad side, then you are completely bad … personally bad. That kind of thinking creates conflict and is self destructive. It isn’t sustainable. The collective behavior I see at places like Huffington Post and Daily Kos, if exhibited by an individual, would probably lead to a diagnosis of a personality disorder.

crosspatch on March 28, 2007 at 4:33 PM

Here’s a little black and white:
This excuse for a human being deserves the tables to be turned on him/her/it. The t-shirt web site doesn’t deserve to be linked but s/he has an email address posted on the site. There is a page where the cherry picked “Hate Mail” is displayed (along with the sale link for these disgraceful t-shirts.) I think it might be a good idea to fill his inbox WITHOUT giving the site any additional traffic.

If you agree here is his/her/its address: [email protected].
If you don’t want to waste time actually writing anything just fill up the body of the “letter” with “x’s” maybe throw in a few choice words if you’re moved to do so: xxxxxxxx I’ll be praying for your agonizing demise…xxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx…die in a (one car) firey crash…xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx…industrial accident… xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxx…horribly maimed and disfigured…xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx…

I know this is stooping to their level and I may end up next to him/her in hell. That’s a risk I’m willing to take. I just know that if I didn’t vent a little I was in for a massive headache and unbelievable agita. Thanks, I feel better now.

NightmareOnKStreet on March 28, 2007 at 5:03 PM

“I know this is stooping to their level”

That is EXACTLY what it is and I really don’t think people here would do it. Why give them ammunition or any reason to say “See, the right does it too!”. It’s wrong, no matter who does it. Just because they do it doesn’t mean we have to and if we decide not to it doesn’t mean they are “winning” in any way. If they want to smear themselves with crap, it doesn’t mean we have to do the same to remain “even” with them.

crosspatch on March 28, 2007 at 5:07 PM

Allah, if a lawsuit does get filed against that bastard and they need financial support, just tell me where to send my donation.

JadeNYU on March 28, 2007 at 2:01 PM

Seconded.

Alex K on March 28, 2007 at 5:10 PM

Why not kill ’em and get it over with. Civil war is just what this country needs ‘to clear the air’ so to speak. I could use the exercise.

Griz on March 28, 2007 at 5:17 PM

Slublog on March 28, 2007 at 3:46 PM

Rick on March 28, 2007 at 4:09 PM

You both seem to misunderstand my point. So let’s start with what we agree on:
(1)The t-shirt thing was way over the top and tasteless
(2)There are more bombastic leftie websites with really off the wall things than there are on the right

Now my two questions for you are:

(1) Do you honestly believe that the majority of Democrats (not the elected officials but fellow citizens like us) are of this ilk, are traitors, and want to see the country fall?
(2) Do you want the Republicans to win the White House and majority in one or both houses in the next election?

If your answer is yes to the first question, then it is pointless to debate any further.
If your answer is no to the first and yes to the second question, then I submit the opinion that to roll in the mud drives away the moderate Democrats. If you want them to step out of their comfort zone of what they usually vote, I don’t think painting all Democrats as traitors or the like will be a successful strategy. While neither of you have painted with this broad brush I think you have seen many on the right who have. These comments are regularly reposted in leftie sites by the “fringe” elements to paint Republicans as this big monolithic intolerant party.

my .02

Bradky on March 28, 2007 at 5:23 PM

Who’s runs foxisevil.com?

Topsecretk9 on March 28, 2007 at 3:09 PM
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Whois for foxisevil.com from registrar whois.schlund.info

registrant-firstname: Oneandone

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registrant-street1: 701 Lee Road, Suite 300

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registrant-state: PA

registrant-city: Chesterbrook

registrant-ccode: US

registrant-phone: +1.8772064254

registrant-email: [email protected]
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Foxisevil.com IP=72.232.46.90

Foxisevil’s ISP

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georgej on March 28, 2007 at 5:59 PM

georgej on March 28, 2007 at 5:59 PM

Sweet.

reaganaut on March 28, 2007 at 6:07 PM

Bradky wrties:

(1) Do you honestly believe that the majority of Democrats (not the elected officials but fellow citizens like us) are of this ilk, are traitors, and want to see the country fall?

I believe that between 15% and 25% of people who call themselves “Democrats” hate George W. Bush so much that they are willing to see AMERICA fail in Iraq if it brings down Bush. I believe that for these people, whatever the percentage actually is, getting Bush is more important that winning the war in Iraq. So, yes, I classify these people as traitors

I believe that the leadership of the Demcratic Party has been sabotaging the war to further the partisan goals of the party. So, I definately classify them as traitors.

Happy?

georgej on March 28, 2007 at 6:09 PM

Looks to me that foxisevil is actually hosted by jadedpixel.com on one of their “shopify” servers.

crosspatch on March 28, 2007 at 6:31 PM

I believe that the majority of active Democrat partisans that are the most vocal are that way. Look how Pelosi has bent over backwards. Look what they did to Lieberman who they were running for VP not so long ago. The nuts have a lot of influence in the Democratic party, and it shows.

crosspatch on March 28, 2007 at 6:35 PM

1) Do you honestly believe that the majority of Democrats (not the elected officials but fellow citizens like us) are of this ilk, are traitors, and want to see the country fall?

When did I ever use the word “traitors?”

Quote me.

Slublog on March 28, 2007 at 7:11 PM

If your answer is no to the first and yes to the second question, then I submit the opinion that to roll in the mud drives away the moderate Democrats. If you want them to step out of their comfort zone of what they usually vote, I don’t think painting all Democrats as traitors or the like will be a successful strategy. While neither of you have painted with this broad brush I think you have seen many on the right who have. These comments are regularly reposted in leftie sites by the “fringe” elements to paint Republicans as this big monolithic intolerant party.

Ah, I see I misread the first part of your post.

So are you saying that because some conservatives use the word traitors it’s okay for liberals to wish death upon those with whom they disagree?

Slublog on March 28, 2007 at 7:15 PM

So are you saying that because some conservatives use the word traitors it’s okay for liberals to wish death upon those with whom they disagree?

Slublog on March 28, 2007 at 7:15 PM

Of course not and I don’t believe that I implied that in any fashion. I take it your answers to my questions were no and yes respectively.
As I mentioned, I am interested in results and the strategy to get there. The more that Republicans at large act mature and speak out to its own members to discourage the use of blanket terms, the better chance of appealing to the moderates. Why were the Democrats been in the wilderness for 12 years in the house? I think partly because the vocal minority turned enough voters off that they couldn’t pull the D lever. Last year followed an historical trend for two term presidents – and to be fair the elected Republican representatives did little to show themselves as a better option.
And as a side note did you catch Griz’s comment?

Why not kill ‘em and get it over with. Civil war is just what this country needs ‘to clear the air’ so to speak. I could use the exercise.

Griz on March 28, 2007 at 5:17 PM

GeorgeJ

I believe that between 15% and 25% of people who call themselves “Democrats” hate George W. Bush so much that they are willing to see AMERICA fail in Iraq if it brings down Bush. I believe that for these people, whatever the percentage actually is, getting Bush is more important that winning the war in Iraq. So, yes, I classify these people as traitors

I believe that the leadership of the Demcratic Party has been sabotaging the war to further the partisan goals of the party. So, I definately classify them as traitors.

Happy?

georgej on March 28, 2007 at 6:09 PM

I am glad you expressed this as an opinion. I disagree with any numbers over 15%. But that is my opinion as well. The question for you is “Which group do you have the best chance of convincing that the Republicans better represent their interests; the “15-25%” or the moderate Democrats? If you think moderates is the one, do you think throwing out terms like Democrats are traitors is going to convince them?
It is about the desired results.

Bradky on March 28, 2007 at 7:47 PM

“NightmareOnKStreet on March 28, 2007 at 5:03 PM”

I sent a decently worded email (I agree with crosspatch about not getting in the mud with this person). I feel much better.

All the techie stuff I don’t get but it seems to mean something to most of you. I hope it’s something good.

Bradky: It’s not only the blogs that are nasty and vicious. It’s what is coming out of the Hollywood types and the Democratic leadership. Just so you don’t think I live under a conservative rock, one of my good friends and she is gay, told me that the worst thing that in her opinion happened to lesbians is the L Word on Showtime. I’m pretty sure she said that it’s not only vulgar but attacks conservatives pretty regularly, viciously and with a tone of moral superiority. The hypocrisy is that she says they engage in behavior that is pornographic and use language that is so vulgar that she and other lesbians she knows are offended! So I guess I’m also indirectly agreeing with you in that she is more liberal and a Democrat but she doesn’t like that type of hate filled speech. Unfortunately, these aren’t the Democrats who are being given the microphone. Can you point me to or quote any conservative celebrities who have used the profanity laden, hate filled and traitorous speech liberal celebrities have?

CCRWM on March 28, 2007 at 7:50 PM

Of course not and I don’t believe that I implied that in any fashion. I take it your answers to my questions were no and yes respectively.

Actually they would be “no” and “indifferent.” While I trend Republican because I’m a conservative, I vote based on issues, not on party affiliation. As for speaking out against their own members, conservatives often offer strong criticism for stupid things said by their ideological bretheren – Coulter, Limbaugh, Lott, DeLay, Armey and Atwater have all been targets of criticism by people in their own party.

I have yet to see a Democrat or a prominent liberal decry the verbal excesses of Kos or someone like Michael Moore.

Slublog on March 28, 2007 at 7:53 PM

CCRWM on March 28, 2007 at 7:50 PM
Can you point me to or quote any conservative celebrities who have used the profanity laden, hate filled and traitorous speech liberal celebrities have?

I have yet to see a Democrat or a prominent liberal decry the verbal excesses of Kos or someone like Michael Moore.

Slublog on March 28, 2007 at 7:53 PM

CCRW: No and Slublog: I don’t expect to see anyone of prominence reel them in. And I understand your “indifferent” answer but realistically in 2008 your choices are probably going to come down to a Republican and either Clinton or Obama. Who most closely represents your interests?

Recall that in 92 Perot played the independent role and played a large part in Clinton’s election win. Were the 8 years of him satisfactory to you?

Bradky on March 28, 2007 at 8:28 PM

And I understand your “indifferent” answer but realistically in 2008 your choices are probably going to come down to a Republican and either Clinton or Obama. Who most closely represents your interests?

Giuliani – widely regarded as a centrist/liberal Republican – best represents my interests. What exactly does this have to do with the issue at hand?

Slublog on March 28, 2007 at 8:40 PM

Here is the link to Eliot Stein’s website where he justifies his own inexcusable actions.

Buy Danish on March 28, 2007 at 8:40 PM

Oh, and no – I wasn’t a big Clinton fan. I did have hope at first, but he managed to squander or ignore most of the big problems that he had the political capital to solve.

Slublog on March 28, 2007 at 8:41 PM

CCRW: No and Slublog: I don’t expect to see anyone of prominence reel them in. And I understand your “indifferent” answer but realistically in 2008 your choices are probably going to come down to a Republican and either Clinton or Obama. Who most closely represents your interests?

Recall that in 92 Perot played the independent role and played a large part in Clinton’s election win. Were the 8 years of him satisfactory to you?

Bradky on March 28, 2007 at 8:28 PM

I’d would argue that the number of outright traitors and those who would cheer them on is a bit larger than your estimated 15%, but that’s just my opinion. I honestly have no idea how a real number could be acertained. While the radical left may be a minority in the democratic party, they are a very vocal and apparently powerful minority that seems to demonstrably have firm control and influence over the party. Just look at the voting record of the dems in the House and Senate.

I’ve read, stepped back, and thought about your posts above, and I owe you an appology for my earlier comment lumping you in with radical leftists. I have not changed my opinion about them, but your posts have caused me to change my opinion about you. I spoke too hastily.

techno_barbarian on March 28, 2007 at 11:02 PM

Here is the link to Eliot Stein’s website where he justifies his own inexcusable actions.

Buy Danish on March 28, 2007 at 8:40 PM

I thought when I read the original Fox article about this that this buffoon is really full of himself.

Looking at his web site just confirms it.

91Veteran on March 28, 2007 at 11:07 PM

Bradky I’m hoping that Newt Gingrich runs. All the Republicans have somewhat the same baggage so I would go with Newt because he won’t be bowed over, bullied and seems to be the most well rounded politically (foreign and domestically).

CCRWM on March 28, 2007 at 11:19 PM

Oh and if you were asking between Clinton and Obama. Clinton might better represent my interest though the thought of her and Bill for another 8 years makes me depressed. I can’t find anything significant about Obama’s accomplisments and don’t understand why he’s suddenly all that and a bag of chips???

CCRWM on March 28, 2007 at 11:23 PM

Who grows these kind of people?

Limerick on March 28, 2007 at 1:46 PM

Answer: People with no morals who have taken positions as schoolteachers, legislators, and ACLU lawyers. When there is no right or wrong, and all truth is subjective, what is wrong with laughing about someone you don’t like getting cancer? These oh so tolerant people must justify their moral void by passing it on to the next generation.

JustTruth101 on March 29, 2007 at 12:05 AM

Well I hate to go out on a limb, but as funny diseases go, cancer isn’t in the top 1000.

Leprosy, Tourette’s, narcolepsy, pripism….

Anything for a buck I guess. Awful.

honora on March 29, 2007 at 3:57 PM

pripism

Heh. Just the word.

Ahem…sorry.

Slublog on March 29, 2007 at 4:08 PM

I bet Rosie was the first to place an order for this T. She probably had to special order seeing that XXL was the largest they sold.

Sick!…just plain sick. Savage is right, “Liberalism IS a mental disorder”.

silenced majority on March 29, 2007 at 5:16 PM