The moon god of Islam, though popular, is particularly vulnerable to the information age. It’s no big leap to envision a world where Islam simply loses steam and fizzles out. For women in particular who are horribly mistreated in Islamic countries the end of Islam would be a welcome sight indeed. It won’t happen in our or our children’s generation but I think it’s inevitable that it will happen.

Mojave Mark on March 28, 2007 at 12:49 AM

It’ll definitely happen at the day of judgment. Many of these ancient Near Eastern gods lasted several thousand years.

If we weren’t in such a rush to cut and run, we might understand that. But unfortunately one of our major parties here at home has declared and insurgency of its own. (Too bad we don’t have any allies who would come to our aid.) I think that, in time, the American people will also realize who really cares about their safety and turn against the insurgents, but, as I say, it takes time.

The moon god of Islam, though popular, is particularly vulnerable to the information age. It’s no big leap to envision a world where Islam simply loses steam and fizzles out. For women in particular who are horribly mistreated in Islamic countries the end of Islam would be a welcome sight indeed. It won’t happen in our or our children’s generation but I think it’s inevitable that it will happen.

Originally, yes, but they have diverged more over the years. The Shiites, for example, mark their graves with headstones or other monuments like we do, the Sunnis think that is wrong and call the shiites “grave worshipers”. The Shiites have a concept of “temporary marriage” which the Sunnis see as simply an institutionalized form of prostitution or allowance for adultery.

So there are quite a lot of differences between the two besides simply the line of succession of the Caliph.

Salafis are what the followers of Wahhabi would call themselves. A quick paste from Wikipedia:

‘The term “Wahhabi” (Wahhābīya) is rarely used by members of this group. The term they use to describe themselves is “muwahhidun”, translating as “unitarians.” Another common term used is “Salafi,” translating as “followers of the pious forefathers,” ‘

All these bogus states that the Brits created; was it their last laugh for giving up their empire? Speaking of–I question Iraq’s right to exist. Kidding, but hey, why should Israel be the only one?

I am going to have to wait for the HBO mini-series that replaces the “Sopranos” to follow the crime family here.

Maybe we should call it the “1920 Revolution Brigades”….

Cue the music….

Riehl World View

Allah’s post on Iraq leads in two possible directions. One suggests Red on Red fighting could open up a wedge for the US to exploit, the other deals with the notion of partitioning Iraq. Partioning might be a temporary fix but it’s …

and PRCalDude, I’m very familiar with taquiya, thank you. It’s the “idjithad” that’s new. Frankly, Arabic, especially as it applies to Islam, is not a language I ever wanted to know and still don’t. Screw them and their idiotic concepts.
I did some Googling on the web and “idjithad” seems to be the Islamic (mostly Sunni) promotion of independent scholarly thought whose goal is to arrive back at the same place as the views held by the doctrinaire crowd.
IOW, it’s a pretense of encouraging free thought while doing the opposite.

NeverSubmit on March 27, 2007 at 9:36 PM

It’s apparently too much to ask that people read anything these days. Robert Spencer vlogs here once a week, and nobody heeds him. If we could at least get conservatives to wake up…

That would be Mohammad’s solution.

These are Machiavellian despots who want power to institute their own warped brand of the vicious dogmas of a pedophile warlord.

There’s no hope until they leave Islam.

(Or until Islam leaves our lovely Earth.)

Mentally, they’re there already.

Gone…

I think I’m as frustrated with the ignorance of Jen the Neocon as you are, she just doesn’t get it. She sounds like an apologist to me, maybe even a troll. Islam will not reform, not now or ever! Jen get a clue!

Al-Zubaie was himself seriously wounded in an assassination attempt earlier this week which Iraqi sources believe was an inside job perpetrated by a relative.

This comports with Robert Spencer and his assertion that the religion condones murder of family if it will further the interests of Islam.

On Saturday Rusty reported some difficulty we are having with Google Video rejecting our videos. I had uploaded the video because I wanted to report on the break-down of support for al-Qaeda and their front group, the Islamic State of……

You toss off these Islamic concepts as if they were settled when I would suggest to you that they’re not–these views are different depending on whether one is Sunni, Shi’a, Salafi or Waahab.
This is the root of the sectarian fights between them and it has been thus since the 8th Century when Mohammed died and his succession was disputed.
Iraq is now a democracy that is trying to be a place where all Muslims can live in peace and that is what the fight is about now, because while U.S., British and other Allied soldiers have been killed and injured, the primary deaths and casualties have been the Iraqis themselves and it seems even these local Sunni warlords have had enough.
They are making noises that they’d rather give up their jihad and stop killing their fellow Iraqis and fellow Muslims than pursue the takfiri fight for strictly religious reasons and the promise of their 72 virgins in paradise.

Jen the Neocon on March 27, 2007 at 8:46 PM

This quote deserves to be debunked in full.

Sunnism and Shi’ism is an argument about succession.
Salafism and Wahabism are strains of Sunnism.

All four schools of Sunni jurisprudence and both schools of Shia jurisprudence teach violent jihad. There are a tiny minority of Muslims who believe in some form of secular Islam, but they are persecuted and always lose. Anybody Muslim who tells you otherwise is practicing taqiyya, another term you ought to familiarize yourself with. You really ought to buy ‘The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam’ and read it before making these statements.

The Sunni warlords have had enough – of al Queda. Al Queda is a challenge to their power. They themselves will become the next sponsors of jihad once the dust settles. We’re running into the same problem the British ran into when they took Mesopotamia from Turkey in the 1920s. It’s history, repeating itself: http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015806.php#more

Handing of responsibility of orderly governance of regions to puppets of Iran and the Saudis may at least force them to treat Iraqis as real people and not just instruments to cause pain to the US. Perhaps we can retain on the ground presence in the Kurdish areas. If we wait for the inevitable disaster we won’t likely have time to make such arrangements.

“Yes, the Iraqi constitution states that no law made may contradict shari’ah.”

This may be what it says, but that doesn’t amount to “enshrining shari’ah.”

Ijtihad is the scholar consensus regarding the Qur’an and Sunnah. When I say, “the gates of ijtihad are closed,” I’m using an Islamic term to say, “the gates of scholarly consensus are closed.” It’s been this way since about 1000 AD. Google ‘ijtihad,’ you’ll see.

You toss off these Islamic concepts as if they were settled when I would suggest to you that they’re not–these views are different depending on whether one is Sunni, Shi’a, Salafi or Waahab.
This is the root of the sectarian fights between them and it has been thus since the 8th Century when Mohammed died and his succession was disputed.
Iraq is now a democracy that is trying to be a place where all Muslims can live in peace and that is what the fight is about now, because while U.S., British and other Allied soldiers have been killed and injured, the primary deaths and casualties have been the Iraqis themselves and it seems even these local Sunni warlords have had enough.
They are making noises that they’d rather give up their jihad and stop killing their fellow Iraqis and fellow Muslims than pursue the takfiri fight for strictly religious reasons and the promise of their 72 virgins in paradise.

Our Troops today took out two truck bombs … not much on the news about it. Thank God they stopped this attack and thanks to HotAir and Lucianne and other internet for gettin’ the word out, doin’ the job the enemedia won’t do.