McConnell: GOP won’t filibuster Senate Dems’ Iraq bill; Update: Nutroots targeting McConnell in ‘08
posted at 7:14 pm on March 26, 2007 by Allahpundit
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The Senate bill differs slightly from the House bill that passed on Friday, notably in the fact that the deadline for final withdrawal — March 31, 2008 versus August 31, 2008 — is a goal, not an absolute requirement. The GOP killed it 11 days ago, 50-48, but Reid’s going to try again with extra benchmarks built into this one in hopes of getting Ben Nelson and Mark Prior, the two Democrats who voted no last time, to come around. Nelson says he’ll vote yes this time; Pryor’s still wavering. His vote would make it 50-49, which would decide the issue (Tim Johnson is the lone absentee). To filibuster or not to filibuster?
Not this time, says Mitch McConnell.
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said Monday he will try to block a Democratic effort to force troop withdrawal but won’t stand in the way of the Iraq spending bill that would contain it because he knows President Bush would veto the package.
“Our goal is to pass it quickly,” said McConnell, R-Ky. “Our troops need the money.”
Unable to override Bush’s veto, Democrats would have to redraft the bill without a “surrender deadline,” he said…
The Senate will vote as early as Tuesday on a Republican amendment to strip the withdrawal language from the bill.
Does the logic here fly, though? The war funds are set to run out next month; the Democrats know they’re on the clock. If McConnell’s looking to kill it quickly and send Reid and Pelosi back to the drawing board for a clean bill, a filibuster should be as good as a veto. Better, in fact, since there’ll be no delay involved in sending it to the White House. What this is really about, presumably, is the GOP not wanting to advertise its opposition to withdrawal any more than it already has, so they’re going to let it sail through and make Bush administer the coup de grace this time.
Hey — that’s what lame ducks are for.
FYI, the timetable appears to be the sticking point for Pryor. If he actually has the stones to vote no and deny the Dems the political windfall of a Bush veto, we might have to have Mark Pryor Day here at Hot Air.
Update: No wonder Mac doesn’t want his fingerprints on the Senate bill.
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this is the senate version of “bring it on”
Defector01 on March 26, 2007 at 7:15 PM
HAHA!!
Theworldisnotenough on March 26, 2007 at 7:20 PM
McConnell is counting on a pair of things that are less-than-certain:
- The ‘Rats not wanting immediate defeat. That money is going to run out next month, and if it isn’t replenished, they will claim (with significant presstitute support) that the Pubbies stood in the way of an “orderly drawdown”
- That President Bush will veto this. I hate to think that he wouldn’t veto it, but I could’ve swore I heard McConnell’s promises before, specifically from Trent Lott about CFR (or as I call it, McShame-Slimeroad Lieberal Protection Act).
steveegg on March 26, 2007 at 7:29 PM
The President could veto it with one swipe of his pen, the same day. A fillibuster would take a while, only delay the President striking it down.
Basically, I think either tactic will work.
amerpundit on March 26, 2007 at 7:30 PM
And as I said, if the Dems fail to fund the troops, their majority in Congress will be extremely short lived.
amerpundit on March 26, 2007 at 7:31 PM
Very skillful on McConnell’s part.
Zorro on March 26, 2007 at 7:44 PM
Sorry. If that is an accurate quote, I don’t see him shying away from advertising opposition to withdrawal at all. In fact, I wish more of them would be this honest.
SailorDave on March 26, 2007 at 7:47 PM
I say save the fight for another day. Let the General beat back the left kooks this time.
SouthernGent on March 26, 2007 at 7:48 PM
Even if President Bush is going to veto this bill I want to see some damn Republicans stand up and fight. Hell it is easy to kick the can down the road but don’t they get it in Washington? We want leaders, real leaders. I keep hoping the ghost of Reagan will visit some of these jellyfish politicians. It seems like the only time they show some stones is when they are talking against our country and feigning outrage and demanding investigations for every little thing.
Instead reading management books somebody needs to send them to an NCO academy for about 4 weeks to learn how to be leaders. There is a difference!
LakeRuins on March 26, 2007 at 8:03 PM
Regarding the update – you’re reading too much into Upchuck Schumer’s threats. He’s threatened all 21 Pubbies that are up for re-election in 2008.
steveegg on March 26, 2007 at 8:13 PM
I’m sure the nutroots will be above board and not make cheap cracks about his wife’s ethnicity. Respect for diversity and all that.
JammieWearingFool on March 26, 2007 at 8:18 PM
Allow me to supply the </sarcasm> tag to properly close that off :-)
steveegg on March 26, 2007 at 8:23 PM
Thanks, stevegg. I’ll keep an eye on that race.
JammieWearingFool on March 26, 2007 at 8:31 PM
I think what you missed in your ananysis is that the timetable for defeat bill is like a hot potato. If it is stuck in a Republican filibuster then the Dems say that is the cause of money running out and there is no need for a new bill. A Veto is definitive. It says you need a new bill and gives the potato back to dems.
Resolute on March 26, 2007 at 9:49 PM
And this is what it comes down to. A once great nation,in the midst of a long-term war for its very existence, is reduced to betting on which political parties machinations and parlor games will work best to decide on how quickest and best to kill us all, but still make as much money as we can in the meantime.
Won’t do me any good in the long term, but I am proud of my decision to be an independent. The Republican and Democratic parties disgust me beyond all words and description.
Should we, at least in some semblance, survive what they will bring upon us in the not too distant future through their selfishness, deceit, and cowardice,the first act of any America that rises from the ashes should be to disallow any resurrection of the Republican or Democratic parties, upon pain of death.
tomk59 on March 26, 2007 at 10:34 PM
The children in charge of the Kindergarten in D.C. are now on full display.
Entelechy on March 26, 2007 at 10:49 PM
tomk: What did the Republicans do that is wrong here? Give me a break with your moral equivilence.
The Army loses it’s money on April 15. Period. The Republicans are determined to make sure that funding is reauthorized.. this must be done within two weeks.
They’re not playing games.. the Democrats of course are all about playing games.. and now we’re at the mercy of the Democrats bi-polarity.
Put the blame where it belongs instead of blowing your wad all over the palce.
VinceP1974 on March 26, 2007 at 10:51 PM
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This is why he’s not gonna ‘buster it. Obviously McConnell can’t say this, but he’s gonna let the Surrender Coalition pass their bills, let the Pres veto exactly because it’ll take more time, and the Surrender Coalition will either be forced to pass a no-strings or maybe very limited strings attached bill(given how much pork they had to throw in to get their bill), or flounder and not get anywhere, and then get bludgeoned for not getting the military the money they need.
People aren’t happy with Iraq, but they aren’t about to take the Surrender Coalition denying the military funds because they’re trying to force withdrawal and tag the loss on Bush and the GOP.
Bad Candy on March 26, 2007 at 10:52 PM
Kentucy is like Missouri……depends on what side of the bed they wake up on election morning. Don’t get offended Kentucky (great state) but the dole-vote could rear it’s ugly head and McConnell would be gone. The Mason Dixon line has always been a problem with both parties…West Virginia,
Kentucky, Missouri…..red-blue schizophrenia.
As far as not filibustering….bullpucky….this ‘Bush will cover our butt’ logic is like letting your platoon leader walk into a sniper because he is a good ducker. Fight the bastards. What a wise and grand strategy to give the Dems another ‘victory’ in the MSM.
Limerick on March 26, 2007 at 11:07 PM
Speaking of blowing wads,VinceP , wipe your chin off and get a grip. Moral equivalence? What part of independent don’t you get?Republicans, Democrats, all the same crap. All for themselves, their little games, and the party, above all. And if that gets the rest of us killed who gives a damn.
And do yourself a favor. Lose the all or nothing allegiance to the party; there may be different degrees and tactics,but at the end of the day it’s two peas in the same pod, and everybody loses.
For what it’s worth to you, I vote Republican, I agree with them on most issues, I’m just disgusted with their politics and gutless garbage and their inability to stand up to the obvious gutless garbage that goes on with the other side. A while back I decided that under no circumstances even if they were running against Satan would I ever again even so much as consider voting for a Democrat.
But, not knowing me, anything about me, or even my point that I was expressing above, maybe this will clear it up for you.
And if it doesn’t, you can kiss my ass.
tomk59 on March 26, 2007 at 11:10 PM
Limerick-
No offense taken. ;) As a life long Kentuckian with ancestral roots going back to when Kentucky was three counties of Virginia I can certainly appreciate your “red-blue schizophrenia” comment. Kentuckians are viciously independent in their thinking. We have a tendency sometimes to take a contrary position just because we don’t like the messenger. ;) There is one thing about Kentuckians that Chuckie Schumer cannot possibly understand and the nutroots…even our own nutroots…haven’t wrapped their pointy little heads around. We love our Commonwealth and the Union she’s a part of. The VAST majority of Kentuckians(not just the folks in Lexington and Louisville) want to win this war in grand style.
If they trot out a Democrat to run against Mitch, I don’t know who it might be. The only politically surviving member of the Patton administration has just gotten over a health scare as she sat in the State Auditor’s office(Crit Luallen). I don’t think she will go after Mitch. Paul Patton, former Governor, would still suffer mightily from his bit of horizontal dancing. There’s the Speaker of the House, Jody Richards, who has tried a couple times for Governor with less than admirable results. Greg Stumbo, our current Attorney General, has a long LONG list of Bill Clinton-esque adventures to deal with. So who is it going to be? The next Governor? That list is long but they will be going up against Ann Northup, former Congresswoman from Louisville.(I don’t think Ernie Fletcher has a prayer of getting re-elected).
If there is a candidate out there I don’t know who it would be. Whoever it is, they will have to appeal to both the mountain folks in the east and the rural Agricultural folks in the west as well as the Lexington and Louisville cityfolk. Good luck with that.
Kentuckians want to win this war. Any candidate who seems to side with the Dhimmi position will run into much MUCH static in my Commonwealth.
Hunters of Kentucky
- Samuel Woodworth
…
But Jackson, he was wide awake,
And was not scared of trifles;
For well he knew what aim we take
With our Kentucky rifles;
He led us down to Cypress Swamp,
The ground was low and mucky;
There stood John Bull in pomp,
And here was old Kentucky.
Chorus
Oh, Kentucky, The hunters of Kentucky
Oh, Kentucky, The hunters of Kentucky
A bank was rais’d to hide our breast,
Not that we thought of dying,
But that we always like to rest,
Unless the game is flying;
Behind it stood our little force
None wished it to be greater,
For ev’ry man was half a horse,
And half an alligator.
Be Proud Kentucky.
Pilgrim on March 27, 2007 at 12:47 AM
Ass kissing is a tough act to follow but I’ll try.
Either way the money for the troops doesn’t get authorized, and this is the Dem’s ace in the hole. They’re counting on everyone being too interested in Gonzales-gate to notice what they’re up to, and they’ll keep on with their “the President won’t sign the spending bill authorizing money for the troops,” talking point, which people only paying half attention won’t see through. Veto or on veto, they can keep this bill bouncing around in committee limbo for heaven knows how long. And with this new offensive (see the Stakalog) on the line, a delay of even weeks is a very bad thing.
It’s time for Joementum to stand up and make his voice heard on this subject–and everyone should be glomming onto Koppel’s great formulation from last week–you’ve got it backwards; if they can’t meet the benchmarks, we leave just when they need our help; if they do meet the benchmarks we stay? Huh? That’s the kind of common sense the American people can relate too.
And I’d still like to see the momentum from the Gathering of Eagles be capitalized on. As much as Vietnam vets didn’t want to see the memorials defaced; as much as they wanted to make the kind of statement of support for the troops that they never got, I can’t believe they want to live the nightmare of watching the Democrats snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory all over again. I know this crowd isn’t the type to march around carrying signs–too much association with the anti-war 60’s demonstrations, perhaps–but now the ice has been broken. The poll numbers must be swung around to the side of support for the war, and this requires the silent majority standing up and being counted. It’s the only way out of this. If the numbers swing in favor of the war, the opportunistic Dems will run from their current positions pell mell, like cockroaches scattering when you turn on the light (in NYC). There are a lot of the pieces in place, because of the GOE–and blogs which can spread the word like wildfire. It’s got to come from the people; the politicians WILL NOT get it done.
/Soapbox>
smellthecoffee on March 27, 2007 at 12:49 AM
Well…of course there’s Ben Chandler. He’s currently the Congressman from Central Kentucky. He would be about the only shot they have of taking Mitch’s seat in the Senate and that would be a pretty good fight.
I think it’s important to note, however, that he sucked up to the DNC in his run for Governor and lost….bad. If he runs for the Senate he should probably back away from the DNC but if he does that he’ll lose their money. Lose, Lose.
Pilgrim on March 27, 2007 at 12:51 AM
Pilgrim: All is good. I heart Kentucky….one of the most beeeeeeutiful states I was ever a resident of (although briefly).
Praise God and pass the ammunition!
Limerick on March 27, 2007 at 1:03 AM
SmellTheCoffee-yeah,kissin’ass is a tough act to follow, but you did a great job. You make great points, but I’m especially interested in the second half of your post. In particular, how do we the people bring such things about?
tomk59 on March 27, 2007 at 1:07 AM
How indeed? Forget the MSM. Without a Rupert Murdock we are left with the new media. That’ll take generations. The problem is we on this side of the fence actually believe the other guy has a right to their opinion. We go to work. Play by the rules. Say ‘Yes Sir’ to the cop who is giving us a ticket, and fly the flag just to fly the flag.
The other side of the fence has the MSM and the George Soros’es willing to gamble their fortunes on putting us in the ground.
Limerick on March 27, 2007 at 1:14 AM
anyone read the comments at the Politico site?
example:
jp on March 27, 2007 at 1:17 AM
JP-
I’ve heard this from alot of folks. The rumor seems to have started during his Law School days at the University of Kentucky. One would think Ms. Chao and their three daughters might have a different opinion however.
However, the old adage holds here. Love is Chemistry and Sex is Physics. It would be easy enough for these two to get together and squirt out 3 kids.
Whatever the case, I still like Mitch. Unlike the Democrat Party, the Republican Party practices tolerance for such things as this. ;)
Pilgrim on March 27, 2007 at 7:34 AM
Isn’t that just lovely. Our Senate leaders have to make like leftists to stay in office.
spmat on March 27, 2007 at 9:13 AM
People with connections, whether personal or through the blogosphere, and especially those who were involved in the planning of GOE need to contact the people they worked with on that. I just went back into the Vault for 3/17 and found these names for starters; Gathering of Eagles, Free Republic, Move America Forward. If you go to http://www.gatheringofeagles.org/ and read the frst post, you’ll notice how much infrastructure is in place. Here is an excerpt:
THIS is what needs to be taken advantage of. So, if people in the HA readership know some of these coordinators, they need to to conact them, and float the idea of organizing a really big demonstration ensuring that our soldiers don’t get cut off at the knees (again). If there is a very energized, motivated response, then there is what to build on.
It’s amazing what can be accomplished in the internet age. A few years ago, in a terrible spring in which there were bombings nearly everday in Israel, and culminating in the Passover massacre in Netanya, a demonstration at the Capitol of 200,000 was pulled together in two weeks. And this is from the comparatively tiny Jewish community (and Christian friends, of course). But the motivation was there. People were horrified and looking for an outlet to express their anger and frustration. So here, too, if people are really cranked about what’s going on with the Dems, the reaction will be strong, and things could happen very fast, esp given what already been accomplished w/ respect to infrastructure. If everyone kind of shot their wad on the GOE, and responses are tepid, then it probably isn’t to be. So floating the idea is #1, and if response is hot, then the thing needs a great name that will grab everybody. I thought of the Million Sleeping Giants March, but while the idea is nice, it sounds lame, and makes it sound like a zombie movie or something. Others can do better.
smellthecoffee on March 27, 2007 at 9:28 AM
Actually I’m getting ahead of myself. #1 is raising awareness of what the Dems are up to–cutting through the noise of Gonzales-gate, and Anna Nicole Smith. Bill Bennett in particular is hammering on this point, and imho Hot Air needs to be similarly focused. To break into MSM consumer consciousness is a Herculean effort as Limerick pointed out above. But it was accomplished with the Dan Rather bogus memo, and it can be accomplished here. But only if the message is focused, and ubiquitous.
smellthecoffee on March 27, 2007 at 9:44 AM
I’m sure it is in violation of some kind of blog etiquette to post three times in a row, but here goes.
I was also thinking that a campaign to take out full pages ads in newspapers all across the country on the same day, would be a good way to cut through the MSM iron curtain. A page on a web-site just listing the contact info for all the reps/senators by district with sample letters to send would also be a step forward. Also, there could be an informational flyer available for people to print and distribute–another way to get through the iron curtain. Something like Americansunitedfor victoryinIraq.com?
The web-site should link to the appropriate related organizations and blogs.
smellthecoffee on March 27, 2007 at 11:44 AM
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