Kralizec, HOTAIR’s Voltaire, makes us reflect in earnest again…

Entelechy on March 25, 2007 at 12:16 AM

Thanks, Entelechy. I don’t mind “writing into the void” most of the time, but it’s good to find a comment now and then that lets me know this stuff is actually being read and sometimes appreciated. By the way, as it happens, I haven’t read Voltaire yet and thus only know him by reputation. Since there’s undoubtedly more at stake than the rhyme with “Hotair,” you’ve made me curious about him.

I would not have subjected my daughter to a public ceremony of this nature, but she has been wearing a “promise” ring since she biologically entered the ranks of womanhood.

She has been taught in a very old-fashioned way. She will not more than hold hands with a boy (and that only in a public, chaperoned setting), with whom she is not engaged to marriage. She believes in that, so she certainly will not destroy the mystery and romance of the marriage bed through pre-marital sex. Her mother and I have not tried to scare her about this topic, that’s a fool’s errand. Instead, she has been taught that the physical acts of marriage are wonderful, sacred gifts to be exchanged only between those who have made a lifetime commitment to each other.

Why girls? Because they are the ones to say no. Unfair? Perhaps, but the facts are the facts. The very reason this sort of purity ceremony is being done today is because society is trying everything in its power to make girls feel guilty if they don’t put out. And some of you who have commented in step with that sentiment should be ashamed. Allowing ourselves to be ruled by our appetites, and then claiming that it’s only natural, is the weakness in man that leads to the destruction of society, and has been throughout history, some commenters’ existentialist swill notwithstanding.

I have a son also, and he is taught the same things about romance and marriage, but he is taught something else. Respect, very strong respect, for all women. I have exactly as much expectation that he will remain innocent until his wedding night that I have for my daughter. I’m not in the habit of deluding myself, and I believe that they both have an excellent chance of accomplishing that goal. Would I be able to even hope for such if I “went along with society”? No, of course no.

We don’t pound shame and guilt into our children’s heads, we show them how much better life is when you do it right. We give them good reasons to make the right choice, not dishonestly scary reasons not to make the wrong choice.

Above all else, they know that they are God’s creation, and that His way always leads to the greater blessings. Roark, the thing you forget about the Al Pacino character is that he is the Father of Lies, and all of that garbage about “look, don’t touch, touch, don’t taste…” was just that, lies. That’s not what God does and anyone who allows themselves to believe such is already on Satan’s hook.

Anyway, I’ll finish as I started. All of you who judge these families who take a devoted, active interest in their daughter’s purity as kooks and scary, but who watch shows like Family Guy, take a long, long look in a mirror.

A jewel for good laughs is the booklet “English well speeched here”. On the topic of balls:

Carnival season in Vienna:
THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR WHEN THE FIREMEN, THE POLICEMEN, THE LAWYERS AND THE DOCTORS ALL ASSEMBLE TO HOLD THEIR BALLS

Indoctrinating children against the very natural, human function of sex usually ends up being a reliable contributing factor as to why this happens. But hey don’t take my word for it; check out the APA if you think I’m full of crap.

Roark on March 25, 2007 at 2:02 PM

Anyone with common sense doesn’t believe a thing the APA says. There is no indoctrination against sex. Waiting until your brain catches up with your body is a good thing. Unfortunately, for some that never occurs.

This is the type of stuff that drives atheists and psychologists crazy. It should be of no surprise that the #1 reason couples seek marriage and relationship counseling is for problems related to the couples’ sex life. Indoctrinating children against the very natural, human function of sex usually ends up being a reliable contributing factor as to why this happens. But hey don’t take my word for it; check out the APA if you think I’m full of crap. Or check out why teenage pregnancy, divorce rates and anti-depressant use are all so high in my former state of Utah, where pre-marital chastity is pounded into kids as early as possible. Yes, let’s shame and guilt kids into doing what is right! And if we can make it even more pressure packed and guilt ridden by adding in a creepy social pact in front of your peers and family, then let’s do it! That sounds like a good recipe for healthy psychological development, what could go wrong (sarc/obviously)!

I’m sorry but Al Pacino’s line in “The Devil’s Advocate” is just too fitting to let slide here… “Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He’s a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do, I swear for His own amusement, his own private, cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It’s the goof of all time. Look but don’t touch. Touch, but don’t taste. Taste, don’t swallow. Ahaha. And while you’re jumpin’ from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He’s laughin’…” I won’t finish it, but you get the point. However, I’ll leave it at that and expect the rebuke…;)

(sorry, had to tos that old joke in)

Yesterday I watched ‘Geraldo at Large’’ – well, the TV was on Fox and it just happened to come on

Excuses. That’s when I use my remote. ;)

Makes sense to concentrate on the girls, though. 95% of guys are hopeless sex fiends.

RW Wacko on March 25, 2007 at 10:52 AM

There was a study in one of Ann Coulter’s books; I can’t remember off hand. They surveyed responses by sexes. A good-looking woman would go up to guys in bars. Something like 70% of guys would be willing to leave immediately and have sex. 0% of women were willing to do the same to a good-looking guy.

There are definitely differences between the sexes.

Yesterday I watched ‘Geraldo at Large” – well, the TV was on Fox and it just happened to come on – a segment abput college students making their own porn magazines and websites. The guest student was a girl who stated that yes, she participates, and her parents were “proud” of her entrepreurial undertaking.
I would have liked to have seen her father on the show, backing up her claim.

Blacklake – I want to hear more about that curse.

Makes sense to concentrate on the girls, though. 95% of guys are hopeless sex fiends.

The contemporary Americans’ use of technology and religion to put off family, so they can extend job training through age 22 or 25, is fascinating to a theorist, partly because its self-undermining results emerge so slowly that most contemporary Americans don’t perceive the changes.

Kralizec on March 24, 2007 at 11:23 PM

Although I understand what you’re saying, I disagree with the idea that religion is a cause. “Free Thinkers” (who are usually atheists) and those who would like to see age limits for sexual relations with children removed might agree with you. The most significant cause of putting off child-bearing was the 2nd wave feminist movement. That, coupled with the use of abortion as a method of birth control, as well as birth control itself, has removed responsibility and accountability for sexual behavior. This had the effect of lowering the age when children become sexually active. That is hardly a religious movement, but it certainly has had a detrimental effect on society.

But the idea of chastity pledges makes sense, just as the “What would Jesus do?” bracelets did.

At least you have people bucking the trend of degrading popular culture.

There are, in the United States: Over

Three Hundred Milion People.

If something seemingly silly will make someone decide to wait until marriage to have sex, and even wait until financially stable to have a kid…

What’s wrong with that?

When I was 4, my Mom asked me not to smoke or do drugs. My sister said that if I smoked, it would leave a black mark on her soul.

This was ~1974, and I grew up roman catholic.

I still don’t smoke or do drugs.

They left drinking and w++++ng open for me. Thanks!!