What would happen if troops were defunded

posted at 10:00 pm on March 23, 2007 by Ian

From the creators of “Halp Us Jon Carry” comes what our military will have to do if the Democrats defund the war:

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Allah tells me that some of these pics are old, but with today’s news and it being a Friday, I’d thought it would be a nice post.


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I’m cryin’ over here. Cryin’ I tell ya.

robblefarian on March 23, 2007 at 10:07 PM

Funny images except for the hint of truth as to the possition our troops could find themselves if the many Dems (and a few Republicans) get their way.

Yakko77 on March 23, 2007 at 10:09 PM

I’m LMAO!

amerpundit on March 23, 2007 at 10:12 PM

This shows how GREAT our troops are, they are able to keep their sense of humor even while the Democrats in Congress are stabbing them and America in the back.

Maxx on March 23, 2007 at 10:13 PM

Wow! I LOVE these guys.

Stephen M on March 23, 2007 at 10:13 PM

LMRWAO…

SouthernGent on March 23, 2007 at 10:16 PM

roflcopter… *snort* Good stuff.

spmat on March 23, 2007 at 10:18 PM

Two words; BAKE SALE!

Mojave Mark on March 23, 2007 at 10:22 PM

Never before in American history has a major political party tied its short term prospects to an American military defeat.

Make no mistake about it, the democrat party cheers with every dead American serviceman and servicewoman.

The democrat party will do whatever it takes to encourage and embolden the people who are trying to kill Americans in Iraq.

Are there individual democrats who oppose their party? Yes. But the democrat party, as a political party, is an anti American party. It is a party whose only hope is that bad, terrible, tragic things happen to the United States and to our citizens anywhere and everywhere in the world.

As I’ve posted many times before, all we can do is pray that God will send George W. Bush a pair of balls . . . or send us someone else who can stand up to the democrats.

Labamigo on March 23, 2007 at 10:23 PM

Guys, I think you need to see the bigger picture.

What’s one of our greatest assets for morale? The USO. And if we defund the troops, they won’t be able to afford to spare the resources to fly in Ted Nugent, Drew Carey, or the WWE.

And that means they’ll have to entertain themselves.

My God…look what that did to the Brits.

Now. Picture that…with “My Humps” by Black-Eyed Peas. Not a pretty picture, is it?

fusionaddict on March 23, 2007 at 10:30 PM

DON’T SHOW THESE PICS.

YOU’LL EMBOLDEN THE ENEMY!!!111one.

Reaps on March 23, 2007 at 10:38 PM

GREAT GREAT GREAT!.

I just email linked it to every address I have in a certain Cav Regiment. I know these boys…….they are gonna riot over it.

Limerick on March 23, 2007 at 10:38 PM

The libs are indeed dense but not quite that crazy (yet) the fallout from defunding the troops is far and away more than enough threat to keep the money flowing.
The troops won’t be defunded.

The Democrats as Patriots? Another story.

Speakup on March 23, 2007 at 10:41 PM

Lol, these guys are hilarious.

Never before in American history has a major political party tied its short term prospects to an American military defeat.

Make no mistake about it, the democrat party cheers with every dead American serviceman and servicewoman.

The democrat party will do whatever it takes to encourage and embolden the people who are trying to kill Americans in Iraq.

Are there individual democrats who oppose their party? Yes. But the democrat party, as a political party, is an anti American party. It is a party whose only hope is that bad, terrible, tragic things happen to the United States and to our citizens anywhere and everywhere in the world.

As I’ve posted many times before, all we can do is pray that God will send George W. Bush a pair of balls . . . or send us someone else who can stand up to the democrats.

Labamigo on March 23, 2007 at 10:23 PM

I second that. This is something I say all the time. It’s really sad that most people, even on our side of the aisle, don’t quite understand just how bad it is. The Democrats as a party are some of the most disgusting human beings I can imagine. Pure evil. And I’m not joking at all.

RightWinged on March 23, 2007 at 10:44 PM

The libs are indeed dense but not quite that crazy (yet) the fallout from defunding the troops is far and away more than enough threat to keep the money flowing.
The troops won’t be defunded.

The Democrats as Patriots? Another story.

Speakup on March 23, 2007 at 10:41 PM

I’ve got a problem with your “(yet)”
This bill that passed today has to go to the Senate. If it passes there (prob’ly won’t) it’ll be vetoed by the President.
So what’s the problem?
The problem is, this whole process will take weeks, and in the meantime, the troops IN THE FIELD are in danger of being defunded before Congress passes a decent bill.
In the 70′s, Congress defunded a war (and oh how nicely that worked out) but not when there were almost 150 thousand U.S. personnel in harm’s way.
This is a d@mned sad day to be an American.
For the first time in history, the U.S. House of Representatives is controlled by men and women who us to lose a war and will do anything to make that happen.

billy on March 23, 2007 at 10:54 PM

For the first time in history, the U.S. House of Representatives is controlled by men and women who us to lose a war and will do anything to make that happen.

much agreed. the means that these traitors will go to to undermine Bush is AMAZING.

wryteacher on March 23, 2007 at 11:09 PM

Don’t worry these last minute screaming and yelling tantrums will work in favor of an emergency ‘clean’ funding bill.
Like I said the outrage of daring to leave our children hanging around like stick on bullseyes will get Congress moving faster than a day late payday.

Speakup on March 23, 2007 at 11:13 PM

Freaking hilarious!

God bless these folks out there doing this incredibly hard job.

God bless em’ for their sense of humor too!

-Wasteland Man

WastelandMan on March 23, 2007 at 11:18 PM

much agreed. the means that these traitors will go to to undermine Bush is AMAZING.

wryteacher on March 23, 2007 at 11:09 PM

We’ve always had political divisions in this country, but nothing like this. Nothing.
Anyone who says we shouldn’t have gone into Iraq to begin with, well I disagree, vehemently so, but I can respect the argument.
But this?
A political strategy to put our Commander-in-Chief in a box which will make U.S. failure inevitable?
And our political/media/cultural elite just cheers like they are watching the Harvard/Yale polo match.

billy on March 23, 2007 at 11:20 PM

but nothing like this. Nothing.
billy on March 23, 2007 at 11:20 PM

I’m digging a foxhole also billy.

Limerick on March 23, 2007 at 11:24 PM

Labamigo wrote:

Never before in American history has a major political party tied its short term prospects to an American military defeat.

You’re probably right, though something similar happened when Congress cut off aid to South Vietnam over 30 years ago.

Patrick Chester on March 23, 2007 at 11:41 PM

So what if some of the photos are “old”? Good decision Ian.

Funny stuff and sadly very relevant with today’s disgusting pork filled white flag Iraq supplemental bill that passed in the House.

angryamerican on March 23, 2007 at 11:45 PM

We’ve always had political divisions in this country, but nothing like this. Nothing.
Anyone who says we shouldn’t have gone into Iraq to begin with, well I disagree, vehemently so, but I can respect the argument.
But this?
A political strategy to put our Commander-in-Chief in a box which will make U.S. failure inevitable?
And our political/media/cultural elite just cheers like they are watching the Harvard/Yale polo match.

billy on March 23, 2007 at 11:20 PM

I agree Billy.

angryamerican on March 23, 2007 at 11:46 PM

They are chanting, “Bye, bye GI. In Iraq you’re gonna die”

and “Build a bone fire. Build a bone fire. Put the soldiers on the top. Put the Fascists in the middle and we’ll burn the F’in lot”

TheBigOldDog on March 23, 2007 at 11:49 PM

I don’t know if I should laugh or be slightly frightened by the actual possibility.

vcferlita on March 23, 2007 at 11:51 PM

Two words; BAKE SALE!

Mojave Mark on March 23, 2007 at 10:22 PM

Remember years ago when lib bake sales were all the rage?

Rush talked about some young schoolkids somewhere held a bake sale for some lib cause, raised a few dollars and sent it in to the Clenis.

I think the College Republicans should pick this up as a cause. Bake sales on campii all across America until the ‘crats wise up and pass a clean bill. Then we could see if libs truly support the troops.

One a week with a different theme each week. First week, all sales could go towards medical supplies for XYZ medical unit. Second week, all sales go towards ABC infantry for new boots, and so on.

91Veteran on March 23, 2007 at 11:55 PM

I thought for a second that my two posts above werev a little over the top. But then I saw this.

billy on March 24, 2007 at 12:52 AM

Like I said the outrage of daring to leave our children hanging around like stick on bullseyes will get Congress moving faster than a day late payday.

Either that or we could be hunting Democrats with dogs….

georgej on March 24, 2007 at 1:01 AM

We’ve always had political divisions in this country, but nothing like this. Nothing.

Actually, Billy, the closest to this situation came about in 1864 when the DEMOCRATS ran on a surrender platform during the Civil War. Then, they Copperheads (as they were called) lost to Lincoln.

georgej on March 24, 2007 at 1:11 AM

Holy sh**!! Then the Canadians will kick our a##!!

Ropera on March 24, 2007 at 1:21 AM

Actually, Billy, the closest to this situation came about in 1864 when the DEMOCRATS ran on a surrender platform during the Civil War. Then, they Copperheads (as they were called) lost to Lincoln.

georgej on March 24, 2007 at 1:11 AM

They, the Democrats, lost then though.
Check out the vid on LGF.
These people won the last election, or nearly just as bad, think that they did.
Do you think these fine Americans feel any sense of pride or responsibility in living in “the great arsenal of democracy?”

billy on March 24, 2007 at 1:22 AM

That anarchist video is disgusting.

Too far. That’s just too far.

techno_barbarian on March 24, 2007 at 1:37 AM

What the anarchists are too stupid to understand is that the very structures that they want to tear down are the only things that prevent the rest of us from ripping their filthy guts out.

Bunch of morons.

TABoLK on March 24, 2007 at 2:11 AM

I think the College Republicans should pick this up as a cause. Bake sales on campii all across America until the ‘crats wise up and pass a clean bill.

Nice idea, yet if you don’t know what kind of permits must be obtained and red tape has to be cut to have a bake sale on a college campus you are in for a nasty surprise.

The College Republicans won’t get the necessary permits. They won’t have the “necessary need,” as determined by the Student Activities Board under the direction of the Administrator of the Office of Student Activities.

Heck, my (former) COLLEGIATE MUSIC ORGANIZATION, made up in its entirety of college music students, officially sanctioned by the University, and with a 20+ year history on the campus couldn’t get a permit for a baked goods/coffee sale to raise funds earmarked to pay for the use of COLLEGE FACILITIES (the auditorium) for a guest composer concert!!

Colleges only give fund raising permits to lefty or athletic groups. If you are the “Campus Greens,” you can get a GRANT–not just a fund raiser but a GRANT of Student Activities funds that are REQUIRED payment by all students–to give out “Gas Guzzler Violation” tickets to be placed on “Un-environmentally friendly” vehicles, like the 8+ year old cars driven by many college students. YES, THIS IS COMMONPLACE ON MANY COLLEGE CAMPUSES!

You won’t get grants or even fund raising permits for anything else. My music organization had to resort to entirely raising funds internally from within its own membership or external from the college–we weren’t granted permits necessary to raise money from the general college population.

Raising money for an non-athletic or non-lefty organization within a college campus is more difficult than obtaining a permit for a new oil refinery and adjacent nuclear power plant in San Francisco.

mojojojo on March 24, 2007 at 5:28 AM

They are chanting, “Bye, bye GI. In Iraq you’re gonna die”

and “Build a bone fire. Build a bone fire. Put the soldiers on the top. Put the Fascists in the middle and we’ll burn the F’in lot”

Sounds like we do need to bring the troops home. Have them clean the filth out of our own house here first, then finish the job in Iraq.

Hack Ptui on March 24, 2007 at 9:08 AM

Sounds like we do need to bring the troops home. Have them clean the filth out of our own house here first, then finish the job in Iraq.
Hack Ptui on March 24, 2007 at 9:08 AM

Incompetant and self-destructive elected representatives have always ended up provoking the military to restore order in the chaos they made by horrific mismanagement and corruption. Ask Nigerians, Ivorians, the Thais what happens after the military is moved to step in to stop anarchy caused by feckless politicians. Kiss Democracy good-bye. The beauty of American democracy is the military firmly under civilian rule. But, do not expect good outcomes if a slovenly, undisciplined, ugly and hostile group of legislators rides the country into ruin. The stresses on the military, which is highly structured and doesn’t like chaos one little bit, would be intense. The public, the citizenry must be the solution to this – actively holding the politicians to standards, voting them out, supervising elections, getting solid, competant people in to govern. It is a terrible mistake to nurture the expectation that we can fall back on the military to straighten out the mess made by elected officials. The initial relief of law and order for the first time fades as the population discovers that it is a very rare military that knows how to deal with civilians, a rabble of undisciplined people who don’t take orders. This means, more citizens taking active roles in government – many more. And once the established Rule of Law and orderly transfer of power is disrupted, it is very, very difficult to restore the system – that is the integrity of the electoral process that holds the trust and fundamental support of the people. These are extremely dangerous times, with the nearly 100% hostility and abuse of the media and the Democrats being heaped on our military which is developing a collective idea that they are being unfairly maligned (and rightfully so.)

naliaka on March 24, 2007 at 10:47 AM

Maybe they can send the kids door to door selling candy bars to get money like the schools.

Wade on March 24, 2007 at 10:51 AM

naliaka on March 24, 2007 at 10:47 AM

While on the surface I agree with you I would like to remind you that Gen Washington was a military man. He could have ruled as dictator for life but chose to leave after two terms.

I do not advocate the violent overthrow of our gov’t by our military. I do, however, think the American people should march on Washington and remind our gov’t who is in charge of whom.

JasonG on March 24, 2007 at 11:09 AM

What have the troops done lately that no one hears about? Let’s see:

The Queen of England presented the United Kingdom’s Distinguished Flying Cross to Maj. William D. Chesarek Jr., during an Investiture Ceremony held at Buckingham Palace, here March 21.

Chesarek, an AH-1W Super Cobra helicopter pilot, was recognized for his service as an exchange officer serving with the U. K.’s 847th Naval Air Squadron, Commando Helicopter Force during combat operations in Iraq in 2006. The award is a level three award for gallantry in the air while on active operation against the enemy and according to the U. K.’s Ministry of Defense office, this is first time this is being presented to an American service member since actions in World War II.

According to the U.K. award citation, during operations in the vicinity of Al Amarah on June 10-11, 2006, Chesarek, flying a Lynx AH7 helicopter, was providing communications relay support to the U.K.’s ground forces during a company sized search operation when the unit encountered insurgents armed with small arms and Rocket Propelled Grenades.

To assist the unit, Chesarek flew in to spot enemy fire and due to being trained as an airborne forward air controller he was able to coordinate, designate and control fixed wing assets in conducting close air support which resulted in dispersing the insurgents.

Additionally the citations states, being the only rotary winged aircraft in the area, Chesarek landed his helicopter adjacent to the scene and extracted a U.K. troop with a life threatening injury. Chesarek then flew the casualty to Shaibah Logistics Base and is credited with saving the life of the wounded soldier in addition to aiding in the safe extraction of the company.

“I am greatly honored and would like to accept this prestigious award for 847 NAS in memory of Lt. Cdr. Darren Chapman RN, Capt. David Dobson AAC, and Marine Paul Collins RM who were killed in action over Basrah in May 2006,” said Chesarek. “The awarded actions were only possible due to the combined effort of my combat crew; Lt. David Williams RN and Lance Cpl. Max Carter RM. My greatest sense of achievement that day is in knowing the ground troops all made it home.”

tormod on March 24, 2007 at 11:12 AM

Never before in American history has a major political party tied its short term prospects to an American military defeat.

Make no mistake about it, the democrat party cheers with every dead American serviceman and servicewoman.

Labamigo on March 23, 2007 at 10:23 PM

I disagree with yout first statement. I lived in a time this same thing happened. The democrate congress promised to fund the South Vietnam war effort and help them fight the North Commies. Nixon left office and all aid was cut to help fund their fight. We know the rest. Millions of people died after the Souths army was overthrown.

Grayzel on March 24, 2007 at 11:13 AM

Labamigo wrote:

Never before in American history has a major political party tied its short term prospects to an American military defeat.
You’re probably right, though something similar happened when Congress cut off aid to South Vietnam over 30 years ago.

Patrick Chester on March 23, 2007 at 11:41 PM

Well, I agree Patrick that the democrat party has experience in this sort of thing; as Rush says “they own defeat.”

But, by the time the democrats cut funding in the ’70s the Viet Nam war was already lost. It had been so badly mismanaged and politicized that there was no hope. But here, in Iraq, that is not the case. We can still prevail there. It won’t be short term, its long term. And, unlike Viet Nam, a loss in Iraq will threaten the internal security of the US and its citizens. Me and thee.

Labamigo on March 24, 2007 at 11:13 AM

Ooops, credit where due needed, thanks Michelle, sorry.

tormod on March 24, 2007 at 11:19 AM

The defeatocrats think that de-funding the war will not have a disastrous effect on combat effectiveness. They believe that the troops can use stick and stones just as effectively as guns and mortars and if that proves false, well most of the troops vote Republican so who cares?.

Apparently, they are following the example of one of their heroes who picked up pine cones and threw them at the enemy, at which point the pine cones magically turned into grenades. This is called the Magic Formula for Combat Effectiveness and the defeatocrats fully support this formula.

RedinBlueCounty on March 24, 2007 at 11:21 AM

Please God, let al-Qaeda make some kind of public statement in support of the Democrats. Please, God.

Halley on March 24, 2007 at 11:30 AM

tormod on March 24, 2007 at 11:12 AM

That was an inspiring story, and we could and should be hearing stories like it every day. Uncommon valor really is a common virtue among the men and women of our armed forces. Unfortunately the enemedia despise valor, virtue, and our military, and want our troops to come home in disgrace and defeat. So all the American people hear about are casualty figures and the very rare cases of misconduct.

ReubenJCogburn on March 24, 2007 at 11:45 AM

I do not advocate the violent overthrow of our gov’t by our military. I do, however, think the American people should march on Washington and remind our gov’t who is in charge of whom.
JasonG on March 24, 2007 at 11:09 AM

I used that comment by Hack Ptui as a launch for the comment, thinking no one at the moment is considering that, and indeed, we are far from it at this point in time. But, these circumstances do not happen overnight, with no prior background. They come from a steady, relentless deterioration. There comes a time in a nation that the people are so failed by their leadership that they begin loud cries for law and order. A seething and frustrated military, brought to that state of affairs after years of the very same irresponsible leadership will be hard-pressed NOT to respond. The Left’s current actions, aided by the suicidally foolish MSM will have far-reaching consequences. Watching Al Gore “testify” in his role as an actor in a bogus Senate hearing to promote a Left-anti-civilization propaganda, enabled by Barbara Boxer who waved the gavel about with a spectacularly childish, “I’m in charge, now!” evoked nothing but revulsion and a desire to shut the Senate circus down. We’re at war and the Senate Democrats are wasting their time and US taxpayers’ money with feting Al Gore who knows nothing about real science, much less climatology, but everything about massive personal consumption of resources? Money to listen to Gore bloviate, but not for the troops to fight nasty people who chop other people’s heads and hands off. Bad combo.

naliaka on March 24, 2007 at 11:57 AM

But, by the time the democrats cut funding in the ’70s the Viet Nam war was already lost.

That’s not true as there was a cease fire agreement, signed in 1973, which was called the Paris Peace Accord. North Vietnam repeatedly violated this agreement and both President Nixon and President Ford requested an increase of aid to South Vietnam, aid which was reduced by congress, then controlled by democrats.

Congress completely cut off aid to South Vietnam in 1975 after reducing it several times in the preceding two years, thus making the South unable to effectively respond to an invasion by the North. North Vietnam invaded and gained control of all of Vietnam. This invasion was supported by funds and equipment, as well and manpower, from the USSR and China.

Then, as now, the democrats in congress refused to support an American ally and our ally fell to hostile forces. History is about to repeat itself if the Democrats succeed in cutting off the funds today.

RedinBlueCounty on March 24, 2007 at 11:58 AM

Sheep don’t like dogs, but when a wolf comes around they bleet for the sheepdog to come save them. Once the wolf has been driven off, the sheep go back to still not liking dogs. Thank God for our sheepdogs!

driller on March 24, 2007 at 12:06 PM

Two words; BAKE SALE!
Mojave Mark on March 23, 2007 at 10:22 PM

I saw a lefty sign at a rally something like this…
“well never have peace while the military gets billons and schools have bake sales.”
so mojave you’ve given the left what they want.

But, by the time the democrats cut funding in the ’70s the Viet Nam war was already lost. It had been so badly mismanaged and politicized that there was no hope. But here, in Iraq, that is not the case. We can still prevail there. It won’t be short term, its long term. And, unlike Viet Nam, a loss in Iraq will threaten the internal security of the US and its citizens. Me and thee.

Labamigo on March 24, 2007 at 11:13 AM

The war was for the most part over, the north had stopped most offence action US soldiers were not getting killed we were about to have a North Korea type stand off. Then congress cut the fund and the north did what this congress says the Iraqis will do… The worst people rise up and conquer the peaceful people. This is the lesson of history that the left fail to learn,
I could do better but I gotta get to work.

Gwillie on March 24, 2007 at 12:07 PM

Never before in American history has a major political party tied its short term prospects to an American military defeat.

Labamigo on March 23, 2007 at 10:23 PM

For those of you not old enough to remember.

This is exactly what happened in Viet Nam. The Dems stopped funding.

MILLIONS DIED!!!!

Wade on March 24, 2007 at 12:07 PM

Sheep don’t like dogs, but when a wolf comes around they bleet for the sheepdog to come save them. Once the wolf has been driven off, the sheep go back to still not liking dogs. Thank God for our sheepdogs!

Ever read this driller?

On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs – Dave Grossman

TheBigOldDog on March 24, 2007 at 12:14 PM

Dude. Seriously. Bake sale. National Armed Forces Bake Sale. WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

fusionaddict on March 24, 2007 at 12:15 PM

But, by the time the democrats cut funding in the ’70s the Viet Nam war was already lost. It had been so badly mismanaged and politicized that there was no hope. But here, in Iraq, that is not the case. We can still prevail there. It won’t be short term, its long term. And, unlike Viet Nam, a loss in Iraq will threaten the internal security of the US and its citizens. Me and thee.

Labamigo on March 24, 2007 at 11:13 AM

FYI Militarily we won the war in Viet Nam. Politically we lost because of Walter Cronkite, the MSM and the democrats.

All that was needed at that time for a total victory was for the democrat cowards was to back the war 100% and stop the hate of America. North Viet Nam (by their own admissions)would have capitulated and we could have supported South Viet Nam and saved millions of lives.

Wade on March 24, 2007 at 12:17 PM

This is how we feel.

I’ve lost my trust in the demz. But I won’t lose faith. Semper Fi!

Mazztek on March 24, 2007 at 12:26 PM

Thanks BigOldDog, it was sent to me by my son (a sheepdog for the President). I couldn’t find the full quote so I summarized.

driller on March 24, 2007 at 12:27 PM

On the topic of sheep and dogs. Read Russ Vaugh’s poem The Sheepdogs.

…Until he has us by the throat,
We pay no heed; we take no note.
Not until he strikes us at our core
Will we unleash the Dogs of War
Only having felt the wolf pack’s wrath
Do we loose the sheepdogs on its path.

And the wolves will learn what we’ve shown before;
We love our sheep, we Dogs of War.

georgej on March 24, 2007 at 4:33 PM

georgej; Read the whole thing- great! Forwarded to USSS. Thanks

driller on March 24, 2007 at 9:19 PM

Dude. Seriously. Bake sale. National Armed Forces Bake Sale. WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

fusionaddict on March 24, 2007 at 12:15 PM

I’d like to see it. Perhaps MM could put up a separate Paypal account. I would hit it in a minute, and the PR would be great. It could be a virtual bake sale.

The proceeds could actually be sent to an organization like Project Valour IT or some other organization helping wounded soldiers.

91Veteran on March 24, 2007 at 10:43 PM

Those who refuse to support and defend a state have no claim to protection by that state. Killing an anarchist or a pacifist should not be defined as “murder” in a legalistic sense. The offense against the state, if any, should be “Using deadly weapons inside city limits,” or “Creating a traffic hazard,” or “Endangering bystanders,” or some other misdemeanor.

Excerpts from Lazarus Long

dawgyear on March 24, 2007 at 10:54 PM

Time to find an MP3 of Zell Miller’s speech:

“…armed with WHAT? Spitwads?

Dave Shay on March 24, 2007 at 11:43 PM

I guess in retaliation the Republicans could write a bill defunding the Teachers Unions and ACLU.

Doug on March 25, 2007 at 9:30 AM

“…armed with WHAT? Spitwads?“

How about this from ‘Handle the Truth’ Jack

Wade on March 25, 2007 at 10:42 AM

Hmmm. Not sure what the link above did not work, I’ll try one more time. HERE

Wade on March 25, 2007 at 10:45 AM