Open thread: Goracle on Capitol Hill to talk about the weather; Update: Heart-ache — Gore refuses Inhofe’s energy ethics pledge; Update: Video added
posted at 9:22 am on March 21, 2007 by Allahpundit
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C-SPAN 3 will have both hearings, first the undercard at 9:30 before a House subcommittee on global warming and then the main event at 2:30 before the Senate Environment and Public Works committee, where he and crusty GW skeptic James Inhofe will finally square off. Neither my cable company nor Bryan’s carries C-SPAN 3, so we’re at the mercy of Fox and CNN. If you’re hot to watch, and no doubt some of you are, you can do so over the web. Keep us posted on the goings-on in the comments.
Here’s what to expect in the a.m.:
Gore begins the day in the House, where he will face Energy Chairman John D. Dingell, a Democrat from the auto-industry state of Michigan, who has resisted federal increases in fuel-efficiency standards. Dingell also invited Lomborg, a Danish political scientist and author of “The Skeptical Environmentalist,” who has argued that combating AIDS and poverty may carry a greater social value than tackling climate change.
Republicans have already signaled that they’ll be waiting with tough questions. Two senior GOP members, Rep. Joe L. Barton of Texas and former House speaker J. Dennis Hastert of Illinois, want Gore to use his 30-minute opening statement to address a comment last year that “it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations” in his lecture.
“What is your motive for the ‘over-representation?’ ” Barton and Hastert asked in a letter delivered to Gore on Tuesday. “Are you worried that your issue must compete for attention and resources with those other global issues that are already compelling and do not need Hollywood hyperbole?”
And here’s a taste of what he’ll face in the p.m. It’s Inhofe versus CNN anchor Miles O’Brien from last October. His press guy put out a statement last night essentially accusing Gore of thinking his shinola don’t stink, to coin a phrase. Should be fun.
Update: “Those who believe all his garbage are going to be excited to death and the rest of us are going to ignore it.”
Update: Fox is carrying it. The Gorebot is late to the hearing, reportedly because he doesn’t want to suffer the indignity of listening to the GOP’s opening statement. Republicans now say they’ll waive their opening statement — in return for five extra minutes of questioning.
Update: Inhofe’s press guy says the transcript of Gore’s prepared remarks was finally delivered to the Senate — at 9:29 a.m., fully one minute before the House hearing opened and 23 hours and 59 minutes after he’d promised to deliver them.
Update: Tonight he dines in hell!
Update: You think Inhofe is enjoying this or what?
“There are hundreds of thousands of people who adore you and would follow your example by reducing their energy usage if you did. Don’t give us the run-around on carbon offsets or the gimmicks the wealthy do,” Senator Inhofe told Gore.
“Are you willing to make a commitment here today by taking this pledge to consume no more energy for use in your residence than the average American household by one year from today?” Senator Inhofe asked…
Gore refused to take the pledge.
Update: Here’s a little post-pledge video that’s making the rounds.
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Committe hearing protocol after Donks take control sounds something like this ………
****** FLLLUSSSSSSHHHHH , GIRGLE, GIRGLE ********
fogw on March 21, 2007 at 11:32 AM
Yeah Keep hoping for that. Politicians know that fear over global warming = more money for them to spend. What reason to they have to doubt it?
lorien1973 on March 21, 2007 at 11:33 AM
So did they need a Bobcat or a forklift to carry Gore into the hallowed halls of congress or was he able to be moved in their on a pallet jack?
benrand on March 21, 2007 at 11:34 AM
Hastert’s telling Gore that it doesn’t matter what we do, if China keeps increasing its carbon emissions by the day. He’s also telling him that not every part of Kyoto is actually working. He says we need more atomic energy.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 11:35 AM
Correct me if I’m wrong but, has Hastert asked a question yet?
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 11:36 AM
Yeah Aemr, I did like that point. If we shut down every coal powered plant in the US tomorrow the increase in energy use by China and India would more than offset our decline
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 11:37 AM
Hastert’s telling Gore that the cutting of emissions in the US, would increase the exporting of US jobs, which is something Dems are against.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 11:38 AM
“Human activity is the principal cause of the warming”
What about all those farting bovines???
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 11:38 AM
So, Gore doesn’t want to raise taxes. How does he plan to pay the billions for his projects? Chipping away at the defense budget?
Gore doesn’t think that nuclear power won’t play a major role, in the solution.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 11:40 AM
Why is it, that you can always pick Democrats out of the crowd? They almost have a look.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 11:41 AM
A Democrat has just asked Gore to explain the fact that water vapor is the largest contributor to the green house effect.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 11:42 AM
Gore just claimed that nuke plants “only come in extra large”
Ever heard of the United States Navy Al???
I recently read a very interesting essay about building mini nuke plants all over the country; same exact type, all parts interchangable, manned by current and former Navy nuke personnel.
I thought the idea had quite a bit of merit.
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 11:42 AM
Water vapor and farting bovines…
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 11:43 AM
Babs, facts don’t matter to Gore and his cronies.
Wow. How nice of China to invest in reducing emissions, as they were just recently found to contribute more emissions to the atmosphere, than the US.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 11:44 AM
I’m paraphrasing just a bit, but wha???
lan astaslem on March 21, 2007 at 11:44 AM
http://www.co2emissions.org.uk/index.php?pt=1&dn=6
Kokonut on March 21, 2007 at 11:46 AM
My husband travels to China, Taiwan and Mexico for business a LOT.
He practically chokes to death when he goes to these countries.
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 11:46 AM
I’m sorry, Allah if the language is inappropriate, but Gore is full of crap.
I just got back from China in February. I visited 5 different cities, from Beijing to Hong Kong to Changsha to Guangzhou to Shanghai. The visibility was about 1/2 a mile in Beijing. In Hong Kong, you couldn’t see the city from a mountaintop viewing area. In Changsha, it snowed brown, and looked like 60’s Soviet Union. In Guangzhou you had trouble breathing. All because of the pollution.
I came back with a 103.2 fever, a horrible cough, and an upper respiratory infection. I took medicine for weeks. I saw the Chinese factories, there is so much black smoke coming from them, you’d think there was a forest fire. The pollution in the rural areas was even worse.
China’s not doing crap to reduce pollution, it gains by the day.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 11:48 AM
China is heavily dependent on coal.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/business/worldbusiness/11chinacoal.html?ex=1307678400en=e9ac1f6255a24fd8ei=5088partner=rssnytemc=rss
Thanks, NYTimes!
Kokonut on March 21, 2007 at 11:49 AM
Hey Amer - Do you work for the smae company as my husband?
The dirty, and I do mean dirty, little secret is that the pollution in China is just unbelievable.
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 11:51 AM
question posed to Gore “Coal power plant or nuclear…?”
Kokonut on March 21, 2007 at 11:51 AM
Oh good, he’s bringing Scripture into it.
dalewalt on March 21, 2007 at 11:52 AM
Babs, no actually I went for a family vacation.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 11:52 AM
if they actually suceeded at reducing alot of CO2, it would likely kill some trees. CO2 is not a “greenhouse” gas its a natural part of the atmosphere, its all a myth
jp on March 21, 2007 at 11:52 AM
Gore’s got religion!
lan astaslem on March 21, 2007 at 11:52 AM
Oh so he agrees that the Conservative position is to put power in the hands of the people. So, we’re not looking for world domination for Heir Bush?
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 11:53 AM
Gore: Sell electricity back into the grid…
Anyone out there got $20,000 they can give me to get up and running?
No? I didn’t think so.
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 11:53 AM
Nuclear power plants were stopped because enviro-weanies were scared.
dalewalt on March 21, 2007 at 11:54 AM
The Republicans, with exception of Hastert and one other guy, have taken almost no swipes at Gore.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 11:54 AM
Ingus is asking why, if a company is willing to build a power plant, which would last for a very long time, and produce no carbon emissions, why Gore is opposed to it.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 11:55 AM
OMG!This repub weenie is now advocating hamstringing American business by demanding they abide by American environmental standards in other countries.
Don’t get me wrong, I would be very happy to see a reduction in world wide pollution. But, legislating restrictions on American companies doing business overseas is suicidal.
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 11:58 AM
Is that Tipper who keeps peeking over Goracle’s shoulder? She’s going to get a crick in her neck!
lan astaslem on March 21, 2007 at 11:58 AM
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/nuclear/page/at_a_glance/states/statesca.html
Kokonut on March 21, 2007 at 11:59 AM
Is Tipper there? I didn’t see her.
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 11:59 AM
No, the difference is Gore can make money on the man-made emission contribution, not the volcano and other natural contribution.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 12:01 PM
LOL LOL LOL
Different types of CO2 with differnent signatures that allow us to tell whether they were from man-made causes or not !!!
db on March 21, 2007 at 12:02 PM
I say put a cork in it all you cows.
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:02 PM
Fred Upton is speaking now, let’s see if he goes after Gore.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 12:03 PM
Different types of CO2 with differnent signatures that allow us to tell whether they were from man-made causes or not !!!
Does that make any sense to anyone?
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:04 PM
Two coal fire plants being built in China every week.
Maybe Al should take the show on the road!
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:06 PM
So Gore wants to do what the Europeans are doing. Upton says that France is 90% reliant on nuclear energy. Gore’s opposed to nuclear energy.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 12:07 PM
Sorry, that’s what Gore said in response to a question about whether natural occurances of CO2 far outweighed man-made causes. He said that due to the different ’signatures’ of different sources of CO2 that researchers had determined that man-made causes far outweighrd natural causes of the CO2 in the atmoshpere.
db on March 21, 2007 at 12:07 PM
So, now Gore is afraid of another Chernobyl, if we build more nuclear plants. He really needs to get his concerns straight.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 12:09 PM
The rodent is up now.
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:09 PM
Yeah, Babs, as much as anything else he’s said.
dalewalt on March 21, 2007 at 12:09 PM
Waxmania!
Kokonut on March 21, 2007 at 12:10 PM
“Gorebull Warning”
fogw on March 21, 2007 at 12:10 PM
Babs, I’d say about 3/4 of the Dems speeches are spent kissing Gore’s butt. Would you agree?
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 12:10 PM
3/4? I think your polling is biased!
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:11 PM
LOL.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 12:13 PM
Ice caps are melting!
Now, it’s a moral issue that demand us to respond to stop this melting nonsense. Who is going to tell mother earth to stop the momentum?
Kokonut on March 21, 2007 at 12:14 PM
“President Waxman, we could, in the future, use your nostrils to shield North America from the harmful effects of UV rays caused by Human Caused Global Climate Change Warming.”
“Thank you.”
benrand on March 21, 2007 at 12:15 PM
Our side causes fear by saying reducing emissions would destroy our economy????
How about Gore saying that there will be a massive doomsday, if we don’t begin to fix it in 10 years.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 12:15 PM
Ameripundit, thank you for your leadership in discussing Al Gore’s leadership.
dalewalt on March 21, 2007 at 12:16 PM
Word is…start investing in clean, renewable energy. Let the people deicde on the marketplace.
Sure. That’s fine. But not under the global warming fear mongering just to spread fear and panic.
Invest!
Invest!
Kokonut on March 21, 2007 at 12:16 PM
Bartlett is up now.
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 12:16 PM
Bartlett is a real weenie
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:17 PM
Ohhhh, methane… It’s the cows!
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:18 PM
Just wondering, is Gore under oath?
amerpundit on March 21, 2007 at 12:19 PM
is Gore under oath?
I don’t think so
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:20 PM
Uh oh Markey is up.
Pucker up Eddie
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:20 PM
Al, Maria Hsiah called, she’s interested in some Iced Tea.
benrand on March 21, 2007 at 12:21 PM
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070321/D8O0LFUO6.html
APnew is early reporting on this hearing about Gore’s panic, bell ringing talk.
Kokonut on March 21, 2007 at 12:21 PM
Al also sells Iced Tea credits, for those times when you’re out of Iced tea.
benrand on March 21, 2007 at 12:23 PM
Markey: We can improve fuel efficiency in cars if all the plebes drive around in Yugos while Al and I continue to ride amoungst a fleet of SUV’s on our way to the airport to get into our private jets and travel around the world.
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:24 PM
Al: Finger on the pulse of the 21st century….
That’s why he lost the election in 00′
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:26 PM
I just love watching the MSM puckering up like that.
dalewalt on March 21, 2007 at 12:30 PM
Al, I have cut myself down to the bare minimum. I live a VERY frugal life. If you had to live my life, you’d have a fit.
So don’t cut me back anymore - one of these days I’d really like to live one day like you do all the time.
Ellen on March 21, 2007 at 12:31 PM
And there it is… we have 10 years before it’s too late to do anything.
dalewalt on March 21, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Sheesh, “If we don’t stop turning the thermostate up before we reach the tipping point”
You know Al, I would LOVE to turn the thermostat up!
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:36 PM
Thanks to Jim Hansen’s (of NASA) complex modeling that gave Gore the 10 year prediction.
Kokonut on March 21, 2007 at 12:36 PM
Grandson Oscar, blah, blah,blah
And so it goes. We recess from the Al show at this time
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:37 PM
CO2 released by humans is indistinguishable from naturally occurring CO2.
Perchant on March 21, 2007 at 12:37 PM
You just know every single person in that room will now hop into a chauffer-driven SUV to cross the street for lunch.
“OK, Tipper, I’ll see you across the street.”
saint kansas on March 21, 2007 at 12:39 PM
http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2006/02/05/too_hot_to_handle/
Jim Hansen’s climate model.
Kokonut on March 21, 2007 at 12:39 PM
Duh Perchant, I would have never guessed that Co2 is Co2 no matter where it comes from…
I still blame it all on the cows (and Rove)
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:39 PM
Are you suggesting that Al doesn’t know what he’s talking about?
He said that each molecule of carbon dioxide has its own “signature.” You know, the protons, the neutrons, the electrons, and the signaturetron. Like a little “Inspected by No. 8 tag.”
Moron.
saint kansas on March 21, 2007 at 12:44 PM
Not true, the UN has a bank of scientists specially trained with the latest equipment that distinguishes the hot air from humans and all other sources of CO2. It’s my understanding the Goracles speech in front of Congress this morning spiked their instruments.
darwin on March 21, 2007 at 12:45 PM
It’s like he’s begging them for help in cornering the market on the “green” business.
Greedy little douchebag.
benrand on March 21, 2007 at 12:46 PM
Gonna go get my nails done. I’ll be back for round two this afternoon.
Hey St. Kan, “inspected by #8, funny. Very funny
Babs on March 21, 2007 at 12:56 PM
Is the Goracle about to tear up?
db on March 21, 2007 at 12:58 PM
I’ve been trying to sum up my thoughts on the Gorbot….
Greedy little douchebag.
YES! That’s it! Thank you benrand.
KelliD on March 21, 2007 at 12:58 PM
I’d like to see some work about this. I cannot imagine how one chain of O-C-O differs from another chain of O-C-O.
lorien1973 on March 21, 2007 at 1:00 PM
Rock Star Goracle Plays Capitol Hill
World’s most famous sharkjumper.
JammieWearingFool on March 21, 2007 at 1:17 PM
I live on the east coast at an elevation of just about sea level. This Gore guy has me scared. I’m going to brush up on my swimming because this area will be flooded any day now. At my age I may not be able to get to the Blue Ridge Mountains but I have to try.
Seriously tho’, this guy should be locked up before he spreads any more of his BS around. I’m more concerned with being polluted with that crap than I am with drowning.
Speaking of being polluted - it’s time for another Silver Bullet.
OBX Pete on March 21, 2007 at 1:19 PM
When he mentions this in regards to volvanic activity, he must be confused. Volcanic ash and particulate would be heavy and would fall out of the atmosphere over time, but how is some CO2 heavier than others and fall out of the atmosphere as he suggests. In fact did’nt he refer to the year without a summer following a volcano, which would imply global cooling. He is all over the place and to someone with a real science background, this makes no sense.
In fact, if good (the heavier) CO2 is natural and settles out of the atmosphere and bad (lighter, therefore remains suspended) is man-made, there would have been insufficient CO2 to sustain life prior to the industrial revolution. Right?
bopbottle on March 21, 2007 at 1:22 PM
I’m pretty sure the atomic weight of co2 is always the same.
lorien1973 on March 21, 2007 at 1:24 PM
molecular weight, of course :)
lorien1973 on March 21, 2007 at 1:24 PM
Oops, used wrong quote, sorry.
bopbottle on March 21, 2007 at 1:24 PM
I’m not sure what Gore was saying (I didn’t get to hear it), but maybe he was implying that the increase in CO2 is largely anthropogenic as opposed to natural (not all emissions, just the net change in total concentrations)… he certainly wouldn’t have tried to claim that anthropogenic emissions outweigh natural ones… would he?
In any case–assuming that I’m right in what he might have been trying to say–that could maybe be measured by observing changes in the prevalence of different isotopes. In the end, it doesn’t matter because very few people are claiming that we have NOT artificially increased atmospheric CO2 concentrations.
DaveS on March 21, 2007 at 2:09 PM
Extremist
I’m sure glad Al Gore in on the job.
Where would we be without Al Gore, and his band of reruns.
Kini on March 21, 2007 at 2:09 PM
Has algore gained weight…???…tuff to jog in all that snow and ice…or he’s eating all his carbon credits…just a thought…
areseaoh on March 21, 2007 at 2:13 PM
He actually looks like he has lost a lot of weight. I think I heard he lost like 25 lbs.
DaveS on March 21, 2007 at 2:15 PM
We have to stop ManBearPig, I am super, super serial.
Excelsior!
Bad Candy on March 21, 2007 at 2:16 PM
zzzzzz….
JackM on March 21, 2007 at 2:16 PM
You may be correct. I didn’t quite follow what he was saying. It’s hard to get a grasp on scientific principles that are being explained by someone who does not understand what he’s tlaking about.
Very correct that it does not matter since it has clearly been shown that CO2 does not significantly change temperature.
db on March 21, 2007 at 2:20 PM
This is all anyone needs to know about this ass and his movement. This wasn’t a coincidence, it’s called fear of being destroyed publicly in this hearing. The warmists know their time is running out, but their hero isn’t going to let himself be the one to stumble and fall in front of the world.
RightWinged on March 21, 2007 at 2:26 PM
And here’s what I think is an important re-post from the sun thread:
RightWinged on March 21, 2007 at 2:27 PM
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